For those of you who don't know about these new head units. It is the first headunit that is running an Android based operating system that is compatible with MirrorLink.
I can't post a link but if you google "mobile electronics magizine xav-601bt" you can find a lot of info on it.
I am curious what people are going to do with these once it is rooted, just think of the possibilities!
What are the chances we can get MirrorLink to work on all android based devices? So far it looks to only be planned for new phones but I am sure that we could change that.
Nobody else thinks this is amazing? You now can install an android based computer/audio/video in your car that you can mirror your phone's interface on!! Literally your car can now do everything your phone does, something people have wanted to do years.
I'm doing some research on the XAV-601BT right now. Saw you posted some info on another car audio site and I would like to know what you think of the unit. Such as: what apps would currently integrate an xperia pro freshly updated to android 4.** and are there any known issues with particular devices or configurations? Any mod sites messing around with getting rid of the bugs yet, safety nannies or performance wise? I can't find much besides chatter yet.
You mentioned that you had access to a unit and if it is installed could you give some details of what it is pushing and how it is performing?
Thanks allot. I am holding out for another unit that has been delayed again but this might make me pull the trigger. And yes, the prospect of running all my phone apps via my head unit makes me happy, let alone being able to root and customize.
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I'm doing some research on the XAV-601BT right now. Saw you posted some info on another car audio site and I would like to know what you think of the unit. Such as: what apps would currently integrate an xperia pro freshly updated to android 4.** and are there any known issues with particular devices or configurations? Any mod sites messing around with getting rid of the bugs yet, safety nannies or performance wise? I can't find much besides chatter yet.
You mentioned that you had access to a unit and if it is installed could you give some details of what it is pushing and how it is performing?
Thanks allot. I am holding out for another unit that has been delayed again but this might make me pull the trigger. And yes, the prospect of running all my phone apps via my head unit makes me happy, let alone being able to root and customize.
MOJoWales
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I think you don't have the right phone for it.. only Nokia and the new Samsung Galaxy S3 support Mirror Link.
I've read somewhere that Mirror Link is hardware based, but maybe it's the same technology as MHL.
Thanks for the reply. I read that the 2012 Xperias would be MirrorLink capable too. I came across conflicting information on it being implementable for smartphones that had output capabilities of uUSB and HDMI like my Xperia pro. If a phone can support RealVNP I think it should work but I'm just learning about this technology. I've got some research to do on this before I pull the trigger because I want/need qwerty with my hand size and I don't see anything similar to the pro in the pipeline that would come factory capable with MirrorLink.
Anybody know for sure what it would take to run MirrorLink on a phone like the 2011 Xperia pro?
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I think you don't have the right phone for it.. only Nokia and the new Samsung Galaxy S3 support Mirror Link.
I've read somewhere that Mirror Link is hardware based, but maybe it's the same technology as MHL.
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He is right about the S3 and nokia phones being the first supported. Windows phones and other phones are expected in the future but there is little information available. I originally heard that mirrorlink was a hardware solution but now I believe it is software. There is a good chance that it could be ported but it is going to be hard to tell until the S3 launches and some people on here start playing with it. I also hope they make an area for the XAV-601BT and XAV-701HD on this site so people can start focusing on rooting the unit as it is Android bassed.
I have used the unit and even without the mirrorlink it is an amazing unit. It literally does everything I could want in a double din head unit.
I currently have the xav-601bt i picked up from my audio shop yesterday. I also have a htc sense and the unit will only display unsuported device. Speaking with the sony west coast rep today, I was informed that there will be rollouts for the mirror link. It seems that it will be an app you can download from the play store.
The rollouts are expected to be every 60 days, but as for what phones are capable of running the mirror link protocol remains a mystery.
I offered my phone to be tested for there software but he will have to check with his higher ups about that. I am hoping that it will soon be available for download and one of the developers that crack it to work with other phones, like the netflix and hulu apps.
I am still waiting on information from the east coast rep on this as well. If I get anymore information I'll be sure to post it here.
Could you post some experiences with this unit? Do you think it's fast enough? How about the touchscreen; how well does it react to your finger and what about the sun.
There is a russian video on youtube giving a demo of this device.. not much to understand (at least for me) but at least you can see the features a little bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMxaMnfTFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9V641jTZQ
As you can see in the video, it's not as smooth as I hoped for.. sometimes you have to touch something two or three times before it works.
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Could you post some experiences with this unit? Do you think it's fast enough? How about the touchscreen; how well does it react to your finger and what about the sun.
There is a russian video on youtube giving a demo of this device.. not much to understand (at least for me) but at least you can see the features a little bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMxaMnfTFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9V641jTZQ
As you can see in the video, it's not as smooth as I hoped for.. sometimes you have to touch something two or three times before it works.
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I have this unit as well and have had it since late May. It is actually pretty responsive(for a touchscreen head unit) and boots up fast. I am coming from a x930BT which was horrible in both of these areas. The having to press more than once is more related to how accurate you need to be to hit what the unit considers the button. It is small area that accepts the input for that button, hopefully they address this in a FW update.
As for the Sun question - pretty bad, but my car has a bad location for the radio that doesn't help the problem any. The sun beats directly on the screen and it is completely washed out.
Thanks tvrvic for the reply
Hmm the sun problem is not a good thing, a lot of units have problems with that and I hoped that a big company as Sony wouldn't have this problem.
I've had this unit for a few days so far and love it. I'm order the steering wheel control adapter today. It has a matte finish on the screen and that helps the glare, I can see the screen just fine.
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I've had this unit for a few days so far and love it. I'm order the steering wheel control adapter today. It has a matte finish on the screen and that helps the glare, I can see the screen just fine.
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Thanks, I also just saw this link: http://forums.mcx7.com/showthread.php/132693-Double-Din-Sony-XAV-601BT-Install-pics! with a photo of the unit in the sun and it looks good
Now we just need to root it
Hi Guys just asking for a bit of an update - im in the uk so the bigger 701hd isnt out yet, i was looking at the Alpine ICS x-8 which also supports mirror link - there is a demo out on youtube which shows it working with the Galaxy S2! Do you guys think this would work with the S3?
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Now we just need to root it
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This head unit does not actually run Android, so there's nothing to root. It uses MirrorLink to mirror your phone's display on the head unit. You'll have to wait a few months for Clarion's double din Android head unit to release to have Android running natively on your head unit. There are some cheap no-name head units out there right now running Android, but they're poor quality and I don't think any of them are even running Gingerbread.
thanks for that info.
so the sony won't be hackable. given that, is mirrorlink's app approval mechanism hackable on the android end? does anyone know mirrorlink tech beyond:
Universal Plug and Play (UPnP™) is used for controlled access to applications. Virtual Network Computing (VNC™) is used to replicate the phone's display on the navigation screen and communicate user inputs back to the phone. Besides Bluetooth™, audio can also be streamed using the Real-Time Protocol (RTP).
MirrorLink™ also provides a mechanism that ensures only approved applications are accessible while driving.
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(from terminalmode<dot>org<slash>technology<dot>html)
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shiraz
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This head unit does not actually run Android, so there's nothing to root. It uses MirrorLink to mirror your phone's display on the head unit. You'll have to wait a few months for Clarion's double din Android head unit to release to have Android running natively on your head unit. There are some cheap no-name head units out there right now running Android, but they're poor quality and I don't think any of them are even running Gingerbread.
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I just installed this unit in my car - the Open source license page on the unit shows a lot of .apk files and also reference AOSP, and Linux 2.6.x licenses - so it is Linux
The mirror link support looks like it comes from tmlibs.so - which they published on their support site (Trying to find the links - I downloaded what they published for opensource -
the libraries they put on their site were: (Repeating tar.bz2 was their names)
EDIT: the url for the sony site is : http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Audio/XAV-701BT.html
GPL_SGX_KM_20111130.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
alsa-lib.tar.gz
dnsmasq.tar.gz
iproute2.tar.gz
iptables.tar.gz
webkit.tar.gz
kernel.tar.gz
and the most interesting
ML_Necessitas_Build.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
TmLibs.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
The TmLibs looks like it has a mirrorlink server and client embeded, using the QT libraries in the ML_Necessitas, and there is an ortpLib directory in there as well.
Would it be possible they are running some android apks within the system as the USB music app seems very androidish (menus & icons) while the ipod app not so much?
http://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/car/mirrorlink/compatibility/kw-nsx1.html
Support for the Samsung GALAXY S III is planned. Car Mode compatibility will differ by country or region.
Support for Europe was going to be available on July 20 2012.
But, Support for Europe will be delayed to August 31 2012, because of software development has been delayed.
And timing for US/Canada is TBA. Support for Asia/Middle East is TBA.
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So MirrorLink with the JVC will work at the end of August, so I guess that will also mean Sony will support it by that date.
So I want to buy an android hu that is built specifically for my car. one for a stock-like look, and other for ease of installation and compatibility with my existing setup.
So they unfortunately don't make too many that are compatible, but here is the best I could find -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...-MAZDA-6-Third-generation-GJ/32353751486.html
I don't know anything about what base model the unit is based on. I just know that it has all the latest internal specs. However, contacting the seller, while they are responsive, can't give me too many technical details it seems. They don't have a website either.
The joying units seem to have very good support both here on xda, and through the manufacturer website. Only problem is I would need to buy a universal unit to fit my car, since they don't make a custom one for it.
So, what is xda's opinion? Should I go for the custom model that has the same specs as the joying, but almost no support or info? Or should I just get the universal joying model and just customize it for my setup?
My preferred choice is the custom model, but I am worried that it will be very low quality and regularly crash like I've read about hot audio and some other low quality brands. Joying seems to be the best pure android HU to buy right now, but I am worried I'll be disappointed w/ the appearance in my car, and that it will be complicated/impossible to get it all working w/ my stock backup camera, steering wheel controls, etc.
Let me know your opinions!
From the main carjoy thread... I've made up my mind that I'm just going to buy the carjoy universal unit.
* it's over $100 cheaper than a custom unit
* good support here on xda and from the seller
* if I don't like it, I can resell it fairly easily since it's universal
I will treat it more as an experiment than a true replacement. My car is still pretty new & I don't want to feel like I'm "cheapening" it by putting in a half-baked infotainment system. At $300, I can afford to take it as a full loss if I had to. I hope my fears are wrong and I fall in love w/ it. Just so many reports of crashing, features not working well/at all, etc. I expect that it will take some effort, but I want a robust, full functioning system and I'm okay putting in the work to get it there .
Was curious if anyone was still looking at 10.1's? I have been kicking them around for a year and some change, I keep getting caught up in the stats. I see they come out with a new O/S but then have the old chipset or vice versa. What I like that I see is 8.0 O/S Octacore with 4gb but can't seem to find a brand to do it all together in a 10.1 but have it in the regular double din. The three brands I had been kicking around is Pumpkin, Joying, and started to think about Phoenix since I talked to them at SEMA but have since dropped the ball on emails about custom options. I started looking at their Telsa screen setup and was hoping to get something where I could input my car into the home screen but they didn't respond to my email.
Anyways, I would really appreciate some input because once I get a few other things on the car finished up I want to start into the stereo system. Thanks in advance, I tried adding to another thread without a response.
Slight update, finally found one that says it should have that in the main heading. But when you go into item description it shows the old info, wondering if it is just a copy paste error?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JOYING-new-2GB-RAM-Android-6-0-car-head-unit-with-video-out-2din-10-1inch/32822543398.html
I recently got the xtrons TE103AP
works pretty good: 4g ram px5 Oreo...
Figured I would bump this again since I am still trying to work all this out. I have now thought about doing 2 10.1 screens in my car, they have now bumped up the ROM to 64 with Android 8.1 but it does not have the fast boot. They say I can do the 32gb version with Android 8.0 but kinda annoys me that it is the same price. I am thinking they will be coming out with new models soon since they are now running a 10% special on their website. I would really appreciate some advice because I keep going back and forth. I did look into the Xtron but really don't like the button setup on it and it is now lacking in stats. Thanks in advance for any input
For reference these are the two units
no fast boot
fast boot model
So I've been looking for an updated version of this mcu6905:V12.22 software/firmware. The eBay seller sent me the I guess original firmware. The product info tab/button says this.
soft version:V7.3-6905BT-TP
Info: MP5QQC70PW1011F01M6905
MCU6905:V12.22
CMLPLAY ver:CMLPLAY 8.0
date:2018/12/13 17:38:19
The inside of unit says that the board is a 7018KB.
I'm not sure what it's capable of doing at all. I'm pretty tech savvy but new to firmware like this and how to tell what I use or reference for this model. Any help to ease the confusion of how to update my device or even mod it. I am really wanting/needing subwoofer control. And possibly anything cooler then this bland ass layout. Thank you. I'll add pictures as well.
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So I've been looking for an updated version of this mcu6905:V12.22 software/firmware. The eBay seller sent me the I guess original firmware. The product info tab/button says this.
soft version:V7.3-6905BT-TP
Info: MP5QQC70PW1011F01M6905
MCU6905:V12.22
CMLPLAY ver:CMLPLAY 8.0
date:2018/12/13 17:38:19
The inside of unit says that the board is a 7018KB.
I'm not sure what it's capable of doing at all. I'm pretty tech savvy but new to firmware like this and how to tell what I use or reference for this model. Any help to ease the confusion of how to update my device or even mod it. I am really wanting/needing subwoofer control. And possibly anything cooler then this bland ass layout. Thank you. I'll add pictures as well.
Well I'll have to add pics later darn phones
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So I purchased a Chinese 10.1 Android Head-unit from Amazon. It’s was specific for my 2009 Toyota Corolla. According to the seller they are stating it has Android 10.1 which obviously isn’t true per investigating. So I’m pretty well versed in rooting androids from this community. I’ll attach my specs in a picture but I’m trying to figure out what’s the misted updated version and newest root that’s working on these rn. Any help would be appreciated. I have looked in the forums and have found a lot of root versions but I’m looking for the best.
FYI I have the 2G/32G U