Wonderful: Our phone is the highest radiation emitter of any phone tested - Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers

It would seem that we have another first, and this one is not so good. The A1 is the highest radiation emitter of any phone tested. I'm not exactly sure what that means since there is no clear case for the radiation being harmful, but it is something to keep in mind.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/xiaomi-mi-a1-one-plus-5t-emit-most-cellphone-radiation/

This is known for quite a while, I don't think it would be much significant compared to other devices to worry about. Anyways the best a user can do is to avoid the device being near your head. Nothing more.
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pooniaprashant said:
This is known for quite a while, I don't think it would be much significant compared to other devices to worry about. Anyways the best a user can do is to avoid the device being near your head. Nothing more.
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If you're scared, you may want to avoid keeping it in your pocket, where it's close to the only thing more important than your brain for a male

BtB said:
If you're scared, you may want to avoid keeping it in your pocket, where it's close to the only thing more important than your brain for a male
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If you're scared, you should avoid sunlight because it has a lot more harmful radiation than this phone.

Thanks to Tissot I'm infertile but I love Gcam.

ccalixtro said:
Thanks to Tissot I'm infertile but I love Gcam.
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Lol, believe me. It's nothing significant compared to any other smartphone. Other than that, you made me giggle for sure [emoji23]
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Hahaha...you guys are a hoot. I'm not scared, just found it an interesting data point. Since there is scant evidence of it being harmful radiation, I'm not worried about it. But what is this about sunlight?

KB_Thailand said:
Hahaha...you guys are a hoot. I'm not scared, just found it an interesting data point. Since there is scant evidence of it being harmful radiation, I'm not worried about it. But what is this about sunlight?
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The evidence is not 'scant'. It is mixed. Visible light is one form of non-ionising radiation which is probably what the sunlight comment was referring to which is also bogus. The health effect which we are interested are Microwaves/RF/ELF, not sunlight.

Thanks Xiaomi, now im cancer free

barrack1 said:
The evidence is not 'scant'. It is mixed. Visible light is one form of non-ionising radiation which is probably what the sunlight comment was referring to which is also bogus. The health effect which we are interested are Microwaves/RF/ELF, not sunlight.
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Thanks Professor Science. Please note the WINK after my sunlight statement. And yes, I do realize that UV, X-ray and Gamma rays are dangerous if you are unlucky.
Since scant is defined as 'barely sufficient or adequate', I stand by my use of the word as there are no studies with the 'smoking gun' proving harm from the RF energy produced by cell phones, while some of the studies indicate a 'possible' harmful link. WIth all the various forms of radiation we are exposed to as modern humans, I would think that cell phones would be one of the lessor issues, but that is a hypothesis that is still open to debate.

KB_Thailand said:
Thanks Professor Science. Please note the WINK after my sunlight statement. And yes, I do realize that UV, X-ray and Gamma rays are dangerous if you are unlucky.
Since scant is defined as 'barely sufficient or adequate', I stand by my use of the word as there are no studies with the 'smoking gun' proving harm from the RF energy produced by cell phones, while some of the studies indicate a 'possible' harmful link. WIth all the various forms of radiation we are exposed to as modern humans, I would think that cell phones would be one of the lessor issues, but that is a hypothesis that is still open to debate.
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Why should the wink change the context of your statement since it was dismissive and snarky anyway?
And if you know anything about science, a smoking gun is a very high standard to reach and in any case, the level of funding for that sort of research is scant since it goes against the direction of big industry. A recent '17 rat study which was remarkable for the size of its subject population and type of brain cancer which is on the increase for humans, found cancer occuring even though the levels of radiation was below the cut-off point for heating levels which seems to go against prevailing assumptions about potential problems of non-ionizing radiation, so making an insinuation that its just like sunlight isn't helpful.

barrack1 said:
Why should the wink change the context of your statement since it was dismissive and snarky anyway?
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Coz when we talk, tone of voice matters, we can say if someone is aggressive/serious/sarcastic from tone of voice.
We use emoji in text to lighten the tension in text.

stelariusinfinitek said:
If you're scared, you should avoid sunlight because it has a lot more harmful radiation than this phone.
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Luckily enough, the part I was referring to before does not see lots of sunlight
PS: this post does not have any scientific value.

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HTC Sapphire and Cell Phone Radiation

Hie guys.
I have an HTC Magic and am every bit concerned that my cell phone ranks highly on the List of Highest Radiation Phones. I saw at abc dot com it was ranked no. 2
Now I am afraid to put it next to my head. Is anyone as well worried?
Nope. Not worried here. It got through the FCC and stuff so its within safe limits
If you are worried about your brain you could use a wired headset to keep the transmitter away.
My brain has proven quite durable it seems.. I have always been more worried about the effects of absorbed radiation in dna around the pants region if you follow me
rattking said:
My brain has proven quite durable it seems.. I have always been more worried about the effects of absorbed radiation in dna around the pants region if you follow me
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Lol. Same here

Opinions on the WHO's statement that cell phones may actually cause cancer?

Figured I would make a thread for it since I don't see one. Interested to see what you all think.
I can see the legitimacy of the claim considering the strength of the signals right next to your head. However for this to actually be proven will take time, a lot of it. If you use a cell phone constantly then investing in a bluetooth headset couldn't hurt,, but periodic use could be no worse than a day at the lake or beach.
Disclaimer : I am not a medical professional but a software developer, so these opinions are pure drivel and have no scientific basis other than knowing the scientific method and keeping my mind open to the possibility.
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Cause, doubtful.
Contribute, of course!
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There's been zero scientific studies that show any connection between cellphone use and any sort of cancer. Electro-sensitivity has also been entirely discredited, as people "suffering" from it were shown to have absolutely zero heightened ability to detect any sort of electrical field (which is probably a good thing, since the earth has a freaking massive one all around it).
It seems highly dangerous for the WHO to make any sort of statements like this without evidence to back it up. This is really just a political, not scientific, move.
>implying anybody puts their phones by their heads any more
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(cough) bull****! (cough)
havent we figured out now that everything will give you cancer
**** some asshats will tell you inorganic fruit and veggies will kill you! Haha I just laugh and wait for the air I breathe to give me cancer
Im sure somebody has a study that says it will
(cough) @!#% (cough)
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Living gives you cancer, dying doesn't. Being dead is the only way to be sure you won't get cancer, unless of course you had it when you died, then, I don't really know what hope you have
It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear
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Have a buddy who told me that he is cutting down on talk time on the phone cause of this - while he was lighting a cigarette.
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dmasjz45 said:
It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear
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These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!
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droidzach said:
These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!
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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer
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One, the findings are preliminary, not conclusive. The media needs to learn the difference. Two, everyone who follows even a little science knows cell phones have always contributed to cancer, as well as televisions, monitors, and just about anything electric. How much of a contribution cell phones make is the reason for the study, not IF, as media may confuse. Everyone knows all forms of radiation have a chance of altering the DNA of cells, therefore running the risk of making a cancerous cell, possibly causing full-blown cancer. Note the ifs in that statement. Even smoking cigarettes does not mean you WILL get cancer, it means more cells are modified, increasing the risk. Note the difference.
Anyhow, the study is preliminary, and therefore doesn't mean anything, yet. Prudence advices using your land-line, or bluetooth headset, seeing as it is much lower power, or speakerphone if you must use a cell phone. No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?
My 14 cents.
Domush said:
No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?
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Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.
Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer
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Haha I guess that engineers like this guy are too "technical" to understand simple sarcasm. The topic of this thread is a joke to me and thats all I was saying **** head. Im not afraid of getting cancer from my phone or tv or car radio or microwave or dental x rays or any other form of everyday very very low doses of radiation we encounter. Dont forget about all of the cosmic rays that are flying through your head right now! And you proved my point about the sun being way more dangerous by saying "do you know how easy it is to get skin cancer." (by the way heat is radiation too and is not what alters your cell's dna which is what cancer is) I wasnt arguing anything either where do you see arguments in my post? All radiation is electromagnetic waves right mr "engineer?" Radio waves converge at your car's antenna too, at every antenna. But I guess that im not "technical" enough to know that. Now I have to say this because you are just an asshole, but its very obvious that there are varying levels of radiation for everything some being more harmful than others. Every study that comes out seems to say you can get cancer from this and that. I just happen to think they are bull****. Maybe you "engineers" just need things explicitly stated so you can comprehend. (moron)
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KitsuneKnight said:
Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.
Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
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They did the studies with GSM phones where the emitted energy signature is a huge spike relative to CDMA phones where the energy signature is so distributed and ever so nebulous, its damn difficult to even get a DX lock on.
"it's a colossal waste of time, and effort." +1
Remember when people thought cigarettes were good for you? And studies on the effects of prolonged use was incomplete? The studies are too young to give conclusive evidence here as well. People will give you all kinds of insight but ultimately its your life and you can chose to do what you want. You can proceed with caution or you can ignore it and assumed it has no effect. That is pretty much what it will boil down to until long term studies are done.
chefthomas99 said:
Have a buddy who told me that he is cutting down on talk time on the phone cause of this - while he was lighting a cigarette.
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^this. pretty much awesome.
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The study said that the radiation is non-ionizing like that of a micro-wave. The media grabbed at this and said "the cell phone is going to cook your brain." The levels are not enough to "cook" anything. The point of saying that it is non-ionizing is to say that the likelyhood of causing cancer is very low since the types of radiations that cause cancer (like x-rays) are all ionizing. There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk. The media will still try to scare everyone into watching the news by saying "There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe." Twist it which ever way makes your nipplettes perky.
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There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk.
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The Media said:
There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe.
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Now, how is your statement any better than the media? You give unverified reassurance and the media gives unverified fear.
How many years passed before people even realized the effects of lead based paint? How about asbestos insulation? Hell, the first ever x-ray machines were used in shoe stores to judge your foot size! You think people thought they would get cancer from those back then?! I'm sure there were people lining up on both sides of the fence back then, too. All refusing to admit those three most difficult words of the self-assured "I.. don't.. know."
Stop doling out false conclusions when nobody knows the answer, hence preliminary findings. The answer is "We don't yet know enough to have an answer one way or the other." False calming has likely killed many more people than panic.
"Oh, these nuclear weapons tests.. no harm at all. Here, go clean up that green ooze with this here broom and dustpan."
or more recently..
"Formaldehyde is everywhere, we can't just go banning it because it's toxic"
As with anything potentially dangerous.. expose yourself as little as needed and no more.
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As with anything potentially dangerous.. expose yourself as little as needed and no more.
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What are the evidences of the dangerous potential?

[Q] Thermometer

So I understand that the S4 has a thermometer? Does anybodys work right? Its 70 degrees right now and S health is showing 88.
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geoldr said:
So I understand that the S4 has a thermometer? Does anybodys work right? Its 70 degrees right now and S health is showing 88.
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The reading will reflect both the heat generated by the phone as well as any temp increase provided by your hand. It's probably even higher when the phone is first removed from your pocket. Not sure how it would ever be an accurate gauge of actual outside temp unless you left the phone setting untouched outdoors for a while.
I noticed the same thing, the temp reading is always way higher than the actual surrounding, seems pretty pointless to even include a thermometer is it reads the phones temp, and not the actual surrounding temp... Major fail on that one Samsung...
I'm pretty sure it's part of the barometer that's in the phone which also calculates humidity, pressure, etc and from what i can tell, those readings are pretty accurate.
tdesbien31 said:
I noticed the same thing, the temp reading is always way higher than the actual surrounding, seems pretty pointless to even include a thermometer is it reads the phones temp, and not the actual surrounding temp... Major fail on that one Samsung...
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Many phones do include temperature and humidity sensors, but it's rather dumb of Samsung to try and use that temperature gauge for anything useful.
That said, it's good to have if you're overclocking, which unfortunately isn't possible yet (or necessary IMO)
danstheman7 said:
Many phones do include temperature and humidity sensors, but it's rather dumb of Samsung to try and use that temperature gauge for anything useful.
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I disagree. Imagine hiking or other outdoor activities where you can hang the phone from your waist or backpack? It's like the Casio Pathfinder watches... they too read temperature way too high when you wear them on your wrist, but if you leave them on your backpack when hiking they read the air temp very accurately. I think Samsung did a very good job, considering that they have orders of magnitude way more hardware heat to deal with than Casio.
danstheman7 said:
Many phones do include temperature and humidity sensors, but it's rather dumb of Samsung to try and use that temperature gauge for anything useful.
That said, it's good to have if you're overclocking, which unfortunately isn't possible yet (or necessary IMO)
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Most phones have temp sensor in battery or cpu. S4 has a separate sensor near the bottom of the phone. It will be inaccurate but less so then other phones. Haven't seen a phone with a humidity sensor (other then the water indicators but they are not electronical).
jsstp24n5 said:
I disagree. Imagine hiking or other outdoor activities where you can hang the phone from your waist or backpack? It's like the Casio Pathfinder watches... they too read temperature way too high when you wear them on your wrist, but if you leave them on your backpack when hiking they read the air temp very accurately. I think Samsung did a very good job, considering that they have orders of magnitude way more hardware heat to deal with than Casio.
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Dumb as in the way it was implemented, not in the idea of using it. Adding such a sensor is a good idea, but if it's not in a location which will be very reliable, it's not very intelligent.

Is the smearing issue hardware or software?

Is it? I've read about it and it seems it's an issue with the AMOLED Samsung chose for this phone, but that it can be solved with other RGB settings, slightly cutting back on the true blacks and whites.
if you are so much troubled by it, then by all means feel free to do so
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Rewrote the OP, lol. I always write stuff I don't mean when I'm a bit angry. It's just that I'm tired of constantly having phones with issues. I exchanged the piece of crap One for this phone.
Hey Shawty. I tried the MEA update and personally couldn't see any snaring although some people claim it's still there. I must be blind because I looked for it.
Still I went back to my old setup as some mods didn't work on the new rom. Personally it doesn't bother me as I rarely see it.
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I can say from my experience that it is software related. When I first got the phone I noticed it immediately, on menus etc. I installed an app that was suggested on some other threads about this topic which like you said changes something to do with RGB levels (I don't actually understand the issue/fix myself). Since the MEA update it has been less of a problem, I don't get it on the settings menu for example. But in another app (Light Flow) I still get a bit of smearing.
Theshawty said:
Look, darling. I appreciated the One but the fact that it had so many flaws was bothering. It heated up beyond what one would call reasonable and actually got too uncomfortable to hold and the capacitive keys were blue-ish when they should have been white (I even compared it to my brother's One).
I agree that the One is superior to the S4 in many ways like for instance the speakers, the premium feel and a few other aspects.
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Sorry but have to refute this nonesense about the One heating up. The One does not heat up unless you're using it plugged in and proper battering it with a 3D game or something, and even then to call it hot is stretching matters. Warm to the touch is the best i've managed with it. Now the S4, that gets bloody hot, too hot to touch.
As for the issue at hand, can't be sorted as it;s inherent with all Amoled displays including S4, S3, etc.
Flashmore said:
BTW. the heat from One's aluminium body is not an "issue" its normal since alloy is an excellent conductor of heat, better to rid the heat than reflect it like plastic, the heat is no way impacting performance or otherwise.
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I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
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As for the blue-ish buttons, come on, don't talk trash, that is such a nit pick ridiculous comment!
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I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
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Sorry but have to refute this nonesense about the One heating up. The One does not heat up unless you're using it plugged in and proper battering it with a 3D game or something, and even then to call it hot is stretching matters. Warm to the touch is the best i've managed with it. Now the S4, that gets bloody hot, too hot to touch.
As for the issue at hand, can't be sorted as it;s inherent with all Amoled displays including S4, S3, etc.
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So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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I am not a Samsung fanboy, though, but there was only one phone I wanted and that was the HTC One. It disappointed me and I turned to the S4. Should that prove to be a disappointment as well, I don't know what to do.
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Strictly keep it on topic. No trolling. No sarcasm.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but you do need to respect other's too.
Theshawty said:
I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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Good for you, I have both devices right in front of me.
I actually had an H-One replaced for thinking it was overheating, however after receiving the new one it has the same heat omission and it isn't really "uncomfortable" come on S4 gets hot too when multitasking.
The aluminium body is supposed to get hot its what aluminium does when a large battery presses against it fuelling a hard working CPU, mind you I dont believe you weren't working the CPU and it merely "got hot doing nothing special"(as for battery life comparing the two the 'One' has better battery life, mind you I'm using stock battery S4)
Plastic doesn't transfer heat nearly as well hence the worse battery life and most likely reduced life of the phone, not to mention the cheap look and feel. I don't expect my post to last here as it seems some biased mods refuse to allow any opinions to remain that may be even slightly objective towards S4, don't get me wrong I still really like the S4, oh well, care factor!
BTW I am not calling anyone a liar, however if you think your post is more truthful than mine then I guess you're judging people without hearing their opinion!
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I am perfectly well aware of that metal is an excellent conductor or heat and of course that is a good thing, but the heat was an issue, for me and taking into consideration HTC's previous history, I didn't want another One because I am sure it would have had several flaws as well. I returned to where I feel the most safe (and sound) which would be Samsung.
We'll see where the future leads me.
I didn't like that, especially not when all other One's I saw had a bright white light (lol, rhyming ).
So just because your HTC One doesn't heat up, you're calling everyone else off as liars? The One I had must have been faulty because it actually got HOT and very uncomfortably so by not doing anything special. It got varm by just randomly scrolling around and got hot when I played 20 minutes of Candy Crush.
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high end performance comes at a cost... do not expect a quad core cpu to be cool also give it some time till samsung s4 software is really optimized because its far from being fully ready
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Good for you, I have both devices right in front of me.
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Good for you.
Flashmore said:
I actually had an H-One replaced for thinking it was overheating, however after receiving the new one it has the same heat omitting and it isn't really "uncomfortable" come on S4 gets hot too when multitasking.
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There you go again. You don't think it's uncomfortable, but I do. Yeah, the S4 does get hot, but at one spot only, the upper part of the phone, though it doesn't get all around hot like the One does.
Flashmore said:
The aluminium body is supposed to get hot its what aluminium does when a large battery presses against it fuelling a hard working CPU, mind you I dont believe you weren't working the CPU and it merely "got hot doing nothing special"(as for battery life comparing the two the 'One' has better battery life, mind you I'm using stock battery S4)
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Believe what you will, I cannot force you. I know the truth, the real truth. I wasn't working the CPU when it got hot, unless playing around iwth the phone means working the CPU a lot. It got blazingly hot by playing games.
Flashmore said:
Plastic doesn't transfer heat nearly as well hence the worse battery life and most likely reduced life of the phone, not to mention the cheap look and feel. I don't expect my post to last here as it seems some biased mods refuse to allow any opinions to remain that may be even slightly objective towards S4, don't get me wrong I still really like the S4, oh well, care factor!
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Biased? Haha, oh the irony of this post.
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Good for you.
Biased? Haha, oh the irony of this post.
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Haha too, there's no irony when nobody knows the truth, anyway I guess ignorance is bliss, no offence however I think you're right. Piece!
Regards
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Theshawty said:
Is it? I've read about it and it seems it's an issue with the AMOLED Samsung chose for this phone, but that it can be solved with other RGB settings, slightly cutting back on the true blacks and whites.
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I donĀ“t have this anymore on latest MF8 on 9505.

[Q] Phosphorus in the screen?

Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.
SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.
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A banana is very radioactive as well. Do you avoid eating bananas?
SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.
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This is enough internet for today... (just 1PM :crying
I'm actually serious about this. The use of some phosphorus substance is banned because of its ill effects. So unless someone can verify what is used on this phone I won't buy it and suggest others to keep from it also.
SuperMarioGalaxy said:
I'm actually serious about this. The use of some phosphorus substance is banned because of its ill effects. So unless someone can verify what is used on this phone I won't buy it and suggest others to keep from it also.
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Good news! That means there will be one more device available for someone who really wants it.
Why is everyone taking this so lightly or as a joke? Detrimenting one's eyesight is no joke to me...
SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Why is everyone taking this so lightly or as a joke? Detrimenting one's eyesight is no joke to me...
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I don't think it's a joke.
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PLEASE..... , she's a great reviewer (when reviewing) , but her ocd problem with over analysing every little tiny aspect of a mobile phone is a bit too much for me..:silly:
How many different things do we have to be careful about this week, as long as you do everything in moderation and NOT to access then you'll be fine..............just enjoy your phone & chill out...
LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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Zamboney said:
LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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& this is aimed at who? you own a Samsung Galaxy Note....:laugh:.
Does that mean when you are sleeping with the phone charging next to your bed the phosphorus meanines come out through one of the flaps & nuke my eyes & sperm :silly:
Phosphorus is not radioactive, infact it's quite the wonder element. It's used in applications such as softening water, used to remove impurities from glass, used as fertiliser, heck you piss it out as the substance is formed in your body in the kidneys when removing contaminants.
I haven't watched the video but since it's that same woman who was bothered about staining when the device was being handled by hundreds of people, I have little faith in what she says anyway.
Zamboney said:
LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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I'm no paid Samsung troll. If anything, I'm a bit of a Sony fan. I didn't want to make a huge deal out of this to scare people, hence the lame title etc. I just wanted to know if there really is a harmful substance used in the screen.
TheOnlyIntruder said:
Phosphorus is not radioactive, infact it's quite the wonder element. It's used in applications such as softening water, used to remove impurities from glass, used as fertiliser, heck you piss it out as the substance is formed in your body in the kidneys when removing contaminants.
I haven't watched the video but since it's that same woman who was bothered about staining when the device was being handled by hundreds of people, I have little faith in what she says anyway.
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Yes I'm perfectly aware that Phosphorus isn't radioactive in itself and its a necessity to life and its being wasted when we pee in a toilet, thus degrading the soil unnecessarily. But there are isotopes that are radioactive and that some harmful phosphorus substances have been used in for example watches that illuminate the hands in the dark. This was later deemed dangerous to eyesight.
One misconception I want to clear: Although Erica might be a "bit" neurotic, or maybe just because of that, she certainly knows her nitbits. She never said anything about the phosphorus being dangerous. It just rang in my ear. She stated at 5:34 that they used red and green phosphorus and a blue backlight. The Triluminos tech is explained in the video so that a blue backlight excites the red and green phosphorus and so they get a wide color gamut. I'm no physicist but maybe someone else can explain this better. Basically the problem is not that it would ill you from your bedside table, but when the display is on, whatever the phosphorus is emitting when excited (be it radioactive or only light) is going straight to your eye. If you use this technology for several hours a day for years its bound to affect something, IF there are any effects to be had. I'm not trying to cause a panic or steer people away from buying this (I have mine on preorder too), I would just want to understand what this is.
I'm not completely sure but I think that traditional LEDs don't use this kind of technology and they use regular diodes with no phosphorus in them.
Thoughts? Physicists that could explain this?
Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings? Maybe you should worry about GM foods you ingest everyday, instead of such trivial things.
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feis said:
Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings? Maybe you should worry about GM foods you ingest everyday, instead of such trivial things.
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I'm in no way psychotic, wtf?! Many have used harmful stuff. We still don't know if cell phone radiowaves are harmful in the long run. Also electrical equipments create magnetic fields that affect us. You are deluded to think that no-one would produce anything harmful either by not knowing it is or knowingly. Jfyi, I try not to eat GM-foods but if I didn't eat them at all, life would be really hard. I just don't fret about it. Usually I don't fret about things at all, this just sounded very weird to me. And this is not a trivial thing to me, I value my eyesight thank you very much. I've been grown to think light emitting phosphorus is harmful. Same way if you heard that something had asbest in it, you would go inhaling it right away, right?
banzibaby said:
does that mean when you are sleeping with the phone charging next to your bed the phosphorus meanines come out through one of the flaps & nuke my eyes & sperm :silly:
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lol made my day! +1
you would go inhaling it right away, right?
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Yes ......I am inhaling right now.....& boy is it good.......
I mean we live in such a world that you cannot possibly avoid everything that maybe harmful to you, and there are many unclear things and their effects to human in todays technology, and i can guarantee you no one in this forum can give you answers for your question with proof or say medical experments, so just go for other phone if you are that worried about this stuff. For me this is trivial, and i have bigger problems than worrying about something i know nothing about and just heard a single word about it in a single review. Ps english is not my native language, i probably meant paranoid not psychotic.
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feis said:
Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings?
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This is exactly it, if the phone screen emitted UV radiation (which is what I believe you're thinking of) there would be warnings in place explaining if it did and the amount it would output. Not only that but even if the diodes had enough power to emit UV radiation, there is a glass panel in the way and if you didn't know already, glass blocks upto 99.99% of UV light, an example of such is when you see someone who wears transition glasses, the glasses don't transition when in side of the car, even if strong sunlight is shinning through simply because the windows are blocking UV light.
Our phones aren't equipped with flashbangs, they aren't going to blind us.
As for radiation in general, all elements have radiation isotopes, most naturally found elements are those that have decayed from another element and become stable since the half-life becomes in the millions of years range.
Hey OP, It's phosphor - not phosphorous. Plasma and many other displays use those.In fact, Panasonic's VT/ZT series use fast switching phosphors and those are simply the best TVs in the market. They are not harmful as long as you don't break the glass and start poking at them with your finger. Same thing applies to batteries. You can chillax now.

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