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I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
silent-circuit said:
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
KlausWillSeeYouNow said:
I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
http://www.dgl.ru/FileStorage/ARTIC...L_e1cdd890c4ca25f3b1783144918deb28_(8407).jpg
and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
OP, to you answer your question, this isn't possible. I run an android parts shop and we have torn down a D801, D802 and a VS980. I have a D802 myself and wanted the wireless charging ability. My technician said it wasn't possible, the wireless charging module from the VS980 has no place to connect to on a D80x board.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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Agreed. Something like: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Type-A-Micro...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51b4da088d
I actually did this recently to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I used a Note 2 Qi Receiver pad. I took my soldering iron and melted plastic casing away to expose 5V and GND where I soldered 2 beads for connection. I then fitted the Qi Pad over the beads and adjusted for a good connection. Added Double Sided tape and applied my Incipio Feather Case. When I removed the case, the double sided tape kept the Qi Pad on the case, where I permanently installed it.
I have the actual back plate cut in half to keep the camera whole sealed, but the battery and Qi pad is exposed. I basically built myself a Qi Charging Case. Remove the case and replace the back cover with a whole one, and it's gone.
Wireless Charging WAS a requirement for my next phone and luckily only the Verizon variant had it. I saw it as fate.
But conclusion is that just because the internal case doesn't have charging leads available, doesn't mean you can't make it happen. To pour salt in the wound, the Qi Charging works fantastic on the VZW model. I use it every day.
I really hope something comes up with this. I've got the ATT D800 and came from a Nokia Lumia 920 with Qi. I still have the Nokia charger and would LOVE to go back to it. I know some people say it's not important, but those are people who have not tried it yet.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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nismology said:
If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
SuperSport said:
My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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I hadn't read that yet. Sounds like they put the charging coil too close to the GPS antenna.
I've just ordered one off eBay: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261329370615
They're reasonable cheap so I figured I'd try it out and see how it performs. Not going to solder as of now though
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I have no problem with the GPS on Verizon... Acquire locks very fast as well.
anpan879 said:
You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
http://www.dgl.ru/FileStorage/ARTIC...L_e1cdd890c4ca25f3b1783144918deb28_(8407).jpg
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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I can't speak definitively, but from my experience the traces for those connections are on the same side as they're surface mounted.
I suppose not possible then....?
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I suppose not possible then....?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HI8JYFE
I have one now, but I haven't gotten in the charging pad to test it, yet.
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eagerly awaiting this
I ordered the official Samsung wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Clarified that wireless cover is official Samsung
xmacro said:
I ordered the wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
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I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
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I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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I am having similar issues using a Palm wireless charger I custom made. I believe the issue is the connection from the cover to the pins on the device next to the battery. I am going to try adjusting it. Also, putting the phone in power saving mode before wireless charging seems to help. Think it may have to do with the wireless charging coil not providing enough amps for the phone to keep up. Trying a different cable/wall charger may help.
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
I have a similar issue. I'm using the official Samsung S-View Wireless Charging Cover with the Nexus 5 wireless Charger. I get nothing when I put them together. I believe the output from the charger is around 2 amps and it works perfectly with my Nexus 5 (surprise, surprise...) Not sure why I don't get any response whatsoever...
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It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
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I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
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Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
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I think you may be right; it may well be the mats I have are just junk, both of them, unfortunately.
I opened up the back of the phone, and brushed off the wireless charging prongs, just to make sure they weren't dirty. Put cover back on, put otterbox commuter case back on.
Put it on the wireless charger, it cycles on/off again and again, about once per second. Take off the hard shell, leaving just the soft shell, and it cycles on/off about once every five seconds - that is, the interval actually got longer. Take off the soft shell, down to a naked phone, and works after cycling on/off about 5 times, then it settles down and stops cycling.
On another charger, the tilted qi charger, it'll charge if the phone is naked, but if I put even the soft shell of the Otterbox Commuter on it, it'll cycle a few times then just not charge at all.
I'm not sure this is a connection problem with the prongs, or a problem with the wire/charger. I think it has something to do with the field that the qi charger is generating. Since I don't know jack about the qi standard, can anyone tell me if all qi fields are equal? That is, do higher quality qi chargers produce a larger or strong field than cheap units?
Like I said in the OP, these are all very cheap chargers, $15 at most, and I'm wondering if that may be the cause.
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I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
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I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
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Interesting, so could the problem be due to just using a cheap generic? Seems that the cheap ones may be generating a smaller or weaker field?
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
xmacro said:
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
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it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
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it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
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Ya learn something new everyday - thanks for the info
I am purchasing a Galaxy S5 next week and I am looking at the wireless chargers as that is the main reason I am upgrading my S3 in the first place. I have read that once placed on the charger the screen will read "wireless Charging" What I am wanting to know is if the phone is still on and if my wireless hotspot will continue to work in wireless charge mode?
macmovr said:
I am purchasing a Galaxy S5 next week and I am looking at the wireless chargers as that is the main reason I am upgrading my S3 in the first place. I have read that once placed on the charger the screen will read "wireless Charging" What I am wanting to know is if the phone is still on and if my wireless hotspot will continue to work in wireless charge mode?
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Hi ! Your S3 can already have wireless charging if u didn't know ^^
Your phone will still be on(screen off ofc), and for hotspot, I'm 99.9% sure it works while charging
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Safe0716 said:
Hi ! Your S3 can already have wireless charging if u didn't know ^^
Your phone will still be on(screen off ofc), and for hotspot, I'm 99.9% sure it works while charging
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I kind of thought the hotspot would still be active, on the other note I had no idea the s3 was wireless charging. does that mean all it needs is a pad to lie it on? Not sure if I understand?
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What I am wanting to know is if the phone is still on and if my wireless hotspot will continue to work in wireless charge mode?
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Yes it will. Or at least it does for me, so I don't see any reason it wouldn't for you as well. Your hotspot range may be reduced during wireless charging due to the RF interference, but if you had a strong signal before hand then you should be fine..
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I've noticed no loss in wifi, hotspot or 3g performance while wireless charging, and the S3 and S5 can both use the same charging pad because they both QI compatible.
~7 dB effective attenuation when wirelessly charging my S5
Inferred from the increased 802.11N PER in an adjacent Asus RT-N66U router.
And consistent with decreased data throughput.
PER calculated from Ethereal capture.
Sample size = 5 x 10^3 packets
PER (packet error rate) is 1-(0.999^N), where N is the number of bits in the data packet
N = 32
NF transmit output = +17 dBm
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I had no idea the s3 was wireless charging. does that mean all it needs is a pad to lie it on? Not sure if I understand?
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None of the S5 variants that I have seen will wirelessly charge by simply placing them on a charger. You need to add two things - the charger and a coil. The coil is the part that is inside the phone, a sort of receiver. The coil looks like a thick sticker and you can either buy an optional battery cover from Samsung that has a coil in it.. or add a third party coil to the inside of your existing battery cover. This is in contrast to say a Nexus phone where the coil is not optional - it is already built into all of the Nexus phones.
So it's odd to say that you are upgrading from a S3 to a S5 because of wireless charging.. when both the S3 and S5 need to have the same components added to add wireless charging. You seem to think that the coil is standard on S5's and it isn't.
Note that the optional Samsung wireless battery cover is thicker than the standard battery cover, which means that some cases will no longer fit your phone. And if you add a coil to the inside of the standard S5 battery cover, you need to choose a coil that is thin or you may displace the battery cover and lose the watertight seal.
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fffft said:
None of the S5 variants that I have seen will wirelessly charge by simply placing them on a charger. You need to add two things - the charger and a coil. The coil is the part that is inside the phone, a sort of receiver. The coil looks like a thick sticker and you can either buy an optional battery cover from Samsung that has a coil in it.. or add a third party coil to the inside of your existing battery cover. This is in contrast to say a Nexus phone where the coil is not optional - it is already built into all of the Nexus phones.
So it's odd to say that you are upgrading from a S3 to a S5 because of wireless charging.. when both the S3 and S5 need to have the same components added to add wireless charging. You seem to think that the coil is standard on S5's and it isn't.
Note that the optional Samsung wireless battery cover is thicker than the standard battery cover, which means that some cases will no longer fit your phone. And if you add a coil to the inside of the standard S5 battery cover, you need to choose a coil that is thin or you may displace the battery cover and lose the watertight seal.
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Thanks for straightening that out for me. Now I understand. Yes I am upgrading from a s3. I knew nothing about wireless charging until recently. Guess I need to get my nose into these boards more often. I am a road warrior and ran into usb port issues on my s3 in Denver a few months ago. I panic because I couldn't charge my phone, so I went to the closest 3rd party phone repair store and they sold me an extra battery and a external charger. That worked great but the fact that I had to swap batteries 2-3 times a day, left my phone without a case, and you know what happened next. So since my upgrade is tomorrow, it's time for a new phone and I am excited for the s5 anyway. Thanks again for the help,:good:
macmovr said:
I am excited for the s5 anyway. Thanks again for the help,:good:
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No doubt you will love the S5. It's a significant upgrade from the S3, which was already a very good phone in it's own right. Enjoy
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I've noticed that there are a few Qi charger options for the Note 3. You can opt for the full replacement back case, or you could get one of those charging elements that "pastes" onto the back of the battery.
The replacement cover has the added benefit of ensuring NFC communication doesn't suffer, but some of the "paste on" element options are now coming with prongs that allow access to the same functionality. The replacement cover is absurdly overpriced and adds a bit of thickness to the phone, while the little charging element costs only a couple dollars and fits with the stock back cover. I've also noticed that there is at least an option to purchase an 800ma charging element, which may offer faster charging cycles vs the OEM 600ma cover. 600ma is more common, though, so I do worry about overheating/lifespan-degradation.
Anyone have any input on this?
Hi, I initially bought a Choetech wireless charging kit which came with the wireless receiving and a charging pad for around $30 on amazon. It worked but it bulged the back of my case.
Eventually I bought the Samsung wireless charging cover from best buy for $20. That's what I've been using with the Choetech pad. Works really well. I stopped using the receiver because I didn't like the bulge and also because I noticed that unless I had the phone lined up precisely the phone wouldn't charge. I would occasionally wake up to a partially charge phone.
Also, when using the Choetech pad, I read that using a charger that provided more than 500 mAh will cause the phone to heat up. So, I switched my charger from one that provided 1,000 mAh to one that only provides 500 mAh and noticed the phone is never warm when I pick it up in the morning. Hope that helps.
Thanks for responding!
I can see how some of the add-on charging receivers could make the case bulge. I don't think that's the case with all of them, though. This one seems like it was made for the Note 3. It also doesn't block NFC usage, which is great!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item2333d60e9a
Hard to beat that price!
Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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I don't have priv yet, but planning to buy one in a few days. These are the wireless chargers I was looking at:
1) Anker
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_5&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
2) Spigen
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_6&smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5
3) MoKo
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_7&smid=A2VT4H683M5NNA
4) Choetech
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_8&smid=A1NCVKF8LXGAA9
#3 has AC adapter included, but that is about it. I want it to be like a stand, so it will be easier to see what if I get a text, call...
Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!
dmband64 said:
Not sure if you bought one yet, but I've had mine for a few days and I can tell you the wireless chargers that will work well with this will be a select few. It seems the coil in the PRIV is near the very bottom of the back, so chargers like the spigen listed above (Which I have and use with my Nexus 7 LTE) don't work well at all. It continuously connects and disconnects because the coil is so low on the PRIV that it doesn't line up well. I also have the most recent Samsung QI charger that I got for my Note 5, and that one actually works pretty well because you can set the PRIV on it towards the very bottom of the device. Another example is trying to us the Nexus QI charging orb, which the PRIV won't work well with because putting it on there so close to the bottom causes the device to fall over the top because it's top heavy. So long story short a pad or flat surface charger will most likely be best as it allows you to position the device properly. Hopefully this helps!
PS: This is the best device I've had in a long time, and I've owned most current and past flagships. Reminds me of my days on webOS with my Palm Pres...but a million times better!
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My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
By the way, have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen?
Charkatak said:
My Priv is arriving tomorrow I will use your recommendation when I will be buying wireless charger... It is just when using the pad, the device is laying down instead of being vertical so I could see and read messages...
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Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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dmband64 said:
Yeah I like the stand up chargers as well so I can view things while working. Let me know if you find a good one that works well.
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I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.
Charkatak said:
I just asked users on amazon if some of the chargers do work well with Priv. Will reply here if I get any answer. Have you tried to put your Priv in landscape on the wireless charger such as spigen? The reason I asked is because I read that some user had issues with some phones which would disconnect/re-connect, but when placed horizontally on the charger, all was well.
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Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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dmband64 said:
Yes it does wort of work. The problem is that the coil is so low on the Priv that it falls of when trying to put it on there horizontal. Same with the Nexus orb. It's kind of annoying. One solution with the spigen is to put something under the priv when it's on there horizontal so it meets up with the higher coil as the spigen has three coils.
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I saw 2 different Samsung chargers on amazon... Do you know the samsung charger's model # that you have described in one of your replies?
This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger
dmband64 said:
This is the one I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-PG...1450725284&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+qi+charger
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Do you know if the main difference is the "fast charging" and if Priv might benefit from the below charger vs yours?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Fast-...8755&sr=1-9&keywords=samsung+wireless+charger
As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.
dmband64 said:
As far as I know the PRIV is not compatible with Fast Wireless Charging, but I'm not sure. The issue is simply the placement of the PRIV's wireless coil in the back of the phone. It's nearly at the very bottom of the phone so it doesn't align well with some wireless chargers. Most phones have the coil in the middle of the back.
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Looks like Fast Charging is for samsung phones. I found couple of interesting chargers which are vertical:
1) http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
2) http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-Wireles...636&sr=8-6&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
I think I would get the first one....
Anyone tried the Samsung wireless charger? I was trying with the Samsung wireless charger for S6 but it doesn't work...
Just found out my device is STV100-3 which doesn't support wireless charging.... Darn darn darn..... Ahhhhhhhhh
It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.
dmband64 said:
It should work with any QI wireless charger, assuming you have a model with wireless charging built in.
UPDATE: Contrary to my previous posts...the spigen charger referenced in this thread DOES work with the PRIV. I tried it again last night with a different cable and charger and it does work perfectly. It must have been an issue with the cable and charger I was using with it previously not providing enough voltage or something. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Also, I can confirm it does work with the Samsung chargers, but the PRIV's coil is at the very bottom so you have to line up the very bottom of the phone onto the charger. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the update!
Moko Standup Charger
My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
EDIT: I made shim (out of cardboard for now) to raise the phone up in the Moko dock by 1/2 inch. It charged to 100% for the first time! The phone is still pretty warm (about 94 degrees F) but that might be the way all of the Qi chargers work.
watsys said:
My priv has the official blackberry leather flip case, and I'm only interested in chargers that work with the phone in the case.
I just got the Moko stand up Qi charger a few days ago and it does NOT work reliably with the Priv in a case. It seems to work some of the time, but the night before last it charged to 60% and stopped. It's pretty easy to reproduce this behavior since it's never charged to 100%. One strange thing is that even when it only charged to 60%, it's pretty warm between the Priv and the stand. I know lipo lifetime is accelerated with heat, so I don't think using this, even if charges to 60% is a great idea..
I have a cheap square samsung charger that seems to work better, but you have to find the sweet spot.
I'm still looking for one that is 100%. Eventually, I want two, one for my desk and one for my car (air vent) but I'm definitely not going to try the Moko car version.
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After I got my Priv, I am leaning towards this one, but have yet to decide:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Miko...636&sr=8-5&keywords=vertical+wireless+charger
84281227 said:
Just about to get my Priv (FINALLY!), buying stuffs to armor it up - quick chargers, cases etc..
So here is the question: as there is no official wireless charger for Priv, which 3rd-party wireless charger available is best for it?
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This Meenova wireless charging dock is another choice -- adjustable, drop & charge.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimus-Wireless-Charging-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B014QZCFOS/ref=sr_1_8?m=A3UZZ0M53CX865&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1452182613&sr=1-8
Why BB want to have two versions? One with wireless and one w/o.........
US users are more privileged, while others over the other half of the world are not as privileged? :crying: