I know this is a noob question or rant
But isn't max pro m2 have similar camera sensor used in Zenfone 5 or 5z which provides so many camera features
RAW support,full manual support, AI charging and lots more
I known we can't have all this in max pro m2 but we can have some feature in max pro m2 since it uses SD660 and zenfone 5 uses SD636 and zenfone 5 offer so more
Why can't we root max pro m2 and install zenfone 5 ROM to get most of its features
I am really disappointed with the camera development group
I know its not easy to develop anything from scratch but cmon enable camera2api for just GCAM it only just amps up the brightness with algorithms
Why can't we get full manual control of the camera of a phone which have such better hardware both in terms of sensor and processor
Enable camera2api and we can't get shutter speed above 1/4 sec or iso of 50 or RAW support
Why can't we have all this feature in one app even after enable camera2api on rooted max pro m2
I am not writhing this to trash anyone but can't we all come together to make this phone a better in terms of camera and battery where we can fully utilize the hardware capability
Cmom you guys are XDA developer
There is raw support in gcam.
But u can't have manual control like iso,shutter speed in gcam and gcam is kind of not that great where as u can get amazing result in full manual control+ RAW
I found this post stupid, i believe that the devs is still working on it. If you got nothing good to share please stay quite.
They are deeply sorry and are offering a full refund if you submit the receipt . Oh wait.
code_hopper said:
They are deeply sorry and are offering a full refund if you submit the receipt . Oh wait.
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I love sarcasm ?
code_hopper said:
They are deeply sorry and are offering a full refund if you submit the receipt . Oh wait.
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Lol
My bad I expected a lot.form them
Sorry if I offended anyone
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My needs:
- Good Camera, esp for indoor and low light use. Need a good manual mode. Portrait mode not important, need to shoot mostly landscape pics.
- Good build quality
- Long lasting battery (~1-2 days for light use)
- Light user, no gaming or other heavy apps
The camera of Mi A1 vs Zenfone 3:
- A1 = dual set up vs Zenfone = single 16MP camera
- A1 = no Laser autofocus, no OIS
- Zenfone 3 = Sony IMX 298 sensor (same as on on oneplus 3t), not sure about A1 sensor quality.
- Maximum shutter speed : 0.067s for A1 vs 32s for Zenfone 3
- Zenfone 3 has a full featured manual mode (more options for shutter speed, WB, ISO etc)
Zenfone 3 comes with a full glass back, and is now more than a year old. The price is half of the launch price. What would you advise. The mi A1 or the Zenfone 3?
go for the A1. some users of ZF3 are having camera issue like blur camera or not focusing.
The camera is not great you need full light. The dual camera is more of a marketing gimmick.
Battery is also not great but does well for the capacity.
For battery I recommend the Lenovo P2 although I have no info on the camera.
cheeze.keyk said:
go for the A1. some users of ZF3 are having camera issue like blur camera or not focusing.
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thanks for that info, I went thru the Asus forums and like you said, users have complained of camera focus issuing. Are ther any known issues in the Mi A1 that I need to be aware of?
pow01 said:
The camera is not great you need full light. The dual camera is more of a marketing gimmick.
Battery is also not great but does well for the capacity.
For battery I recommend the Lenovo P2 although I have no info on the camera.
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thanks for confirming what i suspected about the camera on A1. Lenovo P2 was on my list, but its bigger and heavier than I need.
dzarg said:
thanks for confirming what i suspected about the camera on A1. Lenovo P2 was on my list, but its bigger and heavier than I need.
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Both are 5.5" the size difference is minimal. Slightly thicker due to the monster 5100mAh battery
Expandable memory up to 256mb and HD video. The main drawback being that pesky Lenovo software but community is active on here.
If you take indoor photos, don't buy Mi A1. It has awful low light performance (and I mean awful. The pictures come out grainy. However it has slightly improved by Oreo update). The daylight photos come out amazing though! Landscape photos are amazing.
with google camera it's not bad at all
traianescu said:
with google camera it's not bad at all
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Damn, the difference!
Edwin Hamal said:
Damn, the difference!
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Yes, i know.. it is all about software... The hardware, as you see, it is capable to shot great pics in low light condition
@traianescu
thanks for the pics, I can see the big difference.
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
robgee789 said:
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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thanks a lot, mate. your experience helps my decision making.
robgee789 said:
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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If you don't mind, can you post few comparison images? specially in low light. I'm curious.
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If you don't mind, can you post few comparison images? specially in low light. I'm curious.
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Yeah man here are a couple i just opened and snapped no messing with settings or anything i havnt even checked them so so can judge for your self mate
these are mi a1
https://i.imgur.com/hSgBe3P.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DpXBhU7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oMdNwgi.jpg
these are zenfone 3
https://i.imgur.com/jIdDDCD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F5M8LKg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nodUMxG.jpg
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Yeah man here are a couple i just opened and snapped no messing with settings or anything i havnt even checked them so so can judge for your self mate
these are mi a1
https://i.imgur.com/hSgBe3P.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DpXBhU7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oMdNwgi.jpg
these are zenfone 3
https://i.imgur.com/jIdDDCD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F5M8LKg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nodUMxG.jpg
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Thanks! Zenfone 3 is better IMO. In A1, images are blurry but in Zenfone 3 images looks sharp and better.
You can get sharp images with the a1 but there is kind of stabilisation so it's hard and videos are better in zenfone 3 too, if you switch to night mode in the zenfone the Image is very bright and pretty clear but night mode on a1 does nothing lol
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
I had a Zenfone 2 Laser and man, how much I hated that phone. It has bloatware with takes a big part of the space and like a Custom ROM fan I am no one even cared for that device. So, I recommend any phone over Asus ones ^^
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with google camera it's not bad at all
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Is HDR+ enabled? The difference between the pictures is huge.
Yes, hdr activated on both cameras, to have a fair comparison..
The camera it is more than i need on the phone.. my complains are two other thing: it is huuuge, compared with my ex iphone 5s and i don't have a real fm radio app.. maybe when we will have the kernel source...
Miui 10 got update with new camera APIs which is gonna be there for all. It is available in China now. I am sure Mi A2 will also get it in coming updates... Then we can enjoy the camera of This phone properly... Please correct if this news is wrong.
MIUI and Google One do not have anything in common, so I can not connect your expectation as relevant.
Incorrect
Right, well I don't know what your situation is with modding your Mi A2, but I discovered that after you've unlocked the bootloader & installed Magisk Root that if the flash this "MiUi Camera All Features" Magisk Module from another thread, this enables The Full level 3 Camera 2 API:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/themes/miui-camara-features-magisk-t3841269
This is a fantastic upgrade over the stock MiA2 camera app in itself. Xiaomi basically gimped the camera's features, as to not upstage much more expensive Xiaomi phones and this releases them such as 4k30p front video recording and enhanced HDR Pro Modes which work brilliantly.
However, the upshot of flashing this enabling Camera 2 is amazing for this reason. Just today I've been testing @Arnova8G2 's port of the Pixel 3 app and the HDR+ Enhanced is next level stuff. Portrait mode, front & back ,is also working fine. RAW file capture is also working. Gonna test out Nightsight tonight. You get a green screen through the viewfinder, but the shots do actually work. Only thing not working for me is slow mo....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78054159&postcount=2
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MIUI and Google One do not have anything in common, so I can not connect your expectation as relevant.
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Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie. It is not present in the current beta but it might be later.
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Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie. It is not present in the current beta but it might be later.
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If you're referring to the 'Camera 2 API Will be enabled in android Pie CONFIRMED' thread, then the following is exactly what was said:
"Starting with Android Pie, newly launching devices are expected to have newer camera HAL versions, which will enable better support for camera2."
Does that include the A2? Because it's not a "newly launching device". And the statement implies, imho, it will be newly launching devices that launch with Pie.
That's not the A2. I wish they would enable it. but that statement above is a reach to believe "Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie". they said newly launching, not upgraded to.
If Xiaomi giving camera 2 API in miui 10 update to its all phone then there is no reason that Xiaomi will not give it to mi A2. I am pretty confident that with the demand and competition Xiaomi will provide this feature to this device shortly.
Don't create a thread affirming something that you have no proof of.
Google is expanding their camera development, and that is the one of the main parts and improvements of PIE it self, to support multi cameras for example, you can read all about that on the official Android PIE page, but that doesn't mean nothing for us, unfortunately.
"Multi-camera support and camera updates
On devices running Android 9, you can access streams simultaneously from two or more physical cameras. On devices with either dual-front or dual-back cameras, you can create innovative features not possible with just a single camera, such as seamless zoom, bokeh, and stereo vision. The API also lets you call a logical or fused camera stream that automatically switches between two or more cameras.
Other improvements in camera include additional Session parameters that help to reduce delays during initial capture, and surface sharing that lets camera clients handle various use cases without the need to stop and start camera streaming. We've also added APIs for display-based flash support and access to OIS timestamps for app-level image stabilization and special effects.
In Android 9 the multi-camera API supports monochrome cameras for devices with FULL or LIMITED capability. Monochrome output is achieved via the YUV_420_888 format with Y as grayscale, U (Cb) as 128, and V (Cr) as 128.
Android 9 also enables support for external USB/UVC cameras on supported devices."
https://developer.android.com/about/versions/pie/android-9.0
Technicalyog said:
If Xiaomi giving camera 2 API in miui 10 update to its all phone then there is no reason that Xiaomi will not give it to mi A2. I am pretty confident that with the demand and competition Xiaomi will provide this feature to this device shortly.
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I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
Guys, by my post I am not affirming anything. I read some news about camera 2 API being enabled by Xiaomi for all its phones by miui 10 update and that has already been released for China.. so I am just trying to say that the probability of getting camera 2 API for this phone are very high now. In android pie or in coming updates we could get it. So no affirmative post but high probability post. Thanks
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I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
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at least you guys have 4.9 kernel and stable custom roms
Ritik99 said:
I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
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Mi A1's cameras are a disgrace tho, reason why I waited and got Mi A2.
OP : " I am not affirming anything"
also OP : "API2 will be available for mi a2"
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If the title is so annoying for some guys, moderator please change the title... Sorry guys
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Don't create a thread affirming something that you have no proof of.
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He's right. I saw the thread too in mi community. If Xiaomi enables c2api to Miui devices there's no doubt that they won't enable it to Mi a2
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If the title is so annoying for some guys, moderator please change the title... Sorry guys
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The mods won't bother to change something you can change yourself.
Bring up the original thread, click edit, then click 'Advanced'.
It will then allow you to change the title.
All I heard was the mi 9t, and no pro variant.
Seems to be coming a pro version. Dutch phoneseller belsimpel.nl has a link to this device, and they are official xiaomi seller. Might also be to generate some pre-sales just in case....
hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..
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hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..
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Me too
I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thank you for your input, i didnt know that.
And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582
spychodelics said:
I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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But the Mi 9T Pro has a Super Amoled screen which uses less power than just an Amoled screen, so that may make up for some loss of power from the chip.
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thanks for the info on the laser autofocus. I was wondering about that as the videos I've seen seem to indicate that the Mi 9T seems to have issues focusing in videos it's creating.
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And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582
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Yes you are right. That's why the 30FPS vs the 60FPS.
The K20 pro is launching next month in India and they don't have a mi 9 so nothing to worry about from Xiaomi's part
However the global market has a mi 9 which is just 3 months old. My guess is there'll be at least another 3 months wait for the pro varient.
Mi 9t pro is in 3 month an old phone. IMHO a Bad decision to release the non pro first.
So since the OnePlus 9 pro came out I couldn't but notice that the main/selfie camera is the same as our "beloved" 8 pro but if I understood correctly that hasselblad tweaked the 9 pro's camera app. Or was it just the glass?
Anywho is there any difference between the OnePlus 9 pro's camera app and our 8 pro?
I personally do not know. However, I do not believe that they will ever make anything good again. Who the heck needs or wants a frant facing camera, anyway? I mean are we 13-16 year old girls trying to get as many STD's as we can before we hit the wall?
Well personally I love a good front facing camera especially with a wide angle one with a good aperture but that will never happen....
After seeing what op9p has to offer I think OnePlus has lost its touch and my experience with the op8p isn't helping either..
Is anyone working on a port of the APK?
I don't think the hardware is anything to do with the company they collaborated with, so if it's software then it could be portable?
Maybe
*Spoiler alert, grumpy post ahead*
Had many cameraphones in the past,but the choice that Oppo made running along with the IXM766, the sensor is disappointing in every aspect, like, come on! 1.56" sensor with 1.0 microns?! Seriously?!
Camera quality is noisy day or night.
Photos are over exposed.
hdr mode is a joke, the Pixel 6 and 6A murdering this phone blindfolded.
Portrait mode is like storm trooper trying to hit a tank 2 meters away and still miss the target.
Using video mode killing both battery and heats up the device badly, even without tapping the Record button the phone heats up..
Macro mode not kick's in automatically.
Using the Pro mode showing same results
Thought that upgrading to Android 13 will do any better but nothing was changed in the camera department...shame..
I have the Oppo Find X5 btw..
Came to see in the forum if other people are having such a worse camera experience with this phone as me.
This phone is the perfect textbook example of "doesn't matter how many/or high quality camera sensors you put in a phone, if the software is crap, the whole experience is crap".
Instead of making such a marketing about this "Marisilicone x" thing and other technical crap advertisement, Oppo could have spend this time more useful in the camera software development.
I'm surprised to say that my 7T Pro takes a lot better photo's than this phone.
My opinion of course...
Had Xiaomi Mi 11 before the Oppo and the Pixel, it actually demolishes the Oppo in every aspect.
With GCAM? it's perfect!
The Oppo does not have a proper GCAM either...
Try Shamim Oppo package.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42
Download SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42 by Shamim.
www.celsoazevedo.com
null0seven said:
Try Shamim Oppo package.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42
Download SGCAM_8.4.400.42.XXX_STABLE_V42 by Shamim.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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best XML for X5 Pro with this Gcam? Thanks
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best XML for X5 Pro with this Gcam? Thanks
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Which xml you're using?
I really enjoy speed and fast charging, but just had p30 pro come back from repair and night photography destroyed x5 pro..., tried so many different setting, options, nothing help to come even close, I really hope future updates will fix this issue, now I am thinking what to do as p30 pro got brand new battery, motherboard and latest november patch.., should I keep it and sell x5 pro or other way...
that bad, I hoped it would be good
HDR is really a joke, for the price paid it seems like a bad joke... so far no update