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Opo or opt

I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.

Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Migdilu said:
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.

Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.

Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.

Gopinath15 said:
I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.

If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider

emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant

I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it

Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.

Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also

demongokul said:
Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .

Tatsuya_ said:
is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.

madferretx said:
As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.

OnePlus 2, How buggy is Oxygen OS

Looking at the OP2
Hardware looks good, but reading the bugs reported in Oxygen OS seems to be higher than the average.
reading about it over at the oneplus is just a toxic pool of pain
Thought I'd ask XDA for a better balanced answer
How good a daily driver is the OP2 in its pure stock OOS 2.2.0 form?

I haven't experienced bugs. At this time they have fixed the important bugs if there were some of them. It's stable now, at least for me.
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Decent as a daily driver
cirian75 said:
Looking at the OP2
Hardware looks good, but reading the bugs reported in Oxygen OS seems to be higher than the average.
reading about it over at the oneplus is just a toxic pool of pain
Thought I'd ask XDA for a better balanced answer
How good a daily driver is the OP2 in its pure stock OOS 2.2.0 form?
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Oxygen os is quite stable. There are no major bugs just small bugs like contact are arranged by last name and there is small stuttering sometimes while using gesture to open notification center. But you are good to go to use it as daily driver.
I think that most of major bugs are due to bad update flash. A clean flash could do it for you.

Critical thinking will do you wonders. Haven't found one bug yet. What I have found loads of are inexperienced users who have flashed something that they should not and then crying on the official forums that it's the phones fault.
tl;dr no bugs

There might be some Bluetooth problems with certain car stereos and headsets. My brother doesn't use Bluetooth but it has been an ongoing issue for some time for a lot of people.
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so stick to the OTA updates and don't mess with it unless you know how to fix it and its good ?

cirian75 said:
so stick to the OTA updates and don't mess with it unless you know how to fix it and its good ?
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My problem with oxygen os isn't with the bugs. There aren't many, besides a really tedious messaging bug that has been confirmed. My problem is with the speed. It really is not fast, and you may not notice that until you try cm/hydrogen os. It's more than stable for a daily driver, it just spits on the hardware of this phone. This is based off my personal experience of course

wtoj34 said:
My problem with oxygen os isn't with the bugs. There aren't many, besides a really tedious messaging bug that has been confirmed. My problem is with the speed. It really is not fast, and you may not notice that until you try cm/hydrogen os. It's more than stable for a daily driver, it just spits on the hardware of this phone. This is based off my personal experience of course
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i agree with this 100%. its not buggy or even a bad OS, its just very slow and not very smooth compared to other roms like CM or vanilla android. i use the OP2 along my 6P and even my older oneplus with COS12 and its just slower.

Can someone please confirm this?

I just upgraded to the OOS3 beta (stock unrooted) and wanted to see how in the hell the phone was feeling so much faster.
Ran Geekbench and AnTuTu and found some refreshing results.
Either OP outdid themselves with this version, or the above apps don't have accurate reference ratings for our device. Thoughts?

Confirmed. OnePlus did very good job on Oxygen OS 3.0, Not even performance increased Fingerprint scanner more faster than ever. :good:

WilliamWing95 said:
Confirmed. OnePlus did very good job on Oxygen OS 3.0, Not even performance increased Fingerprint scanner more faster than ever. :good:
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Beautiful! And yes, all that buzz about the FP scanner being 45% faster has actually been true. I'm still noticing bugs with the Files app and a few other things, but that's beta for you.
Can't say it enough though: they sure took their time with this update...

sinistersands said:
Beautiful! And yes, all that buzz about the FP scanner being 45% faster has actually been true. I'm still noticing bugs with the Files app and a few other things, but that's beta for you.
Can't say it enough though: they sure took their time with this update...
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Yup that's right, We just need to give some times on OnePlus to build and release the most stable OOS rom ever, Just sit back and wait for it .

Do you think MM will ever be released for ZF2 with Intel SOC?

I mean ZF2 with Snapdragon SOC are already on beta for MM. But not a peep about Intel SOC? So what do you think?

There is already Cyanogenmod 13 for zf2, working 99%, without help from Asus.
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MM stock from asus for intel soc (ZE550ML and ZE551ML) will be released this year. this is official news. so just wait

broomer68 said:
There is already Cyanogenmod 13 for zf2, working 99%, without help from Asus.
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Cm13 (and all custom rom) has a big big problem with signal drop, so it's unusable

alboz83 said:
Cm13 (and all custom rom) has a big big problem with signal drop, so it's unusable
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It's actually not a big problem as such, signal loss affects people differently on cm13 like for me i only lose cell signal when i'm on wifi for a long period of time like past an hour non-stop and once i turn wifi off it automaticaly comes back. So it's pretty usable.

alboz83 said:
Cm13 (and all custom rom) has a big big problem with signal drop, so it's unusable
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Beanstalk, Temasek doesnt have signal recovery bug.
Testing all current builds of fresh customs: i use to go to basement lvl of my office building 3x-4x times a day, and i know what im talking about. Those two are good to go, but classic cm nightlies, DU, echoe and early borets had signal drops from time to time...
551ML 4gb 64gb 2 sims active + zenwatch.

Think? No
Hope? Yes
And for those talking about CM, that 1% that does not work includes thing like FM Radio.
If after-market apps don't pick the Intel chipset (which btw, intel announced will drop), it wil never be supported.
A shame really, Intel got a really good thing, better than the tries of NVidia and Mediatek,but I guess it never really took on other manufacturers. Even if they release the source code, it will never be trully complete, they never release all the code and something always gets in the way.
Let's hope for MM as the swan song for the Zenfone 2, stable if possible with security for one more year at least

we already have Asus word. just wait, no need to rush.
Q2 have couple months left

Don't care as long as we have strong dev team. CM 13 all the way.

Will come, just not sure when

Anyone noticed that Intel dropped their mobile phone processor's development recently?
This is the reason why there is no sense for Asus/Intel to further develop Android for Intel SoC.
link: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3063...-tablet-markets-after-cutting-atom-chips.html

alboz83 said:
Cm13 (and all custom rom) has a big big problem with signal drop, so it's unusable
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I've been using Cm13 since early March and have yet to experience that issue. In fact it's been rock solid for me.
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I think it will be released before 6/30 (2016/Q2).
Just wait...

kenbo111 said:
I've been using Cm13 since early March and have yet to experience that issue. In fact it's been rock solid for me.
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I have had a few minor signal issues with CM13. When signal is lost and then returns it sometimes gets confused - reports no signal in battery stats and has mobile standby drain, even though phone and data connection are connected and working. However, generally CM13 has been stable enough for me to use as a daily driver. The reason I returned to stock was battery life - just couldn't get reliable battery life on CM, often down to zero by mid-afternoon.
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Cm13 is super now , trick is not to flash every night but every 3 nights , for better battery .
Not bothered what Asus do now while we have cm to be truthful , Asus stripped or whatever is great on battery but pi553s me off on web experience , hitting a link ..only for the page to shoot up while still loading and opens another unintended link instead ..pah
Cm is more fluent lately

Android 6.0 MM Stock - User Experience

Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
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I'm on the beta and apart from the better app switch window, you're literally missing out on nothing. MM + EMUI 4 is glitchy and slow a lot of the time. It's a pity, really.
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So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...

JT-on said:
Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
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So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...
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Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. I enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over

pank.dhnd said:
Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. A enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over
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Same as what you'd say, Release is consuming a lot of RAM, Battery as well Data Comsumption Monitor is having two stages which is makin me taking two step enrollment to save data.
There i found a Bug/Error but unable to report with the team Dev where on Professional camera - No sooner when i ue Flash Light/Torch and immediately open Pro Camera to capture moments it says Close Torch App - Unable to Open Camera App.

currently running marshmallow (RC VERSION) on L22.
there are a lot of changes
1.the notification icons are now colored
2.recent apps are better now
3.audio output via 3.5mm jack has improved.
3.view modes is introduced(similar to dpi changing)
4.incoming call ui is full screen.
5.revamped settings,phone,messaging(white color with dark notification icons)
and all other marshmallow goodies like permission manger,detailed app info etc
on the bad side...
ui buggy and consumes hell lot of ram.
and lags while mutitasking.
hope all this gets improved in the stable release

How is battery?

Demian3112 said:
How is battery?
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Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.

pank.dhnd said:
Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.
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Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?

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Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?
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Looks like EMUI, along with the bug causing excessive RAM consumption.
But with latest build, apps are loading quite faster than earlier, I am not sure which one did you try.

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Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
@pank.dhd
i'm currently on KIW-L22C675B130 this is clean RAM swallower leaves back only 600Mb is this what build are you on ?

kartrikpal said:
Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
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So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?

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So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?
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Not that much as you expect, cause this Build of EMUI where it shows up more battery heating issues when Data Background left on nuit this was not issue on EMUI 3.1