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Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
ipmanwck said:
Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
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Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
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Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
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It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
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It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
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get photo make with help Note4, then PUMa - Tools - Camera with this photo and have information about module & sensor
It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
bala_gamer said:
It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
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How do you know for sure?
because he saw it on the internet so it must be true
ipmanwck said:
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
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The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
cinnaC2C said:
The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
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Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech!
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
ipmanwck said:
Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech! y
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
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The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
cinnaC2C said:
The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
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Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/01/galaxy-note-4-camera-vibe-z2
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
cyber-junkie said:
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
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do not believe the sites, believe your eyes
Darkangels6sic6 said:
Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
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I thought it was already confirmed to be a Sony IMX240 sensor?
Sammobile is usually on point - can't post links yet, but google "Exclusive: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Camera Features – 16MP, Side Touch, Wide Selfie, and much more." See below for quote.
According to our sources, Samsung is equipping the Galaxy Note 4 with a 16-megapixel Sony IMX240 camera sensor on the back with optical image stabilization (OIS), which is capable of shooting UHD (3840×2160) video at 30FPS. This isn’t the first time Samsung is using the IMX240 camera sensor - Samsung has used the exact same sensor in the Korean Galaxy S5 Broadband LTE-A (SM-G906S/L/K), however it lacked optical image stabilization (OIS)
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Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
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the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
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sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
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Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
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I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
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I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).
I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.
Huawei P9 Leica Dual Camera, 270 percent more light than an iPhone 6S, and 70 percent more light than a Galaxy S7.
Derpling said:
I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.
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Derpling said:
I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.
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sezinlynn said:
Huawei P9 Leica Dual Camera, 270 percent more light than an iPhone 6S, and 70 percent more light than a Galaxy S7.
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Actually there is no contenst, S7 will easily win. The P9 does not have optical image stabilization, for starters. The aperture is F2.2 in the P9, which means that the S7 is one stop better (100% more light entering the sensor).
And the "270% more light" thing is only for the monochrome sensor. It remains to be seen if the software processing will be able to do something really useful with the black and white images.
I actually noticed with last update that sammy added new option in cam app called shape correction.
The more i take photos with s7 the more impressed i become
It's got 12 MP with f/2.2 sensor, I can't see it beating the f/1.7 sensor
There are samples already out. No contest, easy win for s7
http://www.mobilegeeks.de/artikel/huawei-p9-vs-lg-g5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-kameravergleich/
let's see whose eyes are good, or whether it's fated that we all can't have good things.
full size samples
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4546/4978863/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-review/
blackpolicedog said:
full size samples
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4546/4978863/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-review/
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Hard to gauge. The shots are all badly taken, you can see resolution but will not be able to see much real camera performance there.
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Actually there is no contenst, S7 will easily win. The P9 does not have optical image stabilization, for starters. The aperture is F2.2 in the P9, which means that the S7 is one stop better (100% more light entering the sensor).
And the "270% more light" thing is only for the monochrome sensor. It remains to be seen if the software processing will be able to do something really useful with the black and white images.
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Half a stop, so it's 50% more light. Still pretty big difference in favor of the S7 and specially since it also has OIS so definitely a lot better than P9 in darkness . Not impressed with the P9 camera. As an owner of a Mate 8 I find it a little dissapointing.
dannejanne said:
Half a stop, so it's 50% more light. Still pretty big difference in favor of the S7 and specially since it also has OIS so definitely a lot better than P9 in darkness . Not impressed with the P9 camera. As an owner of a Mate 8 I find it a little dissapointing.
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Actually if you want to get really technical, the difference between F1.7 and F2.2 is 0.83 EV, so 83% more light in favor of the S7.
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Actually if you want to get really technical, the difference between F1.7 and F2.2 is 0.83 EV, so 83% more light in favor of the S7.
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But there's 2 cameras so that's already 100% more. The monochrome sensor also has no color filter for 200% more light.
So if one regular f2.2 camera is 1 unit, the P9 can claim to recieve 4 units of light. Compared to the 1.83 units of the s7.
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I thought p9 has ois ? And adjustable aperture
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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The Huawei P30 pro has a great camera and a solid battery but a 1080p display and the software experience isn't that great imo.
The Note 9 is an amazing all around phone that I would consider if you're looking for a bargain but the Note 10 will be available in less than a month.
The S10 plus has everything, the camera, the display the software experience the battery. You just can't go wrong with this phone.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
If I were you , I'll just see and wait for the note 10 to see what it offers better
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
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I agree. The S10+ has a lot of great things about it but the OP specifically listed the camera as being one of his top priorities. Samsung has fallen behind its competitors in that area. If the OP had a Mate 20 he might be disappointed with the Galaxy camera.
The Galaxy S10+ also charges much less quickly than Huawei and Xiaomi phones (the speed difference is huge with wireless charging) which is the other obvious area where Samsung has fallen behind their competitors.
I think Samsung's huge market share made them complacent which is why they haven't kept pace with innovation--the Galaxy phones have only been offering incremental upgrades from year to year for a while now.
Supposedly the S11 Galaxy line is finally going to change that but we have a while to wait on those.
S10+ exynos for the win
jhs39 said:
Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
edit: @ jhs38 like usual, stock camera doesn't have any options for improving picture quality in Auto mode. Just picture format, light conditions and HDR on/off
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rmn.br said:
I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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Last paragraph spot on.
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It was announced today that the Note 10 might feature an AI assisted camera which supports what I was saying earlier about the Samsung camera lagging behind its competitors--both Huawei and Xiaomi added that functionality to the cameras in their flagship phones 2 years ago.
But since Samsung doesn't have to compete against Huawei or Xiaomi in the United States a lot of people here will think Samsung is being innovative.
Finally, Dxomark have a full review about us K30 Pro /Zoom. Yes, Zoom is not exactly the same as K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro, but almost the same (changing telephoto with macro and OIS)
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro-zoom-edition-camera-review/
No bad after all.
I agree that the ultra angle is the weakest point and that in night mode it could be squeezed a little more. Even so, it is surprising that if it were valued only in a still image, it could possibly be in the top 5.
I think that there is still room to earn the odd extra point with future updates, there are defects that are solvable by software, such as smoothing and loss of texture on some occasions, or even slightly improve the automatic parameters for the ultra-wide angle
In the video section the F2 Pro should lose some point due to the lack of OIS, but in its favor it must be said that EIS does an exceptional job
What do you think?
Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
Aremeyr said:
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Ofc it matters who is behind cam but my opinion is that software is most important in cameras. Google is good for that. You can put what camera sensors you want and what photographer to use it but if software is ****, results are ****. And nowadays its very often that normal users are testing the software but i must say that if you clean lens and its sunny day, and you take photo with poco f2 pro, you get very sharp results. but let see what gcam brings in future..
EDIT: stock cam i mean, please take shots and compare it. Gcam is not better? zoom and look details..
Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
Gcam on K30 Ultra?
ok, so K30 Pro Zoom scored high, has OIS, and has the 865 which means it should be able to use Gcam if I can source the Zoom version of the phone? But the K30 Ultra has Mediatek 1000, which means no Gcam right?
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Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
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IMHO, it seems that stock camera is a bit bluffed by the darker zones of the centre, while the Gcam seems more indifferent to that zones.
This can happen also on SLR cams.
Urnyx is now making a crowd funding to get a poco F2 and improve his Gcam.
Theliels said:
Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
elmonch said:
OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
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I love Nightshots, and i have a huge gallery with only night/Sky shots. I assure you that it has nothing to envy to the "premium" range terminals. In fact, for me, in night photography (on this device) there is only one small problem, and that is that the glass that protects the lenses is very prone to causing flares when you have a couple of bright light sources and you place one of them in the center. Luckily it can be easily avoided the most time.
As a note, the vast majority of my night photos are handheld, using only the tripod with 2+ seg exposures, generally if I want to take astronomical, or more artistic photos in quiet environments
This doesn't mean much. The camera optimization is different amongst the Mi series, the Redmi series and the Poco series. It seems like the Redmi team did a good job on optimizing the camera on the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, unlike the Poco team on the Poco F2 Pro.