It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 3a XL before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Still waiting this review
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I've posted my findings on the battery thread, but long story short, I can easily get 9hrs SOT on stock Android Q beta 5.
Pixel 3a XL on stock Pie, with everything on, default auto brightness, and mixed LTE and WiFi usage I can get an average of about 7 hours SOT in an 18 hour period on the weekends. If I am on WiFi 80+% of the time I can get 8.5 hours of SOT. Longest I ever had was 9h 28m SOT and 4% battery remaining when plugged in. This is the first phone I have had that I have NEVER had to connect to a charger during the day, others got close but there was always an occasion where it didn't make it through the day. Granted, I have only had it 3 months or so.
On a typical work day, up at 6:30am and in bed around 10:30pm, and in the field (80% out of the office on LTE, 20% in the office on WiFi, 1.5-2 hours talk time) is about 3-4 hours SOT with 50% battery remaining when plugged in. Typical day in the office on WiFi 95% of the time is about 3 hours of SOT and the battery at 60% at bed time.
I think if I sat in my office on my phone all day, I could easily break 10 hours of SOT, possibly hit 12 hours... The WiFi is incredibly strong, there is a Meraki MR55 access point right outside my door, so I am usually within 3-4 meters unobstructed line of site of it, and the AT&T cell tower is within 3 blocks. Again, this is all with everything turned on... Bluetooth, NFC, location services, Map's Timeline, push synching two Exchange accounts and two Gmail accounts, casting audio 50% of the time when in the office, and screen auto brightness on.
This is without a doubt the best device I have had for Screen On Time. May not be the best there is, but it is spectacular in my book.
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Hello, (sorry for my bad english, I'm German)
I'm looking for a new device, bc my old HTC 10 loses massively battery life (1-1,5h SOT) and I have to charge it 1-2 a day, so I guess I have an average usage of 4-6h SOT per day.
Now I have to choose between a used Pixel 3/3 XL (~400€) or a new Pixel 3a/3a XL (~370-450€); Pixel 4 is not an option, maximum 450€
Main factors for me are the camera and vanilla android, so I can get along with all of them. But also the battery is a facotr, bc in my opinion it's the point who limits the usage in 3 years, so I will get the Pixel whth the best battery life (if there are appreciable differences)
I read that the Pixel 3 is quite bad, so first I looked for the Pixel 3a wit its smaller SoC (is this a notable factor?) because I liked the really handy size.
But now I read, that the XL models has despite their bigger screens a better battery life - is the difference between 3400mAh+1440p and
3700mAh+1080p a significant factor? Otherwise I doubt with the bigger size, is it worth considerung the greater battery?
I hope some Pixel users could give me advices to choose the best Pixel phone fpr the next few years.
Thanks!
Salo444 said:
Hello, (sorry for my bad english, I'm German)
I'm looking for a new device, bc my old HTC 10 loses massively battery life (1-1,5h SOT) and I have to charge it 1-2 a day, so I guess I have an average usage of 4-6h SOT per day.
Now I have to choose between a used Pixel 3/3 XL (~400€) or a new Pixel 3a/3a XL (~370-450€); Pixel 4 is not an option, maximum 450€
Main factors for me are the camera and vanilla android, so I can get along with all of them. But also the battery is a facotr, bc in my opinion it's the point who limits the usage in 3 years, so I will get the Pixel whth the best battery life (if there are appreciable differences)
I read that the Pixel 3 is quite bad, so first I looked for the Pixel 3a wit its smaller SoC (is this a notable factor?) because I liked the really handy size.
But now I read, that the XL models has despite their bigger screens a better battery life - is the difference between 3400mAh+1440p and
3700mAh+1080p a significant factor? Otherwise I doubt with the bigger size, is it worth considerung the greater battery?
I hope some Pixel users could give me advices to choose the best Pixel phone fpr the next few years.
Thanks!
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I have already used Original Pixel XL, Pixel 2 and now Pixel 3a XL, the Pixel 3a XL is the best phone I have ever used.
I would easily recommend you the 3a XL.
Can't complain:laugh:
Results using AccuBattery Pro for a week.
I use Facebook, Twitter, and the camera fairly heavy and I don't game on it, so YMMV.
That said, I'm pretty pleased so far.
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Stock Pie, my custom kernel and very typical usage.
I think this pic says it all.
I think this pic explains it all. Android Q beta 6.
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I think this pic explains it all. Android Q beta 6.
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Holy moly! 10 hours of screen on time? Even if I didn't play Pokémon Go I wouldn't get there!
Battery drain after Android 10 compared to 9. Marked red linie is my sleep time phone not used
What i can do? Factory reset gonna help?
After factory reset no deep sleep drain
How did you update to 10? I would do a factory reset then sideload the OTA. If that still doesnt help (assuming youre not flashing any mods, themes, custom kernels, etc) then you need to track down whats preventing it from sleeping. Its typically an app.
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How did you update to 10? I would do a factory reset then sideload the OTA. If that still doesnt help (assuming youre not flashing any mods, themes, custom kernels, etc) then you need to track down whats preventing it from sleeping. Its typically an app.
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Thanks for the reply, but my problem is solve by factory reset
Battery life is superb. I can easily get 8-9h SOT with regular usage. If I play games it drops by maybe an hour or two.
I've had the 3a XL since Christmas and I've never been able to make it die within a day. If you are someone who doesn't use their phone that much, you could easily get 2 days out of it.
How to install your super great custom kernel on my 3a xl?
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Stock Pie, my custom kernel and very typical usage.
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Hope you are safe and sound with this pandemic.
I'm obsessed about having a great camera, long battery life and higher screen on time. I accidentally landed on your comment and saw the great battery life you have got in your pixel 3a xl thanks to the custom kernel you have installed.
Do you think you could show me how to download and install your custom kernel on my pixel 3a xl so that I pull the best battery longivity from my pixel 3a xl. That would be so nice and kind of you!
Most importantly, is there any compromises when installing this kerenl?
Thank you so much for your reply and help!
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Hope you are safe and sound with this pandemic.
I'm obsessed about having a great camera, long battery life and higher screen on time. I accidentally landed on your comment and saw the great battery life you have got in your pixel 3a xl thanks to the custom kernel you have installed.
Do you think you could show me how to download and install your custom kernel on my pixel 3a xl so that I pull the best battery longivity from my pixel 3a xl. That would be so nice and kind of you!
Most importantly, is there any compromises when installing this kerenl?
Thank you so much for your reply and help!
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Go to my thread. All instructions and download link are there. And no, no issues running this kernel. Everything works as intended.
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I did buy one..... waiting but I hope the battery life is going to be excellent.
The size of the battery is not huge and even though they say excellent battery life Google does not give you stats.
Screen on "50%" how long....
Can you wake up 6am set the phone in charger at midnight and still have battery?
Me I typically play a game, use my language learning programs a few hours a day.
Check maybe 20 emails, and 20 text messages.
Location services and bluetooth are always on. (need them for Play services and Android Wear)
And I believe and I hope the device proves me wrong but if I know it will be a long time between charges I will need to modify usage.
Is the type of usage I go through unreasonable ?
Yet all they say is you can get 7 hours of usage (what type of usage?) in 15 minutes.
So you are in the airports all day the battery is at 20% and you need to have the charger with you and find an outlet.
1) do not always have the charger handy
2) can not always find A/C
Does anybody really expect better battery life than with other phones ?
I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
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I am wrong Google did post some stats
3,450 mAh battery
Standby time (LTE): up to 23 days
Talk time (3g/WCDMA): up to 32 hours
Internet use time (Wi-Fi): up to 14 hours
Internet use time (LTE): up to 14 hours
Video playback: up to 14 hours
Audio playback (via headset): up to 130 hours
I should have no problem going through a long day moderate usage if this is correct.
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
I am somewhat underwhelmed with the 6P battery life, but I'm stock as I can't root per company policies.
Hoping the Pixel XL will be better. Or at least same... If it is worse, then it will be going back in the 14 day return window.
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Potentially we're looking at better stats.
Same size battery in a smaller body with a smaller screen and Supposed CPU optimisations, could explain the underclock.
My 6p makes it through the day without a charge, but I'm never far from an outlet, car charger or power bank just in case. Now that I've USB C proofed my home and office the rapid charging serves its purpose.
We've all seen the garbage spouted about days of battery life before and usage varies so much per user it's hard to compare. As they say the proof is in the pudding so we'll soon see, the price definitely isn't going up so why not wait and see?
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They stated similar stats when they released the 6P (the shop page was deleted so I can't paste them) and I got one....
Best screen-on-time I can get is 5 hours (with custom rom, custom kernel and a lot of system tweaks).
Don't rely on those stats, they were (in the best case) made under ideal conditions (probably in a lab) or (and that's rather the case) just calculated and without promise....
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Why not rely on Google's internal battery life tests?
They did the same for the 6P, so they can be compared.
All that matters in the end is how it really works for you, also stats are always overly optimistic. You buy a car an the dealer says the car is rated 5 litres per 100 km and every time the best your car does is 7 litres per 100km
What I had to do in the past is when I know I will be travelling without easy access to a charger is ration battery usage.
The stats though are encouraging hopefully and only time will tell is my next device I will not have to ration too much.
I really miss removable batteries remember the carefree way I used devices in the past with huge Zerolemon batteries. They will like sell a case for the Pixel XL but a case that adds battery capacity is not as elegant as just using a bigger battery.
The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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3-4 hours SOT sucks. Im getting 6 hours on 6p and 5 on Nexus 6
SOT is dependent on multiple factors, like what apps are running in background and what you do on the phone. Web browsing habits of sites visited, some sites have a lot going on.
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The reviews on the battery life seem pretty terrible so far and is really worrying me as it was my only concern. I have been rocking a Hauwei Mate 8 recently, which I consistently get around 7 hr SOT. Reviews for Pixel XL are coming out at 3.5-4 hr, which is not good for how big it is. It has only a slightly smaller battery than the S7 Edge, but the Edge performs much better, I was getting 5-5 .5 hr SOT with my Edge before switching to Mate 8. Google Assistant always being present and doing stuff may be a pretty severe drain. Just as someone else mentioned, nice that we have a 15 day return window.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Where are you seeing these 3.5-4 hr SOT reviews??
Many of the reviews that came out yesterday gave the Pixel highly positive ratings on battery. MKBHD said he got 6hrs SOT on full brightness, Dieter at the Verge said it might be the best battery life of any phone he'd ever used. Wired and a couple others also noted it as a high point. But then Mossberg said the smaller Pixel got so-so battery, and I think one of the Android Authority guys also called it average.
So... it sounds like basically any other Android phone. Varies highly for different people.
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Pretty sure the AA review, he was getting 3.5-4 hours for battery life and called it good/above average, which is not. I remember his specifically because that is where I got the idea that google assistant could be having a large impact if used heavily, which he said he was using heavily. I don't remember MKBHD saying 6 hours but I would have to go rewatch. I know I saw at least 2 reviews that said 3.5-4 ish and they both called it good. Which makes me worry that all the other reviews that called it good without giving specific numbers were under this same impression. I watched a crap ton of reviews, many didn't give specific stats. They must be comparing it to htc10, lg g5 and iphone to consider that good, leaving samsung as the only outstanding if they are considering that anywhere near good.
Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I wouldn't put too much stock in the first charge out of the box but that is still not a good indication. No bueno. Guess I have two weeks to try it out.
I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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Turned my phone on right out of the box around 12pm and started using it and I hit over 3 hours of sot
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I'm at 90% right now with 56 min screen on time. Just reading the news/web browsing. On wifi.
I'm happy.
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That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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I got mine yesterday at 5pm, Used it straight, setting it up with everything turned on and screen @ %100 (setup, music, movies, games) and it died after 5.5 hours. It was also on 86% charge when i got it.
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Good to see.
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That's what I have been wanting to hear! Would you be willing to post some screen shots of your battery life, etc before you plug her in tonight. How heavily have you been using the new assistant? have you done anything to customize your settings like turn off always listening or anything like that, adaptive screen brightness, etc?
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Right now, no tweaks everything turned on (assistant, always listening, Bluetooth, wifi).
Mostly web browsing. 15 minutes or so of Clash Royale. On wifi most of the day. Auto brightness.
Looks like about 6h SOT if I took it to empty.
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 3 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So 3rd day and these are my stats.
30% Wifi 70% LTE
Location when needed bluetooth off. AOD on pickup and new notifications only.
I am pretty consistently getting to 20% battery with 4 hours of screen time regardless of my usage. I'm mostly on wifi, probably 90% of the time.
I'm surprisingly getting an hour less than my pixel 2. It's around 5 hours.
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I'm surprisingly getting an hour less than my pixel 2. It's around 5 hours.
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The Pixel 3 has a 13% larger screen and 13% more pixels than the Pixel 2 with only an 8% bigger battery. Getting less battery life isn't a surprise at all.
What is a surprise is your claim that the Pixel 2 got 6 hours. With a 5" 1080p screen and only a 2700mAh battery I have a hard time believing anything more than about 4.5 hours.
Mix of Wi-Fi and walking around on LTE for a few hours outside
Its kinda bad. My brother cant get over 5 hours sot and the standby drain is really high. If he keeps it idle it drains alot.
I've had my Pixel 3 XL for roughly 7 days now and SOT have been consistent around 4:30 - 5:15 hrs going from 95 - 20 percent discharges before I recharge.
Not bad, but I have to admit that I was expecting something better like easily reaching 6+ hrs for normal usage.
My last hope is that boy "Adaptive Battery" if it would help after couple of weeks at learning curve.
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Its kinda bad. My brother cant get over 5 hours sot and the standby drain is really high. If he keeps it idle it drains alot.
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Try turning off the Always ON display. It drains the battery a lot. Initially i was getting 5 hrs max on wifi. Now its a little stable and i am able to clock around 8hrs SOT with average use. On LTE, it will drop drastically to 5hrs maybe.
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I've have pretty bad result being pretty much 95% on wifi with low app usage
I'm seeing mixed results with SoT on two separate Pixel 3s. On my SO's Pixel 3 its getting 8 hours while mine is only getting closer to 3-4 hrs and she is a heavier user than me usually. Seems to me that the information the adaptive battery has on usage matter a great deal on your battery life. I opted to start fresh on my Pixel 3 while she opted to transfer from an older Pixel.
Getting consistent 6-7 hours of SoT without ambient display, half WiFi, half data and some Bluetooth usage. Using amoled black or dark mode with many apps and an amoled themed wallpaper. This is at 90% brightness. Quite impressed.
getting 5/6h SOT
Screen brightness at about 75%, and nightmode at the end of the day.
Mix of WIFI/ LTE during day and Bluetooth in the car obviously.
So far impressed since the size of the battery is small compared to other devices.
My HTC u11+ was getting about 6h SOT with a much much larger battery capacity.
I'll be the first to admit I dont have much running in the background right now, but I'm still pleased. In case the links don't work -- 6 h 30 m screen on time. Phone charged 20 hours ago. (I'm not usually that heavy of a user, just wanted to see how it would fare in the real world. ) Mix of WiFi, LTE, bluetooth on about half the time.
How?
Use battery saving mode on time. I'm getting similar results. I accidently plugged in the charger at the last bit (thought I took the screenshot but I didn't) but you can see it only charged about 2%.
1 Hour of Screen on Time???
I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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I was having bad battery life too and wanted to sell it for the OnePlus 6T. What I did was left on battery saver all day and it worked out pretty good. Try that for now and see how it works for you.
YorbenB said:
"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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I was having bad battery life too and wanted to sell it for the OnePlus 6T. What I did was left on battery saver all day and it worked out pretty good. Try that for now and see how it works for you.
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If you opted to start from scratch when you set up your Pixel 3 and did not transfer the data from a device that already has the adaptive battery feature getting about 1 hour of SoT seems to be normal based on my experience. I haven't been able to confirm this, but based on my experience the adaptive battery feature seems to use machine learning. It learns what apps you use over time and how often you use them. The more data it has, the better the battery life you will get. It took about 3 weeks for my battery to settle down. Currently, my battery is estimated to last about 17 hours from a full charge. My suspicion is that the Pixel 3 start out running everything you install and slowly learns how aggressive it should limit the battery usage of an app. Aside from leaving it on battery saver, I would also recommend not charging it overnight a couple of days and letting it sit there. That seems to have helped me with the battery life and my device knowing to limit apps I don't use frequently.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 3 XL before depleting the battery.
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I've been on wifi most of the day. I took my phone off of the charger at about 610 this morning. I'd say it's pretty good so far.
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I've been on wifi most of the day. I took my phone off of the charger at about 610 this morning. I'd say it's pretty good so far.
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Forgot to attach the picture.
I should've saved a screenshot last night, but I had just over 6 hours SOT with 16 hours off of the charger. That's with moderate use throughout the day with heavy use at night. I know “picture or it didn't happen". I will definitely take a screenshot at the end of the day to compare.
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I sure hope that includes doing some kind of battery intense task like playing games otherwise that's pretty unimpressive. When my Pixel 2 XL was brand new 5 hours screen on time during non-battery intense things like browsing on wifi I could easily get that same 5 hours screen on time with 16 hours off the charger and still be at like 40-45%. It looks like the combination of bigger screen, higher resolution and smaller battery really makes a noticeable difference. Even more than I expected.
This is with mostly browsing and YouTube. I usually have more usage later at night. I also played a little Elder Scrolls Legends, which is very much a battery draining game.
As I do more testing, it appears this phone drains faster than the XL2 in both scenarios. I'll keep testing and post screenshots. I'm hesitant to return my XL2 as a trade-in.
I forgot to plug up last night so this morning I decided top just ride it out and see what I can get as far as screen time. I was thinking of starting a "Battery Life" thread, but no need since I am sure this one will suffice. My time included about 3 or so hours of music using Poweramp and other browsing and chatting and a few downloads. Bluetooth and WiFi on throughout the entire time.
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black amoled everything. apps. wallpaper. aw yissss. charged upto 80%, used it nonstop at uni bc my exams tomorrow and what else would i do but procrastinate?
wifi/data on all day.
Very solid battery life!
Really happy with this.
Very mediocre battery life!
I find that the battery doesn't last quite as long as my pixel xl.... Probably due to the fact that the screen isn't as bright so I have to keep it on max brightness during the day. Didn't have the screen issue on my pixel xl though.
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As I do more testing, it appears this phone drains faster than the XL2 in both scenarios. I'll keep testing and post screenshots. I'm hesitant to return my XL2 as a trade-in.
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A week and a bit with my brand new 3 XL and I have the same observations too. My 2 XL seemed to have less idle battery drain. Both phones have been rooted & running their latest respective ElementalX kernels.
Have been having a few nagging issues with the 3 XL too which I never experienced with the 2 XL. It refused to connect to my car bluetooth the other morning until I restarted the phone, and the lockscreen screen on/off animations are painfully slow and laggy 80% of the time too...
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Very solid battery life!
Really happy with this.
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how though, my best from 100-50 was somewhat 2 hrs and 50 mins
Ever since I received a replacement , I've been getting really good battery life. The one I had before had very poor battery and standby wasn't good either
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I'm pretty impressed.
I have the pixel 3 and SoT is about 3.5-4hrs and I had read a lot that it was better than the p3xl.
I got the p3xl on Tuesday, battery was kinda weird some days but today I am super impressed. Hardly used wifi as well and always has gps on.
After DEc update, my battery sucks.
Now I only get 3-4hrs.
I had 10 % battery drain last night. The phone was face down so the AOD was off for 7 hours . Is that normal
Pretty good battery life here. No root, no battery saving action, all stock.
Usually I get 7,5h sot.
Really quite disappointed with the battery life, tbh.
I had a P20 Pro until a few weeks ago - I know that's a massive battery but the Pixel 3 XL doesn't even come close. I get maybe 4hrs SOT.
Most disappointing though is the drain when idle - seems to lose about 2% an hour. With the P20 Pro I could leave it off charge overnight and it would only lose about 2% in total.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Google Pixel 3 XL's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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I have been with google phones for the last 5 years.
With the pixel line, I have never been so happy with my battery, specially pixel 2 xl. Battery would last 1.5 to 2 days...
However, with the 3, at the end of the day I had 39%, on a day I did not use the phone except for 10 sms, quick stocks check, 2 emails, no phone calls, 15 minutes of music with bt headphones in the metro.
Last night, I put it in safe mode, charged it. Took away from the charger at 6am, checked emails. At 8am, I had 90%.
Removed from safe mode at 8. Checked some messages, spoke for 10 minutes over the phone, checked emails and stocks. It is now 9:20am and my battery is at 80%
Not good. I am really disappointed.
If you have yours, please let me know how you feel about it.
I did see one youtuber complaining about his battery, I am afraid mine is defective. If not, I want to go back to the pixel 2 xl.
The battery is supposed to be adaptive, so it learns your usage. Most have said it needs a few days/a week before you get the full optimised life for it
Pixel 3 XL Battery Size: 3450 mAh
Pixel 2 XL Battery Size: 3,520 mAh
The Pixel 3 XL Battery is smaller no way around it
I have the XL and I charged it on the first day and let it drain to 1%. It lasted 27 hours and 5 hours and 40 minutes of screen time. I'll take it.
Battery life has been overall excellent. I havent been watching it like a hawk but it lasts all day with heavy usage. A- overall
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The battery is supposed to be adaptive, so it learns your usage. Most have said it needs a few days/a week before you get the full optimised life for it
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There is really a misunderstanding about Adaptive Battery mode. All it really does is make sure that poorly written apps can't drain battery in the background if you rarely use them. If you don't have any apps like that Adaptive Battery doesn't really do anything. In my case I have no apps like that so Adaptive Battery on my Pixel 2 XL has made no difference.
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I have the XL and I charged it on the first day and let it drain to 1%. It lasted 27 hours and 5 hours and 40 minutes of screen time. I'll take it.
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I'm curious what kind of use got you that kind of battery life.
If you were using mobile data, had the screen really bright, played games, used navigation, etc that's pretty good.
If you were on wifi most of the time, lower screen brightness and doing non battery intensive tasks that's pretty disappointing.
I would say half and half wifi and mobile data. Screen was at 75%. Lots of web surfing, Netflix and YouTube. 45 minutes of navigation. Light email, texts, calls and photos. No games
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Pixel 3 XL Battery Size: 3450 mAh
Pixel 2 XL Battery Size: 3,520 mAh
The Pixel 3 XL Battery is smaller no way around it
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I agree with you on that, but...
4 hours and 30 minutes off the charger, 6 days of using the phone:
2 XL: 96%
3 XL: 73%
The percentage here is MUCH larger than the battery size...
I am so disappointed and waiting for my replacement phone. If this continues... welcome 2 XL again...
what %/h (percent per hour) screen on?
i have 11%/h and 2.1%/h for screen on and off, combined 2.9%/h. over night it went from 23 to 17 i think. i charged to 80% this morning and at 39% from 9A to 10P.
The top of the screenshot is the battery life I'm getting at that moment, and the bottom is the average. This is mainly on wifi, with screen about 75% bright, using a VPN(idk if that drains it but seems like it). Anyway, I'm really happy with the battry life of this phone.
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There is really a misunderstanding about Adaptive Battery mode. All it really does is make sure that poorly written apps can't drain battery in the background if you rarely use them. If you don't have any apps like that Adaptive Battery doesn't really do anything. In my case I have no apps like that so Adaptive Battery on my Pixel 2 XL has made no difference.
I'm curious what kind of use got you that kind of battery life.
If you were using mobile data, had the screen really bright, played games, used navigation, etc that's pretty good.
If you were on wifi most of the time, lower screen brightness and doing non battery intensive tasks that's pretty disappointing.
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This really isn't the case at all. The naughty list of apps is really only one function of the adaptive battery management. Do you really think Google would be bragging about a task killer?
https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/28/how-android-pies-adaptive-battery-and-adaptive-brightness-work/
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This really isn't the case at all. The naughty list of apps is really only one function of the adaptive battery management. Do you really think Google would be bragging about a task killer?
https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/28/how-android-pies-adaptive-battery-and-adaptive-brightness-work/
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That's really just a long detailed explanation of what I said.
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That's really just a long detailed explanation of what I said.
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What you said was that it only helps with poorly written apps. That is totally, completely wrong- and I don't believe you bothered to read the article- you would know that.
https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/28/how-android-pies-adaptive-battery-and-adaptive-brightness-work/
See the section labeled "Adaptive Battery: 5 percent reduction in overall CPU". There is a noticable difference with the battery management on the Pixel 2 &3. It takes 2-3 weeks from my experience & it DOES in fact learn and adjust to a users usage. That's why they are calling it AI. You can't just look at one of those battery apps and judge the phone over a 24 hour period, nothing quantitative there. Use the phone as you normally would for a period of time and then and ONLY then can you fairly judge it.
This ties into Google's position on the camera as well, "bigger/more" isn't ALWAYS better. Machine learning can do a lot, and you need look no further than the performance of the camera to see that.
That being said- could the battery be bigger? Sure. It's actually 100ma less than the 2XL this year. But why? If you can get the same performance with "less"- it would be pointless to spend more money on "bigger."
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What you said was that it only helps with poorly written apps. That is totally, completely wrong- and I don't believe you bothered to read the article- you would know that.
https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/28/how-android-pies-adaptive-battery-and-adaptive-brightness-work/
See the section labeled "Adaptive Battery: 5 percent reduction in overall CPU". There is a noticable difference with the battery management on the Pixel 2 &3. It takes 2-3 weeks from my experience & it DOES in fact learn and adjust to a users usage. That's why they are calling it AI. You can't just look at one of those battery apps and judge the phone over a 24 hour period, nothing quantitative there. Use the phone as you normally would for a period of time and then and ONLY then can you fairly judge it.
This ties into Google's position on the camera as well, "bigger/more" isn't ALWAYS better. Machine learning can do a lot, and you need look no further than the performance of the camera to see that.
That being said- could the battery be bigger? Sure. It's actually 100ma less than the 2XL this year. But why? If you can get the same performance with "less"- it would be pointless to spend more money on "bigger."
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Noticable battery improvement on the Pixel 2 XL? If you had poorly behaving apps then yes. I don't have any apps that hog battery in the background when they shouldn't. My battery life on my Pixel 2 XL running Pie is no different than it was on Oreo. I actually had a huge battery life decrease after I updated to Pie but a factory reset got me back to Oreo battery life.
And a 5% reduction of CPU means nothing. That's so tiny it isn't noticable. It's not the CPU or software that has the biggest impact on battery life. It's the screen and the size of the battery. Software optimizations help a little bit but not enough to even be worth mentioning.
The Pixel 3 XL doesn't get the same battery as the Pixel 2 XL. Not even close. I can do anything with my Pixel 2 XL other than GPS navigation and games and get 7-7.5 hours screen on time over 24 hours off the charger. That's down from 9 hours screen on time over 40 hours when it was new. The Pixel 3 XL isn't getting close to that. A combination of a bigger screen, higher resolution and smaller battery is the reason.
I don't know why people keep making a thing about the XL 3 battery being smaller than the XL 2 battery as though there has been some major downgrade, It is 2% smaller.
That isn't going to make any significant or noticeable difference. If you take a 6 hour SOT that would make 7 minutes difference! If there is a significant difference in the battery life of the XL 3 v XL 2 then it is nothing to do with the difference in battery size.
I too would have preferred a significantly bigger battery but most phone manufacturers continue to ignore this. I know some phones do have larger batteries, like any phone choice, you balance all the features offered and make your choice.
I'm getting 2.5% drain per hour regardless of whether the ambient display is on or not. It also doesn't change if I turn adaptive battery on or off.
I don't get it..
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Pixel 3 XL Battery Size: 3450 mAh
Pixel 2 XL Battery Size: 3,520 mAh
The Pixel 3 XL Battery is smaller no way around it
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Yeah, this is one decision that Google made that I truly don't understand. Why would you downgrade the battery when you're adding more horsepower to the device?! I can maybe see doing this for the Pixel 3 but absolutely not for the Pixel 3 XL! My only complaint is the battery life, that being said, I know it's supposed to be adaptive, so it may improve over time. I'm hoping that proves to be the case!
UPDATE: I tend to agree with the point another person made that it's a 7% difference, though, I for sure would have preferred it was a 7% gain vs. a loss.
-E
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Yeah, this is one decision that Google made that I truly don't understand. Why would you downgrade the battery when you're adding more horsepower to the device?! I can maybe see doing this for the Pixel 3 but absolutely not for the Pixel 3 XL! My only complaint is the battery life, that being said, I know it's supposed to be adaptive, so it may improve over time. I'm hoping that proves to be the case!
UPDATE: I tend to agree with the point another person made that it's a 7% difference, though, I for sure would have preferred it was a 7% gain vs. a loss.
-E
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The problem all comes down to wireless charging: the wireless charging coil steals a couple mm of space....that's the only reason why the battery is smaller.
What I don't really get instead is why everyone is so freaking happy about wireless charging...I mean, for a marginal gain in charging behavior, we loose in battery capacity!
The pixel 3 xl drains much faster than the pixel 2 xl. It might be the new screen from Samsung consumes more energy but I'm not entirely sure.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the 's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My phone stays in my pocket quite a bit, but I'm apparently getting phenomenally better battery life than most (certainly the folks reviewing it). Even if I pull it out to watch a 3 hr hockey game while I'm at work, when it's not out and in my face it'll last for over a day easy. I stream music over a Bluetooth speaker a lot and still, nah. Again though, my screen on time is prob a lot less than most and I plug it in for the android auto on my 30 min commute. It's better than my 2xl was and I need to plug it in far less than my iFriends
I was having many issues at first, including battery drain overnight, but not to be dismayed by the lack of support from (well you know) tech companies (ahem), as always, I relied on the superior knowledge at a place called "xda" (you may have heard of them), after doing a factory reset and starting over (yeeeeaaaahhh), I now have the phone I thought I was buying, so thanks to the many knowledgeable people, developers, rom writers, etc., on this forum. Of course in my opinion , anyone who owns an android device should be required to spend a minimum of 100 hours reading on this site, even if they have no intention of rooting, or well whatever. As for the issue at hand, I used a little over 13% now after a little more than a day, including overnight no use time, obviously Im a lite user compared to some, but my trusty nexus 6 (5 year old) battery had seen its better days.
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I was having many issues at first, including battery drain overnight, but not to be dismayed by the lack of support from (well you know) tech companies (ahem), as always, I relied on the superior knowledge at a place called "xda" (you may have heard of them), after doing a factory reset and starting over (yeeeeaaaahhh), I now have the phone I thought I was buying, so thanks to the many knowledgeable people, developers, rom writers, etc., on this forum. Of course in my opinion , anyone who owns an android device should be required to spend a minimum of 100 hours reading on this site, even if they have no intention of rooting, or well whatever. As for the issue at hand, I used a little over 13% now after a little more than a day, including overnight no use time, obviously Im a lite user compared to some, but my trusty nexus 6 (5 year old) battery had seen its better days.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Honestly it seems to vary user by user. Depends on the apps you have installed, whether you restrict their battery use, turn off notifications, etc. etc.
If you use social media apps, strongly suggest you manually restrict their battery use and turn off notifications. Other phones that have amazing battery life (Huawei for example) do this for you, they aggressively restrict apps, but Google doesn't.. Makes a massive difference. Made a huge difference for me. I went from 10%+ battery drain overnight to about 2%. Same during the workday. The battery drain is hugely improved when it's in my pocket or on the desk through the day.
Symphony0fLife said:
Honestly it seems to vary user by user. Depends on the apps you have installed, whether you restrict their battery use, turn off notifications, etc. etc.
If you use social media apps, strongly suggest you manually restrict their battery use and turn off notifications. Other phones that have amazing battery life (Huawei for example) do this for you, they aggressively restrict apps, but Google doesn't.. Makes a massive difference. Made a huge difference for me. I went from 10%+ battery drain overnight to about 2%. Same during the workday. The battery drain is hugely improved when it's in my pocket or on the desk through the day.
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I've had my Pixel 4 XL for just over a week. Biggest ROI in terms of battery life for me has been turning off Bluetooth Scanning under location settings. I also turned off Always On Display (but I may start testing with those options as I had done that before turning off Bluetooth scanning). Motion Sense, Smooth Display, etc...are all on and working great. I'm at 13% active drain / 1.7% idle drain and my phone goes to Deep Sleep as I would expect. Not finding a need to limit my usage or worry about it...getting 22-24 hours of projected life a day, not charging during the day and not worrying about it. 4-5 hours of screen on time. I'm happy....my Pixel XL was struggling to get through a full day and I had been using various battery packs as needed to allow it to limp along. Really happy so far. I haven't unlocked bootloader or rooted yet....but may head down that path if needed. (Google Store Unlocked version on Verizon)
Edit: Forgot to mention I also disabled Digital Wellbeing and I believe that helped as well.
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Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...
Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?
Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
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Mostly nothing was working correctly, the transfer data didnt work, the battery was draining as fast as my old nexus 6 (the reason I decided it was time to get a new phone), couldnt get it to connect to my wifi without turning off security and allowing a first ip address (tech support cant understand that concept), receiving double notifications, fi switch app would take me to the dialer no matter what I pushed, like settings. It was an absolute total mess. I rooted my nexus 6P with Pixel Experience (how awsome is that thank you devs), and fi switch was normal. Thats why I did the factory reset, wiping everything and starting new. Still had to turn off security in wifi till I got it set up, but everything else has gone to normal like it suppose to. Dont like a lot of google stuff, still turning off whatever I can, limit as many sharing and app allowances as possible (dont send stats) only use Bluetooth as needed.
Nexus 6 rooted stock with TWRP (thank you TWRP people)
Nexus 6P rooted Pixel Experience and TWRP
Pixel 4xl not rooted stock rom and recovery
Im still a newbie compared to the great ones who have a presence here, Thats why I read the how to for rooting probably without exaggerating 20 times,
I also read thru the forums completely to find how others get fixed, wish I was knowledgeable enough to help others, maybe some day :laugh:
Thanks for the feedback! I really never thought about it this way. My Samsung phones did restrict different apps really fast. That Google does not force this in the same manner never crossed my mind. Also with bluetooth scanning. I had that turned on the whole time, just because i honestly forgot it was there. Same goes with wifi scanning i guess. Will try these out.
I will keep staying unrooted for the time being.
Seems like maybe a launch quirk?
My Pixel 2 XL pulled 3 days 20 hours of projected use after a year of use.
My Pixel 4 XL is pulling just under one day.
I did not copy my device over, I have a fresh install. Wifi and Bluetooth scanning disabled (but really it's 2019, nearly 2020, this shouldn't be an issue)
However, my Pixel 4 XL seems to have had a significant boost to longevity after the December feature update.
Hi there
I have a battery drain at night (sleep 8h) at about 6-7%. Not too much, not little. I remember my pixel 3's drain at night was 3&4.
Stanby drain is an issue on pixel 4 I think.
What about yours ?
If it helps anyone: in the google assistant settings - Open the Settings app > Google > Account Services > Search, Assistant & Voice > Google Assistant - there is a possibility of battery usage "unseen?" in different settings - I had the recognize music going and on the good side it accurately found every tune that played on the radio while I was driving, the downside is it used a lot of battery, you can make a "quicky icon" for the home screen should you so desire, to make it off/on/off easier.
Tosslehoff said:
Seems like maybe a launch quirk?
My Pixel 2 XL pulled 3 days 20 hours of projected use after a year of use.
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What!? And you were actually using the phone? LOL. I got a 4 days 15 hours estimate with my 2 year Pixel 2 XL and that was from not using it at all because I got the Pixel 4 XL. Haha. Had only 26 minutes of SOT.
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idees said:
Hi there
I have a battery drain at night (sleep 8h) at about 6-7%. Not too much, not little. I remember my pixel 3's drain at night was 3&4.
Stanby drain is an issue on pixel 4 I think.
What about yours ?
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That's really not bad at all. Less than 1% an hour standby drain isn't terrible. Especially with the active display.
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That's really not bad at all. Less than 1% an hour standby drain isn't terrible. Especially with the active display.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Pixel 4 does have Always On...detecting presence is another option....
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Correct, but anywhere near the phone with movement and it triggers it. If its sitting next to you on a table, high chance its going to be on most of the time just from general movement. Now, if you sit it on your desk on the other side of the room, no, its not going to show unless you have it checked to show all the time.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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Also, this highly depends what you have set for notifications from apps. Like if email is push or set to refresh on a time schedule, etc. There is so much that goes into this ****. Is it on LTE or Wifi? Cant just make huge blanket statements.
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I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.
Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
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You are correct, however if you use the feature that turns AOD off when you're away, you then have the radar running in the background 100% of the time waiting for you to get in range of the phone to turn AOD on. So it's still great. My 4 XL uses between 0-1% overnight. I'm not sure if AOD is on all night, but it IS on when I am lying there. If you're lying or sitting anywhere near the phone (10 ft or so) with any kind of movement at all, it is on. So is the radar. Factoring that in it's pretty incredible. This thing just sips battery now that it's good and settled in. Same with SOT. it's gone from average/slightly below to excellent.
That said, for the first week or so mine was draining 5% or slightly more overnight. It got better and better over the first few weeks until this point. Now it's brilliant. That's the part that I don't like about reviewers doing hot takes on these things, just reviewing specs on paper rather than the phone itself. Until you've used it for a few weeks-one month, you have no idea how any phone will actually perform long term rendering 98% of the reviews on YouTube completely useless.
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That's the part that I don't like about reviewers doing hot takes on these things, just reviewing specs on paper rather than the phone itself. Until you've used it for a few weeks-one month, you have no idea how any phone will actually perform long term rendering 98% of the reviews on YouTube completely useless.
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A lot of the legit reviews have used the phone for a week or more and others have done a one month later as well. The phone is okay and maybe good at best with battery but it's still a good 1.5 to 2 hours less SOT and many hours less than my Pixel 2 XL was in the same first 7 weeks.
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EeZeEpEe said:
A lot of the legit reviews have used the phone for a week or more and others have done a one month later as well. The phone is okay and maybe good at best with battery but it's still a good 1.5 to 2 hours less SOT and many hours less than my Pixel 2 XL was in the same first 7 weeks.
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Unfortunately there are precious few legit reviewers, none of the big channels actually do proper reviews. They get the phone a week or two before launch, they spend a day or two with it seldom if ever popping their SIM in, admit they carry more than one phone and drop a 10 minute spec review the moment the embargo lifts. That's not a review. That's a listing of specs and opinion based on specs combined with 10 minutes of footage showing the design. Unfortunately what those folks don't know could fill a warehouse. These are the same people that dismissed wide angle lenses as a gimmick but now that Samsung and Apple have it any phone without it is trash. Or crying about the fingerprint sensor, the "ultimate" in security being gone, when it can be used with a person asleep just like face unlock (though face unlock can be fixed, print readers cannot.). They're just worse than useless when it comes to info on devices.
The statements of bad battery life are patently false. I can't force this phone to get less than 5 hours SOT. Interestingly, reviewers that have actually used the phone directly contradict them. Objectively it's good to great (the XL anyway). I haven't seen a single month in review from a person that's ACTUALLY daily driven the device as their sole phone for a month getting anything less than 5.5 hours SOT with most averaging closer to 6. I'd wager 24 hours per charge with 5-6 hours SOT would be perfectly fine for most people. Picking the phone back up off the shelf and using it again for another 24 hours after an update or two does not constitute a month in review. If they've taken their SIM out one time or used any other phone alongside as a "primary" their review is dismissed out of hand. Not just on the Pixel, but any phone.
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The statements of bad battery life are patently false. I can't force this phone to get less than 5 hours SOT. Interestingly, reviewers that have actually used the phone directly contradict them. Objectively it's good to great (the XL anyway). I haven't seen a single month in review from a person that's ACTUALLY daily driven the device as their sole phone for a month getting anything less than 5.5 hours SOT with most averaging closer to 6. I'd wager 24 hours per charge with 5-6 hours SOT would be perfectly fine for most people.
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If you're in a vacuum I guess that's great. However, when phones get either the same SOT but have more percentage left at the end of a day or can get 8+ hours off a single charge, the Pixel 4 XL is not great and average at best. I'm getting 4-5 hours SOT with an occasional 5.5 when I easily got 6-7 SOT and occasional 8 hours with the Pixel 2 XL. Again, reviewers put the same 1-2 weeks into a review and also see more SOT and battery percentage at the end of the day too. So you can't totally disregard their battery hate because they're putting the Pixel 4 XL on the same daily usage and time period as their other phone reviews.
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