How long does it take for Apple to deregister you from iMessage? Not getting any texts from wife and friends who have iPhones. Deregistered last night and tonight. Anyone have past experiences?
Apple to deregister you from iMessage
some Apple devices might take some hours or weeks to recognize that you no longer use iMessage.
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How long does it take for Apple to deregister you from iMessage? Not getting any texts from wife and friends who have iPhones. Deregistered last night and tonight. Anyone have past experiences?
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I switch between the XS and the 6T on a regular basis. Once I uncheck i-message in the messages setting on the iphone and put the sim in the 6T, my texts come through instantly.
I have done this a couple times now, and what I can say is that when the SIM is IN THE IPHONE it works perfectly. When the SIM is out of the iPhone, it creates intermittent issues. Maybe it's overkill, but I have just defaulted to both turning off iMessage, then deregistering at the Apple deregister webpage all while the SIM is still in the iPhone. Then after a half hour or so put the SIM in the other phone, and have never had any problems with texts not being delivered/sent.
Someone recently lamented to me about how hard it is to leave the iGaarten with its high walls, noting Apple has an entire team of people dedicated to making it harder and harder each day ?
Leaving apple is like quitting drugs
Best strategy is to not start
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How long does it take for Apple to deregister you from iMessage? Not getting any texts from wife and friends who have iPhones. Deregistered last night and tonight. Anyone have past experiences?
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Send her a text and have her reply from that thread. Fixed.
BTW, you should have turned off imessage and facetime before switching SIMs.
Sometimes you may have to change the option in her contacts from "iPhone" to mobile. I know when my ex and I both had an iPhone, in our contacts where it said mobile, work, iPhone, etc, when I went back to Android I had to change it from iPhone to Mobile and texts worked as expected. Not sure if they changed it but this was years ago. Hope this helps.
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Leaving apple is like quitting drugs
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Now that's funny.
I think if you disable iMessage in the settings app of your iPhone, while your SIM is still in there before moving to Android, it's nearly instant.
That was my process and experience anyway.
It's a pain leaving ios I know that because I been in the ios system for like 5years or something and recently got back to android.
My major complain is why can't the online storage for apps like Whatsapp use the same service on both devices so you can transfer everything from text, voice messages, call records, pictures and so on easier then taking a unencrypted backup of your iphone, go in and take the Whatsapp folder and copy it to your new android phone and buy the app WazzapMigrator which will only handle all your text and nothing more.
Because icloud is for ios only Apple won't allow icloud on android officially and Whatsapp on ios doesn't support Google Drive as a backup option which sucks. If this option ain't presented maybe Whatsapp should have their own solution.
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How long does it take for Apple to deregister you from iMessage? Not getting any texts from wife and friends who have iPhones. Deregistered last night and tonight. Anyone have past experiences?
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You were supposed to deregister before shutting off your iphone... and it would have been almost instant, otherwise, try: https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/
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It's a pain leaving ios I know that because I been in the ios system for like 5years or something and recently got back to android.
My major complain is why can't the online storage for apps like Whatsapp use the same service on both devices so you can transfer everything from text, voice messages, call records, pictures and so on easier then taking a unencrypted backup of your iphone
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Yea, blame this on Apple. They require use of a special server, instead of a more standardized one I think.
Depending on your carrier, you may actually need to get a new SIM. Verizon, for example, is known to ship specific SIMS for iTrash that don't work exactly right when used with Android devices... It's something with how they're provisioned.
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Yea, blame this on Apple. They require use of a special server, instead of a more standardized one I think.
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I am not blaming apple just saying it's a problem and wish it would be easier.
I finally got it to work. I called Apple Support to see if my Deregister went through and got confirmation that my phone line is not going to receive any iMessages. Then read Droid-life forums and found out that the OnePlus 6T may not have CDMA radios so you have to call Verizon support and ask them to add the CDMA-LESS Roaming feature on my line. Did that and found out my phone wasn't even activated on my line through Verizon even though I was able to get calls. Got it all taken care of and now I'm back to enjoying my new phone. Love my 6T! Thanks for all your help
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How long does it take for Apple to deregister you from iMessage? Not getting any texts from wife and friends who have iPhones. Deregistered last night and tonight. Anyone have past experiences?
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It's best when switching from Apple to turn off iMessage while still using your Apple device. Use your Apple device for a couple of weeks with imessage turned off before you leave the Apple ecosystem. I'm pretty sure Apple does that on purpose to keep people from leaving their prison.
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Have you seen the BS Fart App? http://www.bsfartapp.com
It supports farting on demand, on time delay and using Text Messages or the web browser. ...Apparently it has it's own HTTP Web Server so you can just WiFi over to it and fart away.
The app also lets you do one other thing via Text Message, you can have the phone with BS Fart App installed on it call some other phone. ...This allows you to eavesdrop on your mark, so you can wait for the perfect moment before making the phone fart.
Oh yeah, and it has an iPhone like kinetic list interface. But it also works fine on none touch devices.
I'm unemployed, so please pay the reasonable $1.99 I'm asking for it. I wrote the app entirely in C#, so it requires the 3.5 framework.
Does this work properly on QVGA devices running WM6.1 or 6.5?
omg this is completely senseless..
but good fun in it's very own way somehow.
Great start, now, replace the Farting with something useful and you have a great app!
wow what a waist of a great app this could be a great app menu system,gps location ,all for farts
you application is more complicated than most applications. too bad its still just a fart application
The application really looks like some serious software. I think you should use this software as a base and create something more useful
Oh, and you might consider fart by twitter, a social web feature for your fart app (e.g. send farts to facebook) etc. ;-)
brien
love the fart machine app you made. best 2 dollars i ever spent.
i have right now only one issue....it is when i look at the webserver ip address all i get is 2 numbers.
see pic for example i posted below for my error i have.
i am running an at&t fuze aka touch pro device which is a vga display.
it also doesnt place nicely when i open in landscape mode either.
like i said before great app so far.
How do i get this if i dont live in USA?
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paypal a credit card
Dude, how did you manage to NOT LAUGH during that 9 minutes 34 presentation ?
Wont it try to send the file trough sms? Will it find its way to sweden?
Purchased Friday and still have not recieved the app file. What gives?
Feels pretty cheap... joke any one?
Outstanding.
Yours is the only (out of hundreds of) software plugged on my site for which there is no free or shareware version. That speaks for itself in terms of how impressive your work is and how awesomely talented you are.
As with Chainfire, I imagine and hope your efforts result in at least some modest prosperity and of course in your case satisfaction from all the laughs and awkward moments you're creating around the world, two bucks at a time.
One demographic you'll touch, of which I'll belong once I whip out the debit card, is those who have no intention of using your program for its intended purposes but just want to witness firsthand the complexity, sophistication and finesse of your work rather than just watching the video.
Doug
Stan City said:
Purchased Friday and still have not recieved the app file. What gives?
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I purchased this last Thursday as well. Never got a txt msg about downloading that app and sent the author 3 emails with no replies so far.
man this app is amazing!
not so much the fart part of it.. thats hilarious
but it has so much more potential!
amazing work1!
and great video haha.. tuna melt..
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I purchased this last Thursday as well. Never got a txt msg about downloading that app and sent the author 3 emails with no replies so far.
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Yep, I've been emailing them for support... they responded to the first email, last week, and nothing else since, despite repeated attempts to contact them. I'm wondering if something happened to the dude.
Folks, either something has happened to this guy, or we've been had. After a couple replies from him when I first started trying to use the app a few weeks ago, he has not responded to any of my emails in the last two weeks.
Has anyone had any success at all getting this app to start on a Touch HD? It will not start on mine. And I already paid for it. I know 2 bucks is minimal, but that's hardly the point. A couple weeks ok, Brien (the developer) promised to send me a debug version of the app so we could diagnose why it doesn't work on my phone. I've heard nothing since, despite four emails practically begging him for a reply. The last one I sent is basically just asking him if he's even alive.
I have gotten nothing from him. Purchased last week, sent emails, nothing.
Hi, I was looking into getting the iphone 4 but wanted to find out the best way to get my sms from my g1 to the sim or iphone. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
bleh why would you wanna do that??? I'd say your best bet is to find a phone store that has a cellbrite machine. Or don't be a zombie and just get a sick new Android device and don't give in to the hype of the sub-par iPhone 4.
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Hi, I was looking into getting the iphone 4 but wanted to find out the best way to get my sms from my g1 to the sim or iphone. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
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AFAIK SIM cards can only hold 20 texts, that is the least of your problems though.
As of iOS 3.1.3 you can't copy texts from the SIM to the Phone. Also there are no apps that will let you edit SMS entries on the iPhone.
In shot, it isn't feasable...
64K Sims will store 50 sms', 128K will hold 100.
the cellbrite solution as mentioned already will be your BEST bet, which can be done in the store, i doubt an Apple store will have this device, so go to the phone store.
although, if that's not a possibility, and you really wanna get down and dirty... you would have to find a way to convert the sms xml file into a database file for the iphone. i've seen some sites that can convert the iphones sms database file into xml but not the other way around...
http://insend.de/
http://faked.org/isms2droid/
if the iphone is jailbroken you could go to /private/var/mobile/Library/SMS and edit the sms.db file some how and import the xml data, but that right there just seems like a big headache. you can open that file with something like SQLite which is freeware...
Just resend all the texts you have, hahaha
Use sms backup, it wl automatically backup all your texts to your gmail account.. and then get a new android phone, cause iphone 4, while it is an amazing device, it is still locked down and has limitations to wat devs can do.
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Use sms backup, it wl automatically backup all your texts to your gmail account.. and then get a new android phone, cause iphone 4, while it is an amazing device, it is still locked down and has limitations to wat devs can do.
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I will give sms backup ago, and I will still be using my rooted g1 but I can't escape the apple lure
Well why don't you get an iPod Touch, if you seriously want the apps the iPhone has. Do you really need a phone which is overrated, forces against your will to use iTunes, has crap battery life, crap reception and absolutely locked to the hilt when it comes to writing apps for it. Not to mention if the battery goes bung, prepare to ride the shaft to get a new battery, since it can't be easily replaced. Trust me, an Android phone is more flexible. Ditto with the old WinMo 6.5 and even SymbianOS.
Mate, stick with Android and get yourself an HTC Desire, get an iPod Touch, you'll be alright. Don't believe the iHype.
Edit: realised you were from Britain, so deleted mention of AT&T. My bad.
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.
I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend
F this hangouts app. Anyone have and ideas for getting talk back... This is driving me nuts.
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go to apps in setting uninstall HANGOUTS update
Sadly I just clean flashed and clean gapps installed today... So no talk to roll back to
Sooner or later, all Talk app will be replaced with Hangout. Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
Anyways if you still insist on getting Talk, here's a link.
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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actually, the update used to say they're trying their best to bring hangout to all devices, including gingerbread.
Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
And they are adding voice chat support soon, but most likely be through Google voice. Also adding SMS support, which will take it even further beyond whatsapp.
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It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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It's an earlier release for gods sake! Compare the first day of whatsapp with hangouts and see the differences!
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To bad your not feeling it bro. I'm liking it so far . If i get SMS integration I will be really happy.
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Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Its already shows as an update on my LG Optimus 2x which is still running Gingerbread lol. Used it but uninstalled it & now back to Google Talk .
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the only thing missing from hangouts for me is the ability to see the status of my contacts (whether they are available, away, busy or offline). otherwise i have no problems with it, especially that this is still an early release, it has still a long way to go. just be patient and you'll see!
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I like the fact that it's save chat history including images. No need to backup specific folder with every ROM update.
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Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
Anyways...still looking how to get back to just straight old TALK if anyone has any other ideas.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
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A beta test is an apt description. What other plausible explanation is there for leaving out such basic features as status icons / messages and voicechat?
I can understand various media outlets / blogs being fooled by the aesthetics (read: WhatsApp lookalike), but I expect logic to prevail on this forum and justifying the loss of features amounts to fanboyism in its purest form.
enviii said:
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
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To my knowledge it doesn't work if you don't have a Google+ account.
I don't like that Google has forced users to choose between gtalk and hangouts, especially since they are listing several important features as forthcoming. I do however, understand them wanting to increase the adoption of g+ because when glass comes out the g+ features that it adds will be simply amazing and unless users are already used to, and actively using g+ they won't see any reason to have glass.
All in all I think it's a smart move by Google, unpopular yes, but still smart over the long term.
I'm just dealing with it for now, I wasn't a gtalk user so the loss of features doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'm only irked by the loss of choice.
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Hangouts sucks!
I do not like it.
In previous versions of JellyBam it can be downgraded, just uninstalling updates, but now in 8.4.0, I had to remove Hangouts, I prefer not having a Google IM than having Hangouts.
It seems that Google was bought by MS, they are doing things that show they do not care about people.
The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
This is why I personally feel root should be option on all devices. Are we to trust all the hands in our private cookie jars? I personally feel more secure with my control of my device than with large companies that are constant targets of hackers. I'm glad we have more control over what apps can access in android 6 and and 7, but still no real control what the carriers and their friends can access about our lives and what they do that info. It will be interesting to see if people end up caring enough about their privacy or maybe I'm just being too sensitive about it.
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if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Indeed. I have the unlocked S7 Edge .. no carrier or Samsung bloat installed. This Big Bro crap is just that .. crap. They also load up a diag process as part of the MyTmobile app. You don't opt out of their network testing and disable that process .. it will eat your network connection and system resources. It hit my Note 7 and made it unusable for 40 minutes. I noticed the data arrows going mad and figured this was the problem. It was. I disabled all the TMO software and this separate process and everything was good .. then recall. Not a good month all the way around.
Bubba Fett said:
The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
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Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Dr. Fed said:
Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
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And once the Pixel folks have worked out the kinks by beta testing it .. it'll get pushed out to everyone.
Anyone who thinks the Pixel will sell enough to make it work Google doing it as an exclusive feature is just nuts. Also, the folks who created Siri just got bought by Samsung so most likely by summer '17 we'll all be saying "Hey, Viv!" and all that silliness.
1iwilly said:
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
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Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
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I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
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I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
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Well at least Google gives their customers the options to turn off all of that... you just need patience to go over and READ descriptions of every single option...Google puts everything there for ppl to choose...it's just ppl are too lazy lol
What's irritating me, and I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but ever since Google stated only the Pixel would have this feature, Google Now has been crippled on Samsung phones. Used to get news, all sorts of info, now when I go to Google Now, I only get the sports teams I follow and location based stuff. I think Google is pulling a stunt to push people to the Pixel. Not cool.
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