Can we discuss what video formats you use for dvd rips and settings . What works what doesnt. App you use and on what os.
Me personally i make 720p mp4 videos using mpeg streamclip on my mac. I always hear ppl talking about making 1080p mkv files or whatever does the quality even matter on our none hd screens ?? Arnt dvds only 480 or 720p any how. Anyone here rip bluerays .
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DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
Blurays are 1080p. The scale (e.g. 720p size reduction) and quality you use are dependent on what you
intend to play the videos on. 720p is perfect for the Galaxy Note 10.1 with its 800p screen
Suggested format:
The best video codec: h264
The best audio codec: aac
The best container: mkv (for multiple audio and subs) or mp4 (subs as well as more than two audio streams a bit troublesome)
My preference (h264 video +aac audio) in mkv.
As a rough guide:
A practical DVD rip = ~1.3-1.7 GB (~1500 kbps @480p)
A decent BluRay rip would be ~2.7 GB (~2500 kbps @720p)
A fairly transparent BluRay rip ~5 GB (~4000 kbps @720p)
Free or Commercial:
Depending on how much control you want over quality, as well as ease of use, I'd say go with a commercial solution (WinAVI is quite good).
Otherwise free solutions are quite good (e.g. RipBot264, StaxRip, Handbrake) but you will need to decrypt your purchased discs to your hard drives.
I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.
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I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.
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The 1080p could probably show better. Though the difference should be negligible.
If the video has black bars, these may be cropped in encoding. Which means the 1080p video is closer to 900p.
Encoding a cropped video to 720p may actually be closer to 544p (i.e. 1280x544p) to maintain the aspect ratio (so the video doesn't look "tall").
If the audio stream is 5.1 DTS audio, you're gonna probably have stuttering due to processing the larger audio file.
2 Channel (stereo) audio is all you need for the Note 10.1
Thanks guys so making my dvd rips 720p isnt doing anything but making a bigger file eh. Dont think mpeg streamclip has mkv which is why i use mp4 so far with no issues. My settings are h.264 aac 3000kbps bitrate limit and files are around 2 gb...
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Think im gunna look into an external blueray ripper for my mac. Any good programs for mac?
Tried handbrake but it doesnt take dvd rips, ie vob files.
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I usually rip my DVD's and convert them to .avi or mp4 at 480p or lower and purchase fullHD movies and re-encode them to 480p or 720p when i want to load them in my tablet. As long as the audio is good (i tend to favor conversion to stereo for tablet playback), i'm willing to sacrifice a little in image quality since having movies in fullHD can eat up a lot of space pretty quickly.
Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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The difference of 480p against 720p isn't very noticeable if you watch movies with your tablet at arm's length.
720p is HD, and 1080p is Full HD so we do have an HD display. And I enjoy a good MKV Bluray rip on this device using BS Player.
And watching 480p isnt as bad due to the resolution.
Very nice app to convert videos on the fly...
...is Video Converter Android, an app for the Note 10.1.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsInJvbWFuMTAubWVkaWEuY29udmVydGVyIl0.
I have many videos in different formats, which sometimes cannot be played on the note 10.1. So I loaded them on my extSD, search in this app for video files, and all are found (3Gp, MPG, everything). Then I just tap on "convert" and the app changes format so that the movie can be played with stock video player.
I do not like to wait hours for video conversion at home til my pc is done with the task. The Note works on even with display switched off, and conversion is really fast.
ensure you rip them as summed to stereo if you are using large bitrates, BS player can deal with 5.1 audio but struggles with higher bitrates as it can only decode 5.1 in software. Stock player can play 5.1 AC3
REWORDED: On this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding. Thanks.
What frame height & frame width do people recommend ?
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DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
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To be accurate NTSC DVDs are 480 horizontal lines max. PAL are (up to) 576.
But back to the OPs question, I use makemkv to RIP the DVD and then Freemake to recode to generic Android supported codecs - which also decreases the file size by a factor of 3.
Freemake allows you to set a "up to" resolution so one setting of 720p will do for all DVDs and BluRay/HD-DVDs ...
With this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding.
Anyone? Thanks.
So for the longest time, my Note 3 always lagged a bit with 1080p videos, but a few days ago when I just updated to the newest MX Player, 1080p videos now play perfectly.
A majority of my videos are encoded in 720p mainly because 1080p couldn't play right, but now I'm thinking of re-encoding all my movies in 1080p. My question is will it make a difference in quality? I can always tell the difference in quality when I watch on my 42 inch TV since there's some distance between me and my TV, but when I watch my videos on my phone, I usually have it in front of my face pretty close. Would a video in 1080p make a difference to a 720p video even on a small 5 inch phone? I can tell a huge difference between another one of my phone which is 4 inch (480p) vs my Note 3 (720p) when playing videos. I just want to know if there is no real difference, I was going to keep 720p because 1080p videos are damn huge.
Sorry for the long question. Kudos to anyone who has any knowledge on this subject.
The fact is 1080p will technically appear better than 720p. Whether or not you notice the difference will depend on how well your eyes are attuned to high pixel images. While I've never done a comparison on my note 3 I have clearly noticed the difference on an 8in tablet. I can notice pixelation on 4k images and higher but I've been exposing my eyes to them for years now. I honestly don't think it would bother you (or me) if watching videos, but if you are ocd like me and have the original files at higher resolution with the storage space I would probably make all my videos the highest res available based on the original (understanding that without high end video editing software there is no benefit to increasing resolution beyond the original).
Oops I forgot to mention. I actually never had problems with 1080p videos. It was always the ones that were encoded in 10bit + 1080p that lagged. With the latest version of MX Player, SW decoder can actually play the damn thing without much lag. And this is with the subtitle enabled which is pretty amazing.
My eyesight is pretty horrible so maybe I won't notice the sharpness of 1080p much...
Edit - So I tested a few videos. Looks like I overestimated the SW decoding. It's definitely come a long way because there isn't as much as lag as before, but there IS still lag. I actually tested some 10bit 1080p with insanely high bitrates and it lags like a mother still. The lag isn't as bad as before, but it is still there. Guess I will just stick with 10bit 720p for now. No matter how much better 1080p may look, it doesn't beat 720p with perfect playback and no annoying lags.
You brought up the one thing I forgot to mention about differences between the two, bitrate. When it comes to encoded videos (not on a disc), bitrate is almost everything when it comes to quality. My previous post holds true as long as the bitrate remains comparable. If a 720p video has a significantly higher bitrate than a 1080p video, the 720p will view better in almost every scenario.
I don't know at what point the Note 3 will be unable to support smooth playback, but depending on what format you have encoded your videos will determine the quality. What I do know is that bluray level bitrate if far too high for the Note 3. I would take a guess that somewhere between 3000 - 4000 kbps would be the limited to what the hardware could handle but I could be mistaken. What I do know is that using MP4 (or MKV with MP4 encoding) at around 2k kbps is close to the same visual quality (on smaller screens) as any container using H.264 encoding at 3k-4k kbps.
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You brought up the one thing I forgot to mention about differences between the two, bitrate. When it comes to encoded videos (not on a disc), bitrate is almost everything when it comes to quality. My previous post holds true as long as the bitrate remains comparable. If a 720p video has a significantly higher bitrate than a 1080p video, the 720p will view better in almost every scenario.
I don't know at what point the Note 3 will be unable to support smooth playback, but depending on what format you have encoded your videos will determine the quality. What I do know is that bluray level bitrate if far too high for the Note 3. I would take a guess that somewhere between 3000 - 4000 kbps would be the limited to what the hardware could handle but I could be mistaken. What I do know is that using MP4 (or MKV with MP4 encoding) at around 2k kbps is close to the same visual quality (on smaller screens) as any container using H.264 encoding at 3k-4k kbps.
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I encode most of my videos in MKV format which is why the bitrate is already high enough. Most of my 720p videos have a bitrate of around 2k-2.5k and that's good enough for me. Most of the 1080p videos are almost triple that amount so I guess it's not surprising that the Note 3 will have some hiccup here and there. Not to mention the size of the files are almost 3-4 times big which isn't really ideal for my small storage.
Anyway, thanks for the helpful reply. Wish I can do HW+ decoding with MX player, but alas that's not possible so I guess I will stick with 720p.
Seems that non of my PCs can handle 4K files
Is there a free and good downscaler?
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I recommend iDealshare VideoGo whch can Convert Video in 4K to Video in 1080p with High Output Video Quality.
S8 Exynos variant, I'm on latest software update (august patch), youtube videos at 1080p 60fps with HDR stutter on my phone. Sometimes the brightness goes down then up then down then up again and so on (HDR clips should keep the brightness all the way up I think). It seems to drop frames also, since I've watched the clips at 720p and I've seen the difference.
The clip I watched was on youtube's recommended smartphones page (S8 is on that page ...).
S8 Exynos variant is not optimized to handle HDR 60FPS High resolution content. It's just..... it can't.
The device is limited of what it can do actually, yes it can play HDR content but moving up to 1080p HDR 60fps and above, it will tear out the screen in youtube, that will make your eyes hurt.
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S8 Exynos variant is not optimized to handle HDR 60FPS High resolution content. It's just..... it can't.
The device is limited of what it can do actually, yes it can play HDR content but moving up to 1080p HDR 60fps and above, it will tear out the screen in youtube, that will make your eyes hurt.
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The problem is with HDR movies only. I watched lots of movies at 1440p 60fps without problems. Also, youtube recognized my phone and 1080p HDR was the maximum choice at Resolution option (on PC it goes higher). If it can't play the movie at 1080p HDR the maximum resolution should be 720p HDR, right?
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The problem is with HDR movies only. I watched lots of movies at 1440p 60fps without problems. Also, youtube recognized my phone and 1080p HDR was the maximum choice at Resolution option (on PC it goes higher). If it can't play the movie at 1080p HDR the maximum resolution should be 720p HDR, right?
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There is a big difference with videos that are HDR and NON-HDR content.
I can watch 60fps 1440p movies NON-HDR without problems.
But watching something that is 1080p HDR content will cause some stuttering and/or fragmentation that stresses our eyes.
S8 is not as good as S9 when it comes to HDR viewing. S9 is provisioned to be HDR ready in Netflix, but S8 is not.
I buy 4k + 1080p + digital movies, rip the 1080p and 4k hdr content at its highest quality sometimets upto 70GB size for 4k hdr pure mkv files, disc on my hdd and stream through plex on shield tv pro 2019.
is ai scaling pointless if the files are pure mkv 4k and 1080p and direct play from pc to shield?
whats there to upscale?
1080p to 4k scaling?
I did demo test on avatar 1080p, it upscales it most definitely, wow.
4k hdr doesn't get upscaled says nothing to upscale. ofc. unless 8k streaming device.
makes me wonder if nvidia has more in the works since 2019 for a new device even better n more powerful.