Firstly hello i am new to the forum
i have been searching the web about this ever since i purchased my android head unit (about a week ago) as i have issues i cant seem to get my head around.
The unit is branded up as XONRICH (CHINESE UNIT) its running oreo 8.1
i previously had the same unit in my other car with no issues how ever was running 7.1 android - the settings seem alot more accessible on the 7.1
so here are my issues if anyone could shed some light on this
1- The time when i set to automatic it is one hour fast even when set to time zone london
2 - the canbus keep forgetting the head unit and not working to turn on and off with key ,reverse cam loss and steering controls - all works again after reset - i here you can set canbus to 0 or faint to amend ?
3 i cant access factory settings to play with any of the above as it is not even listed in the menu ..
4. i can not seem to change the boot logo to a personalized upload
Hello, I have all those problem too with android 8.1 and also :
5 - cannot find accessibility settings to approved some apps like maps navigation or any app required to accept service (error service google play)
6 - brightness app is always automatic at boot (even if I untick auto)
I'm starting to think it's a bad deal
ric69 said:
Hello, I have all those problem too with android 8.1 and also :
5 - cannot find accessibility settings to approved some apps like maps navigation or any app required to accept service (error service google play)
6 - brightness app is always automatic at boot (even if I untick auto)
I'm starting to think it's a bad deal
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me too ... i am sorry to hear you are having the same issues ... i do feel if i could access the factory settings i could probably fix most issues
is your unit also xonrich?
i was wondering if it is possible to flash 7.1 software on to the unit as it is so so much better to use
the manual they send does not match the 8.1 software it is for 7.1 as ive had both units maybe if we could lay our hands on an 8.1 based manual this would help ?
Yes it's bad story, my unit has no name :laugh: I posted here this morning :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...units/8227l-android-unit-8-1-chinese-t3905535
It's incredible to not find any combination to reboot into recovery, I tried all I think
The only acces is MCU Update but without any update ... it's difficult
I have instructions.pdf in system, but there is nothing very important
Mine loses qualizer settings if o turn of car or if i change volume
I am sorry to hear your issues . Maybe this brand unit is not ready for Android 8.1. I am owning ATOTO A6 Pro. It works great even though it is Android 6.0.
Mine is same through seicane website
I found a you tube video
sebwillcocks said:
Firstly hello i am new to the forum
i have been searching the web about this ever since i purchased my android head unit (about a week ago) as i have issues i cant seem to get my head around.
The unit is branded up as XONRICH (CHINESE UNIT) its running oreo 8.1
i previously had the same unit in my other car with no issues how ever was running 7.1 android - the settings seem alot more accessible on the 7.1
so here are my issues if anyone could shed some light on this
1- The time when i set to automatic it is one hour fast even when set to time zone london
2 - the canbus keep forgetting the head unit and not working to turn on and off with key ,reverse cam loss and steering controls - all works again after reset - i here you can set canbus to 0 or faint to amend ?
3 i cant access factory settings to play with any of the above as it is not even listed in the menu ..
4. i can not seem to change the boot logo to a personalized upload
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Watch "how to enter into the factory settings Android 8.1 Car DVD GPS radio player" on YouTube
Go to YouTube and type in what is in qoutes. Pomah is the channel
Radio
Mgchata said:
Watch "how to enter into the factory settings Android 8.1 Car DVD GPS radio player" on YouTube
Go to YouTube and type in what is in qoutes. Pomah is the channel
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I also own an Xonrich unit and the only problem I have is that when the radio tuner is working, the audios of other applications, for example radar announcers, do not sound, but if I turn off the tuner or put another audio source, including internet radio, TuneIn for example, these radar announcements are perfectly heard. The only thing they don't hear is with the radio tuner working.
I could not find the appropriate configuration to achieve it.
regards
Help and additional problems
sebwillcocks said:
Firstly hello i am new to the forum
i have been searching the web about this ever since i purchased my android head unit (about a week ago) as i have issues i cant seem to get my head around.
The unit is branded up as XONRICH (CHINESE UNIT) its running oreo 8.1
i previously had the same unit in my other car with no issues how ever was running 7.1 android - the settings seem alot more accessible on the 7.1
so here are my issues if anyone could shed some light on this
1- The time when i set to automatic it is one hour fast even when set to time zone london
2 - the canbus keep forgetting the head unit and not working to turn on and off with key ,reverse cam loss and steering controls - all works again after reset - i here you can set canbus to 0 or faint to amend ?
3 i cant access factory settings to play with any of the above as it is not even listed in the menu ..
4. i can not seem to change the boot logo to a personalized upload
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Hi.
I also have some issues with the time on the unit being one hour fast, but after it's been on for a minute or two and GPS is fixed the time changes to the correct time.
Where did you buy your canbus for the unit? I have a Volvo V70 '04 which I want the steering wheel buttons to work with.
I'm also having trouble with the Bluetooth option missing in the settings list. Its only possible to pair the unit with Bluetooth trough the phone pair function on the unit. I really want to pair my OBD2 adapter to my unit but am unable to do so when there is no Bluetooth menu.
Is there a possible way to add this function to the unit trough a software upgrade or such?
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I'm so glad I've found this forum. My hope was gone but now I've seen so many experienced users I think there might be a solution!
What's happening:
Needed to turn off battery to instal HU. Car date went back to 2-1-2013 12:00PM. When I change the date in the HU, after the minute changes, it goes back to 2-1-2013 12:01PM (because one minute has passed).
Probably the unit is not being able to send CAN commands to the car? Even tough all steering wheel commands still work with new HU.
With the wrong date I cannot use any applications (Chrome, Waze, Facebook, Spotify, Google Maps). And ClockSync only works in root (my unit isn't rooted, I've already tried using KingRoot but it didn't worked).
The second problem is that I've messed up with the factory settings to get the unit to send sound to speakers, and now when I put the gear in reverse, it just shows the radar in the display, the reverse camera stopped showing (it used to show before setting factory settings to default).
Sorry for so many questions, but I'm a beginner to Android and here in Brazil no one has ever seen these Android HU. (My model is CA380-XLA HD from Caska, and they have a ****ty customer support)
No answer yet.
I discovered a few things: the HU time and date is determined by the cars ECU date (it's a 2012 Hyundai IX35).
When I was installing the HU I had to unplug the car battery and the ECU was reset, going back to 2013. The Hyundai GDS (ECU scan tool) wasn't able to set the car date and time.
The time sync options in Android are "frozen" in "don't sync". So my plans are to use Clocksync after rooting the unit.
I've tried to root the HU with many self-contained APKs with no success.
When trying to root with a computer, there's no "developer menu", so I hit the kernel version three times to enable developer mode and it said it was already in that mode. Still no menu showing up, no "enable usb debug" option, so when I plug the USB cable, no device is detected, making me unable to root that way.
Please, any suggestions? I've paid $500 for installation and $2100 for this HU that just doesn't work.
XTRONS Android 8.0 Octa Core 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM Multimedia DVD Player with 8" Display Custom Fit for Volkswagen | Seat | Skoda
I think you forgot to write your question or complaint about your cheap chinese car radio.
Pretty much what I am looking at just a universal double din.
Ask for this unit
I want to ask for this unit have a equalaizer and how band if have and have a sub woofer control level.?anyone know something because the official company don't know hi hi:Π
Yes have a equalaized band FM ,AM
Thank u for ur reply but me I ask is not for this band am fm but the equaliser band areas and the other questions is have a sub control level me old unit eonon ga6153f have this u know to tell me? Thanks.
I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
crl0901 said:
I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
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Did a firmware update which was provided by Xtrons support, and also there's an issue with Tasker if you have Tasker automatically start your hotspot when it detects your phone connecting to the unit's bluetooth. You need to install an additional Tasker plugin to fix this, it's called "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control".
I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
XavierRavenberg said:
I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
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Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
crl0901 said:
Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
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I think I will put all apps I want to run on startup on the first tab then. Even tasker doesn't boot at startup/wake up.
Which firmware do you run now?
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
VoRtAn_MaDgE said:
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
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I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
I'm thinking of getting one of these. What is the boot time?
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Rvnbrg said:
I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
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If you really want to improve your DAB+ you got to find your antenna amplifier in your car and it should look like this... https://www.kufatec.de/shop/media/images/popup/DAB-Antennensplitter-fuer-VW-Golf-7.jpg it fits almost in every Volkswagen/Audi/Seat or Skoda
If so, you have to swap your FM amplifier with a DAB+/FM amplifier, i know Calearo ain't cheap but is european made and it works really well in my car, and i had to install a sharkfin antenna to receive DAB+ and GPS because i had no other option. (sorry for the many adjusted posts, technical problems)
Want to upgrade my android 4.4 MTCB - I use Tomtom as navigation. The PB88UNVP is interesting as is had 4GB RAM. I've read android 8 units have problems with the 3D navigation of Tomtom. Is there a known fix for Tomtom, or is it possible to install Android 7 on this device (don't know if there's a (custom) ROM that works with this device).
ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
Highwaymaniac said:
ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
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yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
veriluxxxx said:
yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
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Thanks for your reaction. I also received the download link for this update. MCU 2.88_3 and Android image with build date 20180703.
I installed this update this morning. Checked the wipe everything' option to be sure to have a clean install.
Had the wifi not connecting 2 times today with the new update
I've not noticed the speed collapsing. I did download navigation maps (couple of GB) without problems. When the Wifi does function it functions well, the next time the system wakes up from sleep it's an about 50% chance it functions.
Have you tried downloading the speed test app to test?
I installed two different models of Joyings newest PX5-based head units. Both are the 7 inch screen 4GB RAM / 32GB flash double DIN model with flat buttons on the left edge.
Please note that as of May 2018, there appear to be multiple new 4GB / 32GB Joying head units have different internal hardware and are not compatible with each other or with the PX5 2GB Joying head units.
JY-UM128N4PX5 is a QD unit
JY-UO128P4 appears to be an FYT unit
Buyer beware. My recommendation is AVOID the QD based units and seek out the FYT units.
See below for more details.
The following information is for JY-UM128N4PX5. Further down the page is information for JY-UO128P4.
=============== JY-UM128N4PX5 =================
Came with Android 8.0.0 installed.
APP Version TP6735 0.0.65
MCU Version TP6735 4.40
Kernel Version 4.4.103
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
So far I have noticed the following:
The unit does not trigger the amplifier turn on signal wire - the orange and black wire labeled AMP-CONT always measures zero volts on my voltmeter. Workaround is to use either the antenna signal wire, or the ACC power signal wire, to turn on your amp. Joying is aware of this issue.
Sleep does not work. The unit shuts down completely about one minute after you turn off the vehicle's ignition. It doesn't sleep and then come back on instantly like my Intel-based Joying unit. Boot time is about 20 seconds. Joying support now says that sleep is not supported on the QD units.
I cannot find the radio settings in the new radio app. You used to be able to slide the bar at the bottom of the radio app to get to settings. Now in Android 8, there are a couple of radio settings that have been moved to the main android setup dialog.
Some of the functionality of the former car settings app has been moved to the android settings dialog. But not everything is there - for example this is where I was looking for the ability to tell the unit to toggle the amplifier signal wire. I could not find any such setting.
AM radio reception is non-existent - static on all AM channels.
FM reception is good, but I cannot figure out how to get the FM Radio to enable display of song and station information - this used to be under RDS settings, which no longer exist.
Bluetooth calling works fine. Seems more stable than my older Intel-based unit.
Sound quality is good - I am using an external amplifier.
The logo set up is missing Porsche and Saab Logos. My Intel-based Joying unit had these. Easy enough to load my own custom logo.
The unit ships with Joying's "Launcher3" selected. On the home screen, the labels of the bottom row of icons are cut off. The screenshots on Joying's website show the same thing. The joying2 launcher is missing.
If you reflash the unit, the vertical keypad on the left side of the unit gets un-mapped and stops working. Fix is to go into car settings and remap it.
========================= JY-UO128P4 ==================
Android Version 8.0.0
Build Number px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007
System Info APP 1024x600 2018-04-27 21:42:36
MCU Version 2018-01-23 10:59:33 JY_(R68)_R-86C-096I-NC-NP-1.0-P12S
Passwords:
Factory settings: 3368
Developer Options: 3368
Reset: 3368
Password for changing Launcher:8086
Password for changing screen current:
So far I have noticed the following:
The software on the JY-UO128P4 is very close to that of my older Joying Intel based system.
The developer has replaced all of the system settings screens native to android with their own settings screens. Not super cool. All of the car settings and android system setting are now intermingled.
Upon unboxing, the JY-UO128P4 has only a single Wifi antenna wheras the JY-UM128N4PX5 had two (diversity) wifi antennas. I have not tried to compare reception differences.
The amplifier turn on signal now works as expected (AMP-CONT wire correctly signals 12V when unit is active)
Sleep works as expected
AM radio reception works weakly.
The FM radio application works as expected. Radio app settings are accessed within the radio app. It's possible to enable RDS for song and station ID within the radio app.
All of the joying launchers are available - I prefer launcher 02 and it's available on this unit.
Many more car logos are available on the system. Porsche logo was built-in.
The only things I've noticed so far that are worse with the JY-UO128P4 than the JY-UM128N4PX5
The unit suffers from the android 8.0 bug on Joying where all of your google contacts are deleted if you allow your account on the head unit to sync contacts with google.
As noted above - the native android settings panels are all removed.
The app for setting the color of the buttons on the side panel is limited to pre-determined solid colors - yellow, white, red green etc. On the JY-UM128N4PX5 you could select and set any RGB color, which made it possible to match the button illumination to your other dashboard lights.
As I learn more, I will post more.
ddruker said:
I just installed Joying's newest PX5 head unit. It's the 4GB model.
It came with Android 8.0.0 installed.
APP Version TP6735 0.0.65
MCU Version TP6735 4.40
Kernel Version 4.4.103
So far I have noticed the following problems:
The unit does not trigger the amplifier turn on signal wire - the orange and black wire labeled AMP-CONT always measures zero volts on my voltmeter. Workaround is to use either the antenna signal wire, or the ACC power signal wire, to turn on your amp. I found another post of someone else who had this same issue.
I cannot find most of the passwords needed to set up the unit. The master password is 126 - I found that by watching a joying video. But I cannot find the second level passwords for changing the logo, changing the launcher, etc. Anyone have the other passwords?
The utility to change the color of the buttons on the left side of the unit works, but the buttons do not illuminate one the unit is booted.
I cannot find the radio settings in the new radio app. You used to be able to slide the bar at the bottom of the radio app to get to settings. Now in Android 8, there are a couple of radio settings that have been moved to the main android setup dialog - but for example I cannot find a setting to turn on the functionality to identify song and station names.
Some of the functionality of the former car settings app has been moved to the android settings dialog. But not everything is there - for example this is where I was looking for the ability to tell the unit to toggle the amplifier signal wire. I could not find any such setting.
I cannot figure out how to change the launcher - with the default launcher the lower row of app icons is only half visible on the screen.
Who else has a new Joying Android 8 unit - what else are you seeing? Has anyone found solutions to the items above?
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I have had several back and forth emails with Joying support in the last couple of days.
They are trying to find the passwords for their new units under Android 8. Support didn't know. They had me try 00000 and 123456, neither of which worked. I told them the main password is 126 - they didn't know this either. I still need passwords for all of the second level settings - change the launcher, change the logo, see if there are more developer options for car config, etc.
They are apparently aware that the AMP-CONT lead to turn on the external amplifier does not work. They recommend connecting the accessory wire from your vehicle to the amp signaling wire instead, so the amp will turn on when you turn your key to the accessory or on position, bypassing the head unit.
They acknowledge there are no detailed settings available for the radio under Android 8 in the radio app. So there is no way to turn on station or channel ID for US customers.
I also let them know about another radio issue - FM Radio reception is normal, but AM reception is awful to non-existent.
Google maps is ok, directions from Google maps are mixing with other audio ok.
Feels like Android 8 on the new Joying 4GB units isn't quite ready for prime time yet... Has anyone tried to upgrade a 2GB Android 6 unit to Android 8 now that the Android 8 files are on Joying's website? Do you see the same behaviors, or am I seeing hardware issue with the brand new 4GB units? I suspect it's all software, but would be nice to know.
ddruker said:
Feels like Android 8 on the new Joying 4GB units isn't quite ready for prime time yet... Has anyone tried to upgrade a 2GB Android 6 unit to Android 8 now that the Android 8 files are on Joying's website? Do you see the same behaviors, or am I seeing hardware issue with the brand new 4GB units? I suspect it's all software, but would be nice to know.
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The 2GB units are not compatible with the 4GB units. They need different hardware drivers and different MCU firmware as the firmware in the 2GB units is from FYT. I forgot the manufacturer of the 4 GB units but @gtxaspec knows.
There is no downloadable firmware yet for the 2GB units.
hi, i've the same unit and the password was noted into the user manual, it's 3368.
If you buy Joying android 8.0 unit the SKU like:JY-UO135N4PX5 or JY-UOS03N4PX5,password as below:
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
TomTom
It seams to be so hard. Again an Android HU, where TomTom navigation does not work. It let's me download the maps, but after that it crashes every time I try to load the application.
I can confirm these passwords are correct:
Master password:126
Password for changing logo:0000
Password for changing UI:8086
Other findings so far:
The illuminated buttons do work - they sometimes take a few seconds to come on after your illumination wire signals with 12V.
The logo selection with this new unit does not include Porsche or Saab. You can still upload your own custom logos.
I updated the unit to the latest (2018-4-20) release on the Joying website which is supposed to include optimizations and Zlink and my unit is now hanging at the Android text logo (right after the animated Android logo). I sent a note to Joying support for help and will also wait for a few hours to see if it comes back to life.
ddruker said:
I can confirm these passwords are correct:
I updated the unit to the latest (2018-4-20) release on the Joying website which is supposed to include optimizations and Zlink and my unit is now hanging at the Android text logo (right after the animated Android logo). I sent a note to Joying support for help and will also wait for a few hours to see if it comes back to life.
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The same happened to me
After writing about 25 emails with Joying support I had to reflash the whole system ... loosing all my data.
For now I am really not going to try any more updates from Joying with this unit.
Really hoping for a Custom Rom & Root for this unit.
I have one of these as well. Any one find where the setting is to make the sleep mode last longer(2hrs) before it full shuts down? it seems to be locked on 30sec currently. Also it wont pair with my OBDlinkMX BT dongle. in the older MTCD units, making the BT password 1234 let you do it, but not here. anyone have any luck with BT OBD dongle pairing?
I was really leaning towards getting this unit but have been holding off because I wish it had Bluetooth 5.0, maybe I should wait a little longer since it seems to have a fair amount of bugs. I know a lot of people are happy with the Xtron since it has all the best features I just really prefer to have the buttons on the left like this unit has. Looking forward to seeing if you guys can get this squared away
peregrines said:
The same happened to me
After writing about 25 emails with Joying support I had to reflash the whole system ... loosing all my data.
For now I am really not going to try any more updates from Joying with this unit.
Really hoping for a Custom Rom & Root for this unit.
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I was able to get my unit working again by reflashing. It took about 10 tries with three different USB cards but it finally worked. Joying support provided a file that included a system image and a Window-based chinese language USB card writing programs, along with a word document with instructions. You build the USB drive and then plug it into the left hand USB connector, and click the reset button on the front of the unit. It loads, then tells you to remove the USB drive, and then if you are very lucky it will reboot into Android.
After re-flashing, the vertical keyboard on the left side of the unit did not work. Turned out the mappings had been erased. Fix is to remap the keys - there is an option in car settings.
Current issues still present in the unit seem to be:
Unit shuts off entirely after 30-60 seconds instead of sleeping when you turn off the vehicle. My intel-based unit sleeps for several days.
No AM radio reception - static on all channels.
No way to turn on song or station identification in the radio settings for FM.
AMP-cont signal wire does not work. I've worked around by wiring my accessory wire directly to my amp's signaling wire.
Have not tried Torque and Bluetooth ODBII reader pairing yet - on my list for this weekend.
So, it's not just me...
I purchased a JY-UM135N2PX5 (PX5 2G/16G) with Android 6.0 mid to late March.
I had it on my bench through April, testing and configuring it prior to install.
After trading emails with Joying tech support, I was sent an Android 8.0 update to address a Zlink/iPhone issue.
I started my install in the car today, and discovered "no sound". I guessed that the AMP-CONT wasn't turning on the OEM amplifier. I rechecked the cables, which checked out just fine. Tried a Joying JY-UM135N2 (Intel Sofia 2G/32G Android 6) on the same harness, and it functioned as expected (turned the OEM amplifier on and had sound). I took them both back to my bench and noticed that the "AMP-CONT" on the PX5 unit did not appear to have 12V on it, while the Sofia unit did.
I did not leave the non-functional PX5 unit in the car long enough to see any other issues.
I am curious if I were to revert back to Android 6 on the PX5 unit, if it would fix the AMP-CONT issue (at the cost of breaking the Zlink/iPhone functionality)
ddruker said:
I was able to get my unit working again by reflashing. It took about 10 tries with three different USB cards but it finally worked. Joying support provided a file that included a system image and a Window-based chinese language USB card writing programs, along with a word document with instructions. You build the USB drive and then plug it into the left hand USB connector, and click the reset button on the front of the unit. It loads, then tells you to remove the USB drive, and then if you are very lucky it will reboot into Android.
After re-flashing, the vertical keyboard on the left side of the unit did not work. Turned out the mappings had been erased. Fix is to remap the keys - there is an option in car settings.
Current issues still present in the unit seem to be:
Unit shuts off entirely after 30-60 seconds instead of sleeping when you turn off the vehicle. My intel-based unit sleeps for several days.
Poor AM radio reception
No way to turn on song or station identification in the radio settings.
AMP-cont signal wire does not work. I've worked around by wiring my accessory wire directly to my amp's signaling wire.
Have not tried Torque and Bluetooth ODBII reader pairing yet - on my list for this weekend.
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Would you be so kind as to share those files with us? This would be a good starting point for further testing and research. Simply upload to a hoster like mega.
z0rn said:
Would you be so kind as to share those files with us? This would be a good starting point for further testing and research. Simply upload to a hoster like mega.
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Here is a link to the zip file from Joying with the firmware image for reflashing, their USB drive utility, and instructions...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13HXHRRfuduhIYV41pjQlvsJ0o3xesNBC
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
ddruker said:
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
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Are they serious? I would suggest to try the Malaysk Rom, i guess your units are MTCD and MTCE devices so maybe this rom would support the missing software like rds and the other hardware not supported by Joying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvgrcn_As8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-malaysk-roms-px5-2-4-gb-8-0-android-t3762724
Good luck!
Flemischguy said:
Are they serious? I would suggest to try the Malaysk Rom, i guess your units are MTCD and MTCE devices so maybe this rom would support the missing software like rds and the other hardware not supported by Joying
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These units are NOT MTCD/E. Do not use the Malaysk ROM.
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ddruker said:
Here is the reply I got from Joying support this morning in regards to the open defects I am tracking with the unit. I suspect that all of this will get fixed in subsequent software releases, it's relatively obvious stuff. Can anyone confirm if these same issues exist in the Android 8 builds on Joying's 2GB PX5 head units, or are these unique to the newest 4GB units?
Dear friend,
Please noted :
1) sorry that your system is different with Intel head unit , it do not have fast boot feature . so it will completely off .
2) for the AM receptions is bad , you need to set the proper time and zone . also the radio area choice .
3) sorry, the head unit you purchased do not have the RDS setting .
4) for the am-cont not voltage , please connect the ACC (red wire ) to your amplifier wire . then can offer 12V .
Hope your noted .
Candy
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I have a 2GB Android version 8.0.0 unit, but my unit is a FYT based unit like the Sofia 3GRs, unlike yours which is a QD unit.
Mine does have fast-boot as my unit is a FYT based unit, using the same hardware/SOM as the Sogia 3GR intel units.
I never used AM-reception. I wouldn't know, but I know from previous users on Sofia 3GR that they also complained about the AM reception
Which RDS-setting? This is so confusing and so not concrete. RDS is a complete set of functions. The syu/FYT based software on the FYT based units support RDS-PS, RDS-PTY and RDS-TA/TP. The latest firmware versions on FYT units (Sofia 3GR and my PX5) also support RDS-RT. They do not support RDS-AF. They implemented "something" like AF. If you use that option it does not select the Alternate Frequency of your radio station, it selects the strongest signal it can find of any station. Note that it is the software. The radio chips in all these units support the complete RDS set of functions.
Don't know about the the amp-cont wire.
You ask about and mention AM and about RDS. I hope you know that RDS can only be used on the FM signal. RDS is not available for AM.
Help
Heres a link I need help to identify my android head unit
https://app.box.com/s/o90d0lnjrqqlek5w1q6lekaj5dgsa20y
Traww said:
Heres a link I need help to identify my android head unit
https://app.box.com/s/o90d0lnjrqqlek5w1q6lekaj5dgsa20y
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You have an Allwinner T3 chipset in your unit.
Do not use a Joying thread to ask a completely off-topic question.
I've received the same unit, facing the same issues as the OP.
Also the localisation in my language is quite poor.
surfer63 said:
These units are NOT MTCD/E. Do not use the Malaysk ROM.
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I've bought this unit in the hope that it would be compatible with custom ROMs.
Are you saying that the unit MCU is almost unknown and that no custom ROM would be available in the near future?
Hello guy`s
i have some issues with a 10.25" Android Navigation display i bought.
i also did some chat with the sellers but it seems their english is not very good...
From what i saw the system is the same PX6 System 2GB ram /32GB flash as sold for all other E Series BMW cars, only the additional mount is different.
Unfortunately i can`t attach pictures or extranal links yet, so i`m writing the Android spec here.
MCUVer: 023042bGS-CIC-HW7-190118[B1280_170325]
FrameworkVer: 8.1.0 OPM5.171019.019 eng.zxw.20181228.162012
AndroidVer: 8.1.0
AppVer: 2019030801_1280x480_970
Ram: 2G
1st "issue".
when booting the device it does display the Lockscreen, not directly the BMW GUI, i have to swipe to unlock the screen.
any way to change this to go directly into the GUI?
I haven`t found an option yet.
2nd. issue.
Bluetooth does not work like it`s meant to from an Android Device.
there is only a bluetooth menu at the BMW GUI, where i can search for Bluetooth devices and connect them.
the problem is now, it only does find other mobile phones, it does not find the original CIC, not a BT headset, also not a BT mouse or BT keyboard.
when i go to to normal android settings "connected devices" i don`t have an bluetooth option here.
the BMW configuration has set "WenqiangBC6" BT Module enabled.
I want to use an additional Tsumbay Ai01 controller, but i also can not connect this device.
is it possible to reenable the original Bluetooth option there, i think it only has been disabled ?
3rd issue.
It has been delivered with an additional "pseudo" Idrive controller that is directly connected to the Android screen.
the problem is, that the controller will always only work for about 30-60 seconds, then it will not respond anymore, i have to reconnect the controller to get it work for again 30-60 seconds.
does someone also has this controller and had such trouble , or a fix for this ?
4th "issue".
I`m using google maps as i lost the Igo Software because a "factory reset" has been made.
when doing navigation, half of the screen is consumed by grey (bottom) or green (top) surfaces including the Status bar.
is there any chance to change the visuals of google maps to look like Android Auto or at least to make the bars smaller oder disable automatically disable the status bar ?
i have found no option for this, also not for scaling, probably it`s also disabled ?
5th "issue".
the harness does have alot of "CAN" connectors, "CAN A" "CAN B" "CAN C" "CAN 1" "CAN 2".
there did came no description whith the device, does someone have a description of the harness ?
i already updated the cartype.xml and factory.xml to get ID6 back, but that does not help for the other issues.
i hope someone can help me at least with some of the issues
sincerely Chri
Hello
I was able to "solve" the 3rd issue, when the Android navigation is set between Car and original CIC-HU, the original CIC controller does work fine so the pseudo controller isn`t needed anymore
The only thing is that i found a new issue,
7th issue,
the Aux Autoswitch option does go to the wrong menu point.
so when selecting "Music" it does not switch to AUX.
I made a video to show the Start to unlock issue and the Auto AUX issue, maybe this will help
https ://youtu.be/ETWdRfly6PY
you need to remove the space after https
sincerely Chri
Hey Chris, I'm also Dutch and I'm seeing a lot of the same issues..
Doe you know the factory settings code to get in the factory menu?
Thanks!
Hi to all
I have the same unit i get it from AliExpress navifly
I had the same exact issues like chris i did a factory reset and eventually i lost everything i did something wrong and now i have the unit is infinite loading on android and it’s not turning on. I am wondering if someone can help me with this and by the way the factory reset code is 1314
Has anyone solved the bluetooth problem? I just want to load normal android on it to be honest. Their audio bluetooth and phone stuff is taking control somehow. I don't even care for it.
same problem with bootooth here. Not able to connect bluetooth device from other apps (OBD or Flitsmeister)
GertrudeHarolds said:
same problem with bootooth here. Not able to connect bluetooth device from other apps (OBD or Flitsmeister)
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meanwhile it`s a known common thing that Bluetooth is locked on this devices so only smartphones for playing music and do handsfree calling is possible, it is not possible to add other bluetooth devices like OBD dongles, mouse, keyboard ect.
Chri
Hello All,
There is much information on this forum which has helped me so far on this android head unit journey but I am almost at the position where I might throw the damn thing out of the window and reinstall the basic manufactures head unit.
I bought the head unit from a dealer who is no longer in business and cannot contact them which closes off the normal route for enquiry.
The headhunt appears to be a generic Chinese manufacturer. The config shows as:
MCU Ver: DH200729T512188X611200805
FrameWork: 9 PQ2A.190305.002 eng.work2.20201208.100955
Android Ver: 9
App Ver: 2020120801T_1280x480_970
Tablet: rkpx6
The bluetooth function has been disabled which was originally a problem when using an iPhone as you have to hotspot every time. I overcame this with a wifi dongle and 4G card.
The GPS is terrible as well (part of the problem is the number of high rises that shadow the road). One of the main reasons for upgrading was the navigation which I generally cannot use.
So I thought a CarLinkit adapter would solve all of my problems which it did - although I get horrible screen interference that makes the unit completely unusable. The interference is completely random and CarLinkit have said that the problem is the head unit and not the adapter.
I've removed the adapter now and have to use my phone for navigation which works but doesn't solve the problem I originally tried to solve.
I seem to remember that the android version was originally ver 8 and it appears to have upgraded itself to version 9. When I play music know it takes about 2 minutes for the sound to come out of the speakers (even though the music appears to be playing). It only happens on the first boot of the head unit.
I'm currently banging my head against a wall with this technology and it appears that updating and not knowing exactly what you are doing could brick the system.
So my questions boil down to:
a) are my carlinkit issues really related to the head unit?
b) why would sound be delayed by 2 minutes after the unit has started?
c) what is the latest software I can apply to this head unit?
d) is there a better unit that I can install that will be much more reliable out of the box? there appears to be other head units available although I need a RHD option which many of the sellers on AliExpress saying isn't available.
Hopefully, I can gain some experience from others on this forum.
Thanks in advance,
DC
hk_fooey said:
Hello All,
There is much information on this forum which has helped me so far on this android head unit journey but I am almost at the position where I might throw the damn thing out of the window and reinstall the basic manufactures head unit.
I bought the head unit from a dealer who is no longer in business and cannot contact them which closes off the normal route for enquiry.
The headhunt appears to be a generic Chinese manufacturer. The config shows as:
MCU Ver: DH200729T512188X611200805
FrameWork: 9 PQ2A.190305.002 eng.work2.20201208.100955
Android Ver: 9
App Ver: 2020120801T_1280x480_970
Tablet: rkpx6
The bluetooth function has been disabled which was originally a problem when using an iPhone as you have to hotspot every time. I overcame this with a wifi dongle and 4G card.
The GPS is terrible as well (part of the problem is the number of high rises that shadow the road). One of the main reasons for upgrading was the navigation which I generally cannot use.
So I thought a CarLinkit adapter would solve all of my problems which it did - although I get horrible screen interference that makes the unit completely unusable. The interference is completely random and CarLinkit have said that the problem is the head unit and not the adapter.
I've removed the adapter now and have to use my phone for navigation which works but doesn't solve the problem I originally tried to solve.
I seem to remember that the android version was originally ver 8 and it appears to have upgraded itself to version 9. When I play music know it takes about 2 minutes for the sound to come out of the speakers (even though the music appears to be playing). It only happens on the first boot of the head unit.
I'm currently banging my head against a wall with this technology and it appears that updating and not knowing exactly what you are doing could brick the system.
So my questions boil down to:
a) are my carlinkit issues really related to the head unit?
b) why would sound be delayed by 2 minutes after the unit has started?
c) what is the latest software I can apply to this head unit?
d) is there a better unit that I can install that will be much more reliable out of the box? there appears to be other head units available although I need a RHD option which many of the sellers on AliExpress saying isn't available.
Hopefully, I can gain some experience from others on this forum.
Thanks in advance,
DC
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Any android head unit with less than 2GB RAM will be a dead zone to run apps or the OS. Apps crash a lot and OS doesn't perform well. I am not sure about your head unit's RAM capacity.
Alternatively, I would suggest uninstalling/disabling the apps that you don't really require through system settings >> apps