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Check it out , from minute 1:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxeFQ6U4uRM&feature=player_embedded
The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
darksaber73 said:
The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
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i read about the iphone doing the same but i have no clue
ya read that too on gsmarena.. hope they fix it by release time.
It isn't a really terrible issue,but i can't help but keep wondering what's the reason for that zoom.
It wasn't solved on iphone 4 so i guess there's a "deep and technical" reason beyond that.
Maybe the 1080p doesn't divide well into the 8 megapixel camera for easy conversion, so they make the viewable area slightly smaller so it is a nice multiple of the 1080p, because the processor can't handle the load otherwise. Shot in the dark.
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
Sent from my Captivate.
MikeyMike01 said:
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
Sent from my Captivate.
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i doubt it because you cannot display full 720p either ie 1280x720 but it doesnt crop/zoom that image when you video record..
darksaber73 said:
The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
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No it doesnt. Double tap your screen and it zooms out.
MikeyMike01 said:
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
Sent from my Captivate.
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Naturally it is so and also logical !
How should a 800 x 480 pixel screen show full resolution of 1080 p ? It is not possible physically. Only via HML on the TV-screen You will have full HD res.
troed said:
Naturally it is so and also logical !
How should a 800 x 480 pixel screen show full resolution of 1080 p ? It is not possible physically. Only via HML on the TV-screen You will have full HD res.
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but how can it display 1280x720?
Chad_Petree said:
but how can it display 1280x720?
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1) Scale 1280x720 to 800x480, in which case you get an aspect ratio error of 1% which is more than acceptable.
2) Scale 1280x720 to 800x450 and pad the rest with black bars.
Is that what was asked?
For comparison purposes, my Captivate does this also. 720x480 is zoomed; 1280x720 is zoomed further.
martino2k6 said:
1) Scale 1280x720 to 800x480, in which case you get an aspect ratio error of 1% which is more than acceptable.
2) Scale 1280x720 to 800x450 and pad the rest with black bars.
Is that what was asked?
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450? did you watch the video? the problem seems to be only in 1080p and as far i know 720p and 1080p have the same aspect ratio
Chad_Petree said:
450? did you watch the video? the problem seems to be only in 1080p and as far i know 720p and 1080p have the same aspect ratio
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450 because it will be the same AR. Anyway, apologies. I should have read further back to see what the actual problem behind the discussion was.
Do we know the reason for this? All of the retail units are doing it.
Its simply a lower viewing angle at higher resolutions, its not that uncommon on video recording devices.
not sure I understand?
The youtube video in the OP shows RECORDING, not playback, right?
When it records in 1080p, the screen shows a zoomed in picture.
This is because the phone cannot take raw 1920x1080 video stream from the camera, and at the same time be encoding it as 1080p and saving it to memory, and downscaling that raw 1920x1080 stream to 800x480 to display on screen. This phone is powerful, but not that powerful. Or maybe that youtube video was of not final software.
Yes it's zoomed, and that's a hack to make it possible to record 1080p.
They've basically just cut off the pixels on the side, and are using 1920x1080 pixels from the centre of the camera's sensor.
This way, it doesn't have to process the "extra" pixels on the side, do pixel binning etc. The sensor is decent enough that 1080p still looks crisp at native res.
Rawat said:
Yes it's zoomed, and that's a hack to make it possible to record 1080p.
They've basically just cut off the pixels on the side, and are using 1920x1080 pixels from the centre of the camera's sensor.
This way, it doesn't have to process the "extra" pixels on the side, do pixel binning etc. The sensor is decent enough that 1080p still looks crisp at native res.
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Ahh that is what they were showing Makes sense, just like the iP4 then - thanks for the explanation.
I was wondering if there was some sort of video upscaling present when videos of a lower resolution like 720p and 1080p videos are played. I mean, there's not much point in a QHD screen if even 1080p videos are pixelated, right?
What do you mean? They have to be upscaled, how else would you want to watch them? In a small window? 720p should upscale without any quality loss (1 pixel becomes 4 pixels), 1080p should look great too but with a slight, probably not noticable at such small screen size quality loss.
1080p videos look great on my Tab S 8.4 i don't see any reason why they wouldn't on the Note 4.
Sorry. Yeah, I mean lossless upscaling.
inadequate said:
Sorry. Yeah, I mean lossless upscaling.
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Lossless...?
Relative to the 1080p, sure, it's lossless as you don't lose any resolution from 1080p. Relative to 1440p? Well, in that case of course you lose resolution if the source video isn't 1440p.
Sorry, I'm not too sure what you mean by lossless.
Looks like I've been doing a shoddy job of explaining myself. Sorry about that.
I know that this may sound completely retarded, but what I meant to ask was this : Does the Note 4 have the same type of upscaling that is present in 4K televisions?
i was SO frustrated looking at similar threads here and around the web so i got in touch with CMOAR virtual cinema and asked them if its rendering 4k or just upscaling from 1080p.
It seems like it's just upscaled BUT since in the past they talked about the chance to have it run at TRUE 4k...they answered me and said:
we have prepared special build with 4k support (Rendering in 4k), fps are of course low but I think we will prepare build for public, because we know that many people just like us want to test it
Please send us a reminder at the end of the month
So get ready. We will FINALLY be able to see TRUE 4k. Maybe at 15fps..but that will be the best chance we had so far..in VR. I think there could be the chance to play a movie in the void theater at good fps.
but the main question i have left is...why didn't you do the same months ago?! I would have done it instantly if i had the phone!
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i was SO frustrated looking at similar threads here and around the web so i got in touch with CMOAR virtual cinema and asked them if its rendering 4k or just upscaling from 1080p.
It seems like it's just upscaled BUT since in the past they talked about the chance to have it run at TRUE 4k...they answered me and said:
we have prepared special build with 4k support (Rendering in 4k), fps are of course low but I think we will prepare build for public, because we know that many people just like us want to test it
Please send us a reminder at the end of the month
So get ready. We will FINALLY be able to see TRUE 4k. Maybe at 15fps..but that will be the best chance we had so far..in VR. I think there could be the chance to play a movie in the void theater at good fps.
but the main question i have left is...why didn't you do the same months ago?! I would have done it instantly if i had the phone!
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Is that not what I'm already doing.....?
if im not mistaken you posted this and showed that 1080p or 4k things got smaller but readability was exactly the same (reading the smallest line). Am i wrong? In that case, that's not true 4k
other than that i couldn't find in this whole forum a true list of true 4k applications. It's like looking for gold!!
d3stroyah said:
if im not mistaken you posted this and showed that 1080p or 4k things got smaller but readability was exactly the same (reading the smallest line). Am i wrong? In that case, that's not true 4k
other than that i couldn't find in this whole forum a true list of true 4k applications. It's like looking for gold!!
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Don't know what you're referring to. If you look at the resolution, it is 4k. When you watch a movie in VR, your virtual void screen is not going to be 4k, it's going to be far less. When my phone is in 4k, the virtual screen resolution is a couple hundred pixels bigger than when at 2k or 1080p.
If it renders in 4k, it's not really going to matter because you're not getting anywhere close to that in void cinema anyways? You're getting about VGA worth of a virtual screen. I think the most important factor with 4k for VR is less screen door effect, not the resolution? Then again, I just started messing with this so I'm not too knowledgeable.
i don't think it works like that..
in virtual cinema now you just have a 1080p resolution upscaled to 4k. SDE has nothing to do with the output resolution and it's going to be the same even outputting at 480p the whole screen.
Even so, putting true 4k in virtual cinema will mean having twice the detail there is now since every pixel will have a "true" color instead of a fake one (with upscaling). That will result in a greater resolution overall.
The only way to really test this out, is with their true 4k output cinema version. Now we're 95% just fooled with upscaling (and as they said 4k will have very low fps)
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i don't think it works like that..
in virtual cinema now you just have a 1080p resolution upscaled to 4k. SDE has nothing to do with the output resolution and it's going to be the same even outputting at 480p the whole screen.
Even so, putting true 4k in virtual cinema will mean having twice the detail there is now since every pixel will have a "true" color instead of a fake one (with upscaling). That will result in a greater resolution overall.
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If I'm not running AAA VR Cinema in 4K, then can you explain why my virtual cinema has a greater resolution then when running the phone at 2k or 1080p? Are you really going to notice that much more detail if you cram a 4k video into a VGA space or a 1080p one into that same space?
i guess the only way to find out would be 3 screenshots, one at each resolution from a 1080p source clip. 4k is twice as sharp as 1080p, for the same portion of screen. That means that something barely readable 1080p will be twice as sharp in 4k. The void size must be the same and 4k would actually display 2x times a 1080p image, not just 200px more
look, you posted these:
https://postimg.cc/image/nrqysn3y3/
https://postimg.cc/image/z5di3uegr/
the second is slightly higher resolution but the output is the same, resizing back the 4k to 1440p you have the same exact image...that's 100% upscaled, no true 4k happening at all, you would see a big difference going up (1440p is nowhere close 4k, it's jus 125% more than 1080p where 4k is 200% 1080p)
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look, you posted these:
https://postimg.cc/image/nrqysn3y3/
https://postimg.cc/image/z5di3uegr/
the second is slightly higher resolution but the output is the same, resizing back the 4k to 1440p you have the same exact image...that's 100% upscaled, no true 4k happening at all, you would see a big difference going up (1440p is nowhere close 4k, it's jus 125% more than 1080p where 4k is 200% 1080p)
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Dude, the function of that app is only to tell you the resolution of the virtual screen. What's within it is for reference purposes. It's not going to change.
reminder
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V30 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
Seeing as there are only pre-production unites with non-final software available, I would think it's a little premature to comment on any aspect of the phone including video quality.
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The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
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Do you own the device or you judge only by the review in Internet?
Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
SinSilla said:
Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
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Manual mode in V20 let you choose as high as 64Mbit bitrate, kut not auto mode though.
What I'd like to know is if there's 3rd party app in PlayMarket that's capable to store UHD 4K video directly in H.265 HEVC format?
SD Spectre is definitely capable of H265 compressing AFAIK
Game of Thrones’ Cinematographer Shot This Homemade Movie on LG’s V30 Phone
http://www.adweek.com/creativity/ga...er-shot-this-homemade-movie-on-lgs-v30-phone/
They're really doing a bang up job in pushing the video quality of the V30. Want to see how it does against a Red Weapon camera? Sure you do!
https://youtu.be/nAth8g05tfs
Hey guys,
it's possible shooting 120-240 fps with full hd?
Thanks
This video was taken on the LG V30, model H933, not that any of the cameras are any different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_MnzeG3PCo
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can it capture the 4k 60fps video ? codec is h.264 or h.265 ?
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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I hope the rooted LG V30 should have QHD 60fps (2k video recording) like the Samsung Galaxy S8/Note 8 camera mod!
FYI, from a Phone Arena Q&A article about the LG V30:
LG V30 Q&A: Your questions answered!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-Q-A-Your-questions-answered_id99088
The rear snapper is capable of shooting in the following modes and aspects in Auto video mode:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Cine video mode, which is the one that allows you to pre-apply various cinematic filters and use the Point Zoom feature, you can shoot in the following modes:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Manual video mode, where all the fun stuff is, the phone shoots in the following aspects and formats:
16:9 UHD [email protected], 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 FHD Cinema [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 HD [email protected], 60, 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps.
As far as slo-mo is concerned, you get [email protected] slo-mo, which is now a standard among flagships devices.
The front-facing camera maxes out at:
16:9 FHD 1920x1080
18:9 HD 1440x720
16:9 HD 1280x720.
Video quality is excellent and is definitely geared towards your regular aspiring cinematographer.
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There's other answers to questions in that article, so feel free to go read it in its entirety.
^That article isn't exactly true. While if you are just digging around in the menus looking for frame rates, all you will see is that the fastest listed is [email protected] But if you use the actual mode option listed as Slo-mo then you get 240fps. They were lazy and didn't do their research.
I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-camera-observations-t3685747/page5
Use the youtube links and not the embedded videos. No idea why the embedded stopped working.
And I should note that those videos were made in a bar where they keep the volume at a level that trips the Receiver As Mic. That doesn't come on until 120 decibels. The RAM was tripped right from the start.
here's my sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Un4M7gW1QQ
really disappointed with all the shaking from the ois / camera. google seems to turn up quite a few results for this issue. Seems no one has mentioned it here though. here's the video I made entirely with the V30 Cine mode.. really not happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HDo_noiR7c
I get pixelated sky (and any other surfaces with gradient) when shooting in 4k (any bitrate, any camera app)
The solution is h265/HEVC
I checked a lot of reviews on YouTube before buying the phone and their videos don't seem to have this pixelation.
Can somebody shoot a 4k video of the sky with default camera app and do some movements while recording?
I would like to know if it's a wide spread issue or my phone is faulty.
My device model: LG-AS998
i have serious problems with in-video audio quality, especially in the manual mode, with hi-fi setting. on softer sounds it has a weird "compression artifact" like stuttering, although its lossless audio.
this is the mode that sohuld be ok for semi-professional videos according to the ads and phone blogger, but its absolutely not!
so a kinda mediocre video quality that promises great audio to make up for it, but it doesnt deliver.
I made a post about this in QA with samples.
There is pretty clear what I talk about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/weird-audio-stutter-video-quality-sound-t3919793
it would be nice if someone reacted to this who also tried to use this phone for vlogging, making videos for editing etc.
Hi.iwanna ask about h.265 codec setting in our axon 7. Im using a2017g on b08 firmware. Is it normal when i set video to h.265 codec and 60fps the video become slightly zoomed compared to h.264 codec? Thanks
You mean the 1080p at 60fps mode using h.265? I have noticed that also.
That's probably a sensor crop. Sometimes you see that on devices when developers want to include a format that pushes the limits of what the hardware can handle. The device will sample less than the full dimensions of what the sensor can capture so that it is processing a more manageable amount of data. It then upscales each frame to the target resolution.
Personally, I think the 1080p 60fps mode on the Axon 7 looks like garbage. It's not just cropping the sensor, it's sporadically blurry because I think it's also interpolating a certain number of frames to reach 60fps. The bitrate looks inadequate and the colors are washed out. Most SD 820 phones don't even attempt a 1080p 60fps mode. While it's a type of real time hardware encoding that the chipset technically supports, I believe the results are not desirable. It probably drops a lot of frames unless developers implement tricks to improve the raw performance as Axon has attempted.
The 4K video mode at 30fps that uses h.265 looks pretty good to me though as long as there is an adequate amount of light. There's no sensor crop, the colors look better, there's substantially less blurring, and the level of compression artifacting visible is much lower.
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You mean the 1080p at 60fps mode using h.265? I have noticed that also.
That's probably a sensor crop. Sometimes you see that on devices when developers want to include a format that pushes the limits of what the hardware can handle. The device will sample less than the full dimensions of what the sensor can capture so that it is processing a more manageable amount of data. It then upscales each frame to the target resolution.
Personally, I think the 1080p 60fps mode on the Axon 7 looks like garbage. It's not just cropping the sensor, it's sporadically blurry because I think it's also interpolating a certain number of frames to reach 60fps. The bitrate looks inadequate and the colors are washed out. Most SD 820 phones don't even attempt a 1080p 60fps mode. While it's a type of real time hardware encoding that the chipset technically supports, I believe the results are not desirable. It probably drops a lot of frames unless developers implement tricks to improve the raw performance as Axon has attempted.
The 4K video mode at 30fps that uses h.265 looks pretty good to me though as long as there is an adequate amount of light. There's no sensor crop, the colors look better, there's substantially less blurring, and the level of compression artifacting visible is much lower.
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Yes.thats answer my question.thank you:laugh:
argblah said:
You mean the 1080p at 60fps mode using h.265? I have noticed that also.
That's probably a sensor crop. Sometimes you see that on devices when developers want to include a format that pushes the limits of what the hardware can handle. The device will sample less than the full dimensions of what the sensor can capture so that it is processing a more manageable amount of data. It then upscales each frame to the target resolution.
Personally, I think the 1080p 60fps mode on the Axon 7 looks like garbage. It's not just cropping the sensor, it's sporadically blurry because I think it's also interpolating a certain number of frames to reach 60fps. The bitrate looks inadequate and the colors are washed out. Most SD 820 phones don't even attempt a 1080p 60fps mode. While it's a type of real time hardware encoding that the chipset technically supports, I believe the results are not desirable. It probably drops a lot of frames unless developers implement tricks to improve the raw performance as Axon has attempted.
The 4K video mode at 30fps that uses h.265 looks pretty good to me though as long as there is an adequate amount of light. There's no sensor crop, the colors look better, there's substantially less blurring, and the level of compression artifacting visible is much lower.
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naset said:
Yes.thats answer my question.thank you:laugh:
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What about 1080p60 on the Lineage camera? I believe it looks much better than stock 1080p60.
Maybe snap is even better (caf sources?)
Also, I have no idea about this sorta stuff, but what would the bottleneck be? There's a dedicated image processing thingy on-die, right?
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What about 1080p60 on the Lineage camera? I believe it looks much better than stock 1080p60.
Maybe snap is even better (caf sources?)
Also, I have no idea about this sorta stuff, but what would the bottleneck be? There's a dedicated image processing thingy on-die, right?
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Never try los yet so i dont know the quality
@argblah,
Hi, have you tried this issue on other phone? Have you fixed your phone's problem?