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i have been using the htc g1 for several months now and have noticed that its performance is not as good as it used 2 be. by this i mean the interface is very slow now and in performing small tasks it tends to lag frequently. my phone is updated to cupcake 1.5. i am wondering if any if you can suggest ways to improve the functionality of my phone for example, by installing a different firmware. i have tried deleting several of my apps from the market but that only improved the situation slightly. thanks
arbab01 said:
i have been using the htc g1 for several months now and have noticed that its performance is not as good as it used 2 be. by this i mean the interface is very slow now and in performing small tasks it tends to lag frequently. my phone is updated to cupcake 1.5. i am wondering if any if you can suggest ways to improve the functionality of my phone for example, by installing a different firmware. i have tried deleting several of my apps from the market but that only improved the situation slightly. thanks
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Do you have root? if so,then just upgrade to Cyanogen's latest build his are much faster then the stock firmware. Also, rather then randomly deleting apps, have you tried any of the task managers? There are apps that run constantly in the background, enough of them at once will slow your phone down big time. Do you have a lot of widgets, apps or folders on your home screen? Too many and it bogs down your home screen.
yes i do have a task manager and i only seems to help slight. i do have apps on my home screen but not so much only about 3 pages worth and i think the phone should be able to handle that. my phone is not rooted. how do i get the firmware u are talking about. more info would be great.
A fresh wipe would make it VERY fast. Uninstalling apps and such from stock firmware doesn't really help... well, it didnt atleast for me
arbab01 said:
yes i do have a task manager and i only seems to help slight. i do have apps on my home screen but not so much only about 3 pages worth and i think the phone should be able to handle that. my phone is not rooted. how do i get the firmware u are talking about. more info would be great.
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clear out ur cache.
brian_v3ntura said:
clear out ur cache.
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What cache are you talking about?
arbab01 said:
i have been using the htc g1 for several months now and have noticed that its performance is not as good as it used 2 be. by this i mean the interface is very slow now and in performing small tasks it tends to lag frequently. my phone is updated to cupcake 1.5. i am wondering if any if you can suggest ways to improve the functionality of my phone for example, by installing a different firmware. i have tried deleting several of my apps from the market but that only improved the situation slightly. thanks
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Menu>Settings>Applications>Manage Applications
Goto each one on the list and it will have a button that says Clear Cache and Clear Data. Tap both of those and after doing them all you should be fine. It might take awhile to do them all but it will fix your problem.
I have only had the phone a few days and having installed about 10apps the performance of the phone has slowed a lot.i have task killer installed and making sure I'm shutting down most apps when not in use, But everything has slowed since I installed the last fm app
Is there a directory where temp files are stored?
Any help would be great!
Chances are pretty high that you have the same problem as I did, that one of the apps are slowing it down in some manner. You could also replace the TwLauncher (Samsungs ****ty home app) with something like Launcher Pro, which is my recommendation. Just doing that will garner you some performance help.
I already useG launcher pro, but I just restarted my phne and its sped up again.and my ram has increased also.I'm confused
Flash your phone with the modaco Rom and run the lag fix script. This is a temporary problem and a temporary fix. Samsung will fix it soon. They know about it but the phone was rushed out. Needs upgrading that's all. Mine runs very smoothly.
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So everyone s been having same problem? So this is looking to be fixed in android 2.2
alpystar said:
So everyone s been having same problem? So this is looking to be fixed in android 2.2
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Doesn't look like an Android problem, but a phone specific so you need to rely on a fix from Samsung.
As mentioned above, nothing to do with Android ~ just bad coding on the part of software Apps installed.
What I have done and recommended to many is to get hold of the App 'SystemPanel'.
There are two versions available on The Market ~ SystemPanel Lite (Free) & SystemPanel App (Paid).
Try the Lite version first. It will firstly allow you to see exactly which application is hogging your system/taking memory/using battery performance/etc./etc.
It has detailed graphs/plots and about everything but the kitchen sink added to aid you in finding what is going on.
On top of that it also has the most detailed selection process of closing down Apps.
I purchased it almost immediately and know many others who have followed suit.
I don't get any further performance issues ~ period.
I have 150 apps, and yes there is slowness, i am also using minfreemanager on aggressive setting and this makes a HUGE difference.
Not sure what google can do about bad coding, is there a way to figure out which apps can cause slowness?
kirandeep said:
I have 150 apps, and yes there is slowness, i am also using minfreemanager on aggressive setting and this makes a HUGE difference.
Not sure what google can do about bad coding, is there a way to figure out which apps can cause slowness?
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Yes... read my post I made just above yours.
so i should use SystemPanel Lite rather then task killer?
im noticing a massive slowness after everytime i use last fm music strem :-s
ryukent said:
Flash your phone with the modaco Rom and run the lag fix script. This is a temporary problem and a temporary fix. Samsung will fix it soon. They know about it but the phone was rushed out. Needs upgrading that's all. Mine runs very smoothly.
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I read somewhere that the lag fix will recreate the problem of Android, which is low space to install apps!!
Is that right?
alpystar said:
so i should use SystemPanel Lite rather then task killer?
im noticing a massive slowness after everytime i use last fm music strem :-s
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If you really want to find out what is slowing down your system then yes, use SystemPanel.
I can't remember what the difference is between the Lite & Full version.
All I know is I found it looked that good I get the Full version and have not looked back since.
The Lite version will give you some indication what the program does but please check what you get extra in the Full version.
Hey guys, just a quick question to see if anyone else is experience the home screen reload that is infamous with Sense on older phones like G1/Magic etc.
I've had the magic since it came out and upgraded to DHD, but have recently been having the same issues, where the home screen reloads, get the big HTC white with green.
Any certain apps to help with this? or perhaps that are causing this?
Appreciate your response
Hmm yes I get this too sometimes. But it only ever happens when I'm either listening to music for hours or have changed some setting in the phone, I don't think there is a fix to be honest but I could be wrong. Maybe gingerbread will fix this ?
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This happens to me too, but it only happens when i 'mistreat' my phone. i.e. when i open an app,and be4 its finished opening i press the home button ... or something like that
i think this htc screen comes because maybe an error occurred with the sense UI or something and thats their way of handling the error.
i personally dont think its a problem, rather a solution to a problem, so dont be scared.
fyi: no one told me this, it just makes sense to me, since it only happens when i mistreat my phone....maybe they made a different way to handle this with their new Sense UI: 3.0.
im so hyper about it!!, and im hoping that it'll come with the new update!!!!
It happens to me as well but my home screen reloads when I kills some apps
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Quick question, do you all have "Spare Parts" installed?
spare parts?
Yes, spare parts. If Activity/Process Management is set to aggresive it will produce the same issue your post is describing.
I remembered a similar issue a while ago, read through THIS thread (11 posts) and let me know if the screenshot looks similar.
Those with this problem, try uninstall the Flash 10.2 update, reboot your phone and see if its solved.
Not enough RAM can lead to reboot of sense UI?
ABorgh said:
Not enough RAM can lead to reboot of sense UI?
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No, the DHD has plenty of RAM. Its a badly configured task killer.
it happens to me sometimes though I haven't chose anything in spare parts (it shows empty normal and aggressive check box) and I don't have any task killer (well I have a program called ZDbox which has the ability to kill apps you select) and when it happens it doesn't stop unless you restart your phone.I think a certain app is causing this but I don't know which
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it happens to me sometimes though I haven't chose anything in spare parts (it shows empty normal and aggressive check box) and I don't have any task killer (well I have a program called ZDbox which has the ability to kill apps you select) and when it happens it doesn't stop unless you restart your phone.I think a certain app is causing this but I don't know which
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A few weeks ago i had this problem with Flash 10.2. There was a memory leak and as a result android was killing all apps and even killed Sense as a result of Flash taking up more and more ram. So Flash 10.2 might be the culprit here. Check to see which version you have and uninstall the update.
so when you went back to 10.1,the issue was gone?
Hakimy said:
so when you went back to 10.1,the issue was gone?
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You would be correct sir/mam.
Updated to stock 5.1.1 on my note 4 n910u variant last week, and I noticed that it kills apps that are suppose to stay in memory,like Adguard or pintasking. This was not an issue on 5.0.1 and I'd like to know if anyone has observed this.
I'm not running any task killing apps or Xposed modules.
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Yep, me too. 5.1.1 is closing apps like Network manager, Silent, No root vpn,...
don't have task killer and not rooted
pr1jker said:
Yep, me too. 5.1.1 is closing apps like Network manager, Silent, No root vpn,...
don't have task killer and not rooted
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Damn. I guess it was too much to ask to get a fully functional firmware update from Sammy? ?
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I think it happens when an app calls System.exit() upon service termination. Previously, the system would restart the service but now it seems it kills it until restarted manually.
Try contacting the app's author to ask if they do that.
Well, on second thought, it seems to still kill my app even though I removed System.exit().
I have no idea why it happens. Services are supposed to be restarted automatically.
zapek666 said:
Well, on second thought, it seems to still kill my app even though I removed System.exit().
I have no idea why it happens. Services are supposed to be restarted automatically.
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Sigh... this is probably why 5.1.1 is giving me better battery life... it kills everything ?
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I wonder what "algorithm" they use through because it doesn't happen with everything. I know that once a service is killed that way, the only way to run it again is to start the app manually.
Could it be that? http://androiding.how/fix-app-reloading-galaxy-s6-5-1-1/
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Could it be that? http://androiding.how/fix-app-reloading-galaxy-s6-5-1-1/
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It'd be interesting to know and I may try it later on. I wonder if this might help with multitasking in general - not just services being killed.
EDIT: doesn't help with multitasking, but I'll see if it helps with the persistent apps closing.
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Ok, the thing is called "SmartAdjustManager" and it's indeed some thing that tries to classify running processes.
I'm not fully done with it yet but it seems the following factors avoid killing:
- it's a Samsung process (of course)
- it's a carrier added package
- it's some Google services (but not Android Wear it seems, which is quite an oversight)
- it has a widget running on the homescreen (could be a usable workaround for some apps)
- it has a notification
- its packagename ends with ".cocktailbarservice" *
It does its statistics during a few days (3 days.. 7 days..) which explains why things can run well then all of a sudden a particular services gets killed all the time.
Its whitelist can be updated by some external system but I didn't find where the file is yet.
The following build.prop vars control it (default in parenthesis):
sys.config.samp_enable (true)
sys.config.samp_hotness_enable (true, needs samp_enable too)
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable (false)
sys.config.samp_debug (false)
sys.config.samp_debug_trace (false)
sys.config.samp_debug_spcm (number, none)
It also uses these vars for memory management (when to kill and so on):
sys.config.s_dha_margin
sys.config.s_dha_bg_max
sys.config.s_dha_bg_min
sys.config.s_dha_db_kill
sys.config.s_dha_extra_cache
sys.config.s_dha_cache_max
sys.config.service_kill_adj
*: so it seems the workaround in my case is to add .cocktailbarservice to my packagename.. ridiculous.
You can add the package name to a whitelist stored at:
/data/misc/lpnet/lpnetConfig
(needs root)
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
Code:
sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
Are you using any DHA tweaks or just those few lines?
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To zapek666:
Are those last 2 lines to be added below the first line you mentioned?
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zapek666 said:
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
Code:
sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
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Are these edits exclusive to Lollipop 5.1.1 or will they work on Lollipop 5.0.1 or even Kitkat 4.4.4?
Same problem here. Apps get killed all the time. So what to do with a non rooted phone? I tried to change settings of this awful smart manager thing, but still: my phone is not reliable anymore. Btw: Battery life is more or less the same for me.
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Updated to stock 5.1.1 on my note 4 n910u variant last week, and I noticed that it kills apps that are suppose to stay in memory,like Adguard or pintasking. This was not an issue on 5.0.1 and I'd like to know if anyone has observed this.
I'm not running any task killing apps or Xposed modules.
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Try COI or COJ Stock update.
Everything feel much better from COH.
All your problem is from fingerprint bug.
If you are in COH update, try disable fingerprint until you update to COI or COJ stock.
I'm on COJ stock update with fingerprint enabled.
No more random lag, random hot boot & no more random app killing.
zapek666 said:
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
Code:
sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
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I'm still testing these, but first impression is that these seem to work, thanks. DHA only allowed about 4 active apps, now I can keep 7 or 8 apps in RAM and multitasking is much better. For people who want to give this one a shot, comment out all DHA lines in your build.prop if added by a Custom ROM, kernel etc and activate FHA instead.
vprasad1 said:
Are these edits exclusive to Lollipop 5.1.1 or will they work on Lollipop 5.0.1 or even Kitkat 4.4.4?
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The SPCM background services killer was added in 5.1.1. If the rest improves memory performances, I would guess so but I can't confirm as I didn't try with older firmwares.
More info here: http://zapek.com/blog/how-to-make-your-galaxy-note-4-fast-again/
can't you just use settings -> battery -> app optimization to edit the whitelist and disable smart manager?
just choose to never optimize certain apps and they should work normally again.
Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.
amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.
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Wrong thread, i don't know why you have such a problem, well i don't. Best way to do it, switch ROM's and see if problem still presist? @LenAsh can You move this thread?
RootingPro-18 said:
Wrong thread, i don't know why you have such a problem, well i don't. Best way to do it, switch ROM's and see if problem still presist @LenAsh can You move this thread?
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Hi, its not this ROM problem.. I have this problem in other ROMs even official ROM.
amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, its not this ROM problem.. I have this problem in other ROMs even official ROM.
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Your battery drains fast? How old are your battery?
RootingPro-18 said:
Your battery drains fast? How old are your battery?
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Seems to drain fast and charge slowly... I think....
Its about 4 years.
amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.
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Such a very rare issue.
Did you enable aggressive doze from greenify ?
amir.hz.karimi said:
Seems to drain fast and charge slowly... I think....
Its about 4 years.
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Man, 4 years? Change it now! Buy new one. I had to change after 2 years.
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Such a very rare issue.
Did you enable aggressive doze from greenify ?
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Yes, I enabled this option.
I think its related to android battery optimization... Because I use Greenify recently, and before I use Greenify have this problem too.
Ex: I run Orbot and ACR(Auto Call Recorder) and these apps open sticky notification. But some times android close these apps and show a notification about "These apps drain your battery", But I set Not optimize option for these apps!
RootingPro-18 said:
Man, 4 years? Change it now! Buy new one. I had to change after 2 years.
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Is it really related to phone battery? I don't think so
I think its related to Android Battery Optimization mechanism and this have a problem... May only in my case...
amir.hz.karimi said:
Yes, I enabled this option.
I think its related to android battery optimization... Because I use Greenify recently, and before I use Greenify have this problem too.
Ex: I run Orbot and ACR(Auto Call Recorder) and these apps open sticky notification. But some times android close these apps and show a notification about "These apps drain your battery", But I set Not optimize option for these apps!
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Whoa hold up ! Disable this first hehe . It aggressively stops all your background apps.
immortalized2018 said:
Whoa hold up ! Disable this first hehe . It aggressively stops all your background apps.
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I said before. I have this problem even before install Greenify and also on official ROM.
Ok, I'll disable aggressive doze.
amir.hz.karimi said:
I said before. I have this problem even before install Greenify and also on official ROM.
Ok, I'll disable aggressive doze.
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Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f
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Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f
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Same for me! Battery drained fast, changed battery all good. For the OP install app called AccuBattery from Google play, charge battery to 100% and let it dischage, you will see how good your battery is, my old one hade 35% life in it left, new on has 93%
garylawwd said:
Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f
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Please not I do not have trouble with battery charging or ...
I just trouble with Battery Optimization kill running application in background even if they set to Not optimize.
RootingPro-18 said:
Same for me! Battery drained fast, changed battery all good. For the OP install app called AccuBattery from Google play, charge battery to 100% and let it dischage, you will see how good your battery is, my old one hade 35% life in it left, new on has 93%
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I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!
amir.hz.karimi said:
I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!
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Dude, thats what optimization do!
amir.hz.karimi said:
I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!
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It kills apps because the device cant handle it. Its 1.5GB of RAM on a 4 year old budget device not a new flagship which has tons of RAM and is able to keep apps open.
Your expecting too much from this old slugger.
The only way you can have your apps always open is if you get a new device which has alot more RAM
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Dude, thats what optimization do!
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Yes I know! But I put some apps in White list... Set to not optimize these apps!!!!
But it kill apps anyway....
garylawwd said:
It kills apps because the device cant handle it. Its 1.5GB of RAM on a 4 year old budget device not a new flagship which has tons of RAM and is able to keep apps open.
Your expecting too much from this old slugger.
The only way you can have your apps always open is if you get a new device which has alot more RAM
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Oh.... yea... I think about it before but forgot it....
Thanks dude. You are always helpful...
amir.hz.karimi said:
Yes I know! But I put some apps in White list... Set to not optimize these apps!!!!
But it kill apps anyway....
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RAM is too low dude, they get killed anyway! If You run app witch eat a lot of ram, your app will be killed, if you don't use your phone for like 1h your app will be killed! And you can't do nothing about it.