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is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
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Hi
is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
calling or receiving a phone call?
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Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
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Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
im curious too. is there any software like that
I also would like such a software...
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
CG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
curious george said:
Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
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Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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The reason people tell you to search is because this site, like any other activity has rules. One of them is to READ and SEARCH to find the answers yourself before you post a question that has been answered in numerous other locations. While some people may be overly aggressive in their suggestion that you use the search function, it does not make their point any less valid. There are a lot of people on this site, and all of them are volunteers. Nobody gets paid to be here. When you decide that you're gonna clutter the forum with threads and posts that have already been answered very thoroughly in easily searchable locations then it just makes it more difficult for people who actually do know how to use the site properly to find anything. So in the future, if you have an interesting idea (which you did) then do some looking to see if maybe somebody else had that same idea and post your thoughts there. That way everyone who is interested in that idea can go to one place to follow any development that happens there. Otherwise you are basically saying to all the people who put a lot of time in here, that you think your time is more valuable than their's. Which puts us in this perpetual cycle of people who don't know anything complaining because the people who do know the answers want them to learn how to find the answers rather than just giving them the answer.
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Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
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see my post above, the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it, and as you spend more time on this site you will understand why some people sometimes go overboard in their frustration. I appreciate your effort to encourage civility toward each other when we are posting.
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the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it,
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Yes it was.
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Yes it was.
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Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
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Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
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Still rude. But he was really helpful to the guy.
by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
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by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
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Agreed!! Way to put it.
bartybet said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
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I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
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No jackwad I researched at a time that S2U, Picture Flow Software, Contact Programs, and Music Players being reworked was in its prime. So, I knew that it was being overlooked. Really dude, you don't want to continue to go tit for tat with me!! You weren't even a member at that time!!!
Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
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Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
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I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
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I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
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I was less of a dip**** and it continued to happen. At least this is getting some attention that may make a noticable difference of noob's continuing down the same old path of ask questions first, search as a last result.
It would be great if the Moderators would put a sticky at the bottom of the sticky posts for this forum titled "How to Use Search before you post a New Thread" since noob's aren't even taking the time to read the forum rules. While their at it make the title of the sticky thread alway stay BOLD even if no new posts are made in it.
Hey Mods!!!! What do you think of that idea???
Curious G
help me how to root my HTC dream with build number DRD20 , i still confused please
Save yourself the embarrassment and leave the forums now.
Use the search tool or go to the Android Development.
Have you not read the thread about respecting all members?
You owe him an apology and a helpful hand to direct him to the right path.
It's only fair...
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Save yourself the embarrassment and leave the forums now.
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Have you not read the thread about respecting all members?
You owe him an apology and a helpful hand to direct him to the right path.
It's only fair...
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I don't owe anyone an apology.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=438
Read the FIRST item in post 2.
Telling him to leave isn't respecting him...
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
5. Post a message only once.
As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
7. Do not spam.
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post)
8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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No where does that say you don't have to apologize for disrespecting...
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Telling him to leave isn't respecting him...
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I'm quite certain I said read the FIRST point. It clearly states
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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And then, (I can't find it exactly right now), when you ask for help, you should be mentioning any attempts to what you have done, not just come here for freebie helps and then just bounce.
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I'm quite certain I said read the FIRST point. It clearly states
And then, (I can't find it exactly right now), when you ask for help, you should be mentioning any attempts to what you have done, not just come here for freebie helps and then just bounce.
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Pretty sure I did bud...
Regardless, you should eat your own advice. Just sayin. Respecting others in turn lets them respect you...
It's more along the lines of where it says I have to apologize.
Honestly - this post is better off locked or removed, as it is clearly off topic and is leading to flaming and unnecessary disputes.
Yay, another thread that has nothing to do with the OP.
I'm not flaming. I was at first curious to why you felt the need to be rude to him when he asked you a question when instead, you could have directed the way for him and it would have been solved.
You guide me to read the rules and yet, it seems like you yourself have not quite understood them.
Now I don't mean any disrespect in any shape or form. I'm just trying to get the noobs back by getting you/everyone to be a little bit more nice around here.
There is no need for the comment, you should leave the forums now.
What gives you the right to tell me to read the rules when you yourself don't follow them? It doesn't make any sense.
Coming from mmus.us, I am disappointed to come to this. Expecting the help and kindness I received from there was obviously a mistake.
To all members who are reading, I am sorry for any offense taken from this, but the disrespect given within these forums is out of hand at times and I feel the need to speak up...
abbiandroidid said:
help me how to root my HTC dream with build number DRD20 , i still confused please
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It depends on which direction you want to take mostly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
this is where all G1/DREAM ROMs reside and it's up to you to choose which one.
There are also guides that will teach you how to root, unroot, etc...
I personally chose CyanogenMOD for the simple fact that it was really easy to get everything setup and done.
If CyanogenMod is the road you want to take, then go here
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page
This wiki will guide you through the ENTIRE process and them some.
The odds of you messing anything up are really slim with this road.
Hope this helps you after all the wait...
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I'm not flaming. I was at first curious to why you felt the need to be rude to him when he asked you a question when instead, you could have directed the way for him and it would have been solved.
You guide me to read the rules and yet, it seems like you yourself have not quite understood them.
Now I don't mean any disrespect in any shape or form. I'm just trying to get the noobs back by getting you/everyone to be a little bit more nice around here.
There is no need for the comment, you should leave the forums now.
What gives you the right to tell me to read the rules when you yourself don't follow them? It doesn't make any sense.
Coming from mmus.us, I am disappointed to come to this. Expecting the help and kindness I received from there was obviously a mistake.
To all members who are reading, I am sorry for any offense taken from this, but the disrespect given within these forums is out of hand at times and I feel the need to speak up...
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Don't take me personally, but I've seen a lot of people that come here, register, post their main question that has been answered a million times, and then just leave.
If they actually put the effort into searching for the solution, as opposed to having someone hold their finger, the "person" will learn a lot more.
My "harshness" was brought about my Mr. 1 post - figuring that he's just like the rest. If I'm wrong, and he turns out to be the next moderator, fine...
But chances are - he won't.
You have every right to speak up, after all it's on online forum. There is no one stopping you, or impeding on your right to speak - so long as it follows the rules.
Now, in response to your post of "assistance" - there have been issues with DRD20 being rooted. Again, from searching, you'll see that the SG versions are having some difficulty being rooted from stock 1.6
It seems as if the "Gold Card" method has to be used to solve the DRD20 issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498142&highlight=drd20&page=2
Well thank you and this is all understandable. I see your point and agree. But with the experience I have from mmus, my way of thinking has changed.
I try to help even if it is a 1 post member because if I show the effort to help, it makes me look better and I might even learn something new in the process as well.
Take this for example,
akapoor said:
there have been issues with DRD20 being rooted.
It seems as if the "Gold Card" method has to be used to solve the DRD20 issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498142&highlight=drd20&page=2
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I did not know that...
The way I see it is how will you know if you didn't do anything about it?
But that is me.
You are you.
I'm not saying to change your ways. I merely suggest to think about it...
maan I really wanna see a thread get wrecked, last one was hilarious
I have no direct experience with MMUS, so I cannot account for that; however - I'm sure you had your "thinking changed." Each forum (as we can agree) helps to educate about something, whether that be old news or something new.
In fact, I'll be taking a look on those forums as well.
You mentioned:
But the way I see it is how will you know if you didn't do anything about it?
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Put that in the perspective of the OP. Referring back to 2 posts above, the OP [most likely] put minimal effort into finding a solution. If he "didn't do anything about it," "how will [he] know."
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maan I really wanna see a thread get wrecked, last one was hilarious
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Hmm maybe when one of the others gets on, oh wait all but like 3 are banned :/
But I guess that's what happens when you try to have fun
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Over at Aod (link in sig) most threads get wrecked (When in off-topic), I suggest you join and check it out
I see your point and it is one that has been made many times over on this forum. I know. At one point in time, I also had a hard time finding the search button on the top bar of almost every forum I went to. I also, didn't like to do an "endless" scrolldown of the topics. But as every other high posting member, I learned.
It is frustrating to deal with, I know. But guidance only takes about 5 mins max to type out and then you move on to the next thread.
Sorry for the off-subject conversation here...
Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
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Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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The response.
12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
Sent from the future using a surfboard
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My answer.
streamnlnl said:
Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section
Yeah I think this is a good idea
I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO
Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.
this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement
Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
Sent from my X10 using XDA App
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
Spartan117H3 said:
It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=23
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Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
Spartan117H3 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
ldeveraux said:
Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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You also seem to be of the opinion something which doesn't exist today cannot possibly exist in the future. Nice logic...
get over yourself indeed.
inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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inetquestion said:
Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
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Snarky comments? Are you talking about yourself? Look at your first response. I've even underlined it for you. Now look at the second underline. That's what you asked. And I answered your question in detail, in those links, which I'm sure you haven't read, because you wouldn't be continuing your redundant discussion. Even the moderator answered your question, and you still are insistent on pursuing a different answer just because you don't like it.
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
KennyG123 said:
Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
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And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
@landshark68
ldeveraux said:
And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
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He likes ignoring facts too, but I answered this in his other thread about petitioning for the FCC to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62406501&postcount=4
or as quoted here:
Spartan117H3 said:
...a failed bootloader exploit bricks the phone so that not even a JTAG will revive it.
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Which would nullify his entire thread of him trying to brick to unlock the bootloader.
Considering he's having "issues" bricking the phone... he doesn't have enough knowledge, just free time on his hands. He's probably going to just waste time soft bricking his phone.
But there's a simple logical explanation. If you have to unlock the bootloader to write unsigned code, i.e. a bootloader/custom rom, how would writing an unlocked bootloader work? That's like asking, how do you get the key to unlock a safe (if the key is inside the safe) so you can get your money? Replace a safe with an unlocked one? What happened to the money? Edit: on second thought, this is a slightly bad analogy, replacing the safe would be like getting the unlocked dev edition, but it still should get the point across.
He may as well just try flashing all the developer edition roms to his non dev phone (Note to new people: DO NOT do this), because those are all "unlocked firmware", exactly what he's trying to do.
He seems bent on arguing semantics, which is why I went back and forth with him but eventually stopped in his petition thread. But he's not rude like this guy, he just has a mindset that says, this is what I feel the answer should be, so it should work no matter what.
Can anyone confirm or deny the engineering bootloader works or not on Nougat beta?
Move to QA sorry mod..
The current eng kernel does not work as it is for 6.0 (marshmallow) not 7.0 (nougat) Sorry!
d33dvb said:
Can anyone confirm or deny the engineering bootloader works or not on Nougat beta?
Move to QA sorry mod..
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I'm sorry but you've been told many times that it doesn't work so I don't understand why you had to make a new topic to get the same answer.
k1ska said:
I'm sorry but you've been told many times that it doesn't work so I don't understand why you had to make a new topic to get the same answer.
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Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
d33dvb said:
Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
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I tried it and it will not work as @CyanideHD already said. The phone will just bootloop because the rooted kernel is for 6.0 and not 7.
Since it is a beta, it wouldn't surprise me if there is another engineering kernel available, just not leaked yet. I wonder how the original was found.
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Have you tried to flash it? I started the thread to discuss options, not just the first question. I really want to hear from someone who REALLY tried to flash the engineering bootloader.
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So, you really don't want correct answers by knowledgeable folks that know without trying sumpin stupid, that firmware needs a matching kernel,
Now can you tell us what you REALLY want to hear?
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez,
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So, you really don't want correct answers by knowledgeable folks that know without trying sumpin stupid, that firmware needs a matching kernel,
Now can you tell us what you REALLY want to hear?
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez,
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This is uncalled for. You could have just shut your mouth too. What value did YOU add?
How is me asking a legitimate question, that I could not find the answer for grounds for me not to procreate and call me a fool. Troll on douchebag.
And I mentioned the engineering bootloader, you really think I dont know about kernels? I was compiling them since redhat 2.0, all the way back before X.
I didnt ask about the kernel, but thanks. These kids need to stop wetting themselves, like we in the S7Verizon thread have so much to talk about, you couldnt stand a new thread.
Thank You MisterXTC and CyanideHD, I do value your advice.
You're quite welcome
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This is uncalled for. You could have just shut your mouth too. What value did YOU add?
How is me asking a legitimate question, that I could not find the answer for grounds for me not to procreate and call me a fool. Troll on douchebag.
And I mentioned the engineering bootloader, you really think I dont know about kernels? I was compiling them since redhat 2.0, all the way back before X.
I didnt ask about the kernel, but thanks. These kids need to stop wetting themselves, like we in the S7Verizon thread have so much to talk about, you couldnt stand a new thread.
Thank You MisterXTC and CyanideHD, I do value your advice.
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Many people told you and explained to you in the Nougat beta threads that it will not work yet you continued to ask when you didn't get the answer you wanted. You were no longer asking a legitimate question when you ignored the answers that you didn't want to hear and kept asking anyway. There might not be much to talk about on these boards but when you ask the same question over and over even after hearing the answer it really is just unnecessary. No one was trolling you, no one was lying to you and no one was hiding any information from you.
It sincerely boggles my mind that you ignored everyone who said it wouldn't work in the other threads. I wish there was a way to achieve root on Nougat but currently there is not and until someone far more capable develops a way, there will not be one. Continuing to ask about the engineering kernel will not help, neither will ignoring other people who are more knowledgeable than us on the subject.
You have been told multiple times that it will not work and that there is no root method for Nougat. Getting upset and offensive towards others will not help you by any means so please wait patiently as the rest of us are.
Also, Nougat is currently in closed beta. Until it is released there is almost 0 chance there will be a root for it. This thread would be more useful after it has released fully.
I wonder if the same vulnerability is in the nougat beta kernel, if so I wonder if that could be used for root on nougat. I doubt it is still available but worth a shot for those already on the beta.
I didn't get a response in the other thread so I started my own, quit being a baby about it.
Mod shut it down, the gods have spoken, not a place for questions. I forgot.
d33dvb said:
I didn't get a response in the other thread so I started my own, quit being a baby about it.
Mod shut it down, the gods have spoken, not a place for questions. I forgot.
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To be fair, you got several responses in the nougat thread. And if you didn't see them, its because you didn't read...
There is nothing wrong with asking questions, and its encouraged once you've attempted a brief search to make sure the question hasn't already been asked and answered. However, to ask a question several times in a thread, have that question answered by several people then start a new thread asking that SAME question, is looked down upon and for good reason. Just because you didn't get the answer you wanted to hear doesn't mean your question wasn't answered...
You've been around longer than I have, figured you'd know this.
Tell me kind sir, why would I want to hear what I want to hear? So I can get the worst possible outcome? I was asking TO hear an answer. I apologize that I didn't see the response, or maybe didn't validate someone who said 'wont work' with a post count of 5.
Thread closed as the OP has his answer and the thread has devolved into flaming.
Just a quick reminder:
5. Create a thread or post a message only once.
As a large forum, we don't need unnecessary clutter. You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer, revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time so it might take a while before you receive an answer.
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