[TA-1021] It's possible to remove bloatware with no root? - Nokia 6 Questions & Answers

Autodescriptive. Without rooting it nor code licence I want to know if there is a way to eliminate pre-installed apps on my phone. Not disabling: removing permanently. I tried an app called Debloater but it says my device Nokia 6 does not allow blocking, so useless.
Thank you very much.

the only option is by disabled them, if your phone not rooted

alexholox said:
Autodescriptive. Without rooting it nor code licence I want to know if there is a way to eliminate pre-installed apps on my phone. Not disabling: removing permanently. I tried an app called Debloater but it says my device Nokia 6 does not allow blocking, so useless.
Thank you very much.
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Have you searched online for the PM Uninstall method? I've done it on every Android phone I've owned the last few years. It can be done without ROOT. Here's a guide I found on XDA. Hope it works.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/

Without root it uninstalls apps from user space only. Apps are restored after factory reset, so you would need to repeat uninstall process in case of reset.

qwertysmerty said:
Without root it uninstalls apps from user space only. Apps are restored after factory reset, so you would need to repeat uninstall process in case of reset.
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Yeah the apps would come back after factory reset but as long as you don't have to do that, the apps are as close to uninstalled as can be in that situation. I assume this method would work for OP since he's asking for a solution that doesn't require root. So he's not installing ROMS and keeping everything stock.

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[Q] i need help, bricked my SM-g870a

Disclaimer: this has nothing to do with the quality of the program i was working with and everything to do with MY lack of knowledge of android systems and what I am doing.
purchesed: 8/23.2014
my att gs870a
rooted: towelroot
xposed module: donkeyguard
the last few things that i had done was to install ABP for android and then downloaded donkeyguard. i checked the box in modules for Xposed installer and it required a reboot. i rebooted device and it starts booting up and gets to att screen and stops.
boot loader is set to freeze most of the automatic updates including KNOX
i have root cloaker in place
Xposed privacy guard in place
i can reboot into manual holding up arrow, home and power keys
from there i dont know what to select: restore factory defaults?
please help
i can try to provide any extra information that you may require and i have more rooted updates on device. please take pity on a NOOB. i dont claim anything other than sometimes a little knowledge is dangerous.
thanks
patrrick
sorry that this is my first post. i have learned alot form this forum. this is my first android device. i had been on using BB 9930 up to now.
hi again
here is what i was able to work thru. hard boot holding vol/home/power into manual. at this point i was able to get kies3 to read device. reset to factory options and reinstalled last backup. phone is back up and running/rooted and reloaded with the exception of a couple of the last programs i had installed. now for the question:
it seems to be running slower than it was before. used TB to refreeze a number of apps and i was hoping it would show me if there were dup's. i am thinking this could be causing the slower operation. have used Antutu to check it against prior to brick. any thoughts on what might be causing it?
thanks in advance
patrick
pjciii said:
hi again
here is what i was able to work thru. hard boot holding vol/home/power into manual. at this point i was able to get kies3 to read device. reset to factory options and reinstalled last backup. phone is back up and running/rooted and reloaded with the exception of a couple of the last programs i had installed. now for the question:
it seems to be running slower than it was before. used TB to refreeze a number of apps and i was hoping it would show me if there were dup's. i am thinking this could be causing the slower operation. have used Antutu to check it against prior to brick. any thoughts on what might be causing it?
thanks in advance
patrick
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Try to factory reset again to eliminate all possible apps that may cause the problem
vndnguyen said:
Try to factory reset again to eliminate all possible apps that may cause the problem
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thank you i will after i get home from work.
patrick
ok, back
vndn thanks for the suggestion. what i did was take a close look at all the settings after the reinstall and what i found was Wifi had been switched to manual in advanced settings and was causing conflict with the system operation causing the slower operation. seems to be fine now. thanks for the help.
patrick
vndnguyen said:
Try to factory reset again to eliminate all possible apps that may cause the problem
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My problem is simula to pjciii, after install the donkey guard and phone gets brick but I just only need to reset cache partition and reinstall the xposed, I just simply don't use donkey guard, voila, nothing happened to me again

"device status - Custom" refurbished phone

Hi all
I've upgraded from S4 to s5 today
Bought a refurbished s5 unlocked from eBay (reputable seller)
Rather stupidly I didn't restore factory settings as I assumed seller would (they sell multiple phones so I'm assuming they know what they are doing!!)
Downloaded and updated all my apps and data already.
Then I've gone into settings and notice it says status is "custom". So I get message about custom software and updates won't work etc
I'm not quite sure why this would be the case?
I'm assuming they dont need to root to unlock the phone if it wasn't unlocked already?
Even if they had to root why would they install a custom rom? ?
2 questions:
1) I'm assuming I just need to download stock from sammobile and install using odin????
2) is there anything to worry about/check after buying a refurbished s5? Fingerprint works etc so I'm confident it's a real Samsung phone!
Just a couple of weird things like there is an app in the application manager called Baby crying monitor but there is no app anywhere I can find????!!!!
Any help appreciated.
Make sure cache is not set to "Art". This will cause same issue.
DeanonZL said:
Make sure cache is not set to "Art". This will cause same issue.
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Sorry, not sure what you mean by that? How do I check cashe isn't set to art?
2 other bits got me wondering..
There is knox mentioned in the application manager but there is no app for it (like this crying baby app thing)
also when I try to uninstall apps or try to stop "restarting" apps in "clean master" it says something about needing access and shows a screen shot of SU. Basically telling me I need root access with SU to able to perform those tasks.
Before I rooted my S4 I'm sure I didn't need root to uninstall programs through clean master? ??
I might be wrong but it maybe that a previous owner has rooted the phone and the root has been removed but a full reset not been done?
I dunno. It just feels a bit weird.!!!
As I am "Far from a Jedi", you could try using "phone info samsung". It is on the google play store. Will give you info about your phone to check.
Failing that, I would suggest a factory reset to return to a known starting point.
I know it will involve setting up your phone again, at least you will know for certain.
Hope this helps...
rootromnoob said:
Sorry, not sure what you mean by that? How do I check cashe isn't set to art?
2 other bits got me wondering..
There is knox mentioned in the application manager but there is no app for it (like this crying baby app thing)
also when I try to uninstall apps or try to stop "restarting" apps in "clean master" it says something about needing access and shows a screen shot of SU. Basically telling me I need root access with SU to able to perform those tasks.
Before I rooted my S4 I'm sure I didn't need root to uninstall programs through clean master? ??
I might be wrong but it maybe that a previous owner has rooted the phone and the root has been removed but a full reset not been done?
I dunno. It just feels a bit weird.!!!
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Have you thought about contacting the seller and saying I want a different phone or money off as this shows custom, has Knox flag been tripped in the download menu? From power off hold vol down + power + home.
Thanks to all replies!
So a factory reset has got it cleaned up.
I've used the app mentioned in previous post and everything is legit.
Knox is at 0.0
It still says Custom though but considering everything is legit I'm not too fussed
Would like to know why it says custom though!!???
Unrelated question (didn't want to hog posts by creating a new one....)
I've been using clean master on my s4 and I was using between 35-50% of ram.
On my s5 I'm running consistantly at a lot higher ram I'm having to boost frequently during the day
Is it because the s5 just uses more ram or is it related to the fact I was rooted on the s4 and debloated a tonne of c**p? ????
(The ram is well over 1gb most of the time. Even when I boost it only goes to about 50%)
I don't get lag or slowness but as a bit OCD I want lower!!!)
Any ideas why it's so high?
Its normal, IDK why. I'm running AICP and even I've never seen my ram usage dip below 1.2GB, it was 1.4GB on the Sammy rom.
Annoyingly I've now reinstalled all apps and folder etc (after factory reset)to find out that certain apps won't work because it says my phone is rooted.
Is my only option now to try reinstall software through kies ??
rootromnoob said:
Annoyingly I've now reinstalled all apps and folder etc (after factory reset)to find out that certain apps won't work because it says my phone is rooted.
Is my only option now to try reinstall software through kies ??
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if your knox is 0x0 your varanty is fine. well u can use xblast xposed tools to change the custom to official. after this u can receive updates on your phone. if u don't want to keep your phone rooted after update phone is going to be unrooted if u want to keep it buy su pro and tick on survival mode.

[Q] Note 3, will rooting do what I want?

Hi guys,
I have always been contempt with my factory Note 3 image, but there were always a few things that I didn't like, like a bunch of bloatware apps that I could not uninstall. I have simply disabled them. I tried one of these uninstall apps and it said I need root access to remove some apps, would root access actually allow me to remove these apps?
If I root the device and get rid of these apps, and then remove the root, would they re-appear after a lollipop update if it ever comes?
I am planning on using Towelroot to do the rooting on the phone as I believe my software version is old enough.
eblend said:
Hi guys,
I have always been contempt with my factory Note 3 image, but there were always a few things that I didn't like, like a bunch of bloatware apps that I could not uninstall. I have simply disabled them. I tried one of these uninstall apps and it said I need root access to remove some apps, would root access actually allow me to remove these apps?
If I root the device and get rid of these apps, and then remove the root, would they re-appear after a lollipop update if it ever comes?
I am planning on using Towelroot to do the rooting on the phone as I believe my software version is old enough.
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1. Yes, root access give you perms to delete the bloatware that bother you. (Ex: HERE).
2. The bloatware will re-appear when you flash a new firmware ofc.
3. Towelroot works perfectly for what you need :highfive:.

After using UPSM Manager and UPSM+ almost all apps disabled/disappeared

Hi there
I wanted to add Messenger to UPSM screen (Ultra power saving mode), so I've tried UPSM Manager and UPSM+. None of them worked on my Galaxy S5 however, after few tries almost all of my apps disappeared. There are a few left. System: Contacts, Text messages, Phone, Settings plus Google and Lockwatch. That's all. The rest disappeared.
On application manager in settings I can see all of them, most of them have status "disabled".
I've downloaded those two apps from here:
UPSM Manager - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751785
UPSM+ - http://downloadapk.net/down_UPSM-ROOT.html
I've read that there is a very high probability that they won't work and that Google does not refund price in such case hence downloading .apk - could it be some kind of trojan from the 2nd link?
I've connected with adb console and
PHP:
pm list packages -d
shows 300+ packages as disabled.
PHP:
pm list packages -d | while read line ; do pm enable ${line#*:} ; done
fails with
PHP:
Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from ...
I can't run su as it freezes adb shell - su is also disabled so I can't enable it nor reinstall (Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR])
Any hint how to restore my phone? Right now it has less features than Nokia 3210...
So maybe I'll ask a different question. Is there a way in my current state to regain root access (via adb shell) and enable disabled apps?
Marooned_MB said:
So maybe I'll ask a different question. Is there a way in my current state to regain root access (via adb shell) and enable disabled apps?
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Hi,
In order to get helped it is always useful to provide at the beginning some basic info like phone model, firmware ver , root, recovery (custom or stock) etc.
Easiest way when you messed up your phone would be just restore your nandroid backup but I assume that you didn't make one, did you?
If not, easiest way IMO to regain root is just flashing CF-autoroot or if you have a custom recovery supersu zip file.
I wrote in Galaxy S5 forum so
Anyway: Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F), Android 5.0, G900FXXU1BOJ1, stock os, rooted
Haven't heard of nandroid before. I had titanium backup, but that's just apps I assume and they are still present on the phone, just disabled.
I haven't heard of CF-autoroot neither, but after picking matching details I got to desktop.firmware.mobi/device:370/firmware:12219 (I can't post urls with <10 posts). I'll have to read what to do with it without breaking a phone even more.
Marooned_MB said:
I wrote in Galaxy S5 forum so
Anyway: Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F), Android 5.0, G900FXXU1BOJ1, stock os, rooted
Haven't heard of nandroid before. I had titanium backup, but that's just apps I assume and they are still present on the phone, just disabled.
I haven't heard of CF-autoroot neither, but after picking matching details I got to desktop.firmware.mobi/device:370/firmware:12219 (I can't post urls with <10 posts). I'll have to read what to do with it without breaking a phone even more.
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Here is the link to CF-autoroot for S5 variants:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
For applying you need to be familiar with using odin pc software. Be aware that this will trigger KNOX flag if yours is still 0x0.
By the way, how did you root your device initially?
KNOX was set when I initially enable root. To be honest, I can't recall which software I used, but it just worked without any problems. I was more than a year ago. Maybe it was CF but I just don't remember the name?
Anyway, I've generated image via CF-autoroot but it fails:
<ID:0/004> Complete(Write) operation failed.
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
and now phone says "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again" :-/
Many40 said:
Here is the link to CF-autoroot for S5 variants:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
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That one succeed. There is a high probability I've used that one upon first root.
Anyway, it succeed but adb shell and then su still freezes. Nothing changed. Still no root I guess.
Marooned_MB said:
That one succeed. There is a high probability I've used that one upon first root.
Anyway, it succeed but adb shell and then su still freezes. Nothing changed. Still no root I guess.
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Hmm, so you still can't enable any disabled apps? I am afraid that you may need to try factory reset and if this doesn't help then re-flash complete firmware with full wipe. Before I would make backup of all useful staff what is still working and available in your phone.
Edit: did you read whole app thread? There are a few solutions/workarounds which helped some users with their issues but not sure if it is applicable to your problem,
Many40 said:
Hmm, so you still can't enable any disabled apps?
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Yes, exactly the same access denied error as mentioned in the 1st post. Like nothing changed at all.
Many40 said:
Before I would make backup of all useful staff what is still working and available in your phone.
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I've downloaded all files (available without root) from sd card and internal memory.
Many40 said:
did you read whole app thread? There are a few solutions/workarounds which helped some users with their issues but not sure if it is applicable to your problem,
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Nope, I will then. At least I'll try (157 pages!)
Thanks for your help
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I am afraid that you may need to try factory reset
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There is a button "delete everything" but it does not work. Nothing happens when I click it. So the next step is to reflash firmware? That seems like a bit over my knowledge at the moment :/
Also, I assume there is no way to backup sms/mms - not able to install any backup soft and no root for adb:
PHP:
adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
adb: error: failed to copy '/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db' to '.\mmssms.db': remote Permission denied
I'll try from recovery menu.
Ok, so it worked from recovery menu. Data are wiped, phone install some german bloatware and it's like when I first bought it. As I suspected, despite Google backup enabled, it does not work. No apps are being installed. I have to recreate every single app with it's data. That's a small disaster, ech..
Samsung backup restored some sms/mms but from February this year (heh).
Looks like all those automatic backup from Samsung and Google does not work at all and I should probably do some cyclic manual data dump. So why all those backup settings if it does nothing at all?
Anyway, thanks for your help.
Marooned_MB said:
Ok, so it worked from recovery menu. Data are wiped, phone install some german bloatware and it's like when I first bought it. As I suspected, despite Google backup enabled, it does not work. No apps are being installed. I have to recreate every single app with it's data. That's a small disaster, ech..
Samsung backup restored some sms/mms but from February this year (heh).
Looks like all those automatic backup from Samsung and Google does not work at all and I should probably do some cyclic manual data dump. So why all those backup settings if it does nothing at all?
Anyway, thanks for your help.
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Sorry for that. What do you mean by saying "no apps installed" You wrote before that your apps (user and most of the system) have been disabled, not uninstalled by the UPSM.
Are all your disabled system apps still at the same state after factory reset?
You wrote german bloatware? It looks like you have German branded Lollipop 5.0 firmware installed. I would definitely move to Polish latest unbranded (XEO) Marsmallow 6.0.1 to clean up your phone or if you wish to have rooted and debloated stock-based firmware then this rom is a very good alternative:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-ane4-kitkat-4-4-2-multi-csc-t2813628
Many40 said:
What do you mean by saying "no apps installed" You wrote before that your apps (user and most of the system) have been disabled, not uninstalled by the UPSM.
Are all your disabled system apps still at the same state after factory reset?
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By saying "no apps installed" I meant that after factory reset (wipe from recovery menu) and signing into my google account, backup restore did not install anything. But I've done yet another reset, this time from options and this time I've set up google account on welcome wizard and.. it worked, google backup restored all 107 apps BUT with no settings (they claim that settings should be also restored), so I have all my apps, but with no settings, so like after fresh install. I'm recreating everything from scratch, one by one.
Many40 said:
You wrote german bloatware? It looks like you have German branded Lollipop 5.0 firmware installed. I would definitely move to Polish latest unbranded (XEO) Marsmallow 6.0.1 to clean up your phone or if you wish to have rooted and debloated stock-based firmware then this rom is a very good alternative:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-ane4-kitkat-4-4-2-multi-csc-t2813628
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Yup, phone was bought as (I'm not sure how to translate "powystawowy") refurbished, from shop exhibition(?), a bit cracked on corners, but 2x cheaper. Anyway, it was just a matter of uninstalling 5 German apps (with root of course).
I did not put any other firmware as the one from Samsung has some unique features like mentioned ultra power saving which I enjoy on long travels. I've read that custom roms does not support this or NFC and few others.

Possible to copy app data from Oreo 6P to Nougat S8+?

So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Any suggestions for how to do it? The apps themselves are no big deal, I can download from the Play Store, but I want my data.
6P is still completely stock - locked bootloader, so I would have to erase it to root. This would defeat the purpose. If there is a way to do a complete backup, root, and restore so I could use TiBu that would be awesome.
I do have Google apps backup enabled, and I have a backup on Drive that I can find and see all my apps. However, according to this link you can't restore from a newer version of Android to an older one. It never gives me the option to restore when I add my Google account to the new phone, and I can't find a way to restore from Drive on the new phone, even though I can see all the apps in the backup. Downloading apps from the store doesn't restore their data either. I can't downgrade my 6P back to Nougat without root either.
I tried Helium Backup, but it just simply doesn't work. As evidenced by many comments on the Play Store it doesn't work on the 6P.
Am I just stuck? I would think there would be a better solution than this.
You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root
coremania said:
You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root
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The problem I am having with Helium backup is that it just doesn't seem to work. If I connect through port 5000 from my PC (PC download) and tell it to backup then it just sits there and says "waiting for [IP address]" and never comes back to save anything. If I try to backup to the device, it does a couple of different things - it comes up and asks for my device password (which I put in settings) and then it fills in the password for me, but then either the "Back Up My Data" is grayed out or it sits on that screen, fills in the password, and then the apps start cycling through while it is adding characters to the password, then it gets stuck and stops. I have to reboot the phone to reset the backup to try again. (It's not locked up, just Helium is stuck.)
I'll look into Holo and Super Backup.
Followup: No go on the others. It says Holo can only be used to restore to the same device, and Super Backup needs root to backup the app data.
Bad for you, I doubt there is way for you to backup with a locked bootloader if none of the apps are working.
The only way to root a phone without a patched boot.img (SuperSU and magisk) is to use kingroot, but I highly doubt this will work. Do yourself a favor and root your s8 to avoid this the next time.
https://consumingtech.com/install-kingroot-android-8-0-oreo-apk-app-for-android-mobile/
Try it, I never thought I would link something like that
Matthew Carson said:
So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Am I just stuck?
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Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.
v12xke said:
Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.
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The problem is that Google restore didn't work either since it was going from an Oreo device to a Nougat device. I didn't think backing up was a big deal since Google is supposed to handle it, but it's not doing me any good at all. I couldn't do a full restore from the phone, and when I reinstall apps from the Play Store it doesn't include the data. Most things have accounts so I can set it back up again, but all of my preferences and settings for every app are gone. I'm pretty much having to go through app by app and reconfigure everything. Plus I have lost high scores and low times for several games...
My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.
Matthew Carson said:
...My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.
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I'm afraid I can't be of much help because I don't use Android Pay or Samsung devices (except the Galaxy Nexus which was great) ...but both Pay and PlayStore seem to be working fine on most rooted devices. I have never had a PS issue due to my phone being rooted. I just know I won't be without root because the root apps I use are more important to me in every day use. It's up to the individual to decide whether root is right for them, or not. I suggest hanging out in the Sammy board here on XDA, read and ask questions until you know what you want to do. BUT what I said earlier is true and most will vouch for me... make the decision asap, because unlocking and rooting will require wiping the phone.
Edit: Side note... just found this article which doesn't help you, but it does raise a question: Did you initiate the restore during the initial setup process on the S8+ or afterwards? If afterwards, wiping the phone and trying Google restore again may work.
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