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Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus - 6GB RAM, Triple Cameras

Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?

If a decent developer community forms and this gets the ability to work on Verizon then I'm sold. But I have to hold out hopes that the Mi5 progress keeps advancing and can easily translate to this device.

toffzter said:
Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
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Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.

jlmcr87 said:
Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.

Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?

Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.

hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!

strifej said:
Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
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Well, sadly enough that the imx378's sensor is large and I assumed that is why the dual camera setup with that sensor is not achievable.
Same goes to OIS, most probably due to sensor size issues. (Pixel phones have no OIS thou)
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hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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Where did you ordered from?
Well, just wait for developers to get their hands on the device~
Device is just too new

hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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So how is your experience with Xiaomi Mi5s?

toffzter said:
Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
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From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.

gnazio said:
From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
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So I guess it will result to much clearer pictures and lesser noise compared to the single color camera. That's nice. :good:

EMJI79 said:
No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
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Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS

Xziting said:
Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
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You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]

EMJI79 said:
You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
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Yep it can do bokeh effect

Wow great! [emoji1]
I saw a screenshot on eu.miui.
Would have bought it if it were sold with that when it came out. Now I have bought a Sony. Probably will wait for the Mi Note Pro 2.

Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?

EMJI79 said:
Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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I have it and for me there's 2 things that I don't like. MIUI 8 , I'm a stock Android guy I hope somebody bring cm or something like this to this mobile and the other thing it's the camera, it's a camera for me from the beginning of 2015, that perform well in optimal light conditions and in low light even with the stereo option it's not very well.
Conclusion, I'm not a photo guy so there's no problem but I can't support miui even that it runs fast in this mobile. So until we have some development to this mobile I'm going to stay whit my axon 7.
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

EMJI79 said:
Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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Optimal light conditions interior and low light outside
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

Don't you like taking photos during daylight?

Yes I do , but almost every 2105/2016 phone does nice or ok photos in daylight.
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

[PHOTOS] Post your Mi 6 shots here !!

I've created this thread to share the pictures taken by Xiaomi MI 6 and to share opinion about camera.. :fingers-crossed:

My first photo

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My first photo
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So beautiful!

Here is mine. I am using multi rom and camera performance not good. I think xiaomi.eu or stock chinese roms better camera perfomance.

I present you pictures of my wife

latest xiaomi.eu rom..

Take with my MI6 with last china stable firmware

Just testing

Using miui by xiaomi.eu for a week now...

Has anyone got RAW file output working yet?
I don't own the device, but thinking of buying, and RAW (.dng) photos would be the last push over the edge for me to buy it.
I'm currently using a OnePlus One, with Camera FV-5 app for RAW photos.
Not impressed with the announced price of the OP5, particularly when I can get the very similar specced Mi 6 for over £100 less.

The theater on a dark day....

Gesendet von meinem MI 6 mit Tapatalk

A peaceful afternoon after graduation from high school together with my brand new Mi 6 and my old Sony Xperia feat. Hatsune Miku.
i4.piimg.com/1949/ea62cfeb24007ee0.jpg
I can't post links now... so sorry

Hiking trip...

Here are mine pasta

One shot with hdr (blurry) one without.

Mi6 takes nice photo, pleased the eyes.
Hope they will make raw support and longer exp time

alone_in_dark said:
I've created this thread to share the pictures taken by Xiaomi MI 6 and to share opinion about camera.. :fingers-crossed:
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hi there. i tested the camera (back) with 3 different roms available here.
so here's the tests
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bx3nX0h7azHEc3VkeTlMTWZOR2c?usp=sharing
this is all low light. and it's where the camera is still not 100% good

xkim toino said:
hi there. i tested the camera (back) with 3 different roms available here.
this is all low light. and it's where the camera is still not 100% good
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Any way to improve low light camera?

xkim toino said:
hi there. i tested the camera (back) with 3 different roms available here.
so here's the tests
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bx3nX0h7azHEc3VkeTlMTWZOR2c?usp=sharing
this is all low light. and it's where the camera is still not 100% good
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Thanks for this amazing contribution! What do you think abt the pics on each rom?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 5X come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

anyone can share their photos? How's the camera performance?

I have this device for testing purposes.
Can tell the camera is not that good. Pics are blurry and HDR mode is not on point.
Selfie cam almost does a better job than dual lens.

I heard and saw all kind of stuffs regarding the camera on reviews, from opinions (and photos and videos) where you can see the camera sucks to others where you see a great camera quality. This obviously will depend as well on the experience of the user.
I specially saw the camera seems to be very bad when trying to capture objects in movement.
It would be good if experienced people could share objective opinions of the camera on all the conditions.

Let's say the quality you get is absolutely random. Some shots will be good, others bad... it's mostly average.
Overall there's a lack of sharpness.

bel57 said:
Let's say the quality you get is absolutely random. Some shots will be good, others bad... it's mostly average.
Overall there's a lack of sharpness.
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I totally agree... sometimes i manage to take a great shot, but its so.random. the photo quality is way inferior to my old nexus 5x.

bel57 said:
Let's say the quality you get is absolutely random. Some shots will be good, others bad... it's mostly average.
Overall there's a lack of sharpness.
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hey i want to but this phone, it launched in india as XIAOMI A1,
i am confused between A1 and MOTO G5S plus,
have you tried G5S plus camera ??
please suggest best mobile between XIAOMI A1 and G5s PLUS.

Wow, calm down. Here you can find my review about the Mi 5X.
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/xi...rtphone-abordable-qui-sait-presque-tout-faire
I'll be testing the Mi A1 soon. I've never got my hands on a Moto so can't tell you which one is the best, watch the comparisons... get the Mi 5X if you love Mi devices or maybe wait for the Mi A1?
Can't tell, it's up to you!

Taken in morning with 2x zoom from mi a1

ashish_zarekar said:
hey i want to but this phone, it launched in india as XIAOMI A1,
i am confused between A1 and MOTO G5S plus,
have you tried G5S plus camera ??
please suggest best mobile between XIAOMI A1 and G5s PLUS.
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i bought moto g5s plus and returned the mobile after using it for one week that camera is good but it has lots of bugs and moto has to give update and front camera video recording is worst ....
then i bought mi a1 which is far better than moto g5s+ camera is btr in this mobile in my opinion u can go with MI A1.....

balu3007 said:
i bought moto g5s plus and returned the mobile after using it for one week that camera is good but it has lots of bugs and moto has to give update and front camera video recording is worst ....
then i bought mi a1 which is far better than moto g5s+ camera is btr in this mobile in my opinion u can go with MI A1.....
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i bought it before 10day ago, i bought it from amazon and now i dont know whether i can return it or not,
from where did you bought moto ? and how much refund did you get ?
and i believe, why should i exchange my mobile only because of real camera clarity ? amm getting confused,
i just want to stay with moto g5s plus because i know we will have some BOOM upgrades in near future

I just got my MI A1 as an upgrade for my 4 years old Nexus 5 daily driver. First impressions in Daylight the MI A1 outperforms the Nexus 5, but in low light the lack of OIS and relatively small 1.25 um pixel size means the A1 struggles a lot. Even getting a sharp focus is slow comparing with my Nexus 6P which has laser autofocus.
In comparison my Nexus 5 has OIS and 1.4 um pixels, and my Nexus 6P has 1.55 um pixels.
Taking into account the cost of the MI A1 however, this phone is a tip top performer and I have no compliants for what I paid. Very happy with it.
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Here are some samples I shot with the MI A1, might post more soon.
Photos have been scaled down by Google Photos app.
1. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZnPCaOmsNQtHaspq2
2. https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zBmB58K2wp2JGvl1
3. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xluE7J1qFcO27Ols1
4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/IwdZ4ybNZMQtvsxq1
5. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dPQsGItVW1Cal6nr1

outdoor camera is acceptable also when you use 2x zoom, but indoor very poor, so many noise and lack of sharpness

Yeah, acceptable but not tip top performing.
I mean, the Mi 5X/ Mi A1 is good for taking photo of people, but average quality is poor and outdoor result like landscape with HDR definitely bad. In HHT the camera sucks.

bad really bad camera

as a mi 5x user i can confirm this is the most accurate answer

is there a Mi 9T Pro?

All I heard was the mi 9t, and no pro variant.

Seems to be coming a pro version. Dutch phoneseller belsimpel.nl has a link to this device, and they are official xiaomi seller. Might also be to generate some pre-sales just in case....

hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..

Ch3ck3rM0n said:
hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..
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Me too

I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.

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I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS

Bart1981 said:
There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thank you for your input, i didnt know that.

And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582

spychodelics said:
I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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But the Mi 9T Pro has a Super Amoled screen which uses less power than just an Amoled screen, so that may make up for some loss of power from the chip.
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thanks for the info on the laser autofocus. I was wondering about that as the videos I've seen seem to indicate that the Mi 9T seems to have issues focusing in videos it's creating.

harry2543 said:
And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582
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Yes you are right. That's why the 30FPS vs the 60FPS.

The K20 pro is launching next month in India and they don't have a mi 9 so nothing to worry about from Xiaomi's part
However the global market has a mi 9 which is just 3 months old. My guess is there'll be at least another 3 months wait for the pro varient.

Mi 9t pro is in 3 month an old phone. IMHO a Bad decision to release the non pro first.

Redmi K30 Pro Zoom achieve 120 on dxomark

Finally, Dxomark have a full review about us K30 Pro /Zoom. Yes, Zoom is not exactly the same as K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro, but almost the same (changing telephoto with macro and OIS)
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro-zoom-edition-camera-review/
No bad after all.
I agree that the ultra angle is the weakest point and that in night mode it could be squeezed a little more. Even so, it is surprising that if it were valued only in a still image, it could possibly be in the top 5.
I think that there is still room to earn the odd extra point with future updates, there are defects that are solvable by software, such as smoothing and loss of texture on some occasions, or even slightly improve the automatic parameters for the ultra-wide angle
In the video section the F2 Pro should lose some point due to the lack of OIS, but in its favor it must be said that EIS does an exceptional job
What do you think?

Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores

I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?

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Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
Aremeyr said:
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.

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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Ofc it matters who is behind cam but my opinion is that software is most important in cameras. Google is good for that. You can put what camera sensors you want and what photographer to use it but if software is ****, results are ****. And nowadays its very often that normal users are testing the software but i must say that if you clean lens and its sunny day, and you take photo with poco f2 pro, you get very sharp results. but let see what gcam brings in future..
EDIT: stock cam i mean, please take shots and compare it. Gcam is not better? zoom and look details..

Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.

Gcam on K30 Ultra?
ok, so K30 Pro Zoom scored high, has OIS, and has the 865 which means it should be able to use Gcam if I can source the Zoom version of the phone? But the K30 Ultra has Mediatek 1000, which means no Gcam right?

Vihru said:
Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
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IMHO, it seems that stock camera is a bit bluffed by the darker zones of the centre, while the Gcam seems more indifferent to that zones.
This can happen also on SLR cams.

Urnyx is now making a crowd funding to get a poco F2 and improve his Gcam.

Theliels said:
Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate

elmonch said:
OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
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I love Nightshots, and i have a huge gallery with only night/Sky shots. I assure you that it has nothing to envy to the "premium" range terminals. In fact, for me, in night photography (on this device) there is only one small problem, and that is that the glass that protects the lenses is very prone to causing flares when you have a couple of bright light sources and you place one of them in the center. Luckily it can be easily avoided the most time.
As a note, the vast majority of my night photos are handheld, using only the tripod with 2+ seg exposures, generally if I want to take astronomical, or more artistic photos in quiet environments

This doesn't mean much. The camera optimization is different amongst the Mi series, the Redmi series and the Poco series. It seems like the Redmi team did a good job on optimizing the camera on the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, unlike the Poco team on the Poco F2 Pro.