[Q] Phosphorus in the screen? - Xperia Z2 General

Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.

SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.
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A banana is very radioactive as well. Do you avoid eating bananas?

SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Erica Griffin stated that they use phosphorus in the screen of the Sony Z2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS5DlQIhLTM
Can anyone confirm this? Do they use phosphorous substances in the screen? Is this phosphorus radioactive? Way back the use of (some form of) phosphorus was banned in watches etc. because it destroys your eyes.
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This is enough internet for today... (just 1PM :crying

I'm actually serious about this. The use of some phosphorus substance is banned because of its ill effects. So unless someone can verify what is used on this phone I won't buy it and suggest others to keep from it also.

SuperMarioGalaxy said:
I'm actually serious about this. The use of some phosphorus substance is banned because of its ill effects. So unless someone can verify what is used on this phone I won't buy it and suggest others to keep from it also.
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Good news! That means there will be one more device available for someone who really wants it.

Why is everyone taking this so lightly or as a joke? Detrimenting one's eyesight is no joke to me...

SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Why is everyone taking this so lightly or as a joke? Detrimenting one's eyesight is no joke to me...
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I don't think it's a joke.
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PLEASE..... , she's a great reviewer (when reviewing) , but her ocd problem with over analysing every little tiny aspect of a mobile phone is a bit too much for me..:silly:
How many different things do we have to be careful about this week, as long as you do everything in moderation and NOT to access then you'll be fine..............just enjoy your phone & chill out...

LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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Zamboney said:
LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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& this is aimed at who? you own a Samsung Galaxy Note....:laugh:.

Does that mean when you are sleeping with the phone charging next to your bed the phosphorus meanines come out through one of the flaps & nuke my eyes & sperm :silly:

Phosphorus is not radioactive, infact it's quite the wonder element. It's used in applications such as softening water, used to remove impurities from glass, used as fertiliser, heck you piss it out as the substance is formed in your body in the kidneys when removing contaminants.
I haven't watched the video but since it's that same woman who was bothered about staining when the device was being handled by hundreds of people, I have little faith in what she says anyway.

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LOL! Usually paid Samsung trolls like you suck, but you're hilarious.
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I'm no paid Samsung troll. If anything, I'm a bit of a Sony fan. I didn't want to make a huge deal out of this to scare people, hence the lame title etc. I just wanted to know if there really is a harmful substance used in the screen.
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Phosphorus is not radioactive, infact it's quite the wonder element. It's used in applications such as softening water, used to remove impurities from glass, used as fertiliser, heck you piss it out as the substance is formed in your body in the kidneys when removing contaminants.
I haven't watched the video but since it's that same woman who was bothered about staining when the device was being handled by hundreds of people, I have little faith in what she says anyway.
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Yes I'm perfectly aware that Phosphorus isn't radioactive in itself and its a necessity to life and its being wasted when we pee in a toilet, thus degrading the soil unnecessarily. But there are isotopes that are radioactive and that some harmful phosphorus substances have been used in for example watches that illuminate the hands in the dark. This was later deemed dangerous to eyesight.
One misconception I want to clear: Although Erica might be a "bit" neurotic, or maybe just because of that, she certainly knows her nitbits. She never said anything about the phosphorus being dangerous. It just rang in my ear. She stated at 5:34 that they used red and green phosphorus and a blue backlight. The Triluminos tech is explained in the video so that a blue backlight excites the red and green phosphorus and so they get a wide color gamut. I'm no physicist but maybe someone else can explain this better. Basically the problem is not that it would ill you from your bedside table, but when the display is on, whatever the phosphorus is emitting when excited (be it radioactive or only light) is going straight to your eye. If you use this technology for several hours a day for years its bound to affect something, IF there are any effects to be had. I'm not trying to cause a panic or steer people away from buying this (I have mine on preorder too), I would just want to understand what this is.
I'm not completely sure but I think that traditional LEDs don't use this kind of technology and they use regular diodes with no phosphorus in them.
Thoughts? Physicists that could explain this?

Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings? Maybe you should worry about GM foods you ingest everyday, instead of such trivial things.
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feis said:
Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings? Maybe you should worry about GM foods you ingest everyday, instead of such trivial things.
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I'm in no way psychotic, wtf?! Many have used harmful stuff. We still don't know if cell phone radiowaves are harmful in the long run. Also electrical equipments create magnetic fields that affect us. You are deluded to think that no-one would produce anything harmful either by not knowing it is or knowingly. Jfyi, I try not to eat GM-foods but if I didn't eat them at all, life would be really hard. I just don't fret about it. Usually I don't fret about things at all, this just sounded very weird to me. And this is not a trivial thing to me, I value my eyesight thank you very much. I've been grown to think light emitting phosphorus is harmful. Same way if you heard that something had asbest in it, you would go inhaling it right away, right?

banzibaby said:
does that mean when you are sleeping with the phone charging next to your bed the phosphorus meanines come out through one of the flaps & nuke my eyes & sperm :silly:
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lol made my day! +1

you would go inhaling it right away, right?
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Yes ......I am inhaling right now.....& boy is it good.......

I mean we live in such a world that you cannot possibly avoid everything that maybe harmful to you, and there are many unclear things and their effects to human in todays technology, and i can guarantee you no one in this forum can give you answers for your question with proof or say medical experments, so just go for other phone if you are that worried about this stuff. For me this is trivial, and i have bigger problems than worrying about something i know nothing about and just heard a single word about it in a single review. Ps english is not my native language, i probably meant paranoid not psychotic.
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feis said:
Jeesus dude stop being so psichotic. I mean with all current regulations and safety requirements do you really think a company size of sony would use something harmful to human beings?
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This is exactly it, if the phone screen emitted UV radiation (which is what I believe you're thinking of) there would be warnings in place explaining if it did and the amount it would output. Not only that but even if the diodes had enough power to emit UV radiation, there is a glass panel in the way and if you didn't know already, glass blocks upto 99.99% of UV light, an example of such is when you see someone who wears transition glasses, the glasses don't transition when in side of the car, even if strong sunlight is shinning through simply because the windows are blocking UV light.
Our phones aren't equipped with flashbangs, they aren't going to blind us.
As for radiation in general, all elements have radiation isotopes, most naturally found elements are those that have decayed from another element and become stable since the half-life becomes in the millions of years range.

Hey OP, It's phosphor - not phosphorous. Plasma and many other displays use those.In fact, Panasonic's VT/ZT series use fast switching phosphors and those are simply the best TVs in the market. They are not harmful as long as you don't break the glass and start poking at them with your finger. Same thing applies to batteries. You can chillax now.

Related

Ultimate Application??

Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
i believe that there is a point og g to activate
and thats if
a timer deside when the contex menu come about
normal touch screens even pasive digtizers on tablet pc's
only do on and off registration
active digitizerts on tablets though support preasure measuring
That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
haha u read the words outa my mouth ;x that would be gangster tho
Alternatively you could try making some scales into a phone.
Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
jomo25 said:
Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Now you're onto it. The possibilities are endless. I give it another 5 years before we see similar applications. Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston right now is already texting barcodes as boarding passes that can be scanned.
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Oh, oregano! Makes sense with your screen name being Chef
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
I think we're onto something here. We need better touchscreens that can handle more force.
Imagine the perfect windows mobile diet phone which can tell you how much weight you've put on, find you a diet plan online. And order a pizza when it can tell you don't care anymore.
Who cares about fingertip scrolling when we finally bring the phone into the real world and make it fix other problems too.
I think a built-in stun device would be cool. And a personal alarm. A decent torch. A proper flash camera with a zoom feature. Maybe we make the zoom strong enough and big enough to take a person's weight. Who needs stepladders anymore!
I think a built in printer could help but needs to support full A4 sheets. Maybe it can scroll up and down a page until it's printed. And can we adjust the camera so it can act like a proper scanner? A portable colour photocopier is born!
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
i really think theres no such thing as ultimate application
i really depend on how this application will help your needs and so that way it will be very useful
peace
speoples20 said:
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
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I'm sorry council...I don't recall.
littld said:
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
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It should of course be able to monitor ovulation, blood pressure, heart rate (full ECG), blood oxigen level, blood sugar level, prothrombin ratio and last, not least my need for coffee.
And my next SIP should read my mind. Voice control and T9 are a bit old fashioned, right?
I want a phone that also works as a lightsaber.
if you smoked the "oregano"
all applications you come up with seem ultimate
and all old cake leftovers taste like the best thing in the world
(or so i've been led to believe...)
You are better off getting to know your “oregano” and learn to estimate the weight accurately. Maybe if you would need this for “sugar” or “brown sugar”, weighting something under 5g’s would be in some use.
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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Opinions on the WHO's statement that cell phones may actually cause cancer?

Figured I would make a thread for it since I don't see one. Interested to see what you all think.
I can see the legitimacy of the claim considering the strength of the signals right next to your head. However for this to actually be proven will take time, a lot of it. If you use a cell phone constantly then investing in a bluetooth headset couldn't hurt,, but periodic use could be no worse than a day at the lake or beach.
Disclaimer : I am not a medical professional but a software developer, so these opinions are pure drivel and have no scientific basis other than knowing the scientific method and keeping my mind open to the possibility.
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Cause, doubtful.
Contribute, of course!
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There's been zero scientific studies that show any connection between cellphone use and any sort of cancer. Electro-sensitivity has also been entirely discredited, as people "suffering" from it were shown to have absolutely zero heightened ability to detect any sort of electrical field (which is probably a good thing, since the earth has a freaking massive one all around it).
It seems highly dangerous for the WHO to make any sort of statements like this without evidence to back it up. This is really just a political, not scientific, move.
>implying anybody puts their phones by their heads any more
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(cough) bull****! (cough)
havent we figured out now that everything will give you cancer
**** some asshats will tell you inorganic fruit and veggies will kill you! Haha I just laugh and wait for the air I breathe to give me cancer
Im sure somebody has a study that says it will
(cough) @!#% (cough)
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Living gives you cancer, dying doesn't. Being dead is the only way to be sure you won't get cancer, unless of course you had it when you died, then, I don't really know what hope you have
It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear
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Have a buddy who told me that he is cutting down on talk time on the phone cause of this - while he was lighting a cigarette.
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It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear
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These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!
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droidzach said:
These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!
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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer
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One, the findings are preliminary, not conclusive. The media needs to learn the difference. Two, everyone who follows even a little science knows cell phones have always contributed to cancer, as well as televisions, monitors, and just about anything electric. How much of a contribution cell phones make is the reason for the study, not IF, as media may confuse. Everyone knows all forms of radiation have a chance of altering the DNA of cells, therefore running the risk of making a cancerous cell, possibly causing full-blown cancer. Note the ifs in that statement. Even smoking cigarettes does not mean you WILL get cancer, it means more cells are modified, increasing the risk. Note the difference.
Anyhow, the study is preliminary, and therefore doesn't mean anything, yet. Prudence advices using your land-line, or bluetooth headset, seeing as it is much lower power, or speakerphone if you must use a cell phone. No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?
My 14 cents.
Domush said:
No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?
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Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.
Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer
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Haha I guess that engineers like this guy are too "technical" to understand simple sarcasm. The topic of this thread is a joke to me and thats all I was saying **** head. Im not afraid of getting cancer from my phone or tv or car radio or microwave or dental x rays or any other form of everyday very very low doses of radiation we encounter. Dont forget about all of the cosmic rays that are flying through your head right now! And you proved my point about the sun being way more dangerous by saying "do you know how easy it is to get skin cancer." (by the way heat is radiation too and is not what alters your cell's dna which is what cancer is) I wasnt arguing anything either where do you see arguments in my post? All radiation is electromagnetic waves right mr "engineer?" Radio waves converge at your car's antenna too, at every antenna. But I guess that im not "technical" enough to know that. Now I have to say this because you are just an asshole, but its very obvious that there are varying levels of radiation for everything some being more harmful than others. Every study that comes out seems to say you can get cancer from this and that. I just happen to think they are bull****. Maybe you "engineers" just need things explicitly stated so you can comprehend. (moron)
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Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.
Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
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They did the studies with GSM phones where the emitted energy signature is a huge spike relative to CDMA phones where the energy signature is so distributed and ever so nebulous, its damn difficult to even get a DX lock on.
"it's a colossal waste of time, and effort." +1
Remember when people thought cigarettes were good for you? And studies on the effects of prolonged use was incomplete? The studies are too young to give conclusive evidence here as well. People will give you all kinds of insight but ultimately its your life and you can chose to do what you want. You can proceed with caution or you can ignore it and assumed it has no effect. That is pretty much what it will boil down to until long term studies are done.
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Have a buddy who told me that he is cutting down on talk time on the phone cause of this - while he was lighting a cigarette.
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^this. pretty much awesome.
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The study said that the radiation is non-ionizing like that of a micro-wave. The media grabbed at this and said "the cell phone is going to cook your brain." The levels are not enough to "cook" anything. The point of saying that it is non-ionizing is to say that the likelyhood of causing cancer is very low since the types of radiations that cause cancer (like x-rays) are all ionizing. There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk. The media will still try to scare everyone into watching the news by saying "There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe." Twist it which ever way makes your nipplettes perky.
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There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk.
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The Media said:
There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe.
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Now, how is your statement any better than the media? You give unverified reassurance and the media gives unverified fear.
How many years passed before people even realized the effects of lead based paint? How about asbestos insulation? Hell, the first ever x-ray machines were used in shoe stores to judge your foot size! You think people thought they would get cancer from those back then?! I'm sure there were people lining up on both sides of the fence back then, too. All refusing to admit those three most difficult words of the self-assured "I.. don't.. know."
Stop doling out false conclusions when nobody knows the answer, hence preliminary findings. The answer is "We don't yet know enough to have an answer one way or the other." False calming has likely killed many more people than panic.
"Oh, these nuclear weapons tests.. no harm at all. Here, go clean up that green ooze with this here broom and dustpan."
or more recently..
"Formaldehyde is everywhere, we can't just go banning it because it's toxic"
As with anything potentially dangerous.. expose yourself as little as needed and no more.
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As with anything potentially dangerous.. expose yourself as little as needed and no more.
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What are the evidences of the dangerous potential?

Phone accessory

Hi, Maybe this should be in the accessories section but I did it myself, It's not much and I know that so not criticism unless it is constructive please.
This isn't criticism.
What exactly is the advantage to having that "ring" (for lack of a better term) around just the face of the phone? It seems like it would be more useful around the back of the phone.
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This isn't criticism.
What exactly is the advantage to having that "ring" (for lack of a better term) around just the face of the phone? It seems like it would be more useful around the back of the phone.
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LMAO!! Thanks, I needed that.
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063_XOBX said:
This isn't criticism.
What exactly is the advantage to having that "ring" (for lack of a better term) around just the face of the phone? It seems like it would be more useful around the back of the phone.
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There is what is called "bumper cases" which are pretty much just a ring to protect the corners and make a small gap between the screen and the floor or any level horizontal surface so if you drop it, it will hopefully not break your phone screen or corners. This one fails a bit at the later but I imagine keeps the corners slightly protected.
Ok
polobunny said:
There is what is called "bumper cases" which are pretty much just a ring to protect the corners and make a small gap between the screen and the floor or any level horizontal surface so if you drop it, it will hopefully not break your phone screen or corners. This one fails a bit at the later but I imagine keeps the corners slightly protected.
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Ok, thanks, going to attempt to take on the advice and create something new, just so you guys know and mabye guessed, its just a rubber band!!!
TechMitchell said:
Ok, thanks, going to attempt to take on the advice and create something new, just so you guys know and mabye guessed, its just a rubber band!!!
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You should try a thicker, wider one. Maybe something like what they wrap baby trees to poles with.
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063_XOBX said:
You should try a thicker, wider one. Maybe something like what they wrap baby trees to poles with.
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OK, I really hope that wasn't sarcasm because I have watched too much of the big bang theory to notice sarcasm anymore lol!!!
My Dad actually works in the cellphone case business so I may actually have some good insight, the one real popular feature as of late is the incorporation of a wallet into the case. So if you could work that with a bumper in an otherwise then accessory that would be pretty awesome

HTC One Black Scuffs

Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
Not seen anyone with a black HTC One yet on these forums but if they exist I am sure they will let you know.
There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
dimgl said:
Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
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paulobrien has one you can ask him.
Or you can ask the reviewer from CNET also.
Andrew Hoyle
Black is not released yet but we have been assured it is anodised. The iPhone5 was a joke arriving with chips in the paintwork out of the box! While it is VERY hard to produce things perfectly and there may be a slight flaw somewhere on the phone, some of the iPhone 5s were shocking.
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There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
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This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
Bunch of crazy people here
rotchcrocket04 said:
This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
Cnet.co.uk review got it wrong, it's not painted. It's anodized for sure.
Op, can you change the topic to: .... does not scuff?
dimgl said:
Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
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iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
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While I'm not trying to start a war here, because I don't know this stuff as well as some others, I do know that the iPhone is anodized.
A large part of an anodizing process (and it's overall resistance against scuffs/scratches) comes down to the type of metal and its hardness (tempered vs. non-tempered) along with depth, dye, and the finishing process itself. Anodizing is quite a bit different than just spraying some paint on something and moving along - however, it does have the ability to chip/scuff almost just as easily (depending on the process and materials used).
rotchcrocket04 said:
Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
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that is crazy. :d
jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
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this guy doesn't understand what anodized means...
"Now, after using the phone for more than a week, I can say it’s surely one of the best phones out there, if not the best. It’s got issues, for example, with the pretty finish chipping off, but I’m been very impressed in other areas like battery life and camera."
this is from one of the reviews. do not trust the video on youtube.
Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
epicfailguy2 said:
Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
to be fair i make a point of never putting anything in a pocket that my phone is in.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
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I don't. Never did, and the time I went to a show and put my SII in a zippered pocket I got nasty scuffs, when the taking out.
But the pocket with the phone, is always the phone alone...

Wonderful: Our phone is the highest radiation emitter of any phone tested

It would seem that we have another first, and this one is not so good. The A1 is the highest radiation emitter of any phone tested. I'm not exactly sure what that means since there is no clear case for the radiation being harmful, but it is something to keep in mind.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/xiaomi-mi-a1-one-plus-5t-emit-most-cellphone-radiation/
This is known for quite a while, I don't think it would be much significant compared to other devices to worry about. Anyways the best a user can do is to avoid the device being near your head. Nothing more.
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pooniaprashant said:
This is known for quite a while, I don't think it would be much significant compared to other devices to worry about. Anyways the best a user can do is to avoid the device being near your head. Nothing more.
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If you're scared, you may want to avoid keeping it in your pocket, where it's close to the only thing more important than your brain for a male
BtB said:
If you're scared, you may want to avoid keeping it in your pocket, where it's close to the only thing more important than your brain for a male
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If you're scared, you should avoid sunlight because it has a lot more harmful radiation than this phone.
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Thanks to Tissot I'm infertile but I love Gcam.
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Lol, believe me. It's nothing significant compared to any other smartphone. Other than that, you made me giggle for sure [emoji23]
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Hahaha...you guys are a hoot. I'm not scared, just found it an interesting data point. Since there is scant evidence of it being harmful radiation, I'm not worried about it. But what is this about sunlight?
KB_Thailand said:
Hahaha...you guys are a hoot. I'm not scared, just found it an interesting data point. Since there is scant evidence of it being harmful radiation, I'm not worried about it. But what is this about sunlight?
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The evidence is not 'scant'. It is mixed. Visible light is one form of non-ionising radiation which is probably what the sunlight comment was referring to which is also bogus. The health effect which we are interested are Microwaves/RF/ELF, not sunlight.
Thanks Xiaomi, now im cancer free
barrack1 said:
The evidence is not 'scant'. It is mixed. Visible light is one form of non-ionising radiation which is probably what the sunlight comment was referring to which is also bogus. The health effect which we are interested are Microwaves/RF/ELF, not sunlight.
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Thanks Professor Science. Please note the WINK after my sunlight statement. And yes, I do realize that UV, X-ray and Gamma rays are dangerous if you are unlucky.
Since scant is defined as 'barely sufficient or adequate', I stand by my use of the word as there are no studies with the 'smoking gun' proving harm from the RF energy produced by cell phones, while some of the studies indicate a 'possible' harmful link. WIth all the various forms of radiation we are exposed to as modern humans, I would think that cell phones would be one of the lessor issues, but that is a hypothesis that is still open to debate.
KB_Thailand said:
Thanks Professor Science. Please note the WINK after my sunlight statement. And yes, I do realize that UV, X-ray and Gamma rays are dangerous if you are unlucky.
Since scant is defined as 'barely sufficient or adequate', I stand by my use of the word as there are no studies with the 'smoking gun' proving harm from the RF energy produced by cell phones, while some of the studies indicate a 'possible' harmful link. WIth all the various forms of radiation we are exposed to as modern humans, I would think that cell phones would be one of the lessor issues, but that is a hypothesis that is still open to debate.
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Why should the wink change the context of your statement since it was dismissive and snarky anyway?
And if you know anything about science, a smoking gun is a very high standard to reach and in any case, the level of funding for that sort of research is scant since it goes against the direction of big industry. A recent '17 rat study which was remarkable for the size of its subject population and type of brain cancer which is on the increase for humans, found cancer occuring even though the levels of radiation was below the cut-off point for heating levels which seems to go against prevailing assumptions about potential problems of non-ionizing radiation, so making an insinuation that its just like sunlight isn't helpful.
barrack1 said:
Why should the wink change the context of your statement since it was dismissive and snarky anyway?
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Coz when we talk, tone of voice matters, we can say if someone is aggressive/serious/sarcastic from tone of voice.
We use emoji in text to lighten the tension in text.
stelariusinfinitek said:
If you're scared, you should avoid sunlight because it has a lot more harmful radiation than this phone.
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Luckily enough, the part I was referring to before does not see lots of sunlight
PS: this post does not have any scientific value.

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