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Camera Comparison: HTC One X vs. Galaxy S III

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html

Arcadia310 said:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)

The ONE X is the winner hands down! Can I please have a phone with the design, camera and screen of the ONE X and the rest of the specs from the GS3?

ph00ny said:
I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast

Damit. HTC One X has much better photos. I guess I will wait no more. Bye bye good old sgs2. I guess HTC is new king!

Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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Imho the wider aperture of the HOX is really paying off.

Let the straw grasping begin.....
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The One X is marketed as having the best camera hardware. The SGS3 is marketed as an all around device.
If u want good photos, go One X. For everything else SGS3

Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?

ph00ny said:
They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
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I'm not sure! But google gave me this:
HTC’s ImageChip is responsible for most of the things that would traditionally be done on the SoC ISP. 3A (Autofocus, Auto white balance, and Autoexposure), lens correction (geometric and chromatic correction), noise reduction, best shot selection, continuous auto focus, controlling gains on the CMOS sensor, LED flash level decision, region of interest identification (augmented with face detection) and so on. This is all stuff you can verify yourself by taking apart some of the ISP related files - curiously enough internally ImageChip is actually referred to as “rawchip.” This is also the hardware responsible for enabling HTC’s extremely fast image continuous capture and frame grabbing during video capture (HTC Video Pic). It’s somewhat analogous to what Google and TI did with the OMAP4460 on the Galaxy Nexus, except discrete and with a much more ambitious focus.
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5

There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!

qwerty12601 said:
There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
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True..The photos looks worse than SGS2. Also EXIF data missing.
Here's another site where you will get some photo comparison between SGS2 and SGS3 at full resolution and EXIF data.
http://android.com.pl/artykuly/arty...ksele-test-aparatu-samsunga-galaxy-s-iii.html

Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php

Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8

Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?

Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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Wel phonearena thinks the same.Its legit since they provided proof.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...alaxy-S-II-vs-Nexus-vs-N8-vs-iPhone-4S_id3006
Going by them its even worse then the SGS2.

Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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May be something is wrong with GSMARENA? Have a look at this test
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_vs_htc_titan_2-review-755p3.php
they claim that Lumia 900 takes better pics than HTC Titan II, whereas even their own samples show otherwise. I tried to post a comment on this there, it never appeared due to their censorship...

I really doubt that the photos appearing on android central are legit. The phone hasnt even gone out for reviews and this guy has it in his pocket on the streets and shoots randomly? rofl
The polish site's photos look way better.

rd_nest said:
HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
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So you disagree with what you said in your 'comprehensive comparison'? If it's so comprehensive, you should include reviews from more than one source, instead of the most critical one you can find

Bull**** I call, not taken with a S3. Samsung murder HTC. Always have, always will. And I'm a One x owner.
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Camera Blurry

Hey all, received my Note 4 today and the camera quality isnt great, the pictures look blurry even when keeping the camera perfect still. I have taken the plastic film of the lens. Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem

Can you upload an example? Does this happen in low light, outdoors or both?

They were all taken indoors, some with light from room light and sun light through window and others just with a room light (on ceiling). Obviously one with a flash (flash was on auto for all of them but was only used on one after changing iso and white balance). They all just seem a bit grainy and blurry... or is it just me, ill try get some outside tomorrow

Indoor shots will look worse because the ISO will be higher and there's more chance of blurriness with a slow shutter.
Also make sure that you take a photo soon after a focus lock. When I'm indoors,I tend to use touch to shoot and touch on the part of the image I want the camera to focus on.
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indoor the camera sucks. the only mini fix i have found is to take iso off auto and put it on 100 for indoor shots.

Ill use the touch to take pic and try the iso at 100, i dont understand cameras lol

Also i read somewhere to put the metering mode on matrix, its comes on centre weighted so should i leave it on that?

The Note 4 camera isn't very good. For perfectly still shots it's not so bad but any movement at all and the pictures turn into a blur fest. There is something wrong with the software on the phone, there is lag in places there should not be. The note 3 out performs the 4 by a large margin. I think this lag is the reason the camera cannot handle movement. I have tested several Note 4's. Some from TMO and some from Verizon (mine is Verizon) and it affects all the ones I tested except for the demo model I tried at Target. For some reason that one blurred much less and was much quicker when snapping pictures.
I use my camera a lot, this will probably be a deal breaker for me. I was hoping to see a good rom that would fix the lag issues and hopefully the camera problems with it.

Couldnt it be fixed in a firmware update? I have also noticed it to be a bit sluggish in places.
Theres also a hair inside the camera, underneath the glass but luckily its not over the lens,theres a hair inside the heart rate sensor bit as well. So dont know if that will affect anything

Schwuar said:
Couldnt it be fixed in a firmware update? I have also noticed it to be a bit sluggish in places.
Theres also a hair inside the camera, underneath the glass but luckily its not over the lens,theres a hair inside the heart rate sensor bit as well. So dont know if that will affect anything
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That right there would be the ultimate deal breaker for me. Any hair, human or otherwise, in my phone is an automatic return or warranty repair. I can handle some non-uniformity of the screen and stuff like that, but hair? Ick.
I've noticed that the indoor camera sucks pretty bad. Everything's a bit yellowish. Images can be adjusted a bit with the included software, but still not great. Outdoor photos are not so bad. But considering how hyped the camera was on this phone, it's a major letdown.

I think the camera is great considering it's a phone and not a digital camera (people seem to forget that sometimes) Almost all Android camera's perform bad in low light because of shuttertime limitations in de Android camera API (it simply does not provide long opening times) . Not much any Android smartphone manufacturer can do about that. Also if you're using flash indoors it's a LED not Xenon flash. Even the cheapest digital camera is using a real flash and outperforms a LED flash device.
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Seems it will get much better possibilities in Android L
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3

marleyb said:
I think the camera is great considering it's a phone and not a digital camera (people seem to forget that sometimes) Almost all Android camera's perform bad in low light because of shutertime limitations in de Android camera API (it simply does not provide long opening times) . Not much any Android smartphone manufacturer can do about that. Also if you're using flash indoors it's a LED not Xenon flash. Even the cheapest digital camera is using a real flash and outperforms a LED flash device.
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All true. They just need to stop hyping these cameras as digital camera replacements and all that. It sets unrealistic expectations.

marleyb said:
I think the camera is great considering it's a phone and not a digital camera (people seem to forget that sometimes) Almost all Android camera's perform bad in low light because of shuttertime limitations in de Android camera API (it simply does not provide long opening times) . Not much any Android smartphone manufacturer can do about that. Also if you're using flash indoors it's a LED not Xenon flash. Even the cheapest digital camera is using a real flash and outperforms a LED flash device.
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Seems it will get much better possibilities in Android L
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3
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This camera is worse than what it should be. I hate to see apologists come in and make light of something that is obviously very wrong with the note 4.

TIGGAH said:
This camera is worse than what it should be. I hate to see apologists come in and make light of something that is obviously very wrong with the note 4.
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And your information is based on what? It's no apologize that Android camera API is limited, it's a fact. What you don't understand about that? In other words you can put a professional CCD chip in a Android phone and it can only profit to certain amount of it because of OS limitations to access the hardware. Lucky the Google developers have seen the light and in Android L there will be improvement.

Hell no! Ur camera is ok! Its just ur eyes
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marleyb said:
And your information is based on what? It's no apologize that Android camera API is limited, it's a fact. What you don't understand about that? In other words you can put a professional CCD chip in a Android phone and it can only profit to certain amount of it because of OS limitations to access the hardware. Lucky the Google developers have seen the light and in Android L there will be improvement.
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I have very realistic expectations of what the camera should/can do and it doesn't do it. Also the in general lag is not right for the processor this thing has.
Like I said the note 3 has it over the 4 performance wise.
I'm hoping it's just simple software fix and things will be in an acceptable state.

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I have very realistic expectations of what the camera should/can do and it doesn't do it.
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That's your expectation, I can't argue with that. I do know for sure there is no Android Smartphone on the market, which camera performs better then a cheap 60 bucks digital camera . Which is logical because of OS limitations I mentioned.
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Also the in general lag is not right for the processor this thing has.
Like I said the note 3 has it over the 4 performance wise.
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The lag (if there is any) is mainly caused by TW AFAIK . I can tell you from first hand that the Note 3 does not perform better then the Note 4 as they are laying both in front of me now in my desk. Also you have take in account, that the Note 3 is longer on the market and most bugs (if any) are tackled with software updates, while the Note 4 is just 4 weeks on sale.
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I'm hoping it's just simple software fix and things will be in an acceptable state.
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You're disappointed in your new phone because of your own expectations, if you can't live with it ,trade it in against? Honestly I wouldn't know which phone to choose then myself.

Thanks for this thread. Its convinced me to stick with my note 3 after all. I've been waiting for an honest discussion on medium/low light shots indoors with the note 4.
Funny how no review sites pick up on this issue. Hopefully lollipop will make my note 3 take better shots anyway.
To me there is no good reason now to get a Note 4, especially with lag reports.
A n6 is maybe still a consideration having dual speakers, which is now the only significant upgrade to me. That or pass on upgrading this year.

IMO the lag on the note 4 is no worse than that on any other android phone I've had (I'm on the third plus three different tablet models) and I don't think it's all that bad.
Drop by your local store and give it a try for yourself though from what I've read, there's no compelling reason to upgrade from a note 3.

skibadee said:
Thanks for this thread. Its convinced me to stick with my note 3 after all. I've been waiting for an honest discussion on medium/low light shots indoors with the note 4.
Funny how no review sites pick up on this issue. Hopefully lollipop will make my note 3 take better shots anyway.
To me there is no good reason now to get a Note 4, especially with lag reports.
A n6 is maybe still a consideration having dual speakers, which is now the only significant upgrade to me. That or pass on upgrading this year.
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Some reports did compare..... and note 4 outperforms note 3 buy a huge margin.
1. Not all cameras have ois, not even the note 3. Note 4 has it and that allows for relatively long shutter speeds like 1/8s (I've seen note 4 do 1/4 once but that's rare). That's a huge upgrade from note 3.
2 . The note 4 uses sony's IMX 240 sensor which is 1/2.6 inch size. The note 3? And older generation sensor is of a smaller 1/3.06 size. Now. Note 3 is 13MP and note 4 is 16MP. So individual pixel size of both cameras is of the same 1.12 um size. However it's a known quantity that IMX 240 's has better iso performance than I'm 135. Thus note 4 should have better low light shots.
3.its been known that the note 3 takes bad low light shots due lack of ois and the old IMX135 sensor.
4. Almost all galaxy series engage in some kind of "image stacking" software to reduce noise in low light shots. Aka night mode. This is probably low light shots EXIF data is eroded .
As for the lag. What lag ? Jerkiness in viewfinder? Lag in auto focus?
From phonearena
" Outdoors at night, the Galaxy Note 4 soaks in quite a bit more light than the Galaxy Note 3, which results in more visible illuminated details at the expense of overexposure. Photos taken by the Galaxy Note 3 look decidedly darker and noisier in comparison. They are also much softer, while the Galaxy Note 4 retains fairly sharp detail. Low-light photography has seen a big improvement in the new phablet, and by dialling down the exposure setting a notch, you will emerge with more usable night photos than before. "
From Engadget
"But low-light performance is what impressed me the most about the Note 4. While ISOCELL helped improve the GS5 over the Note 3, it still wasn't very good. Optical image stabilization has made a tremendous difference here; objects that barely show up at all on other Samsung cameras can be easily seen on the Note 4. In fairness, the images still don't look as natural here as they do on the iPhone 6 Plus, but this is by far the best nighttime imaging performance I've seen on a Samsung phone."
If your note 3 does better low light shots than note 4. Your phone is probably faulty or you picked the wrong settings for the camera.
It's funny how so many people here expect unrealistic results from this camera. Is this camera better than a PnS camera? Nope.
This this camera worse? Not really.
If you're talking about junk market for PNS cameras. They use a 1/2.3 inch sensor which is not all much bigger than note 4.
A lot of them don't have OIS or Sony's newer image sensors ( Sony's sensors are widely used in many brands).Note 4's image quality is probably better
If you're talking about the mid segment. They use approx a 1/1.7 inch sensor which can probably do a little better low light shots. But they are not really cheap anymore. Eg canon s120. Olympus xz2 etc...
Note 4 loses out a bit here. But that's cause these cameras are meant to be an upgrade from smartphone cameras
If you're talking about about the premium segment. Eg canon gx7 gx1 Sony rx100. Most of them have 1 inch sensors which boast relative great low light performance.
(They still suck compared to mirrorless or dslrs though). However they are probably as expensive as your note 4 or even more.

Camera in low light sucks

This camera is just so bad in low light. Any fixes? I upgraded from a M8 but damn the camera is so far behind.

Bad how? I think it's good, if you hold it steady. It doesn't have OIS which is a shame, but the sensor seems particularly good and it has a wide aperture lens.

OpTune said:
This camera is just so bad in low light. Any fixes? I upgraded from a M8 but damn the camera is so far behind.
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Every review mentioned low light performance as one of the only 'Cons.'

OpTune said:
This camera is just so bad in low light. Any fixes? I upgraded from a M8 but damn the camera is so far behind.
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Yes, there is a fix.
Turn lights on, or pick a well lit scenario.
Jokes aside, it's just how this camera is. The sensor is bad in low light situations, as I guess it enjoys turning the ISO way high, and while a lower ISO would probably give you better pics, it would turn out blurred because the sensor is not mechanically stabilized.

It's not too bad, but shooting in auto mode tends to bump up the iso, which results in a noisy photo. I usually switch to manual mode, keep the iso around 400 and adjust shutter time according to the situation. It's maximum 1/3 of a second, so you shouldn't have too much trouble holding it still for that long.
Photos come out more detailed and sharper that way. Much better than in auto mode.

Also coming from the m8.. camera quality and detail really suck in comparison. Especially detail.
Considering this is the same camera as the Galaxy s7... Motorola could have done a lot more with the firmware.
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Ok, now I agree...
I'm actually very upset at how bad the camera sucks, it's quite upsetting. After reading about what sensor it has, it's actually quite shocking how really bad this phone's camera is.
I was getting better pictures on my Oneplus One that was over three years old when the Moto G5 Plus came out, there simply is no reasonable excuse for performance this poor.
I think I'll want to never buy another Moto/Lenovo product again, unless they do something to remedy this situation.

critofur said:
I'm actually very upset at how bad the camera sucks, it's quite upsetting. After reading about what sensor it has, it's actually quite shocking how really bad this phone's camera is.
I was getting better pictures on my Oneplus One that was over three years old when the Moto G5 Plus came out, there simply is no reasonable excuse for performance this poor.
I think I'll want to never buy another Moto/Lenovo product again, unless they do something to remedy this situation.
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If you root your phone and enable camera 2 api you will see drastic improvement.. But currently if you root you will loose access of Stock OTA..
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critofur said:
I think I'll want to never buy another Moto/Lenovo product again, unless they do something to remedy this situation.
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They wont, you have a mid range phone that is only going to get one major update, lets be honest if you wanted better you should have bought another flagship.
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This camera is just so bad in low light. Any fixes? I upgraded from a M8 but damn the camera is so far behind.
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The M8 had a sensor with large pixels and a low pixel count specifically to perform better in low light.

It's a shame that no one buys products and reviews them for the community, so they can make an informed decision on the pros and cons of a particular product before spending a bunch of money on them...

Well, my experience has been totally opposite, this thing has probably the best low light camera along with top dogs like s7/8 u11, pixel.
although it requires moded libs for it.

My experience is that the low light on mine is comparable to my m8 the color is poor but after color correction they come out decent.

kraatus90 said:
Well, my experience has been totally opposite, this thing has probably the best low light camera along with top dogs like s7/8 u11, pixel.
although it requires moded libs for it.
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You're joking, right? Swapping in hacked libs that make your phone take crappy 2MP photos in exchange for "software enhanced" photos is not putting it on par with the S6/7 lol

mikeyinid said:
You're joking, right? Swapping in hacked libs that make your phone take crappy 2MP photos in exchange for "software enhanced" photos is not putting it on par with the S6/7 lol
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No i'm not talking about 2mp photos but full 12mp.
Ofc it's not going to give you 100% same results cuz there are still some hardware is lacking like OIS. but you haven't paid 100% same price either.
so you gotta consider that too .

I think it's something to do with the image processing. The Snapdragon 625 has pretty decent low light image processing but I don't think it's as good compared to something like the sd 820, 821 or even 835.

FIRST OnePlus 5T camera review by heise.de

https://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/OnePlus-5T-Keine-Zoom-Kamera-mehr-3887487.html
Heise.de is one very serious german tech site and they say that since other sites already broke the NDA they dont feel obliged to hold information back.
To make it short: camera does not get better, low light performance gets even worse.
Long version: The camera setup (still WITHOUT OIS!) will be 16+20 mp again BUT the 20 mp sensor this time won't work as telephoto lens. Also aperture changes from f/2.6 to also f/1.7 like the 16 mp main snapper. Pixel size of the 20 mp sensor stays at 1.0 um. This sensor will, despite its crazily small pixel size, automatically work as low light shooter when light levels drop below 3.5 lux, making pictures look even worse than with the 16 mp sensor.
The Software does NOT use both sensors to combine the picture information like it is the case for other phones. Thus, picture quality does not seem to improve compared to the OP 5.
My comment: This really doesnt seem to make any sense. Why not put in a sensor with bigger pixels if you want a lowlight specific unit? Why take one with even smaller pixels? Wtf!? Did they have too many of those crappy 20mp sensor left over? Or why not at least use both sensors to combine the two die pics? Or why not just use the fabulous sensor that the s8/pixel2 uses and put an OIS in it? This is so stupid oneplus, i just dont get it..
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?

This is kinda disappointing. I was kinda missing my OnePlus 5 going to the pixel 2xl because I really loved the feel and everything on the o5. I was also thinking I should have waited on the 5t and hope they made some small improvements to the camera. This seems like a bit if a downgrade. Battery life will still be really good but slightly worse. I don't see why they couldn't have fitted in a slightly larger battery

Finally get to review it
Finally got my new glasses and can check all of the new great features With these phones. It has been a while since I bought a smart phoneBut the one plus is something that I there are just way too expensive.

I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.

ps000000 said:
I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
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I think it will be possible. Since the changes are similar like 3 and 3t. Lets see

yeah, for me the missing ois is a deal breaker. I planned to upgrade from my op3t but now i will keep it. Hopefully they will learn from it and add a camera with ois for the 6

GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.

Maybe anybody has a acutal review of the camera of the Oppo R11s?
It should have the same camera configuration and software "magic".
Results should be an indication for the possible camera performance of the OP5T.
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GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
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Interesting. GSMarena comments on the lowlight pictures:
"We also went out for some night shots around the usual locations. We won't be passing any verdicts just yet, but the results look promising."

When they said the second camera would have f1.7 aperture (without probably mentioning the pixel size) I thought they would do something special to combine the result of both cameras and create nice pictures. I didn't expect that they only would use one of them....
OnePlus clearly doesn't know much about software photography, but they know a lot about marketing...

Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Seriously brah?

Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
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Well, the screen says 6.0 VS 5.5 But it's taller but thinner side to side. The total screen area should be the same or very close. I doubt enough to affect battery in any significant way. It's also a newer panel, so possibly more efficient than the old 5.5 which was a carryover from the previous OP.

The screen is not narrower but a lot longer so the real estate is quite bigger.
Its 136x68mm vs 122x68mm.

A few sites have mentioned the camera is a bit lackluster, but until we can get a good comparison between the 5 and 5T I'm not sure how to take these comments.
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Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.

Martin.077 said:
Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
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i feel so too, on the op5 the difference is huge in low light conditions with the hdr+

Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks

Lasersdude said:
Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
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And the microdots. It was too much of a hack for something I need to be reliable at least IMO.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there

FridrufHau said:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there
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It is still producing oil paintings in daylight though.
Mind boggling that this is still not fixed! The sensor is capable to produce better photos but the processing...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/op5T-2.jpg
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!

AcmE85 said:
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
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Ok so moving is never sharp, although with other camera apps?

Camera on this phone is absolute garbage

S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?

harisyks said:
S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?
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Can't agree more! This phone camera is useless!!! Literally! Even with the 64 MPx the photos are not up to the level they have to be. I had Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - both phones are hundreds of times better than this one. Can't believe that i spend money to buy it. Even that I watched a lot of reviews before buying it. Starting to thing that pretty much all the reviews are paid by Samsung. My last Samsung was S7 and back then I promised myself not to go back with the brand again. I deeply regret that now and reconfirm that I was right not to choose Samsung again.

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I have the snapdragon and my camera is really nice. Reason why I got the s20+. Coming from an op7pro
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Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.

avid_droid said:
I have the snapdragon and my camera is really nice. Reason why I got the s20+. Coming from an op7pro
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After sometimes testing the s20+
- Overexposed: most time i have HDR activated, why i haven't problems with that
- Saturated images: the default display of the screen is already set to "vivid", on my pc they seem better.
- Oversharpened, right..
I would have preferred to have more manual control without having to go through the raw pro mode:
- Rendered slightly grainy rather than too smooth, oil-painted
- Manual control of jpeg compression, better quality image files
‐ Sharpness adjusted according to the subject photographed: more sharpness for a landscape, less for a portrait
- Have the ability to use the raw format for the ultra wide angle lens
Sorry for my english

I have the Snapdragon. Only problem I have really noticed is I have a hard time getting the phone to focus on things up close. Like I tried to take a picture of the front and back of an insurance card thx other day while it was laying on the counter, and the camera just couldn't figure it out. I had to close the camera a couple times and come back in before it focused.

At the lowest sensitivity, at 40 iso, the rendering is without texture, it's too smooth!

kirilorius said:
Can't agree more! This phone camera is useless!!! Literally! Even with the 64 MPx the photos are not up to the level they have to be. I had Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - both phones are hundreds of times better than this one. Can't believe that i spend money to buy it. Even that I watched a lot of reviews before buying it. Starting to thing that pretty much all the reviews are paid by Samsung. My last Samsung was S7 and back then I promised myself not to go back with the brand again. I deeply regret that now and reconfirm that I was right not to choose Samsung again.
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Simply not true. I have tested the Mi Note 10 vs the [email protected] 64MP and it got destroyed, even with GCAM.
Did you turned off bixby optimizer?
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Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.
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No its not, its actually better.

Gray44 said:
Yes, I compared the snapdragon and exynos versions and in almost all cases you can clearly see the difference.
The exynos version is really inferior.
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Its the opposite, anandtech review says exynos variant has an upper hand compared to snapdragons this year.

anandtech must have been drinking then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU

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anandtech must have been drinking then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU
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So you pick youtube video with old firmware, of semi pro reviewer, vs the best on the planet? yeah, no.

Oh, wow. Why are all these folks having these issues? I haven't noticed anything wrong yet.

roaduardo said:
Oh, wow. Why are all these folks having these issues? I haven't noticed anything wrong yet.
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These are not "issues", they only compare it with the snapdragon and seeing from the reviews, it's a lot (15%-20%)better.
I would not go that far to call the exynos camera ****, but the snapdragon-version does look better.
There's even a petition. https://www.change.org/p/samsung-stop-selling-us-inferior-exynos-phones

harisyks said:
S20+ 4G Exynos variant.
All I see are oversharpened, overexposed, oversaturated, messy photos.
I am coming from a Pixel 2, granted, but my God this phone is 3 generations newer. I am basically forced to use the 64 MP mode in order to get a decent photo. Night mode is pretty much useless as well.
How do you find the photos and which phone are you coming from?
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Post some comparisons of your pixel2 and s20 so we can compare these "garbage" photos.

Snapdragon S20+ here. The camera is not "absolute garbage". It's not Pixel quality, but it's better than 90% of everything else.

I always find these threads hillarious
If you don't like it get something else it's no harm done is it..
I've really got a point with smartphones where what someone likes isn't what someone else does.

dazed1 said:
Simply not true. I have tested the Mi Note 10 vs the [email protected] 64MP and it got destroyed, even with GCAM.
Did you turned off bixby optimizer?
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And because you say so, how this should change my opinion? You are trying to convince me that your opinion is more valuable and correct than mine... Wrong approach buddy. Here we are expressing our POV.

kirilorius said:
And because you say so, how this should change my opinion? You are trying to convince me that your opinion is more valuable and correct than mine... Wrong approach buddy. Here we are expressing our POV.
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You got PM.

Being in lockdown really does not show the S20+ in it's best light. I have been taken fewer pictures most have have been in medium to low light and of my kids or cats and have been really disappointing. Even the slightest bit of movement results in a soft or blurry image. I switched back to my 4 XL last Friday (So glad I never sold it!) and the difference is night and day.
Such a shame as I really really like the S20+ as a device, I just cannot trust the camera right now.

My S20 camera is great and provide awesome photos, you must have missed something somewhere (in good lightning, in low light.. it's... yeah, no.)

hell i don't even know how to use the 64mp camera lol