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ZGPAX Smart Watch

I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/

adonleice said:
I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/
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I'm actually going to purchase one here shortly.... curious to see if it can run 3rd party launchers well with smaller homescreen grids. They need to create a seperate thread for this !

hi you can do a review thanks

looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces

adonleice said:
hi you can do a review thanks
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JarlSX said:
looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces
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Just got it in... trying to root and all that.. but it's AWESOME! 100% Cool as hell. trying to find a comptible launcher and such.
***EDIT UPDATE*** so ADW i have working VERY smooth... eats up a little more memory though so loooking around for launcherpro and other small ram users
***EDIT UPDATE 2 **** have rooted the device using Framaroot... superuser works... already using root tools great

hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks

adonleice said:
hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks
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get it from eCrater.com from Tech Direct i believe it's called... it will be $177 total (including shipping) but i got mine in 3 days.... I ordered Thursday of last week Very good seller
I have been emailing manufacturer's because they are apparently working on software to use with the device to pair to the phones. There are no current apps that utilize call handling from Phone to Watch so the device is more of a standalone device for now. Plays videos, good camera, touch functionality is good, it got a little bit hot while i was runing ADW launcher so i uninstalled that... stock launcher runs fine. Charges fast - FM radio feature is pretty damn cool however you have to use stock headphone it comes with as antenna, they plug in via micro usb. Overall great build quality... Looks like an HTC One LOL

Looks good
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hi how many hours work the battery thanks

adonleice said:
hi how many hours work the battery thanks
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In the video, the person said that the battery will last 1 and 1/2 days. (Not a China dude but I still understand their Singlish)
Btw the battery life is probably the same for other similar smart watches unless they have battery tweaks like the Qualcomm toq and the pebble smart watch which reduces or fully disables touchscreen and colour

Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.

If you guys are interested, i did a quick review of the watch i will upload to youtube tonight and make new thread with video

BigBison420 said:
Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.
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Thinking of buying this at Chinavasion for £92, Is it worth it and did you manage to do a review, Many thanks

Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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BigBison420 said:
Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone

Short review
I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.

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I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.
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It looks like a nice device I'm torn between buying this watch or just waiting around for the kickstart project Neptune Pine. Which seems to be a much more polished product

I'm also thinking about getting this or the neptune but the Pine looks so big it will make my already small wrists tiny!
I like the idea of the Pine but think I might go for the ZGPAX....

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What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone
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The thing is that its recognized by bluetooth as a phone so there is file transfer capability but not call handling or notification handling until the manufacturer releases an app to provide support for this... I would advise anyone who purchases to try and contact the manufacturer and get this info. Ive been looking a week now for an app in the store but have found nothing.
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hi bigbison
wait news thanks

I don't know what to think about this Nexus.

I have had almost every Motorola Droid since the Original. I was so excited when they announced Motorola was getting this years Nexus. Last week when my Droid Turbo's glass broke again I was givinn the opportunity to have the Nexus. I jumped at it.. Now I'm thinking I made a mistake.. I actually miss all of moto's skin or Moto Blur . This naked android is a nightmare ! First off my Calendar no longer has a search feature( if it does I can't find it. Texting someone who've you've recently call is nearly impossible unless I enter the number manually, I'm forced to use the google camera and google photos. All these years I was lednto believe that the manufacturers skins were bad .. I'm thinking they aren't so bad after all...I'm hopping I can find some exposed mods to help me here I'm having a terrible time making the transition from my Droids to Vanilla android.

They each (AOSP vs manufacturer's skins) have their advantages. For me, I was sick of being many months behind on Android versions.
You'll be able to find lots of tweaks to help. You might also try Benzo or Chroma ROMs.

And I am someone that every non nexus I have had I put aosp on as soon as I could love me some vanilla
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tombaldwin6 said:
I have had almost every Motorola Droid since the Original. I was so excited when they announced Motorola was getting this years Nexus. Last week when my Droid Turbo's glass broke again I was givinn the opportunity to have the Nexus. I jumped at it.. Now I'm thinking I made a mistake.. I actually miss all of moto's skin or Moto Blur . This naked android is a nightmare ! First off my Calendar no longer has a search feature( if it does I can't find it. Texting someone who've you've recently call is nearly impossible unless I enter the number manually, I'm forced to use the google camera and google photos. All these years I was lednto believe that the manufacturers skins were bad .. I'm thinking they aren't so bad after all...I'm hopping I can find some exposed mods to help me here I'm having a terrible time making the transition from my Droids to Vanilla android.
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Search in Calendar is right in the top level menu, just above the first separator (Schedule...Day...3 Day...Week...Month....Search). Assuming you mean Google Calendar, which is stock.
Click on the contact image to bring up the contact, and the text icon is on the right. Click on the number to bring up a redial menu. Its not labeled or anything, but once you know its super easy.
Why are you forced to use Google's camera? It sucks. I use Snap Camera. Google photos sucks, too. Actually, all galleries suck compared to QuickPic. And I use SugarSync for backup because it copies the photos to a specific directory on my main PC.
And other than maybe the dialer, I used these same apps when I ran a TW ROM on my old S4. The more open API standards of Android generally allow you to use best in class apps no matter what OEM skin is in place. Also...dialers can be replaced, too. I just don't use them enough to care much.

tombaldwin6 said:
I have had almost every Motorola Droid since the Original. I was so excited when they announced Motorola was getting this years Nexus. Last week when my Droid Turbo's glass broke again I was givinn the opportunity to have the Nexus. I jumped at it.. Now I'm thinking I made a mistake.. I actually miss all of moto's skin or Moto Blur . This naked android is a nightmare ! First off my Calendar no longer has a search feature( if it does I can't find it. Texting someone who've you've recently call is nearly impossible unless I enter the number manually, I'm forced to use the google camera and google photos. All these years I was lednto believe that the manufacturers skins were bad .. I'm thinking they aren't so bad after all...I'm hopping I can find some exposed mods to help me here I'm having a terrible time making the transition from my Droids to Vanilla android.
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You aren't actually experiencing problems, you're still in the learning phase. Once you have it figured out, you'll be good to go.
I actually like the Droid Turbo immensely. My issue with it was pretty much that it doesn't work on my carrier's network (UMTS/AWS). The international version "Moto Maxx" was very appealing, but hard to get your hands on and really not all that much support.
** I favor, slightly, the smaller screen + bigger battery.
The calendar search has been explained.
Text to a caller is easy; In your dialer RECENTS list, click on the CONTACT ICON at the LEFT SIDE of the log line, and then press the "messaging" button on the top-right of the drawer that pops up from the bottom of the screen. Bang, you're in Messaging and that contact is selected.
Not sure what problem you have with the google camera application, works pretty well for me.
But yeah, photos[+] is a horrid piece of spyware crap that deserves to burn in hell.
You can disable photos by dragging it from the launcher drawer to the top of the screen "info" and pressing "disable".
THEN you can install the proper AOSP gallery, which I've rigged up to install as an external apk;
https://github.com/lbdroid/Android-Binaries/blob/master/Gallery2.apk
OR if you prefer to compile it from source yourself to reassure yourself that I didn't add any spyware to it;
https://github.com/lbdroid/android_packages_apps_Gallery2
* note: compiling that requires NDK

Thank you for the links to a gallery app. I'm gonna trust you and use the first link.. You wouldn't want to spy on my pics unless you like hot blonds and camaros (my girlfriend and my car ). That is all I take pics of for the most part.

tombaldwin6 said:
Thank you for the links to a gallery app. I'm gonna trust you and use the first link.. You wouldn't want to spy on my pics unless you like hot blonds and camaros (my girlfriend and my car ). That is all I take pics of for the most part.
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Don't trust him.
I installed that .apk and my phone blew up.
:crying::crying::crying:

You literally named issues that can almost all be fixed by using a different app instead of the one you are using. And I'm too lazy to name them all. But you didn't complain about the huge screen which is nice to not hear

Nickchapstick said:
You literally named issues that can almost all be fixed by using a different app instead of the one you are using. And I'm too lazy to name them all. But you didn't complain about the huge screen which is nice to not hear
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IKR I'm short person well below average. And I use 6in screen one handed no problem. Y is everyone so scared of it?

Exel said:
Don't trust him.
I installed that .apk and my phone blew up.
:crying::crying::crying:
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lol

hdtechk said:
IKR I'm short person well below average. And I use 6in screen one handed no problem. Y is everyone so scared of it?
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tombaldwin6 said:
I have had almost every Motorola Droid since the Original. I was so excited when they announced Motorola was getting this years Nexus. Last week when my Droid Turbo's glass broke again I was givinn the opportunity to have the Nexus. I jumped at it.. Now I'm thinking I made a mistake.. I actually miss all of moto's skin or Moto Blur . This naked android is a nightmare ! First off my Calendar no longer has a search feature( if it does I can't find it. Texting someone who've you've recently call is nearly impossible unless I enter the number manually, I'm forced to use the google camera and google photos. All these years I was lednto believe that the manufacturers skins were bad .. I'm thinking they aren't so bad after all...I'm hopping I can find some exposed mods to help me here I'm having a terrible time making the transition from my Droids to Vanilla android.
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I concur with some other folks here, it sounds like you need Chroma. IMHO the best way to describe Chroma is a vanilla version of Android with all of the little niceties added back in.

IMO the google camera has been slightly faster at responding (focusing, snapping, opening, etc) since the update to 5.1 (I have used both stock 5.1 and now cleanrom). Before that I used open camera, and still like it for the features.

MunkinDrunky said:
IMO the google camera has been slightly faster at responding (focusing, snapping, opening, etc) since the update to 5.1 (I have used both stock 5.1 and now cleanrom). Before that I used open camera, and still like it for the features.
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It was just updated.

I guess were using the term "Hot blonde" very loosely these days...
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If you miss something like moto blur your right Nexus phones are not for you. I personally DESPISE anything other than stock android. Theyre all ugly as **** and full of useless gimmicks.

chrisnk204 said:
I guess were using the term "Hot blonde" very loosely these days...
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Nice car though.

brizey said:
Search in Calendar is right in the top level menu, just above the first separator (Schedule...Day...3 Day...Week...Month....Search). Assuming you mean Google Calendar, which is stock.
Click on the contact image to bring up the contact, and the text icon is on the right. Click on the number to bring up a redial menu. Its not labeled or anything, but once you know its super easy.
Why are you forced to use Google's camera? It sucks. I use Snap Camera. Google photos sucks, too. Actually, all galleries suck compared to QuickPic. And I use SugarSync for backup because it copies the photos to a specific directory on my main PC.
And other than maybe the dialer, I used these same apps when I ran a TW ROM on my old S4. The more open API standards of Android generally allow you to use best in class apps no matter what OEM skin is in place. Also...dialers can be replaced, too. I just don't use them enough to care much.
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I myself don't mind the Google camera but ya quickpic gallery is pretty amazing I love it as well
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huh? I think she's pretty damn hot!

chrisnk204 said:
I guess were using the term "Hot blonde" very loosely these days...
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Oh snap!
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BloatwareBloatware! 26apps disabled & more uninstallled

So I hate clutter and junk in my life. My moto is "if it hasn't been used in the last month then sell it or give it away"
So with my phone, if I don't use it or have no use for it is gone.
I can't recall how many pre installed apps I was able to uninstall but there were a few.
And here are the 26apps I've disabled. I don't expect any improvement in my device but if I notice any I let you know!

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So I hate clutter and junk in my life. My moto is "if it hasn't been used in the last month then sell it or give it away"
So with my phone, if I don't use it or have no use for it is gone.
I can't recall how many pre installed apps I was able to uninstall but there were a few.
And here are the 26apps I've disabled. I don't expect any improvement in my device but if I notice any I let you know!
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Google app, calendar, email? What are you buying a high end phone for?

thedosbox said:
Google app, calendar, email? What are you buying a high end phone for?
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1.Google app does nothing for me, I just use google chrome.
2.Stock calender,don't need it. I use Google calender.
3.Stock email, don't need it. I use Gmail.
Phone still does all the high end stuff I need ☺

Woza72 said:
1.Google app does nothing for me, I just use google chrome.
2.Stock calender,don't need it. I use Google calender.
3.Stock email, don't need it. I use Gmail.
Phone still does all the high end stuff I need ☺
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1. You really should try the google app. Cards work well once it's got a sense of what you're interested in. Weather alerts, sports team news, time to destination etc.
2. Fair enough, I guess you don't need to merge multiple calendars
3. Same as #2.
TBH, it sounds like you would have been better off with a Moto or Nexus phone (if you could have dealt with the size).

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1. You really should try the google app. Cards work well once it's got a sense of what you're interested in. Weather alerts, sports team news, time to destination etc.
2. Fair enough, I guess you don't need to merge multiple calendars
3. Same as #2.
TBH, it sounds like you would have been better off with a Moto or Nexus phone (if you could have dealt with the size).
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If OP like me is not English/american then the google app is (almost) useless. Plus disabling cards saves a lot of battery

Is there any way to change the default lockscreen camera?
With other android phones, when you install an alternative camera, the lock screen ask you which camera you want to use.
There are certainly many apps that need the "Disable" option.
i.e.: "Smart Apps" main app. (I'm hiding it with ADB but it's just a workaround...).

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1. You really should try the google app. Cards work well once it's got a sense of what you're interested in. Weather alerts, sports team news, time to destination etc.
2. Fair enough, I guess you don't need to merge multiple calendars
3. Same as #2.
TBH, it sounds like you would have been better off with a Moto or Nexus phone (if you could have dealt with the size).
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Your right I would love to have got a nexus pure android but they are just too big! If only they made the 6P with a 4.8" screen and 3000mha battery I'd be all over it like a rash.
That being said, with the apps uninstallled and disabled on the z5-compact it's the perfect phone.
Sexy little beast ?

Radeon1337 said:
If OP like me is not English/american then the google app is (almost) useless. Plus disabling cards saves a lot of battery
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Canadian here, but fair point on the usefulness of cards elsewhere.
Having said that, one of the reasons to have a smartphone is because it's a mobile computer. Being able to have it do things automatically is kinda the point. I'm willing to "sacrifice" having to charge once a day for the added utility. And yes, I think the screen on time bragging is silly.

Thanks, I've been trying to figure out what I can disable

I agree completely with the OP. I disagree with the high end phone statement. 720 screen and 2gb ram, not to mention its made of plastic. It is decidedly mid range. But the high end camera+size+expandable storage makes it a no brainer for £400. Imo
I think i have around 30+ bloaty apps disabled.

Disabling/uninstalling the bloaty apps just hides them from the interface doesnt it? They are still there in the ROM taking up space.
I do agree there are way too many of them. I also have a nexus pure android but as mentioned, it is too big to be a keeper for me.
PS Woza72 thats a great guide you put together of suggested things to kill. Gunna copy most of it.

I don't think phone size makes a high end phone. There's no requirement that high end needs to be a phablet. I don't think 720 is an issue since the phone display is smaller, it should go by ppi which is on par with the latest iphone. I do agree, 2gb ram, plastic does bring it down a notch. As for the camera, that's still up in the air. I suspect the hardware is high-end but the software is low-end. It is at least on the upper end of a mid-range.

On a handset of this size, anything over 720 would not have made much difference unless you hold the thing two inches from your face. There is a ppi sweet spot and i think the Z5C is right on it.

To Sony's credit, many of the apps arent Sony bloatware, they are Google bloatware.

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To Sony's credit, many of the apps arent Sony bloatware, they are Google bloatware.
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Your joking right
Sony Bloatware: A - E
Account Manager
Active Clip
Album
Ar effect
Ar Mask
Automatic optimisation
Browser (small app)
Calculator
Calendar
Clocks
Creative effect
Email
Emergency alerts
Enchanted forest.....
Should I go on?

I doubt most people see Album, Calculator, Calender,Clocks,Email as bloatware. Kind of a dumb phone if you take those away. I guess the concept of bloatware is rather subjective then

I'm going by memory from your list but
Android Live Wallpaper
Calendar
Email
Google App
Hangouts
Talkback
Yes there is alot of sony bloat as well.

Sadman Khan said:
I doubt most people see Album, Calculator, Calender,Clocks,Email as bloatware. Kind of a dumb phone if you take those away. I guess the concept of bloatware is rather subjective then
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I'm assuming they are the line of thought that if it's not a Google app, it's bloat, but you should know that these basic apps are in every makers version of Android if its not a nexus.
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Notchr302 said:
I'm assuming they are the line of thought that if it's not a Google app, it's bloat, but you should know that these basic apps are in every makers version of Android if its not a nexus.
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And I assume nexus comes with Calendar, Email, Google App, Hangouts, Talkback, etc

That's Google bloat. Lol
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Will the PRIV be rootable?

I got the priv and it's my third day using it and man do I miss my s5, most importantly TOUCHWIZ. I had Samsung since 2010 so it's so weird to me. But my s5 was getting really laggy and slow. I'm kinda regretting the priv because I miss switching batterys, I hate being connected to an outlet and I miss having root. Would the priv be able to get root at least? I wanted something new but this is not my cup of tea. If there's no root then I'll just end getting the note 4 with removable battery and SD slot.

LuisAGee said:
I got the priv and it's my third day using it and man do I miss my s5, most importantly TOUCHWIZ. I had Samsung since 2010 so it's so weird to me. But my s5 was getting really laggy and slow. I'm kinda regretting the priv because I miss switching batterys, I hate being connected to an outlet and I miss having root. Would the priv be able to get root at least? I wanted something new but this is not my cup of tea. If there's no root then I'll just end getting the note 4 with removable battery and SD slot.
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I am also hoping there is a non tethered root method discovered for the Priv. I think there might be but I know it will be difficult. Many well known devs have already commented even before the Priv that root access will become more difficult with MM.
Just curious but what exactly are you missing about touchwiz? I have a several Samsung devices & one of the first things I like to do is rip touchwiz out & either leave functions disabled or replace it with an alternative solution. I just never liked the cost of lag that running pure stock left you with.
If you let us know specifically what your missing we may be able to offer 3rd party solutions you might actually find superior to what you get with touchwiz.

I like the weather and clock all in one and how everything is more simple. This BlackBerry android is really complicated and boring. I never really liked stock Android, Nexus and so on.

LuisAGee said:
I like the weather and clock all in one and how everything is more simple. This BlackBerry android is really complicated and boring. I never really liked stock Android, Nexus and so on.
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The weather and clock combo is a simple fix. You can take your pick of hundreds of options in the PlayStore.
The simple maybe a bit harder. Samsung really did dumb things down on their devices. (apple of Android)

zelendel said:
The weather and clock combo is a simple fix. You can take your pick of hundreds of options in the PlayStore.
The simple maybe a bit harder. Samsung really did dumb things down on their devices. (apple of Android)
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Yeah that's true, I can't believe all these apps on here on my PRIV are like all downloaded from the Google Play. They really got into te agreement that they were using android on their phone.

LuisAGee said:
Yeah that's true, I can't believe all these apps on here on my PRIV are like all downloaded from the Google Play. They really got into te agreement that they were using android on their phone.
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Not sure what you're trying to communicate here but I especially love the fact that BlackBerry is actively trying to bring the best they have in smartphone tech to the Android platform.
I don't find it complicated at all. In fact I find out exactly the opposite. The shortcuts they add to the launcher & keyboard alone have saved me tremendous amounts of time. I admit I send allot of emails & text messages but I actually like to work on my phone [emoji1]
I think you hit it in the spot when you pointed out that you never really liked stock Android which is not really a BlackBerry thing. Sure they could have done more to customize the interface like Samsung did with Touchwiz but until the Note 5 came out I really hated how slow & laggy Touchwiz made my past Samsung phones. It made my a Note 4 upgrade to lollipop so slow I had to wipe the phone & go back to kitkat.
I'd also recommend getting Chronos widgets from the Playstore. They have a great time, date, calendar combo widget.
Don't get me wrong because I think the Priv is far from perfect. I would have really preferred the following items
* removable battery
* fingerprint scanner
* DTek software that could actually block application permissions so that I have total control over my personal info
* more control over the launcher functions like the bottom screen gestures
* more control over the edge screen options & functionality
* more control over the productivity tools
* Developer Edition Priv hardware with unlocked bootloader & root access so XDA can help fix the things preventing the Priv from being the must-have smartphone device it can be!
* the rest of the missing BB7.1 & BB10 missing features & gestures [emoji1]

TechKnowGrappler said:
Not sure what you're trying to communicate here but I especially love the fact that BlackBerry is actively trying to bring the best they have in smartphone tech to the Android platform.
I don't find it complicated at all. In fact I find out exactly the opposite. The shortcuts they add to the launcher & keyboard alone have saved me tremendous amounts of time. I admit I send allot of emails & text messages but I actually like to work on my phone [emoji1]
I think you hit it in the spot when you pointed out that you never really liked stock Android which is not really a BlackBerry thing. Sure they could have done more to customize the interface like Samsung did with Touchwiz but until the Note 5 came out I really hated how slow & laggy Touchwiz made my past Samsung phones. It made my a Note 4 upgrade to lollipop so slow I had to wipe the phone & go back to kitkat.
I'd also recommend getting Chronos widgets from the Playstore. They have a great time, date, calendar combo widget.
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Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.

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Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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You can view screenshots through Photos. Click on the three lines at the top left and then you can change the view to device files. You'll then see your screenshots.
I don't think you can set the home and back buttons to always on which is probably a good thing the next time you go watch a video or some other action that might have those in your view.

LuisAGee said:
Nvm youre right, Im starting to get used to this phone but theres alot of stuff I have questions for. Do you know where the screen shots go because I can not find them on photos. I just really wish the phone had a removable battery and it wouldve been perfect but oh well I just ordered a Auckey portable charger and Auckey fast charger and Ima see how that goes. Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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Screenshots go into the subfolder called screenshots that is under the pictures folder
Pictures/Screenshots
I loaded & use the ES file manager app for all my needs
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Also is there any way to leave the back, home and clear apps always up instead of it dissapearing?
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Not sure what you mean here. Mine stays up unless I am in an app that does full screen mode like YouTube or the Gallery in full screen picture mode.

LuisAGee said:
I feel like this phone is going to be one good ass phone for awhile either way.
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I couldn't agree more [emoji16]

Blackberry's first update.
How are you guys liking the first update?

TechKnowGrappler said:
Not sure what you mean here. Mine stays up unless I am in an app that does full screen mode like YouTube or the Gallery in full screen picture mode.
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And even if you're in an app that's full screen, if you swipe up/in from the bottom of the device, the buttons appear again for use.
LuisAGee said:
How are you guys liking the first update?
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So far, it's a great improvement on all fronts, of particular note, the issue with multiple keypresses on the PKB has been resolved, so now I can truly touch type again at speed without fear.

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And even if you're in an app that's full screen, if you swipe up/in from the bottom of the device, the buttons appear again for use.
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I don't know of a way to do exactly what you're looking for but what I have done as a work around is use an app called All in One Gestures to setup gestures that I use to initiate a Home, Back, Last App navigations by swiping the edges & corners of the screen
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LuisAGee said:
How are you guys liking the first update?
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My Priv has been working much better after this update
I was having trouble with writing to my ext sdcard with exfat but after the update all my issues have disappeared

TechKnowGrappler said:
I don't know of a way to do exactly what you're looking for but what I have done as a work around is use an app called All in One Gestures to setup gestures that I use to initiate a Home, Back, Last App navigations by swiping the edges & corners of the screen
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Ah, I wasn't directing my comment at you, it was for the original person you responded to. It's a native Android function since... I think kitkat to do the swipe in from the bottom edge of the screen to bring up the softkeys whenever you're in fullscreen modes.

Wow, Wow, Ohh.....

Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.

eskimosound said:
Hi Guys, I've just bought a 6T....12 Hrs ago.
I love it, it gave me a real Wow switching it on.
There's just 3 things niggling me.
1. One speaker? Really? One Speaker?
2. The Clock and Weather Widgets, I can't get them lined up on the screen, also the trademark Red digit is not incorporated into the clock widget and both the weather and clock widgets show the date....!!! So side by side they not only don't align they repeat the same data and don't match.
3. Can't hide apps....would be nice to hide a load of stock apps I will never use.
Apart from those 3 gripes, the phone is amazing.
I absolutely love it and am very, very glad to be part of the OnePlus community.
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Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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treetolber said:
Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
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Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!

My first oneplus aswell ?. Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc

eskimosound said:
Thanks...yeah I hear you about the speaker but when you are watching a movie all the audio is in on one side....I mean come on it's mono and that went out in the 1960's!!!!
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You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.

treetolber said:
Let me tell you what I've learned since I have gotten mine. I'm not sure about the clock and weather widget. But at far as the single speaker, this phone doesn't need 2. This summer l speaker is loud. And you can hide apps by creating a Locker. I'm not sure yet how to do that but you can Google that, that's where I read about it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS 6T using XDA-Legacy App
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Dr8ven said:
My first oneplus aswell . Another tip in hiding apps is that you can store them in the hidden section of your stock launcher. You can do that by swiping up to get to your apps and if you gently Swype from the left corner to the right it brings up the hidden section. One the speaker in with you most times than not I tend to cover it by accident while watching YouTube etc
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Dark Nightmare said:
You can hide apps, open the app drawer, swipe left, you can hide them in there.
Btw there's a dual speaker mod in the app section.
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Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....

eskimosound said:
Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.

eskimosound said:
Oh Wow, thanks guys that's a real secret!! Excellent.
I did see the dual speaker mod but I need to be rooted and I'm still debating whether it's worth it or not. I don't want to make my phone buggy and slow and I'm sick of cloak root and stuff like that....
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Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...

Dark Nightmare said:
Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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It is amazing, so clean and fast. I've had no stalls, apps download and install in seconds without causing any clitching.
I can have a dark theme on an amoled screen which looks awesome. I think it's brilliant. I've got the international version because I'm UK. I might well root but now I can hide the apps it would only be to sort out the speaker...but that's in the future....I'm more than happy for the time being now knowing I can hide the bloatware.

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Fair enough, it's a great phone stock as well, I just rooted to mess around, plus I like the international rom more since I'm on the t-mobile variant.
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Yeah I haven't rooted yet. Just got my bootloader unlock token today. I think I'm going to wait for the dev of some ROMs to catch up a little. To me this phone is perfect as is.
By the way in my earlier statement about the speaker, replace the word summer with single. I got auto corrected.
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Yeah I'm definitely waiting the phone is too good!!
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Even the phone itself tells you how to hide apps in its default launcher, it pops up just after you open app drawer...
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I must have missed that...
So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?

eskimosound said:
So do you know why my stock clock widget doesn't have the red digits? Is there an APK somewhere on XDA that can sort it?
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No, sorry, I'm not using stock clock.

Here's mine..

eskimosound said:
Here's mine..
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Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"

I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!

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Don't use the clock widget, search through your widgets for one called "OnePlus widget"
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Yep, that's the weather widget it's great and has the red digit.
But there is no clock with the red digit.
There is however a setting for the red digit clock for the lockscreen...so somewhere in the phone is a red digit clock widget!!!

hatlesssandman said:
I completely agree with the OP regarding the feeling when using this phone. I had been a long time htc fan but after TMobile stopped carrying it, I was lost because the os experience was severely lacking from the other manufacturers. I'm on jump on demand and I tried fiddling around with lg and Samsung for a little bit but just want satisfied. Finally made the switch to iPhone and was happy for 2 years with apple, however after apple pulled the stunt of increasing prices for subpar upgrade to the iPhone this year, left a bad taste in my mouth and when I saw TMobile will carry the one plus, I decided to jump and give it a shot. It's been a long time since I had the feeling of having the perfect phone and this is coming from someone who tends to change phones every 3 to 4 months due to the freedom provided by JOD. I will be keeping this until the next upgrade from one plus comes out. Plus I got lucky as one of the reps sim unlocked my phone even though I met none of their criteria for unlock in the spirit of Thanksgiving holiday! So a pleasant bonus and now currently waiting for bootloader unlock code for root. The only reason I want to root is due to completely and utterly blocking ads from everything including apps. That is one thing I miss from apple. A lot less ads on the device compared to Android, however that should be resolved soon. This stock os is perfect otherwise! Amazing battery life, extremely fast charging, and buttery smooth! What else can one ask for!
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Yep it's a great phone....very very glad I made the switch from HTC.
Advertisement wise you can use Edge browser with AdBlocker extension. It helps a lot.
I still haven't had one glitch or stall!!!
It's been nothing but super smooth...

Hey look at the widgets I've found...

The red digit is only the 1. Anytime a 1 shows in the temperature or time, it's red.

eskimosound said:
Hey look at the widgets I've found...
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Where did you find those?