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I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
CharliesTheMan said:
This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
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That looks very cool but my phone is not on the list plus it seems like something that is in its infancy still. I think a broader technology like bluetooth that could be compatible with many more devices may be a better way of connecting. I think that kind of thing will be awesome in a few years when they nail down a standard for communicating audio/video to the head unit, almost like the head unit is just a monitor to the phone and a touchscreen monitor at that.
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
App Radio 2 has many issues.
sureshot007 said:
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
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I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
Dan.S said:
I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
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I tried it WITH ARLiberator and I still hate it. I'm looking at the Chinese Double Din HU's now that run only Android (not wince and android).
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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Did you buy one? I'm looking at getting one like this or something similar...
I'm currently looking for a replacement for my Clarion CX501, any updates from anyone? Seems like the APT-X support has yet to hit the headunit market.
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
copekyle said:
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
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Get an android based double din radio, make sure its dual core, 1G Ram, DAB+ supported, 6.2-7" TFT capacitive touch screen, steering wheel controls supported and accepts WiFi dongle. you will have the mighty Google Play store to satisfy your imagination.
obviously such a unit would support most of the Bluetooth profiles.
I noticed few units on ebay but not from any known manufacturer. best i found was from some German supplier icar-tech
Alpha V800 and Alpha S600 are the ones, I haven't confirmed all the above requirements that I would wanna see in my next head unit.
Good Luck
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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You want Android in your car...install a tablet in the dash. That's the best option, or you could go with the Parrot. But from the reviews I've seen I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Car Stereo
Hi,
Did you end up getting this head unit?
Does it work well?
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I've had a look around many different forums and stores, and I'm still at square one. I totally agree that all that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support.
I've been into a few shops in the last few days and BT paired my GS2 running CM11 and Google Play Music with some head units....for what they can do via bluetooth, they all seem to do a decent job of it......I can skip/pause songs on either the head unti or the phone, Google Play Music on the phone updates as you switch songs on the HU.
But what it doesn't seem capable of (that I've seen or read about), which apparently iPhones can do, is change albums, browse by artist/genre, search, etc.....beyond the most basic of back/next/pause functions, unless I'm mistaken, it's just not possible when BT pairing an Android phone with any head unit on the market.
Can anyone definitively confirm that this is or is not true?
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Until then what are we supposed to do ..buy an IPhone?
I have a Google Nexus 4 and went too the effort of looking into the options. I find it utterly amazing in an Android phone you can't browse albums over bluetooth its simply a joke!
The best option would be to try to maybe get a double DIN car stereo with support some kind of screen mirroring so you can change album from the touch screen maybe something like a AVIC-F60DAB but it costs a grand would be cheaper for me to buy an IPhone!!!
I belive you need the AVRCP standard if you want the track listing to display on your headset via Bluetooth.
Even if I could get a Car Stereo to support my mobile..the big problem with the Google nexus and it seems many Android devices they don't support Bluetooth very well. There is a bug in the Nexus 4 so that when you are using bluetooth in your car stereo after a while Bluetooth will just turn off Google don't seem to care about fixing this..I don't really want to get an Apple but if means I can listen to Music via Bluetooth and get access to Google Music then why not.!!
I have a Double Din car stereo. It's the Pioneer AppRadio 3 and it works well mirroring my Nexus 5. There's an app called "AppRadio Unchained" which let's you control your phone via the touch screen of the stereo. The only downside is the lack of power on the radio which makes the scrolling not as fast as any Android phone nowadays, but the Bluetooth has been working non-stop for me.
I had to buy an HDMI dapter to make it compatible though.
I've had a look at these but they are expensive! Maybe if I get a raise I'll buy one haha!
I was hoping to get something similar, but without having to use a HDMI adapter, a completely wireless solution would be kick ass!
Google needs to start supporting MirrorLink on Nexus phones. I have a Nexus 6 and the Pioneer AVH-4100NEX.
Android Auto has been a horrible experience so far. It worked at first, for a couple of months, and then I don't know why (Android update maybe?) but suddenly it stopped working and hasn't worked since.
Even when it did work, there were some VERY annoying things:
1) if your phone is plugged into the USB cable, Android Auto launches, and as long as you're still plugged in I couldn't find any way to temporarily get out of Android Auto (such as if I want to check my email or some other app on the phone). Or if I want to listen to a YouTube video (or watch it from my phone, lets say I'm the passenger ok?), then I'd have to un-plug the USB which means my phone isn't charging.
2) The other really annoying thing is that Android Auto limits developers in how many screen clicks user would need to do to get to content (including, clicking the down arrow to browse through a long list). Where this is a problem for me for example, is my Spotify playlists. Android Auto will only display about 10 or so of my playlists.
So I find myself disconnecting the phone from the cable and just streaming over bluetooth.
In fact at first I was really upset that my phone was no longer launching Android Auto at all and stopped working with my Pioneer AVH-4100NEX, but now that I am just able to leave the phone charging all the time and have full access to my phone apps, all my spotify playlists, youtube, and am just streaming over bluetooth now I'm not really sure I even want to fix Android Auto.
What I really want at this point is to just MIRROR my phone screen to my head unit. This way no matter what I want to watch or listen to, it doesn't matter if "Android Auto" supports it or not. I can put on YouTube videos, or anything I want.
So this gets me back to Mirror Link, I don't know why Google or Motorola is not supporting it, MirrorLink from what I've seen should be another viable option for Android users (and for now I think a better option than Android Auto)
It seems it's being treated as something old/legacy but in fact I think it's a step in the right direction and something we should all have the capability to do with our phones.
natv said:
Google needs to start supporting MirrorLink on Nexus phones. I have a Nexus 6 and the Pioneer AVH-4100NEX.
Android Auto has been a horrible experience so far. It worked at first, for a couple of months, and then I don't know why (Android update maybe?) but suddenly it stopped working and hasn't worked since.
Even when it did work, there were some VERY annoying things:
1) if your phone is plugged into the USB cable, Android Auto launches, and as long as you're still plugged in I couldn't find any way to temporarily get out of Android Auto (such as if I want to check my email or some other app on the phone). Or if I want to listen to a YouTube video (or watch it from my phone, lets say I'm the passenger ok?), then I'd have to un-plug the USB which means my phone isn't charging.
2) The other really annoying thing is that Android Auto limits developers in how many screen clicks user would need to do to get to content (including, clicking the down arrow to browse through a long list). Where this is a problem for me for example, is my Spotify playlists. Android Auto will only display about 10 or so of my playlists.
So I find myself disconnecting the phone from the cable and just streaming over bluetooth.
In fact at first I was really upset that my phone was no longer launching Android Auto at all and stopped working with my Pioneer AVH-4100NEX, but now that I am just able to leave the phone charging all the time and have full access to my phone apps, all my spotify playlists, youtube, and am just streaming over bluetooth now I'm not really sure I even want to fix Android Auto.
What I really want at this point is to just MIRROR my phone screen to my head unit. This way no matter what I want to watch or listen to, it doesn't matter if "Android Auto" supports it or not. I can put on YouTube videos, or anything I want.
So this gets me back to Mirror Link, I don't know why Google or Motorola is not supporting it, MirrorLink from what I've seen should be another viable option for Android users (and for now I think a better option than Android Auto)
It seems it's being treated as something old/legacy but in fact I think it's a step in the right direction and something we should all have the capability to do with our phones.
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You have to take into account the many laws in different places concerning cell phones and driving. In some places you can get a ticket just for having your phone in your hand while driving. And now they are cracking down even harder on it. Also some OEM have been known to block some cars from working with devices like that. It was found that one samsung device had a list built into the OS that blocked a number of different cars from working with Android Auto. This I can only assume came from the Car manufacturer.
Also on a side not there is no need to open another thread about the same topic you have already replied to. This is called spamming.
Hey Guys,
I just bought a brand new Kenworth W900, and it has android auto (or something mimicing it) built in... A panapacific dea600... the major problem is it super kludge... amongst being terribly locked down, i cannot connect to an ad hoc wifi thru my windows 10 laptop (that is tethered to my S6 with easy tether)... my tablet can connect to the ad hoc no problems, and my stereo can see the network but cannot connect to it for some reason (i REALLY need to update the trucks GPS maps, and have you tried to use a truck stops wifi? (like dial up))... id really just like access to the OS or another launcher so i can add some apps that i need (no not facebook or stuff like that) and perhaps root and rom it....
its running android 4.2.2... and i can get you the entirely too long software version
Its sad really because this could be cutting edge stuff, but someone higher up had to come up with ways to neuter this damn thing... and look i get that there are things i shouldnt have access to while driving, but it DOES have android web browser built in so its not like they dont want us using it...
i dont expect the world as this unit has only been shipping with trucks for a few months... and many of you may not have come across it... but perhaps it shares hardware with another system and panapacific just stole it (it HAS happened many times)
thanks guys and look forward to replies before i finish going insane
Nobody?
DEA600 - SmartDisplay for Automotive Infotainment
Hey,
I just came across your note while search for this product - I was the software architect/tech lead for the supplier company providing the Android port and the Freescale SOM component of the display screen on this product line - although moved on shirtly after the system went to mass production. - it is awesome to see someone here discuss it!
You are very correct on a lot of you assumptions and assessments. it was a very ambitious project that really tried to leverage as much of what Android was capable of at the time it was planned, but tuned to work as a smart display for commercial vehicles.
The display is only a part of a system of components. The display runs a port of Android 4.2.2 - but highly tailored to its environment - pairs with the Delphi radio unit (as a peer, not as an accessory) and is toghtly coupled to the unit in production. as a security measure.
unfortunately for what you are looking for, though much of the upgrade and app installation capabilities have been locked down to prevent side loading or execution of "unauthorized" apps that don't have special keys fro. the OEM or manufacturer. even if installed, the system manager will kill any apps that are launched without keys.
you may be able to get a developer key from the OEM but I don't know how they chose to mange that in the final system.
thanks for the posting, though - it was a small run comparatively for android systems but it was a pretty damn cool system with what we did get working....
I would be happy to discuss more if you want. - with what I can....
- Chris
DEA600
hi there
i have same head unit in my 389 pride and class peterbilt, for the map part, that you can update by connecting it to your phones internet, either wifi hot spot if not then just connect it with bluetooth and use bluetooth tethering of phone and PAN of your DEA600, but main problem in the system is that you cant put a single thing without pulling breaks, and u cant download a single file by any means, it just displays error that unfortunately process.android. stopped or browser has stopped or settings has stopped. if any one figured out how to download anythimg in this little thing. please update
hello there. I have T-680 with DEA600. I had exactly the same problem and ended up taking my truck to a dealer. it turned out to be defected radio. After it was replaced, it would connect to a hotspot no problem ( im using htc 10).
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Hey guys so a friend of mine has the DEA601 in his new truck and drives him nuts that the passenger cannot control things when its going faster than 5km hour (his old Peterbuilt worked fine).
I'm a software eng and would like to find out how to disable the Distracted Driver feature (like you can do in settings on many other Android Auto ROM's like Honda). What are my options here? a) Make a whole new ROM (but how to do that?) b) try to hexedit the existing ROM and find where the 5 km value is and modify it c) add an add-on app somehow to override this limit or d) other???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Ckrobin said:
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
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I found out in order for the guages to work I need an $800 module my truck didn't come with. Now my biggest problem is the technology seems to have stagnated. The software on my phone and tablet are no longer very comparable with Android 4.2. I try my iPhone and my Android tablet and neither will play Pandora consistently. I am forced to use Bluetooth which looses sound quality on an already low quality stereo. I really wish Kenworth had spent their R &D on making their trucks compatible with idatalink like most aftermarket stereos use.
At this point I am torn between installing a hideaway marine stereo with a remote display and leaving this POS Pans Pacrapic as a display with nono sound. Or installing a line converter and amp and dealing with this clunky software. I wish someone would make a rom to upgrade this thing.
Looks like the Mfg won this round
Looks like the Mfg won this round
I'm driving one of these trucks also and I keep checking this post but I guess we havent incentivized anyone who cud help yet!
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
sunny530 said:
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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This is a 2+ year old thread being g responded to.
What is your point? 2years later and still no solution to the problem. I ran across this thread of people discussing the same problems I'm having with the radio unit. If you got something usefull to add to this discussion then please feel free otherwise you don't need to acknowledge when what was posted that helps me null with my problem.
Anyone here figure anything out?
still nothing
Hello! So I have little tech experience but I am willing to work with someone here to sort this out. Got a 17 w900 that I put a aftermarket double din in and retained smart nav for the gauges. What I did find was the screen (not the radio) gets a input from the wire harness off the ecm to give data to the screen. So I’ll attach a picture of the plug and maybe we can use this plus find it’s female counterpart then get the other end to plug into a maestro box? My Sony doesn’t have maestro. I do have a pioneer that does but can’t justify the cost being the Guinea pig. I’ve already been one of the first to get the tilt column to drop LOW and managed to fit a true 7” double din where the stupid nav was.
Ownice brings a new radio to the market, the C300
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car dvd player for universal 2 din OL-6666T_360.html
These are the most known specifications
1. OS: Android 4.4.4
2. CPU: AC8327 Quad core cortex-A7,1.0-1.2GHz (The IC is Specialy developed for Car DVD)
3. Fast Response: RAM 1G + ROM 16G
4. Resolution: 800*480/1024*600 TFT Capacitive Screen
5. Standard Features: Built-in WiFi + DVD + GPS Navi + FM/AM Radio + Bluetooth + Multimedia + USB/SD + AUX
6. Support: DAB+ OBDII + DVR +ipod +3G Dongle + TV(DVB-T2,DVB-T,MPEG4&ISDB-T) + Rear Camera + TMPS + MIRROR
7. Unique UI Design: Translucent Background gives a full-screen viewing
8. 3 sec quick boot
They seem to skip android 5.0, and going to android 6.0 this fall
i dont understand why the C200 had 2 gig of ram, and this new one looks like it has 1 gig. However I do like the looks of it, and the C200 gets pretty good reviews on XDA. So I emailed them about a C300 for my Jeep.
Has anyone ordered one? I'm curious on this unit as I require a cheap unit to go into my truck that will be used when required. So I don't need anything fancy but want something that will work.
I've been in contact with ownice and asked about where to get software updates and was told the unit wouldn't get any... Which is somewhat alarming. Perhaps its a language barrier with the person not understanding what I'm asking... Here's the quoted email.
--- my email to them ---
What's the warranty like if there were to have something go wrong with it (who would I contact)* how often is there firmware updates for the unit and where would I go to get the updates ?
--- response ---
Hi,Dear, All of these questions that you could ask me, *you could add my Skype and whatsapp for contact me any time.
If there are something wrong, I will give you solution or send the component for you replacement.*
Our c300 cannot upgrade the system.*
Thanks*
Best regards*
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:
best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.
some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.
couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.
summary:
if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.
on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.
as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.
if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
do you use streaming music, like google play music or spotify, any issues?
CadillacMike said:
do you use streaming music, like google play music or spotify, any issues?
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given data caps on mobile data, that's not something that i was terribly interested in, so i haven't had a chance to try it yet (i have 60gb of music hooked up to it via usb stick, which so far has proved to be plenty). as i understand it, most folks cache stuff on these units ahead of long drives, to avoid pulling data the whole way, but like i said, no experience with it myself.
found another con: internal microphone is garbage (when used via bluetooth) -- it works fine for google voice (although without contact sync, it's not terribly useful), but when making calls, it is waaaaaaaay too low in volume, and changing the gain setting in the settings doesn't help (just distorts the voice).
How's the radio ? Static or clear? Anyone try to root it yet?
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How's the radio ? Static or clear? Anyone try to root it yet?
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radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).
haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.
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radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).
haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.
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you can try this app for your radio from [email protected] http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3496422&d=1444056063 it works flawless on the C200
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you can try this app for your radio from [email protected] http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3496422&d=1444056063 it works flawless on the C200
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not sure that this app would work on the c300 -- different hardware in this unit from the c200 -- and not worth trying it (for me), since the stock radio works just fine (except the RDS info, which my old stereo didn't have, so I'm not really missing it).
now, if someone has a bluetooth rewrite that allows interaction between regular android apps and the bluetooth dialer -- i am all ears.
update: tried an external mic to fix the bluetooth mic issue and no dice, bluetooth doesn't seem to even recognize that there is an external mic present. so, can't use the radio to answer phone calls, because people on the other end can't hear you.
so, to recap, the things that don't work:
1. bluetooth phone calls due to issues with microphone
2. google contacts sync
3. OBDII bluetooth connections
things that do work:
1. waze
2. reverse camera
3. radio
4. playing music off USB stick
so, until waze comes out on android auto, i will keep this in the car. as soon as waze comes out on android auto, i will replace this with a mainstream unit that has android auto (like a pioneer NEX series or the new JBL that is coming out soon).
was it worth the $200? Only because i know of no other way to get waze into the car. otherwise, no, not for a second. not due to the cost, but due to having to fight it all the time to work out its issues.
Hello, I buy the C300, but disappointed by this one.
Problem of vehicle integration, I had cut out of the back of the car stereo support (on the vehicle) because the connectors can not pass!
No compatibility (interaction) with Ford convers + !
The SWC (steering wheel control programming) unusable, not a program! only the steering wheel volume + - + and defilement - works!
Can not delete the widget directly to the screen.
GPS works roughly although not change the sound alerts when it works, impossible to put the card day!
impossible to adjust the operating time of touch cutting, the C300 runs about 1 minute without contact.
Really disappointed !!!
CZ68 said:
bonjour, j'ai acheté le C300, mais déçu par celui ci.
Problème d’intégration au véhicule, j'ai du découper l’arrière du support autoradio (sur le véhicule) car les connectiques ne passées pas !
Pas de compatibilité (interaction) avec Ford convers+ !
Le SWC (programmation des commande au volant) inutilisable, impossible a programmer ! seul la commande au volant volume + - et le défilement + - fonctionne !
Impossible de supprimer les widget directement de l’écran.
Vraiment déçu !!![/QUO
Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
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Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
Hello, sorry no problem
I bought the http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car dvd player for universal 2 din OL-6666T_360.html Ownice c300 of the week
I 've had yesterday DAB + me inside. Only this does not connected but I can not find an app on the dab + to work . Should I take an extra measure to let him work ?
Problems
I Have brought a c300 ownice Radio it works almost flawless
I Have three problems:
1. Dap+ after a full reset is not clear anymore there are some gabbs in the Sound its like it is buffering or something...
2. Sometimes Random disconect of bleuthoot
3. Still Running on Android 4
Someone knows any solutions?
Greetings,
Mike
Thanks and icon deleting?
HI .
Im, new to this list and a owner of a Ownice C300 for my touareg.
I made my mind up on buying the Ownice after reading quite a few threds on this developers site. The only mystery was the specifications on the AM and FM receiver and how it performs in the real world. The Chinese specs are very vague.
I have been bench testing by Ownice for the past week and getting familiar with its operation.
The receiver on AM is quite good and I can receive stations easily up to 300km aways during the day. This was my biggest concern as I do long country drives. FM is good as well, not sure how its strong signal performance will do.
First thanks for your passwords you gave in the description below, like you said the screen was unusable if web browsing or mapping. :good:
My question is, may be a stupid one.
When you drag a icon or widget onto the home screen, how do you delete it? I cant find any mention of this in the C300 manual.
Is there a script that determines the frequency range of the AM FM receiver? Mine is set to Australia eg 9kHz steps. coverage is up to 1602kHz. I would like to get up to 1710kHz for the expanded band here down under.
The other feature that the OEM VW radio has and this C300 doesn't is being able to switch the radio on with the keys not in the ignition. The OEM radio times out after 1 hr.
I amuse the power on acc would be hardware?
Im toying in writing a bit of simple code on a external timer to enable me to have a press button on the dash to fire up the Acc line on the radio with 12volt for an hour so the key is not need like the original radio. Some isolation diodes would be need to isolate the voltage not to back feed into the car.
Regards Adrian.
octadox said:
quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:
best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.
some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.
couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.
summary:
if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.
on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.
as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.
if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
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FYI, Ownice C300 firmware and SystemOnChip files exactly the same as AC83XX units. Only difference is MainUI.apk and you can just install that file from another device, it will work (TESTED).
And root guide is here, rooting password is same -in the sbin/forfan file- almost same.
Hi all,
Happy New year
I see this has been asked lots before, but I haven't as yet found a simple easy solution. Has anyone ?
I want to access my sms / email from head unit over bluetooth ideally. Headers/ notifications would be nice too.
I thought about using a bigger device such as a tablet, but would have much the same issues Plus charging, storage etc.
Wont be used when driving but when I pull up and go through them and can respond. So not really interested in apps that read them as they come in.
Head unit is a new px5 erising, mtce running android 8 untouched. Works great as is.
Phone is stock S6, android 7. un-rooted. NO usb port. (can only charge wireless)
Happy to install any apps as needed.
I have tried several apps, such as botifier, btnotifier, carmode, easyconnection, hotspot control, several smart 'device' syncs and havent got any to work. Sounds easy but have a couple issues. I dont always have data on as on payg, as most apps seem to want.
Plus not keen on google apps reporting my every whereabouts so dont have Android Auto, telling google execs what colour pants i'm wearing to sell data to advertisers to hound me..
2nd I dont fancy turning on hotspot and messing around to pair up wifi. with every journey (although I have considered getting a small AP, router for the car for both devices to connect to and thus be on the same local wifi network if that helps.)
I'm aware there are about 15 different protocols for it to work on BT which is a p.i.t.a that I dont know which I have on either device. I dont (need to) play music or do anything else from phone.
So is there an android app yet that installs whats needed and just does the simple job of remotely without fuss or needing several trips round the moon to display / reply to my sms texts on my head unit while phone is in my pocket?
Thank you.