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Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.
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Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.
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Thanks for the feedback, I also have an S7 and on the verge of selling to buy either the note 4 or the redmi pro. I know it will generally be a downgrade especially in terms of camera as nothing can touch the S7. But it seems a great device and would let me free up some cash. The redmi pro seems to have a better camera than the RN4 although a bit gimmicky with its dual cams, but both pack nice builds and big batteries. Although I think the RN4's finger print scanner looks better and is in a better location, I'm not really that impressed with the S7's as it still needs to be pushed and isn't that accurate. How do you find audio quality over say a pair of headphones compared to the S7?
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gsmyth said:
Thanks for the feedback, I also have an S7 and on the verge of selling to buy either the note 4 or the redmi pro. I know it will generally be a downgrade especially in terms of camera as nothing can touch the S7. But it seems a great device and would let me free up some cash. The redmi pro seems to have a better camera than the RN4 although a bit gimmicky with its dual cams, but both pack nice builds and big batteries. Although I think the RN4's finger print scanner looks better and is in a better location, I'm not really that impressed with the S7's as it still needs to be pushed and isn't that accurate. How do you find audio quality over say a pair of headphones compared to the S7?
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Very loud, and decently clean and crisp too. There seems to be some decent audio equipment on this thing, both speakers and headphone, and I suspect there may be a discrete DAC on this, impressive for a $200 device. I went for the RN4 over the Pro for one reason and one reason only: there is an official global ROM out for this phone, while the Pro would require me to install GP package through a third-party solution.
I can definitely say that the FPS is way better on the back. Very accurate, and as long as I don't give it some super-weird angle it authenticates me without fail, quicker and more accurately than the S7.
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Very loud, and decently clean and crisp too. There seems to be some decent audio equipment on this thing, both speakers and headphone, and I suspect there may be a discrete DAC on this, impressive for a $200 device. I went for the RN4 over the Pro for one reason and one reason only: there is an official global ROM out for this phone, while the Pro would require me to install GP package through a third-party solution.
I can definitely say that the FPS is way better on the back. Very accurate, and as long as I don't give it some super-weird angle it authenticates me without fail, quicker and more accurately than the S7.
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Great that's good to hear, I assumed there was a global rom for the pro but must have been something else I seen. I had a feeling the finger print scanner was better, I do find the S7's quite fussy and a lot of times I exceed the try limit and have to wait 30 secs[emoji34].
I really do appreciate the camera on the S7, although from the reviews I've watched the RN4 seems to have very quick auto focus and capture speeds. It obviously seems to suffer in low light but no phone is immune from this really only to lesser extents. I generally take most photos outside in good conditions anyway and usually of the kids where a quick shutter is needed. The camera app also seems fast to launch as well which again is an important to be able to snap photos quickly.
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Wich rom are you using? Do you root it?
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Great that's good to hear, I assumed there was a global rom for the pro but must have been something else I seen. I had a feeling the finger print scanner was better, I do find the S7's quite fussy and a lot of times I exceed the try limit and have to wait 30 secs[emoji34].
I really do appreciate the camera on the S7, although from the reviews I've watched the RN4 seems to have very quick auto focus and capture speeds. It obviously seems to suffer in low light but no phone is immune from this really only to lesser extents. I generally take most photos outside in good conditions anyway and usually of the kids where a quick shutter is needed. The camera app also seems fast to launch as well which again is an important to be able to snap photos quickly.
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Fingerprint scanner really is great. Worlds better than the S7. Location isn't always ideal for when the phone is on a table top, but it is great when pulling the phone out of the pocket. I suspect that the only way to solve this is give people two Fingerprint scanners
Camera launches quickly and focus is reliable. Better than my 2014 Moto X ever was. Shutter is not as fast as the reviews make it out to be, but that may be because I have HDR on Auto, and HDR photos do take a while to process. Outside photos are reasonably crisp, inside the noise starts to become uncontrollable. Remember to go to Settings and select image quality "High" and enable "Enhance lowlight pictures automatically" when you get this phone. Hugely important, as the default Medium setting is too aggressive in compressing.
AB__CD said:
Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.
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I have been using RN4 for 2 weeks. And I do agree most of the views.
1. Battery: it seems not that good if you care about the numbers. But the overall performance is pretty good. Playing some 3d games with performance for an hour costs less than 10%.
2. CPU: I don't think this is a big leap as I can't from Nexus 5. The performance is not overkill. And I don't feel anything is super smooth. I guess the reason is that 10 cores are still to much for an Android system to operate with. I doubt the kernel fully utilizes the CPU.
3. Camera: don't expect much on it even though they claimed it's 16MP. The quality is quite glitchy in my opinion. If you really care about the quality of the camera on your phone, consider carefully. Despite the quality, the speed is fine as the focus, HDR and burst mode work perfectly fine.
4. MIUI: I just want a CM. That's it.
5. Price: this is the most pulling reason for me to buy this. You can just switch to a new one if this breaks somehow. :laugh:
Hello.
My name is Gabriel, from Romania.
I have a redminote 4 since 25 october 2016.
Since yesterday it doesn't display, in the upper right corner, the icon for mobile data - you know, the H, or H+, or 4G or 3G, next to mobile network signal icon.
The mobile data connection is working good, but the fact that the phone is connected to mobile data is not displayed any more.
Is there any setting for this?
Thanks.
Gabriel Sbircea said:
Hello.
My name is Gabriel, from Romania.
I have a redminote 4 since 25 october 2016.
Since yesterday it doesn't display, in the upper right corner, the icon for mobile data - you know, the H, or H+, or 4G or 3G, next to mobile network signal icon.
The mobile data connection is working good, but the fact that the phone is connected to mobile data is not displayed any more.
Is there any setting for this?
Thanks.
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Did you solve this? Are you on the global rom?
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No.
I had the intention to perform a factory reset during this weekend, but I didn't, I was too busy with other things.
And yes, is the Global ROM - I have Romanian language (not only...)
Thanks.
Gabriel Sbircea said:
No.
I had the intention to perform a factory reset during this weekend, but I didn't, I was too busy with other things.
And yes, is the Global ROM - I have Romanian language (not only...)
Thanks.
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A factory reset is probably the best option take first although it is a pain having to backup/ set everything up again.
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 video review
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 video review
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Thanks will watch this later.
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Did you solve this? Are you on the global rom?
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Hello
I have black screen with my Redmi Note 4 but led of charge work have you some ideas how can i solve this issue?
Thanks
2 weeks here...
I bought the Redmi Note 4 - S625 32 GB version as a replacement for another phone from another vendor, my old phone had the same hardware configuration, but was greatly lagging on performance, battery life and customization.
I have long decided on the Redmi, and have gone through several resources and reviews online, and was so far satisfied with what I read.
I was able to buy it at a discounted price in Egypt (USD 160), this is of course not a bargain for the global price, yet locally it was good compared to other similar devices.
I'll go through every aspect of my experience with the phone and provide you with my conclusion in the end.
The phone comes in a small box compared to other phones of the same size, the phone fits in exactly, with the charger and the charging cable, the extra space could've been better used to add earphones to the bundle, something Xiaomi should consider in the future, is to throw in one of their premium earphones.
The phone size is slim and nice to hold, something that counts for it, considering the huge 4100mA battery, I was unfortunate to buy the black edition, which is very prone to fingerprints and you can never keep it clean, let alone it also seemed scratch prone, I didn't want to risk it therefore the first thing I had to do was to go for a silicon cover.
Also the screen glass is clear with smooth edges, and gives the phone a very elegant look, yet I read it's not gorilla glass, so I had to go for a glass screen protector.
The screen is large enough with some bevel edges that could be improved in the future.
The dual SIM slot is an amazing idea, yet with a bit of better design I guess we can squeeze in a place for a memory card.
The camera and fingerprint sensor are very well placed and nice to use, having the camera non-protruding is a good design point, protecting the camera cover from scratches.
I don't mind the camera being 13MP, it has a clear quality, works well with the camera app, and is quiet responsive, I've seen cameras with higher resolution, but were a pain to operate, so good job Xiaomi.
The screen is clear and pleasant to use, I have even use it to watch movies using a VR box with no problems, it is also quiet visible in the sun with bright colors.
One thing I really liked about this phone, is its battery life, I guess Xiaomi went to great effort to squeeze much power into the battery space, and to optimize the power use by applications, clearly there is a power optimization software layer added to the OS to perform this well, I am a heavy user, having the phone in hand all day with the screen on, reading, watching videos, and streaming internet videos and music in the car all day, using maps and GPS applications, and acting as a Wi-Fi hotspot. Still at night, before sleeping, I plug the charger while the phone is at 40%, keeping me assured that even if I forget to charge the phone, it will remain there for another day of moderate use. BATTERY LIFE ON THIS PHONE IS AMAZING.
I have seen people complain that it doesn’t have a fast charging capability, yet it's no problem with a phone that can withhold its charge for two days.
The good thing about this phone is that it has all connectivity features of other similar phones, except for the NFC, which is becoming a defacto nowadays, though the FM radio is good and launches without any headphone connected, however the lack of RDS is a bit annoying, in addition to the fact that the radio interface is boring and non-themeable, I have posted this suggestion in the MIUI forum.
Software performance on this phone is amazing, and the dual app capability is extra nice, it is better than having the second space activated, specially with the availability of individual app locking capability, I can have my work and personal applications in the same space, while giving my work applications the necessary security level required. This beats all other phones offering second space while hogging the memory and system resources, and affecting the performance.
Also Xiaomi's keeping to its promise of a very responsive MIUI, even with an alternative launcher (I'll come to that later), I'm getting a very good performance, no launch delays, no botchy performance, etc... Which shows that enough effort has been put into OS optimization.
I haven't tried installing a custom OS yet, and this is mainly due to the fact that the factory OS is very well performing and doesn't need further optimization, till now!!
I had to resort to installing a third party launcher (Nova Launcher), since I didn't really like the way MIUI launcher treats the applications, without an application drawer, desktops can become really cluttered, specially that I always test new apps and remove them regularly. This may be convenient for iPhone users, but a no no in our Android world, Xiaomi should reconsider.
A nice addition to the UI is the floating ball, it comes with useful shortcuts, but to change them you have to dig deep into the settings, certainly there should be a better way to do this, still it is a good addition.
The screenshot shortcut saves a shot of the current screen and can later send you to the editing part if you need to crop and edit your shot, it would be better if a crop control can appear when a screenshot is requested, so that we can directly choose which part of the screen we want to capture and share directly.
The phone came with android marshmallow, but as soon as I started using it, a new update with nougat was pushed, I also guess and Oreo version in in the pipeline, still you can have the Oreo taste from any custom rom available for this phone, which are really numerous in comparison to phones from other vendors, I guess Xiaomi should capitalize on this as being one of the most custom ROM friendly phones.
The phone, contacts, and messaging native aps are quiet usable, and so far I haven't faced any problem with them, in comparison to other phones that sometimes struggled with my 1500 entry contact list, the Xiaomi is fully capable of handling such a contact list dispersed among two contact providers (google contact and exchange server), and fully capable of flawlessly handling them.
One small glitch with the messaging app is the inability to delete the newly received SMS from the notification area, something that is usually needed nowadays.
Coming to the notification area, I've seen it better implemented in other phones or ROM versions, where you can get full access to the complete message, and be able control it (delete or reply) from the notification area, I know that in MIUI there is the capability to expand the notification for more details by a two finger swipe, but this is impossible with one handed operation.
The phone also comes with nice extra applications, the security app is quiet useful, and hopefully it does what it promises in the background.
The remote app is also a great addition, making you able to control a vast list of IR enabled devices; yet it should be a good addition to be able to add and customize new non-listed devices, such as for example non-standard android tv boxes.
In conclusion:
I really love this phone and don't regret the investment I put in it, Xiaomi is on a very good track, it should soon reach and surpass market leaders if it keeps building such impressive devices with affordable prices, also having that MIUI forum and its community is a good addition of keeping the users close to the vendor.
My recommendation is to work on the software enhancements requested by the users.
My recommendations to the new buyers, is to install good screen and body protection, stay away from the black version, and invest in a good quality headphones to enjoy your Xiaomi.
so i have a google pixel, not the xl. love the phone but the battery life stinks and id prefer a larger device with a qhd screen. i have an opportunity to pick up a v20 for installment payments, specifically the US996 model. i know this can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. i also see there is aosp based roms which is awesome. do you guys think it would be worth getting? i mean hows the dev scene and battery life on it? id get a xl but they are still on backorder.
Go for the v20 blindly. It has an amazing battery life.
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so i have a google pixel, not the xl. love the phone but the battery life stinks and id prefer a larger device with a qhd screen. i have an opportunity to pick up a v20 for installment payments, specifically the US996 model. i know this can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. i also see there is aosp based roms which is awesome. do you guys think it would be worth getting? i mean hows the dev scene and battery life on it? id get a xl but they are still on backorder.
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if you're interested in its HIFI feature, then absolutely!!
otherwise if music isn't your primary concern, you may want to wait and see how the S8 shapes up, IMHO
buongu said:
if you're interested in its HIFI feature, then absolutely!!
otherwise if music isn't your primary concern, you may want to wait and see how the S8 shapes up, IMHO
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not into samsungs and the locked up bootloaders.
I absolutely love the V20! Screen, camera, sound, performance, and build quality are all excellent! Battery life has been even better than I had expected. In fact, battery life has been so good that I've yet to buy a spare battery. Removable battery was a key selling point for me, as I've bought a spare battery within the first couple days of buying my last 3 phones(Samsung Notes). With the V20, though, I've yet to do so. I had narrowed down my decision to either the V20 or Pixel XL, but the V20 eventually won that comparison. I think you'll thoroughly enjoy the V20
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If you are into developments and music and good doze mode for the battery and infrared and second screens, then the phone is an absolute GO for you. Although for me, screen on time has been diminished to 5+ hours from the 7+ i used to get. But thats because i have been installing way too many apps that synchronize and well... The more apps you install, the less SOT you will get.
To be honest, this has happened to me with every phone including samsungs. There is just no phone that can withstand a heavy user like me and remain with the same performance and battery life as it is. LOL
Ultimately battery life starts to suffer when you install more and more apps. Its really stupid that android doesn't allow you to disable programs from booting instead you have to depend on programs like greenify to kill the persistent programs. Yes I am aware full control can be had via root but really should be a factory feature. Facebook and messenger apps are two terrible offenders.
Anyway OP I strongly advise you get the v20, the second screen is almost a must have feature (once you start depending on it), it has external memory, removable battery (in the case you want to get an extended battery you can) and I like the ir blaster which lets me control devices around the house, something not many phones have.
Really there is literally only one complaint I have and I am sure the majority are fine with it. I got used to the volume controls on the back of the unit and now it makes it a pain in the ass to adjust volume when the phone is in my pocket.
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Of course, everyone has opinions, and all vary. As well as experiences.
The statement earlier about the more apps you have the worse the battery...I can say that is most likely true. It is also the case that the more apps affects performance. I have a LOT of apps installed.
In my case the battery on this phone is quite a bit worse than my Note 4 was. In fact, quite poor. BUT (big BUT)...my Note 4 was rooted and on Maximum Overdrive ROM, and had Greenify on it, and a lot of extra non-used factory apps either uninstalled or disabled. The battery on it was great. Especially screen off battery. But then, who really cares about that?
I've seen the battery here range all over the place for everyone...it all depends on your use, configuration, and apps installed. A bit plus here is the removable battery,.
I really like the phone. Notable: performance, second screen, fingerprint button on back, removable battery. I likely will be keeping it, and likely be rooting.
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FYI...On the US996 only (as far as I know), the only way to unlock bootloader is via official LG site, and it voids the warranty.
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so i have a google pixel, not the xl. love the phone but the battery life stinks and id prefer a larger device with a qhd screen. i have an opportunity to pick up a v20 for installment payments, specifically the US996 model. i know this can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. i also see there is aosp based roms which is awesome. do you guys think it would be worth getting? i mean hows the dev scene and battery life on it? id get a xl but they are still on backorder.
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Hey, I just took advantage of Verizon's promotion where you switch to them from your current network and trade in your device (I had the s7 edge) and I was able to get the Pixel 5" or the LG V20 for free. At first I tried out the Pixel because I have never owned an LG device but really didn't like the little Pixel. I came from the Note line including the Note 7 that I had to return so when that mess happened I went for the s7 edge. The Pixel seemed overall boring and the screen was too small like you said, plus I have a 256gb card I couldn't use with the Pixel. I switched to the V20 within the 14 day return policy and very happy I did. This phone is solid and if you use the little qweek to force doze you have crazy good battery life, I don't even charge my phone in the middle of the day anymore like I used to with past devices. I also forgot how great it was having the IR blaster like my old Note 4 had and I hope LG keeps adding them to the V line phones.
what tweak to doze
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... and if you use the little qweek to force doze you have crazy good battery life, I don't even charge my phone in the middle of the day anymore like I used to with past devices....
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Can you be more specific about the 'little qweek'?
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Can you be more specific about the 'little qweek'?
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In Greenify the "Aggressive Doze" setting for unrooted phones.
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In my case the battery on this phone is quite a bit worse than my Note 4 was. In fact, quite poor. BUT (big BUT)...my Note 4 was rooted and on Maximum Overdrive ROM, and had Greenify on it, and a lot of extra non-used factory apps either uninstalled or disabled. The battery on it was great. Especially screen off battery. But then, who really cares about that?
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I would agree my note 3 got the best battery life and I believe the amoled display is the primary reason for this since amoled can turn off the black sections of the screen it seems to save quite a bit of battery. I like ips better though cause it is sharper and produces colors more accurately, specifically white. I'll take the battery hit especially since I use an extended battery.
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bit the bullet and got the at&t model. unlocked with dirty santa and running resurrection remix. great device, got for $0 down when I opened a line for my daughter.
love the display and clarity.
sound and speaker are loud and crisp.
nice design and as fast as my pixel.
battery life tbd.
really missed qhd and a phablet.
What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
It was a much needed update from my aging Nexus 6.
Was briefly contemplating iPhone, but stuck with the Pixel.
Overall, I love the camera, the battery is a champ, and so far I feel no need or want to modify the device.
I think google did well with this one.
Let's hope LG doesn't botch the next one.
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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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It's the cherry ? bomb. Like all my Google phones.
Unprecedented battery life.
Fast as Lightning (Especially w/sdcardfs)
No cracks or damage.
Best reception I have ever had.
Extremely challenging to hack. Very easy once you have the slots and Google stops playing games. Lol
Speaker sucks. But I can live with it.
Never have and never will buy anything but a Google phone.
I can go on and on.....
BTW Moto Rocks!
I came from an S5 so anything would have been an upgrade for me. So this thing is screaming fast to me
I bought the phone after I had to send my Note 7 back. I liked it, but didn't keep it long. I've been through a few different phones in the meantime, but finally came back. It's faster than any phone I've used, and still feels really solid, and good in the hand
I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
liam_davenport said:
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
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I do miss the value days of the Nexus program. Minus Shamu of course. That was expensive. When I bought those Nexus, I felt like I was getting an incredible value for a smartphone.
Here is something I truly value and want everyone to think about.
How much is it worth to us for,
Monthly security updates
Major OS upgrades for two years
Bugfixes along the way
I'll tell you by saying what I've chosen as my daily driver and where my SIM card is and what's in my pocket right now. I've had marlin since Nov '16 and iPhone 7 plus since Jan '17. The marlin is in my pocket right now. The iPhone 7 plus is a great device (iMessages, waterproof) but the reason I love android is the ability to modify (stock or ROM-root-kernel) and access to that SD Card. Otherwise the 2 are pretty much equal as to camera, battery, speed, smoothness, response to touches, etc. at least in my perception. So, obviously I'm very pleased with marlin since I prefer it to a very popular alternative. Had a Samsung Galaxy S7 in early 2016 but sold it after 2 months, Pixel much better device to me.
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I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
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Agreed 100%. Thats why i skipped this one looking forward to the next one. For the price it must have stereo speaker, better audio, water resist, better design and quality. Oh and wireless charging. Then i will jump right in.
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Six month user here. And my main complaint for the Pixel remains exactly same as it was back when I bought it. The sudden freezing problem. Just out of nowhere the screen freezes for a second or two, if I am playing a game, then its done, simply over, have to restart, and I can't express how much I hate that. Of course its most noticeable/affecting while gaming, but it happens basically everywhere too, but just less frustrating in other places.
I was advised to format the phone, not root it and blah blah but exact same happened there too, without installing any apps at all! Ridiculous problem and IMHO the most annoying issue Pixels have.
Other than this, I don't know, sometimes the low light photos come with a really weird greenish cast, completely off coloured and way too much noise (yeah with HDR+ On, that's the only one I use anyway) etc.
But other than these two, I have no complaints. Tremendous call quality, more than acceptable display (though still no Apple!), excellent GPS (though Google Maps says to calibrate compass every now and then), buttery smooth interface all around most times, at max volume the loudspeaker is excellent (though at half volume it can't be heard and equally ****e!), really low SAR value etc., I am contemplating the U11 now, just for the sound and camera, but if I don't go that route I am gonna keep this phone for at least two years, and the maximum I have ever used a mobile phone was for 15 months, the Galaxy S2 back in the days, should suffice what I think about this phone.
I also have the OnePlus 3 in office, and I know some people compare it and I can say its basically Guava vs Apples comparison.
PS: Sorry didn't comment about development, but I honestly don't care much about it at all. I bought the Pixel so that I won't be needing the optimise it, let Google optimise it for me, and they did a fairly decent job, but after using Franco kernel I can say Google could have done a much better job. So that's all I need, a custom kernel.
coming from Samsung and LG devices, this phone has been a breath of fresh air even with this new partition scheme. Phone does well, battery life holds up for two days. I just have an issue with bluetooth not consistently sending music info to my radio. Some days it works, other days it's like what music info...
It's great and definitely a worthy upgrade from my Nexus 6. The only thing I miss is the front facing speakers but I didn't use them much anyways, well that and I guess it's way more slippery than my Nexus 6 because I don't use cases at all.
Couldn't be happier. Presently have a 7 Plus and the XL that I swap my sim between. IPhone is great in many ways but I just keep coming back to the Pixel XL....something about the experience I get using it that I really enjoy.
As for the other characteristics of the device others have already commented. I purchased mine at launch and received it later October.
I currently have the Nexus 6P. Damn that is a nice phone! I'm seriously doubting anything will "crush" this phones performance. But I decided I wanted to move up to the Pixel XL. I'm a decent Android gamer, so the updated GPU was nice. Plus, the camera is supposedly just that much better. Among other things, like 4GB RAM instead of the 6P's 3GB.
I don't receive the Pixel XL until Monday, so I'm wearing a path through my foyer, pacing back and forth, waiting for it to arrive.
I've spent at LEAST 30 hours this week doing research on the Pixel, its partition layout, how to get root to work, TWRP limitations, etc. This is certainly more complicated than the 6P.
Part of the reason I decided to plop down for the Pixel, was because I didn't see a lot of development going for it, as there is for the 6P. And since people seem to like my ROMs, I figured I'd toss something out there that I made, and see what kind of life it can breathe into the Pixel.
I think I'll like it. Tried it out in-hand at BestBuy yesterday. Solid device, great screen, color accuracy is actually better than the 6P, and for the first time, I kind of like the phone WITHOUT a case! Never though I'd say that.
I've used iPhones since the 3GS up until the 6S Plus (all jailbroken). I decided to try out the Nexus 6P (first ever Android phone) and fell in love with it! Custom ROMs, kernels, tweaks, Xposed, etc. were all new to me and I loved every bit of it!
However, for some reason, I decided to sell it and pick up an iPhone 7 Plus when it released. As iOS matured, security got tighter, and jailbreaking became more difficult. I got tired of waiting for a jailbreak to release and realized how locked down the OS is (when not jailbroken) compared to Android.
I sold my 7 Plus and bought this Pixel XL. I wasn't a huge fan at first, just because of the confusion with the slots and the lack of development compared to the 6P.
Now that there is more development and that I understand the slots better, I'm really enjoying this phone!
Overall, if I had the choice, I would still probably pick the 6P over this; that thing was just a beauty in basically every aspect, and it was the phone that first introduced me into the Android world.
Not a huge fan of the single downfiring speaker or the bottom chin, but otherwise it's a great phone, especially the camera!
I'm going to see what the OnePlus 5 has to offer, and may switch to that - but I'll definitely keep this XL around until the 2nd gen Pixels release. I'll be purchasing the second gen Pixels only if Google allows them to be development friendly like how the Nexus line was. If not, I may make a permanent switch over to the OnePlus line.
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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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Well I had the LG G6, S8+, and I sent the G6 back and sold the S8+. The pixel was snappier than both, better camera than both which is a great feature having and outstanding camera, and more reliable than both. I like stock Android, clean, fast, stable. I like being able to unlock and do what I want with my phone when I want and still have the same snappiness, camera quality, and reliability on custom ROMs. Most times you sacrifice things to go custom. Not with Google devices, Nexus, Pixel, etc. I still have it since released and can't see getting rid of it any time soon. Ya, maybe people thinking of OnePlus 5, but I also had the 3 and 3T and one thing I hated about that is when using anything custom, the camera was horrible, BT for me had issues, and other little nags. All in all, this is definitely my go to device and I've had many.
I give it a C+
After having the Pixel XL since I returned the Note 7 (Best phone I've ever owned IMO), There are issues with it that really bug me.
- For one, Youtube stutters and desyncs the audio from the video almost every video I watch, and I watch a lot of YT.
- Second, the bluetooth does not sync right in my Audi, and every 15 minutes it sounds like a modem for like 20 seconds and reconnects. It also doesn't know what to do on voice calls and frequently bounce back and forth between car speakers, and phone speaker mode, so I just turn it off for voice or Hangouts/Meet calls in the car.
- Third, the battery life has been dwindling over time, so I charge twice a day now. Yes, I'm a power user and need at least 6-8 hours of screen on time per day. That being said the phone charging speed is ridiculously fast. I can charge at least 50% in 30 minutes.
- The speakers are crap, and the audio jack doesn't give me enough volume. The setting between say 60-65% volume is way too loud, so the volume curve is not good.
-As a pro, the Camera is excellent, even in low light if you know what you're doing. The video, if you use the auto stability is crap so just don't use it.
The phone does stutter, and take a while sometimes. I am using the stock ROM, and have made no modifications to the file system or home screen at all. As is, this phone is average, so for the price, not worth it. I do have the Verizon version, and not sure if that makes a difference. Can't wait for the Note 8 to come out.
I've had mine since November and still love it. I came from the G7 edge which I was quite fond of as well. The following are the good things that keep me on the Pixel.
- Camera, for stills easily the best available. Wish the EIS didn't cause the jello effect when panning while video recording, but nonetheless I've been quite pleased with the camcorder as well.
- Software, clean, simple, fluid and robust. I am on stock unrooted. I reboot my phone once a month for updates and the phone never lags, gets janky or develops issues requiring a reboot. Additionally, the speed of updates means I'm always up to date with the most secure version of Android available.
I've had my Pixel XL 128gb since launch. I came from a Note 7, so was very challenging to get used to having a very lean software base which didn't offer many features in comparison to the Samsung series. I missed many software features from the Note 7.
The thing that gets me the most, is that I was already bored of the device 6 months in. I usually hold onto a phone for 12-24 months. The Note 4 I held onto for the longest time (24months). I enjoyed it as there were both android OS updates, and touchwiz updates, so it constantly got a new lease to life looking fresh or having new features. 8 months on and the Pixel looks exactly the same, with no updates.
I also feel that the design looked dated when I bought it, but it now is really showing it's age with the HUGE bezels. I have also struggled to find any good screen protectors (I've tried them all) as they don't sit properly. The phone is huge with a smaller screen than most phones this price/size.
It's got the worst bluetooth of any phone I have every owned, partly down to Android but also to the Pixel.
Had a lot more ROM options for Samsung, being that you can go Note 4 roms, Note 5 roms, Note 7 roms, AOSP builds, CM, MIUI. I feel like the Pixel has AOSP, stock. That's it really. They are all the same with very minor changes.
Otherwise it's mostly buttery smooth - although i'm constantly keeping my eye out for a new phone, so could be the shortest period I have owned a phone for.
Devices are shipping and some of us will be receiving them in the next couple of days! So, if you have a OnePlus 5T, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Unboxing pics are encouraged as well
Who will go first? I'm guessing @Stephen.
I've written a review for the Oneplus 5T, it can be found here! https://www.protonbar.com/mobile-phones/2018/2/12/oneplus-5t
I've been using mine for a while now and I'm really pleased. I'm coming from a Galaxy S7 International, which I've been using for about 2 years.
Screen - The S7 screen has higher res & can get brighter. I can occasionally see pixels on the 5T (esp. with small fonts), but otherwise it's a great AMOLED screen. Surprisingly, the S7 has a much worse blue/green shift problem at higher angles. And the 5T has a very obvious 1" size advantage.
Camera - The S7 camera will be missed. It takes sharper, more reliable pictures. The 5T can't even come close in low light. But, it still is a decent camera.
Battery life - a huge improvement with the 5T, easily gaining well over an extra hour of SOT.
The fingerprint scanner on the 5T is another massive improvement. I even like the rear location, which I resisted at first.
I'm much happier with the 5T's aluminum build than the S7's glass & metal sandwich.
Oxygen OS over Touchwiz is no contest. Glad to be rid of it! Looking forward to Lineage...
So, I'm pretty pleased other than the camera being a bit of a downgrade. The bootloader is unlocked and TWRP installed, so I'm heading off to the development section
So, I have been using the OP5T for a week now (ok, 8 days) and come from Nexus devices, and the following is my user review:
First day received, I was initially a little disappointed in how narrow and tall the phone was, vs. a little shorter and wider (similar to the Nexus 6 build). I was wondering if I should return it because I had wanted a wider phone. I knew it was a 6.01 screen and bigger than my Nexus 6P so I assumed it would be bigger in all aspects but was just as narrow. But I decided to keep it.
I unlocked bl, rooted, using Funk Wizard's guide which was super easy, then flashed Freedom ROM and bluespark kernel. I initially had issues with TWRP and originally flashed the ibe version but then ended up flashing bluespark TWRP. If I didn't remove security - PIN password and entered into TWRP, it would boot in a scrambled way that was unusable. I soft bricked by my own fault by accidentally wiping system, and used the all in one tool just to easily rescue and flash the bluespark TWRP and then rebuilt everything.
Since that point, I have absolutely loved this device and looked past the narrow/tall build. The screen is beautiful. I left the screen protector on that it came with until yesterday, then I removed it and the screen is so much better looking. I always go commando with my devices but keep them in leather fitbag pouches and handle with care. It is a slippery phone especially once without screen protector but it's a sleek device and I don't want to cover the screen or body. Feels so good in hand, and after having gold and white phones for a few years, I welcome the black.
Using Xposed mods and will start to see what Substratum themes work. It really flies on Freedom ROM and bluespark kernel. Very smooth. I almost bought a Pixel 2 XL and don't regret the decision.
OP5T users - enjoy!
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Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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Just like the pain we had to go through reading this childish rant not once, but twice. You have literally got to be the only person who has nothing positive to say about the phone. :laugh:
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Just like the pain we had to go through reading this childish rant not once, but twice. You have literally got to be the only person who has nothing positive to say about the phone. :laugh:
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There are plenty of positives speed looks screen relatively stock software though slowly updated and lunched with 7.1. I read all the reviews I know they are positive. Face unlock is great though not as convenient as smart unlock which unfortunately currently doesn't work annoyingly. You calling me childish says a lot about you. I fully realize it's a rant you don't like it don't ready it and note it's very childish to comment twice on a post.
I recognize they you will probably want to have the last word if you do know I will not answer. However, if you have a constructive question I will be more then happy to respond.
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Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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We should respect every opinion. Its obvious it has nothing to do with reality but still its your's and i respect it. If im not wrong i think i read the exact same text on some OP5T video reviews on Youtube. So, something smells fishy here. After your description it sound even Nokia 1100 is better than OP5T.
I've had the 5T 4 days, after 2 weeks from a busted 6p. Overall I am very happy with it.
PROs:
1. Speed, mainly doing nandroid backups. I can backup or restore a 7gb file in 95-115 seconds (compared to 8-10 minutes with my 6p). So now I bu anything stable before testing anything.
2. Speed, booting up.
3. Did I say speed?
4. Battery life! 8-9 hrs SOT with same use as 6p which gave me 3.5-4.5. (95% on home WiFi)
CONs:
1. Ugly pastel accent choices.
2. Incompatibility with substratum framework overlays.
3. Very ugly white Navbar with Black Theme.
4. Having to press buttons to reboot 2 times more than you should need to.
5. Volume button location (I liked them on right on 6p)
All else I feel is a wash. Camera functions are better, but image quality is about the same. If I had a choice of 5T or 6P, is choose the 5T for speed. Hoping they'll fix some of the cons. Oreo update should do that.
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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YES. Had shamu then switch to oneplus 3., then this.. would say this device is good or even better.
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my Shamu is on its last legs. I'm looking at the 5T for the price. are most shamu users pleased with this phone? is the phone awesome as is without rooting and just staying stock? thanks
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Essentially what I did is switched from n6 to 5t as my daily driver. The speed and battery are amazing compared to n6 but it is a bit of a sacrifice to leave google proper. Dialer is annoying on the 5t and some features are borked like smart unlock (hopefully fixed soon ). Obviously phone still on 7.x. Screen and face unlock pretty damn good too but screen isn't that much of a difference unless you consider looking at it in the sun where 5t outperforms by far. Biggest difference for me is the camera n6 with hdr take much much much better pictures even though hdr on my is painfully slow. DnD is also supper annoying on 5t vs google proper because it's not automatic. I have the 5t now I thought all the software additions on top of pure google would be awesome but though useful they are somewhat limited and the sacrifice are to big to overcome. I plan on selling the 5t and getting pixel 2 xl.
Excellent phone but the camera is let down by the lack of OIS and decent image processing. Not much denoising happens and the shutter speed is fast compared to my old phone (used to be around 1/17 when OP5T is 1/33) this cranks the ISO and so is noisier.
Also the second camera is useless really. I thought the 20MP was for pixel merging but it doesn't do that. Why? Hopefully it comes in a new update but they have had bad press about poor low light performance now.
Also the big Cluster stays on all the time, not good really as battery suffers. In power save mode it should go off.
Also why is One Plus still using that Android power saver. Use the Lineage power slider!!
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Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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If you happen to live in the UK, then its 30 days
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If you happen to live in the UK, then its 30 days
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US.
thisguy159 said:
Daily I am more and more frustrated with this phone. I thought I could live with these shortcomings but they are increasingly annoying. Camera is **** just **** I had the N6 forever finally had to move on but couldn't find anything that would meet all needs, so used moto z play while I search for something new. Other then the obvious (screen and speed) there is nothing op5t offer that is better then z. Moto enhancements are superior to op5t but both cameras equally suck. DnD slider would be great it the original dnd function worked but it doesn't so the slider is crap. Pics with hdr on the n6 are simply better on such an old phone. Op5t ambient display is annoying why go so dark, their update speed is poor the dialer app is awful. Theming is poor and very limited why is my navbar white everywhere? All the enhancements I thought would be great are very limited night mode has one schedule cannot have weekend or slow change. Navbar button enhancements are limited and cannot chose an app but are limited with their few option. Dash charger awesome so fast but only with their cord and dash brick stupid apple move and not consumer friendly. All these things that op says is an enhancements of Android are either slightly better or actually a step back from stock and the compromises are not worth it I wish I had kept ph1. Now I will have to go through the pain of selling it on the secondary market since it's past 15 days.
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can you just flash it with original Andrioid?
Performance 9/10
Phone Design 8/10
Software 7/10
Camera 4/10 (my late nexus 5x was way better)
Regret 6/10
Google cam ported for Oneplus 5T
Has anyone used the GCam ported for Oneplus 5T? I have been using it, but it crashes most of the time when I switch to front camera
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My question is for former Pixel owners who jumped ships to OP. I am thinking to move from Pixel 3 to 8P but I am wondering what prominent features will I be missing? I understand that gcam mod is alive and well on OP platform, but what about tight integration with G assistant? Phone call screens, text spam protection? Is there anything else that someone could shed some light? How happy / unhappy you are with the switch?
Pixel is growing old on me. The high price for the specs are ridics; Google is having serious personality issues, hard to see the direction of where they are going with the phone. I think I am ready to move to a new phone.
thanks for helping me to make an informed decision.
I didn't miss anything and gained much more current higher spec's for my usage!
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I didn't miss anything and gained much more current higher spec's for my usage!
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Thats a solid statement; thank you. Do you use screencall feature? Is it working straight up on OP or do you need to mess with modules / magdisk ? How is your gcam mod ( or you don't even use it ? )
Bought Pro8 at launch, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted with Magisk but I don't need twrp. Played with some modules which there are many.... Stock OOS is excellent, on A11 and I'm more than happy with the 1+ camera & use stock phone setup. Really I've never looked back and will get the Pro 9 next year....
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Bought Pro8 at launch, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted with Magisk but I don't need twrp. Played with some modules which there are many.... Stock OOS is excellent, on A11 and I'm more than happy with the 1+ camera & use stock phone setup. Really I've never looked back and will get the Pro 9 next year....
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For some reason I used to get 10-20 spam calls a day, but with the screencall feature / automatic spam call rejection I get 0. My biggest fear is that I may be hurdling toward that situation, if I jump ships. Other than this, I feel I can live with everything else. 8P looks amazing. Thanks for the feedback!
Tell your what you won't miss, that awful battery life
10 hours SOT on most days here.
Really good phone, I can't fault it.
As others have said root is a breeze and the community is pretty active so there's that too.
You might miss the camera for point and shoot but you can take some phenomenal pics on the 8 Pro.
I just moved to OnePlus 8 Pro recently from Pixel3XL. This phone is a treat to use daily and everything works nice and stable. Couple of misses so far:
1. Losing widevine L1 after unlocking bootloader
2. No RCS on Google Fi on OP8Pro as of now (>7 months after release).
3. ROM update with root is a bit (only slightly) more of a pain than on Pixel where I had an automated script based update coded using ADB.
For Camera, I use both the stock and GCAM port. GCAM port gives more detail in shots just like on P3XL. I am happy with the camera performance so far.
Biggest hits so far:
1. What a treat that display with 120Hz refresh! Wow!
2. Just smooth, no hiccups performance! I think 12GB RAM helps here quite a bit. 4GB of P3XL just wasn't enough
3. Battery life!
I moved from Pixel 3 XL to a Samsung Galaxy S10 for a few months, then jumped to the 8 Pro as quickly as I could (that S10 was the worst phone ever!).
I miss the Camera. The camera quality was definitely better. A lot of times i would take pictures, and i'd crop out smaller areas because they were what i was really going for, and even though that meant zooming in on an image, the fine details of the pixel images were so much better than any other phone that it looked like a picture from any other phone, its something thats terribly overlooked by almost everyone!
Battery life is better.
I do miss having a finger print reader on the back, i just like it better...
I miss the AOD, i think its better than what we have now on the OP, but its good enough. I still miss the one on the pixel though.
I think what i miss the most though is the front firing speakers! Anything else is trash, but "trash" seems to be common nowadays....
When it comes to things like phone call screening, i believe there's a way to get that on the OP, but i dont really care much for it. I've started using (and did so soon after getting the 3 XL) the app called "Should I Answer?". I set it up to reject all calls from numbers that arent in my phone. I get 20+ calls every single day, and even when i used the call screening, it just resulted in more work for me as they tried to get me on the phone. My new method allows people to leave a message. If its important, they will, and i'll call them back.
@PMad are your saying that the pixels battery is better than ? The 8 pro?
I agree on the camera though
> I miss the Camera. The camera quality was definitely better.
Compare GCAM on OnePlus 8 Pro with GCAM on P3XL. The photos get slightly more detailed on my OnePlus 8 Pro compared to my P3XL. In all aspects, they are identicle, with OP8Pro slightly better. Not sure if P5 would have given better results. But P5 is very disappointing for me.
Grab gcam for OP8Pro : https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1486/ version Arnova8G2, 2020-11-15)
I am very satisfied with the camera performance. Its not the best right now but neither is the Pixel.
Is NOW PLAYING functionality or any similar app available for OnePlus 8?
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@PMad are your saying that the pixels battery is better than ? The 8 pro?
I agree on the camera though
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I think the battery is better on the OP8Pro, but the optimization is better on the Pixel. On my Pixel's, all of them, i'd go all day and have roughly 25 to 40% battery left. I was getting slightly more then that with my OP8P until i upgraded to Android 11, now i have to charge up around 7 or 8pm because im at < 20%. Not sure what happened, i'll go into the battery options to see what used most of it, and there's only like... 10 things using at most 2% battery, so its a bit misleading, still not sure whats doing it.
PMad said:
I think the battery is better on the OP8Pro, but the optimization is better on the Pixel. On my Pixel's, all of them, i'd go all day and have roughly 25 to 40% battery left. I was getting slightly more then that with my OP8P until i upgraded to Android 11, now i have to charge up around 7 or 8pm because im at < 20%. Not sure what happened, i'll go into the battery options to see what used most of it, and there's only like... 10 things using at most 2% battery, so its a bit misleading, still not sure whats doing it.
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Did you wipe after the 11 upgrade?
Always best to have a fresh start between bases.
I average about 2 days and about 8-10 hours SOT
Obviously comes with a fair bit of tweaking but yea that's my average..
Currently actually running pixel experience on 11 and battery has been lessened, idle is superb but any kind of work I give the phone burns more battery than what OOS did.
Maybe it'll improve with updates and or a different kernel.
dladz said:
Did you wipe after the 11 upgrade?
Always best to have a fresh start between bases.
I average about 2 days and about 8-10 hours SOT
Obviously comes with a fair bit of tweaking but yea that's my average..
Currently actually running pixel experience on 11 and battery has been lessened, idle is superb but any kind of work I give the phone burns more battery than what OOS did.
Maybe it'll improve with updates and or a different kernel.
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Nope! There's a chance that's contributing to the issue, but i have a few other things i think are causing it. I'm too lazy to dig into it though haha, i dont mind charging it in the evening.
devsk said:
I just moved to OnePlus 8 Pro recently from Pixel3XL. This phone is a treat to use daily and everything works nice and stable. Couple of misses so far:
1. Losing widevine L1 after unlocking bootloader
2. No RCS on Google Fi on OP8Pro as of now (>7 months after release).
3. ROM update with root is a bit (only slightly) more of a pain than on Pixel where I had an automated script based update coded using ADB.
For Camera, I use both the stock and GCAM port. GCAM port gives more detail in shots just like on P3XL. I am happy with the camera performance so far.
Biggest hits so far:
1. What a treat that display with 120Hz refresh! Wow!
2. Just smooth, no hiccups performance! I think 12GB RAM helps here quite a bit. 4GB of P3XL just wasn't enough
3. Battery life!
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Automated script based update?
I came from the Pixel 2 XL only thing i miss is the call screen where you could have your assistant answer the phone. And its really not that big of a deal
OnePlus 8 Pro proud owner.
Let's say that you take 9 Pro in march 2021.
You will have the latest and the best hardware on the market. Maybe we will get Zeiss lens for camera.
Phone is well build and looks good.
Oxygen is awesome OS! Also, except Google OnePlus is the first to get software upgrades.
Battery is decent. But that depends on the user...
Warp charging 30w/6A, there is no need to explain... And it will go to 65w or more.
Now, from 8 Pro we got 30w wireless charging. That is Great! And it will go to 45w or more.