Ownice brings a new radio to the market, the C300
http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car dvd player for universal 2 din OL-6666T_360.html
These are the most known specifications
1. OS: Android 4.4.4
2. CPU: AC8327 Quad core cortex-A7,1.0-1.2GHz (The IC is Specialy developed for Car DVD)
3. Fast Response: RAM 1G + ROM 16G
4. Resolution: 800*480/1024*600 TFT Capacitive Screen
5. Standard Features: Built-in WiFi + DVD + GPS Navi + FM/AM Radio + Bluetooth + Multimedia + USB/SD + AUX
6. Support: DAB+ OBDII + DVR +ipod +3G Dongle + TV(DVB-T2,DVB-T,MPEG4&ISDB-T) + Rear Camera + TMPS + MIRROR
7. Unique UI Design: Translucent Background gives a full-screen viewing
8. 3 sec quick boot
They seem to skip android 5.0, and going to android 6.0 this fall
i dont understand why the C200 had 2 gig of ram, and this new one looks like it has 1 gig. However I do like the looks of it, and the C200 gets pretty good reviews on XDA. So I emailed them about a C300 for my Jeep.
Has anyone ordered one? I'm curious on this unit as I require a cheap unit to go into my truck that will be used when required. So I don't need anything fancy but want something that will work.
I've been in contact with ownice and asked about where to get software updates and was told the unit wouldn't get any... Which is somewhat alarming. Perhaps its a language barrier with the person not understanding what I'm asking... Here's the quoted email.
--- my email to them ---
What's the warranty like if there were to have something go wrong with it (who would I contact)* how often is there firmware updates for the unit and where would I go to get the updates ?
--- response ---
Hi,Dear, All of these questions that you could ask me, *you could add my Skype and whatsapp for contact me any time.
If there are something wrong, I will give you solution or send the component for you replacement.*
Our c300 cannot upgrade the system.*
Thanks*
Best regards*
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quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:
best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.
some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.
couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.
summary:
if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.
on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.
as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.
if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
do you use streaming music, like google play music or spotify, any issues?
CadillacMike said:
do you use streaming music, like google play music or spotify, any issues?
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given data caps on mobile data, that's not something that i was terribly interested in, so i haven't had a chance to try it yet (i have 60gb of music hooked up to it via usb stick, which so far has proved to be plenty). as i understand it, most folks cache stuff on these units ahead of long drives, to avoid pulling data the whole way, but like i said, no experience with it myself.
found another con: internal microphone is garbage (when used via bluetooth) -- it works fine for google voice (although without contact sync, it's not terribly useful), but when making calls, it is waaaaaaaay too low in volume, and changing the gain setting in the settings doesn't help (just distorts the voice).
How's the radio ? Static or clear? Anyone try to root it yet?
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How's the radio ? Static or clear? Anyone try to root it yet?
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radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).
haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.
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radio is crystal-clear, no complaints in that department (except maybe that they could have used more space for the song/artist name, instead of the tiny space they used which involves tons of scrolling text).
haven't tried to root (no time and not enough experience), but if rooting leads to (a) working google contacts and (b) the ability to use google voice to place calls (it currently errors out saying that there is no dialer, rather than handing off to the bluetooth app) then i'm happy to do whatever i can to help.
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you can try this app for your radio from [email protected] http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3496422&d=1444056063 it works flawless on the C200
Flemischguy said:
you can try this app for your radio from [email protected] http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3496422&d=1444056063 it works flawless on the C200
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not sure that this app would work on the c300 -- different hardware in this unit from the c200 -- and not worth trying it (for me), since the stock radio works just fine (except the RDS info, which my old stereo didn't have, so I'm not really missing it).
now, if someone has a bluetooth rewrite that allows interaction between regular android apps and the bluetooth dialer -- i am all ears.
update: tried an external mic to fix the bluetooth mic issue and no dice, bluetooth doesn't seem to even recognize that there is an external mic present. so, can't use the radio to answer phone calls, because people on the other end can't hear you.
so, to recap, the things that don't work:
1. bluetooth phone calls due to issues with microphone
2. google contacts sync
3. OBDII bluetooth connections
things that do work:
1. waze
2. reverse camera
3. radio
4. playing music off USB stick
so, until waze comes out on android auto, i will keep this in the car. as soon as waze comes out on android auto, i will replace this with a mainstream unit that has android auto (like a pioneer NEX series or the new JBL that is coming out soon).
was it worth the $200? Only because i know of no other way to get waze into the car. otherwise, no, not for a second. not due to the cost, but due to having to fight it all the time to work out its issues.
Hello, I buy the C300, but disappointed by this one.
Problem of vehicle integration, I had cut out of the back of the car stereo support (on the vehicle) because the connectors can not pass!
No compatibility (interaction) with Ford convers + !
The SWC (steering wheel control programming) unusable, not a program! only the steering wheel volume + - + and defilement - works!
Can not delete the widget directly to the screen.
GPS works roughly although not change the sound alerts when it works, impossible to put the card day!
impossible to adjust the operating time of touch cutting, the C300 runs about 1 minute without contact.
Really disappointed !!!
CZ68 said:
bonjour, j'ai acheté le C300, mais déçu par celui ci.
Problème d’intégration au véhicule, j'ai du découper l’arrière du support autoradio (sur le véhicule) car les connectiques ne passées pas !
Pas de compatibilité (interaction) avec Ford convers+ !
Le SWC (programmation des commande au volant) inutilisable, impossible a programmer ! seul la commande au volant volume + - et le défilement + - fonctionne !
Impossible de supprimer les widget directement de l’écran.
Vraiment déçu !!![/QUO
Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
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Si vous plait, ici écrit Anglaise, merci.
Hello, sorry no problem
I bought the http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Car dvd player for universal 2 din OL-6666T_360.html Ownice c300 of the week
I 've had yesterday DAB + me inside. Only this does not connected but I can not find an app on the dab + to work . Should I take an extra measure to let him work ?
Problems
I Have brought a c300 ownice Radio it works almost flawless
I Have three problems:
1. Dap+ after a full reset is not clear anymore there are some gabbs in the Sound its like it is buffering or something...
2. Sometimes Random disconect of bleuthoot
3. Still Running on Android 4
Someone knows any solutions?
Greetings,
Mike
Thanks and icon deleting?
HI .
Im, new to this list and a owner of a Ownice C300 for my touareg.
I made my mind up on buying the Ownice after reading quite a few threds on this developers site. The only mystery was the specifications on the AM and FM receiver and how it performs in the real world. The Chinese specs are very vague.
I have been bench testing by Ownice for the past week and getting familiar with its operation.
The receiver on AM is quite good and I can receive stations easily up to 300km aways during the day. This was my biggest concern as I do long country drives. FM is good as well, not sure how its strong signal performance will do.
First thanks for your passwords you gave in the description below, like you said the screen was unusable if web browsing or mapping. :good:
My question is, may be a stupid one.
When you drag a icon or widget onto the home screen, how do you delete it? I cant find any mention of this in the C300 manual.
Is there a script that determines the frequency range of the AM FM receiver? Mine is set to Australia eg 9kHz steps. coverage is up to 1602kHz. I would like to get up to 1710kHz for the expanded band here down under.
The other feature that the OEM VW radio has and this C300 doesn't is being able to switch the radio on with the keys not in the ignition. The OEM radio times out after 1 hr.
I amuse the power on acc would be hardware?
Im toying in writing a bit of simple code on a external timer to enable me to have a press button on the dash to fire up the Acc line on the radio with 12volt for an hour so the key is not need like the original radio. Some isolation diodes would be need to isolate the voltage not to back feed into the car.
Regards Adrian.
octadox said:
quick review of the universal c300 i just installed:
best described as a tinkerer's wetdream/nightmare, with some engrish subtitles. in other words, it's far from perfect, but in some ways it is the best solution available, if you don't mind messing about with it.
some immediate issues:
1. it's 178mm x 100mm. your double-din opening is 173x98. this means you will have to enlarge the opening or shrink the stereo (i suggest enlarging the opening) -- in either case, the installation is not as easy as it would be if this were a standard size.
2. google contacts do not sync (ownice has promised to look into it and fix in the next firmware release, but i wouldn't hold my breath). this means you cannot push the voice button and go: "call wife," since the unit doesn't know who your wife is.
3. google voice works like it should, for the most part, once you work through some kinks -- it will play music you ask it to, using your player of choice and it will navigate to a location, although it uses google maps (not waze) to do so. like siri (it looks things up on the internet and will play music for you, but doesn't do advanced things that you are used to it doing on your phone, like telling to navigate to a friend's house). it also doesn't read the results outloud to you (which is a shame, since the whole reason to use the voice feature is to keep your attention on the road.)
4. bluetooth is crippled, so it will connect to your phone and to *some* ELM327 connectors, but not anything that doesn't accept 0000 for a password.
5. lack of physical buttons -- cool looking and seems like a great idea until you try to use it while driving and realize that you can't feel your way to anything, since it's just a flat touch-screen. i'll likely get used to this, but definitely takes your attention off the road (ignore this if you have steering wheel controls).
6. the main screen's two widgets are not removable (for now).
7. it won't read your SMS messages. I am sure that there's a way to forward them (via something like IFTTT) from the phone to the stereo, but that seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
8. you need your phone to act like a hotspot for waze (and anything else that uses the internet) to work, and it appears that android 5.0+ doesn't allow you to automate turning the hotspot on and off anymore, which is not awesome, since you now have to remember to turn it on when you get in the car and off when you get out.
9. poweramp doesn't work right, because it doesn't provide you with a settings button, so there's no way to customize it.
couple of correctable issues (and notes on what i did to correct them):
1. contrast set way too high to be usable out of the box: enter the service menu through car settings > about car > settings icon > 1260 (password) and change contrast to be about 10-15 or so.
2. volume way too loud, usable range of volume slider is about 1/3 of total slider: enter service menu and set the volume for items that your stereo has to -20; this gives a good usable range for the slider and prevents your wife's eardrums from bursting when she accidentally hits max volume (oops).
3. if you find that you can't watch videos (they just won't load), check the setting that decides whether you are allowed to watch videos while moving -- it should warn you that you can't see the video because it's blocked, but it doesn't.
4. boot logo password is 9999, in case you don't want to see the "OWNICE" on boot.
summary:
if you are looking for something cheap that will work with your car, get a name-brand stereo that has bluetooth connectivity to your phone (and perhaps some sort of onboard nav system, if you care about such things) for about the same money as this and call it a day. sure, it won't have android, you won't be able to surf the web, or play spotify, and won't have waze/google maps, but it also won't give you nearly as many headaches as this unit will.
on the other hand, if you want android functionality (or just the ability to use waze as your nav system in-dash), then you don't really have a better choice. one of the key things for me was that this unit will power up in <3seconds for 48 hours from the last time it was powered up. When "cold" booting, it takes just under 20 seconds to boot from 0 to usable. Most things work exactly as you would expect them to, and they work well. For example, if listening to music, and your nav wants to say something, it will mute the music, say it's thing and return the music. Sounds simple, but if you read enough of these forums, you will see that not all of these units handle this properly.
as you can see from the above, my list of issues is longer than my list of praises, but that's because i don't bother praising things that work the way they are supposed to. overall, without knowing how it will handle extended use or how it will hold up to the heat inside the car, etc, etc, the unit seems good, and was the best option for what i wanted to do. my other options were the nex4200 and the jbl that's coming out in a month or two, since both of those are android auto... but android auto doesn't do waze, which is too bad.
if you do buy this one, i would buy from ownice directly (via aliexpress), a 1024x600 version cost me about $200, shipped for free and arrived 1 week from order date (actually less than a week).
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FYI, Ownice C300 firmware and SystemOnChip files exactly the same as AC83XX units. Only difference is MainUI.apk and you can just install that file from another device, it will work (TESTED).
And root guide is here, rooting password is same -in the sbin/forfan file- almost same.
Related
Hello.
I am planning to buy some bluetooth carkit for Raphael and I want to ask you for your opinions and suggestions.
I want following:
- Build into a car directly-hard kit
- Sound goes to loudspeakers
- Big display to browse phonebook(Outlook),call logs(missed,incoming,outgoing)
- Comfortable control and browsing phonebook(not like wheel on Parrot)
- Phonebook with support for more numbers per contact
- Maybe some control buttons separated from display
- Browsing phonebook should be quick,not slow.
Has anyone some suggestions?
Good Luck
I have researched a fair amount on the subject. Never got too far - you will never find what you are looking for.
Your BEST bet in my opinion is to go for a higher end headunit - i think Pioneer makes a bluetooth capable receiver which has a lot of the functionality you require. I think they were like DEH-700bt and DEH-900bt. When i get some more cash (and these start showing up on the used markets) i'm buying the 900 model myself.
I know it's not enough for what you're looking to do, but if anyone sees this and cares, I got the MotoRokr T505 for like 70 bucks new on amazon, Does bluetooth hands free, stereo audio, fm tranmitting that autoscans for the best channel, has phone and media controls on it, battery lasts forever, audio quality is great, people don't even know I'm on a hands-free, uses your cars existing stereo, I can't say enough good things about it, had it for over 6 months, not a single problem.
Thanks for the tips guys.
However,I don't accept them,because:
- car radio with BT is for me useless,because in my car it is located pretty far from driver(Citroen Evasion),so I cannot comfortably see phbook on the display. Another thing against,it is expensive and for example Alpine I tried was unable to browse contacts.
- MotoRokr has no display,so big disadvantage for me.
I like the BT carkit in our company's Skoda Octavia II,with comfortable browser located right in front of my eyes on the onboard display,controls on steering wheel,sound to speakers,etc. I want something similar to my private Evasion.
Take a look at parrot.com site.
I use THB Bury CC9060 Plus.
It's touch screen or fully (even the deepest settings) voice controlable, works with up to 2 phones and one A2DP connection at the same time and offers great sound quality.
No need to take hands off steering wheel for anything you would like to do.
Sascha
Hey all,
I wanted to use my new OPO (without an extra SIM card) as a permanent slave to my original phone, and as a permanent fixture on my car as a car-puter for my 2005 Accord. I have to say, I am pretty impressed with the phone, and where I've reached now.
Hardware required:
1) OPO (obviously)
2) Main phone (In my case, my Note 3)
3) Car with Bluetooth Head Unit (depending on usage)
4) Cheap 7$ OBD2 Bluetooth interface from eBay
5) Raspberry Pi + RasPiCam (for backup cam)
Software:
1) Torque for getting data from OBD.
2) Navier HUD Free (For some cool HUD Effects for my car )
3) MapFactor Navigator for free Offline Maps and navigation
4) Google Voice + Spare Phone (didnt want to spend on another phone line)
5) Tablet Remote ()
6) Tasker
7) fqrouter [to be discarded and replaced with WiFi Tether router]
8) Tablet Talk
9) RTSP Player
Modules:
1) Wireless backup camera
I used Raspberry Pi with its camera module to use as a backup camera.
The Pi fetches the video and transmits it as a live RTMP stream using nginx web server. I can then see the stream play on my phone.
I use fqrouter to create a hotspot between OPO and RPi to get the live stream without losing tethered wifi connection with my Note 3.
2) Navigation & Car stuff
MapFactor Navigator free uses OpenStreetMaps to get free navigation to your phone. No need of a separate GPS unit.
Torque has the ability to connect to my car's OBD2 interface. It also has a HUD functionality which I thought was cool
Can also use Navier HUD Free for HUD displaying speed and navigation.
3) Communication
Now, this one was a bit tricky. I wanted it to be connected with my phone. Since I had unlimited 4G LTE data from T-mobile, I had to leverage that somehow. I couldn't just use tethering as tethering isn't unlimited (now found a workaround for that too ). So I wanted to use Wifi Tether only for Google Voice texts and rare phone calls.
Communication involves multiple things:
a) Receive Phone and Text
For this, I used a fine but no-longer-supported app called Tablet Talk. In the future, I'll try to develop something for myself. For now, this one is good. I can send/receive msgs that I get on my main phone (connected via bluetooth) from this one. As for phone calls, Tablet Talk gives a nice notification about who is calling, with the contact's photo and name synced from your phone book.
ISSUE: Tablet talk is meant for tablets. So when used in landscape mode, the answer/reject/speaker button goes below the screen. So I created a tasker profile, which says when I get a call notification on tablet talk, disable screen rotation temporarily. Does the trick
Another issue is that the calls are attended from your phone. i.e. call audio comes from your phone. Simple solution, also connected the phone with my car's bluetooth (another hack made from a broken 20$ Sony MW600 bluetooth headset I found on eBay). So I can answer the call from OPO fixed in car, and talk via car bluetooth, and the phone always stays inside.
b) Music & audio
I have my full music collection on my main phone. I don't want to sync and have duplicates. Thank's to a discovery by @darktranquility18, I realized that the OPO can be used as a media sync when using bluetooth. i.e. It acts as a bluetooth speaker for my main phone. Now, the issue I ran into was that I couldn't change tracks or volume using it directly. So I had to use another software: Tablet Remote. Works like a charm
That's all I have for now. Let me know if you can think of any suggestions, additions or ideas. Open to many more tweaks and hacks. After all, the phone says: Never Settle
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
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Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
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Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
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Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
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Gotcha, certainly makes sense. Good luck with your setup. Having run mine for a few weeks now, can't imagine going back to a stock head unit. Waze, Spotify, Pandora, having my full music library, etc. can't be beat.
i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
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i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
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Ha, Thanks
Well, its just the OPO on a phone stand on my dash. Mostly it is the use of various software to make it do what I want.
But I guess I CAN put up pics of HUD and a video about the Raspberry Pi Backup module.
I'll try to make it this week and upload.
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
LarsPT said:
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
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This is what I got from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131033435850?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It was $2 off when I purchased it. So I got for $6.94
The construction is FLIMSY and the covering breaks easily. But it can be easily fixed with super glue or something. I kept mine open as the LEDs inside give a nice glow-at-night effect to my underdash. I'll show that in video that I'll mostly try to make before this weekend.
What year is your Yaris? All cars after 98 year models (i think) need to have OBD2 compulsorily. It'll mostly be near your steering wheel side underdash, on the left near the fuse box.
It's recent, it's the '10 model. I'll look into it when I go back home after work
Cheers!
Pics pics we want pics !
rant said:
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
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So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
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So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
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The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
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The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
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Sorry, didn't mean to dump. It is cool, but expensive for most. I look forward to seeing the pictures.
Apologies for the shaky video. Never done a video before, so was a bit nervous.
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Sorry, I know this post is old but this is the only reference I could find with someone seemingly having used an OPO (OnePlus One - I hope you mean) successfully with an ELM327 OBD2 Bluetooth adapter. I am having connection issues with my OBD2 adapter and was wondering if you had found a way around these issues...
Here's another thread I started describing my OBD2 adapter issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/oneplus-one-cm11-wont-obd2-elm327-t3152703
I have used a couple of OBD2 adapters. The successful one was from OBDlink MX. The hit and mid ones were the cheap ones from China that did not have an auto shut off features.
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Hey Guys,
I just bought a brand new Kenworth W900, and it has android auto (or something mimicing it) built in... A panapacific dea600... the major problem is it super kludge... amongst being terribly locked down, i cannot connect to an ad hoc wifi thru my windows 10 laptop (that is tethered to my S6 with easy tether)... my tablet can connect to the ad hoc no problems, and my stereo can see the network but cannot connect to it for some reason (i REALLY need to update the trucks GPS maps, and have you tried to use a truck stops wifi? (like dial up))... id really just like access to the OS or another launcher so i can add some apps that i need (no not facebook or stuff like that) and perhaps root and rom it....
its running android 4.2.2... and i can get you the entirely too long software version
Its sad really because this could be cutting edge stuff, but someone higher up had to come up with ways to neuter this damn thing... and look i get that there are things i shouldnt have access to while driving, but it DOES have android web browser built in so its not like they dont want us using it...
i dont expect the world as this unit has only been shipping with trucks for a few months... and many of you may not have come across it... but perhaps it shares hardware with another system and panapacific just stole it (it HAS happened many times)
thanks guys and look forward to replies before i finish going insane
Nobody?
DEA600 - SmartDisplay for Automotive Infotainment
Hey,
I just came across your note while search for this product - I was the software architect/tech lead for the supplier company providing the Android port and the Freescale SOM component of the display screen on this product line - although moved on shirtly after the system went to mass production. - it is awesome to see someone here discuss it!
You are very correct on a lot of you assumptions and assessments. it was a very ambitious project that really tried to leverage as much of what Android was capable of at the time it was planned, but tuned to work as a smart display for commercial vehicles.
The display is only a part of a system of components. The display runs a port of Android 4.2.2 - but highly tailored to its environment - pairs with the Delphi radio unit (as a peer, not as an accessory) and is toghtly coupled to the unit in production. as a security measure.
unfortunately for what you are looking for, though much of the upgrade and app installation capabilities have been locked down to prevent side loading or execution of "unauthorized" apps that don't have special keys fro. the OEM or manufacturer. even if installed, the system manager will kill any apps that are launched without keys.
you may be able to get a developer key from the OEM but I don't know how they chose to mange that in the final system.
thanks for the posting, though - it was a small run comparatively for android systems but it was a pretty damn cool system with what we did get working....
I would be happy to discuss more if you want. - with what I can....
- Chris
DEA600
hi there
i have same head unit in my 389 pride and class peterbilt, for the map part, that you can update by connecting it to your phones internet, either wifi hot spot if not then just connect it with bluetooth and use bluetooth tethering of phone and PAN of your DEA600, but main problem in the system is that you cant put a single thing without pulling breaks, and u cant download a single file by any means, it just displays error that unfortunately process.android. stopped or browser has stopped or settings has stopped. if any one figured out how to download anythimg in this little thing. please update
hello there. I have T-680 with DEA600. I had exactly the same problem and ended up taking my truck to a dealer. it turned out to be defected radio. After it was replaced, it would connect to a hotspot no problem ( im using htc 10).
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Hey guys so a friend of mine has the DEA601 in his new truck and drives him nuts that the passenger cannot control things when its going faster than 5km hour (his old Peterbuilt worked fine).
I'm a software eng and would like to find out how to disable the Distracted Driver feature (like you can do in settings on many other Android Auto ROM's like Honda). What are my options here? a) Make a whole new ROM (but how to do that?) b) try to hexedit the existing ROM and find where the 5 km value is and modify it c) add an add-on app somehow to override this limit or d) other???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
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I found out in order for the guages to work I need an $800 module my truck didn't come with. Now my biggest problem is the technology seems to have stagnated. The software on my phone and tablet are no longer very comparable with Android 4.2. I try my iPhone and my Android tablet and neither will play Pandora consistently. I am forced to use Bluetooth which looses sound quality on an already low quality stereo. I really wish Kenworth had spent their R &D on making their trucks compatible with idatalink like most aftermarket stereos use.
At this point I am torn between installing a hideaway marine stereo with a remote display and leaving this POS Pans Pacrapic as a display with nono sound. Or installing a line converter and amp and dealing with this clunky software. I wish someone would make a rom to upgrade this thing.
Looks like the Mfg won this round
Looks like the Mfg won this round
I'm driving one of these trucks also and I keep checking this post but I guess we havent incentivized anyone who cud help yet!
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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This is a 2+ year old thread being g responded to.
What is your point? 2years later and still no solution to the problem. I ran across this thread of people discussing the same problems I'm having with the radio unit. If you got something usefull to add to this discussion then please feel free otherwise you don't need to acknowledge when what was posted that helps me null with my problem.
Anyone here figure anything out?
still nothing
Hello! So I have little tech experience but I am willing to work with someone here to sort this out. Got a 17 w900 that I put a aftermarket double din in and retained smart nav for the gauges. What I did find was the screen (not the radio) gets a input from the wire harness off the ecm to give data to the screen. So I’ll attach a picture of the plug and maybe we can use this plus find it’s female counterpart then get the other end to plug into a maestro box? My Sony doesn’t have maestro. I do have a pioneer that does but can’t justify the cost being the Guinea pig. I’ve already been one of the first to get the tilt column to drop LOW and managed to fit a true 7” double din where the stupid nav was.
So I decided to give one of these a whirl in my wife’s vehicle. All in all, for like $80, I’m pretty pleased. However, I have a few bags that I wanted to see if anyone might be able to help me resolve.
Nag 1 - for whatever reason the FM/AM radio tuner app’s volume is WAY louder than all the other apps that play audio. Spotify, YouTube, etc are all the same volume and are ok. The tuner app though is way to loud and I’ve found no way to adjust it. Any thoughts?
Nag 2 - so we both have iPhones and apparently the WiFi hotspot on the iPhone turns off or something after a period of it being connected to a client. Consequently that means re-enabling every time you get it. That’s annoying and detracts from what I was trying to accomplish with the move to this headunit. Anyone have any suggestions for making that process better?
Nag 3 - internet through the Bluetooth connection would be ideal, since that does connect every time you enter the vehicle. However, it doesn’t appear that that is a option. Just music and phone calls appear to be supported via Bluetooth....any way to alter that?
That’s the main issues I have. If I could get those resolved, I’d be pretty happy with the unit.
The MCU1 is HW8227L-3.3-SWO-1.9
Nag2: This is the way iphones work. There is no getting around it.
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That was kind of what I figured. ?? Thanks.
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
May I recommend 'Magic Earth' navigation, works fine with no internet but no live data of course.
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
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Thanks for a helpful reply. I have already fitted a power injector for the FM antenna which made some difference but I like to listen to radio 4 and there are parts of the country (along the M11, on the A5 in North Wales), where you cannot pick it up on any radio - and of course in Europe where I have just been for a few weeks where I usually don't want the radio on at all. That's why having the nav sound set as a percentage of the existing volume seems a bit odd as it implies you already have some other sound on. Better to have a dedicated channel for it or have the nav mute any other sound.
I'll look at doing all the swiping etc to turn off the radio by closing recent apps although this doesn't seen like a very safe thing to start doing when you drive into a area of poor reception. I was hoping the unit would have a simple press button like in the good old days!
The dongle info is also useful thank you. Xtrons do not make this clear at all. They imply that by plugging it into the socket on the unit you have made a (wired) data connection. If the HU is still only connecting over wifi anyway then I can install the dongle wherever I like in the car so that it gets a good 4G signal, instead of it having to be in the driver footwell at the end of the short USB cable xtrons supply and I can use a dedicated 2A usb adaptor to supply decent power .
I guessed the 'GPS' socket might have nothing to do with GPS. Shame Xtrons couldn't say what it was for instead of just mis-labelling it.
Incidentally. The SIM in the dongle would only ever be used for the navigation to receive traffic updates or bits of map or whatever it needs i.e I don't intend to be surfing the net or downloading Utube videos. Do you have any idea what sort of data requirements this would mean. Would a 250Mb a month sim be enough?
I'll experiment with your suggestions.
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At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I'll look into those thank you. I use maps.me on my phone but couldn't get google maps to work on the HU as it said I was offline. Of course I still need an internet connection to download any of those apps and install them on the HU but I could just park near my house and using the house wifi.
Data plan for using navigation online data depends on the app you use and the amount of mileage per month.
You can use your smartphone first to see what you need in a "normal usage" month and then decide what you need.
If you use any offline map solution, it´s also some sort of usage dependency.
BTW... If you would invest into a higher data plan (2GB), you could use the app Radionator to use Online radio. BBC Radio4 should be in there too. Radionator is the best alternative if you want to listen to one specific radio station. Just needs a stable internet connection, nothing else... and the sound is mostly better than FM.
May be you can use the Navradio+ as alternativ solution for receiving FM radio. Depends on the MCU of your unit. Search for it in MTCD software forum.
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At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
HERE WeGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I would recommend to use HERE WeGo, it served me very well for the years I didn't have mobile internet connection. Also it shows the max allowed speed in most countries, whereas Google Maps doesn't do that.
Sure, Here WeGo is a good choice, even without internet connection.