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JOYING newest Octa Core PX5 Android head unit

Joying has developed the new Octa Core PX5 android car stereo,you can visit JOYING official website for more information.
For the new product,we develop some new functions:
1).It support voice control,OK Google
2).Support 4K video format
3).Support Bluetooth 4.2
4).Support Video out function

I wanted to know everyone's take on this unit... it looks superior... newer... faster.... but... how much support is there for it? I have neither the sofia or this... but I am intriguied and want to make the jump and make a decision

a_ahmed said:
I wanted to know everyone's take on this unit... it looks superior... newer... faster.... but... how much support is there for it? I have neither the sofia or this... but I am intriguied and want to make the jump and make a decision
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You're better off with the INTEL unit. Lots of cool stuff happening with that right now, including custom recovery, and replacement for all of their horrid software.
No telling yet what, if any of that, will carry through to PX5 (which also, despite being 8 cores, is 8 very very WEAK A53 cores).
Just ask yourself why they're charging LESS for the "new PX5" units than the old Intel ones....

Looks like a standard MTCD to me. The software looks identical except for the joying launcher app which would just copy over.

luciusfox said:
You're better off with the INTEL unit. Lots of cool stuff happening with that right now, including custom recovery, and replacement for all of their horrid software.
No telling yet what, if any of that, will carry through to PX5 (which also, despite being 8 cores, is 8 very very WEAK A53 cores).
Just ask yourself why they're charging LESS for the "new PX5" units than the old Intel ones....
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Tell me more about this recovery and rom ?

lowridincrew said:
Tell me more about this recovery and rom ?
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It is all here: https://forum.carjoying.com/thread-1377-current-state-of-hackishness-.html

Is there a 1 DIN PX 5 built-in type?

Naruto7g said:
Is there a 1 DIN PX 5 built-in type?
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Now we only have the 7'' double din and 9'' VW head unit with PX5,the PX5 single din will come out in the future

SummerLiu said:
Joying has developed the new Octa Core PX5 android car stereo,you can visit JOYING official website for more information.
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Does the PX5 unit have standby/resume, or some type of instant on? I did not see this mentioned on the page.
Does it have active cooling, or will thermal throttling still be an issue (as with the sofia)?

Will there be an 7" VW unit also? Some people want buttons on their radio
expecially the people who dont have steering wheel buttons. The touch screen is hard to manage while driving

azz_kikr said:
Will there be an 7" VW unit also? Some people want buttons on their radio
expecially the people who dont have steering wheel buttons. The touch screen is hard to manage while driving
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For VW special unit,we only make 9'' without buttons now,we will make other size in the future,now we have Bluetooth steering wheel control,it is very convenient to use when driving,and it can support all of JOYING head unit

Does it support RDS-AF? Your joying intel units don't support that. It is completely incorrect implemented.
Does it support rds-txt? Your joying intel units support it terribly bad, as it is mixed in an 8 byte string together with RDS-PS where the RDS-PS text always has priority over the rds-txt text.

gustden said:
Does the PX5 unit have standby/resume, or some type of instant on? I did not see this mentioned on the page.
Does it have active cooling, or will thermal throttling still be an issue (as with the sofia)?
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Yes,the PX5 has standby/resume,it only takes 2 seconds to boot up,and it almost no heat,better than the Intel

This is the link of the PX5 7'' universal head unit:mod edit - sales link removed

This is link of 9'' VW PX5 head unit:mod edit - sales link removed

SummerLiu said:
Yes,the PX5 has standby/resume,it only takes 2 seconds to boot up,and it almost no heat,better than the Intel
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Can enter and flash from recovery mode?

I hope it can do Bluetooth tethering...

SummerLiu said:
This is link of 9'' VW PX5 head unit:mod edit - sales link removed
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Hi
When will this unit be available from your European warehouse
Paul

balders01 said:
Hi
When will this unit be available from your European warehouse
Paul
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Maybe several months later, you can buy from China

Seller is promoting an MTCD PX5. Nothing new, same bugs.

Newbie needs advice :)

Hi all,
I'm totally new here and have no experience with android HU's at all!
I recently bought a Skoda Octavia (2012) with a RNS315 in it. It seems the navigation updates are quiet expensive and the navigation itself is not that good I think. So I started looking for an other device.
I would love to keep basic functions as: PDC, airco, maxidot, steer wheel controls,...
My eyes felt on the Joying android HU's, especially the ones with the look as the VM130N2. This device still have some buttons on it, which is handy in the car I think.
This model exist in the Intel Atom X3 version and the Rockchip PX5. Is the last one the better choice? (newest version I guess)
Or are there other brands that are better for (almost) the same price?
I've read the Joying HU can use some extra cooling, but installing a fan isn't that big problem I think.
Does these units display the name of the radio station on the screen? Or only the frequency?
Thanks in advance!

By trading your RNS for Joying you'll surely get better navigation, but you are going to miss:
- sound quality
- radio reception quality
- Maxidot integration (no navi guidance at all)
- overall quality/integrity
But again the whole Android world will be at your disposal. I traded my RNS510 for Joying and did not have a temptation to get it back despite all Joying's flaws.

Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?

Vennet84 said:
Other brands that are better for sound quality? (Pumpkin, Eonon,...)
The Joying HU are on Android 6 others are on Android 8, isn't it a shame to buy an older system now? Or no problem at all to update to the newest Android software?
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If you buy a Sony you definitely have better sound quality.
If you buy a Joying, buy the one without the internal amplifier, for example the VM130N2 you mention and NOT the VM130N2D. You better use an external amp to improve the sound.
I have a Joying VM130N2 and would buy either a Joying or Dasaita back.
Atom X3 (Sofia 3GR) is slightly faster than PX5, but the PX5 is 8-core. In the case of multi-threading apps (actually only Google apps), more cores might be useful on a "loaded" system. Even though the PX5 is an underperforming CPU and not better than an Atom X3, it still is the future for the coming 1-2 years as every supplier is abandoning the PX3 and Sofia 3GR, and switching to PX5.
If you want to run custom ROMs, you better choose a Joying or Witson Sofia 3GR (gtx made a very good custom rom) or a PX5 mtcd to be able to use the Malaysk custom ROM. The Joying PX5s are non-mtcd units and therefore incompatible with the Malaysk ROM.
And w.r.t. Android 8: Choose very carefully. Some units are really running 6 or 7 and only have the look & feel of Android 8.

What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?

Vennet84;76001632 vHi all said:
My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units. I've been through 5 of them in the last 10 years. First was a single din media player. It died after 3 years. Second was an ebay purchase of a Windows CE with IGO in 2011ish. Seller said it had GPS--it didn't. Then the screen died sitting on the shelf when I tried firing it up a few years later. Next I bought a Windows CE with GPS unit lasted 3 years till till DVD player died in 2015. Then the res of the unit/screen died on the shelf after trying it a few years later. Then in 2015, I got an android allwinner A13 single core 4.04/8gb storage/1gb ram. The unit died after 2 years. Plus it was so slow and under-powered, that it was a waste of time to use. Then I bought a Joying intel sofia unit in 2017 January. It was pretty good unit until it stopped working. The screen started flaking out intermittently on and off after 9 months. Joying admitted they had a fault but that they fixed it the manufacturing process but the solder joints needed repair from too many heating/cooling cycles.
I'm done with this generic Chinese junk. These units simply are not weather resistant for long term exposure to the elements in the car, and they lack decent cooling. All of this is aside from various complaints of buggy software implementations.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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Vennet84 said:
What do you think about the Dasaita HA2137-V840? Should have a better internal amp (don't know if it's true, or just publicity). Have had external amps in my car before, but don't want it in my "new" car.
Probably the dasaita isn't a PX5 mtcd?
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Look at the AMP chip. In the Joyings it is a TDA7388. Some other brand units come with a TDA7850 chip and sometimes with a Pioneer PA2030A.
Those are much better.
The Dasaita HA2137-V840 does have the TDA7850 and a better radio chip than the joyings (that is also why I mentioned that I might buy a Dasaita back. All chinese units are definitely not top-quality, but the Dasaita is slighly better).
I have really no idea whether it is an MTCD unit. Please ask Dasaita directly via mail, either via AlieExpress of via their own site www.hot-audio.com
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zipeee2 said:
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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Yeah, well. My brother bought a pioneer Android unit (can't remember which one). He had to wait 1½ year before they fixed the bluetooth issues.
So much for Pioneer. It is a mixed bag everywhere until you buy a unit of at least 750 euros/dollars.

zipeee2 said:
Vennet84;76001632 vHi all said:
My $0.02. Skip the Chinese head units.
So I bought a Pioneer unit head unit with Android auto, and so far quite happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-...86&sr=1-1&keywords=AVH-2300NEX+Multimedia+DVD
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I second that. Chinese Android head units may be a suitable upgrade for older cars but are no match for recent OEM units. And most recent OEMs include Android Auto/CarPlay support which renders manufacturer navi useless.
In your particular case, the RNS315 doesn't seem to have that but there seems to be a direct replacement, the RCD 330 Plus, that keeps all previous functionality and adds AA/CP connectivity.
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Comparation between 2 Eonon units

Hello mates,
I want to buy 2din android head unit for Mazda 6 GH 2009. Via Eonon website I can find 2 models almost similar and I don't know wich one is more powerfull, so the two options are :
1) Eonon GA9198B - PX5 1.5GHz Cortex A53 Octa-core 4GB DDR3
2) Eonon GA9298B - Rockchip PX30 1.5GH Cortex A35 Quad-Core 2GB 2GB RAM
I know is a huge difference between 2 and 4 GB ram but I don't know anything regarding those two cpus ... Any Ideea ?
Also will be much apreciated if you sugest other head unit better then those two mentioned.

Hey! I definitely recommend the PX5 over the PX30 - the PX5 is faster, more established and has lots of support on XDA. Have a look in the MTCD forum if you want to know more about these units.
I have an Eonon GA2171S which is PX5 and it is great, and there are lots of mods available. I definitely recommend installing Hal9k 3.1 ROM for full functionality.

millab said:
Hey! I definitely recommend the PX5 over the PX30 - the PX5 is faster, more established and has lots of support on XDA. Have a look in the MTCD forum if you want to know more about these units.
I have an Eonon GA2171S which is PX5 and it is great, and there are lots of mods available. I definitely recommend installing Hal9k 3.1 ROM for full functionality.
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Any reason not to go with a PX30 , I'm looking at the GA3175 as the price is good and specs seem pretty good.
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I take it you mean the GA2175? See my previous post - PX5 is faster and has much better support here at XDA for mods etc. I'm not aware of any ROMs for PX30, while PX5 has Hal9K 3.1 which really fixes all the shortcomings of these types of units.

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I take it you mean the GA2175? See my previous post - PX5 is faster and has much better support here at XDA for mods etc. I'm not aware of any ROMs for PX30, while PX5 has Hal9K 3.1 which really fixes all the shortcomings of these types of units.
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Yes GA2175, i saw your post and i'm not interested in rom availabilty as yet so thats no issue. Was wondering if i would be disappointed with it over a 2170/2170B, 2175 is currently $214 versus 2170B $274. Fitting kit for my canbus Landrover was $185 which has killed the budget a bit.

Ok fair enough, the PX30 will be a little slower, but in all there won't be a lot of difference. Screen and components will mostly be identical. Out of interest why are you getting a canbus fitting kit?
Couldn't you find a unit which fits your vehicle?

millab said:
Ok fair enough, the PX30 will be a little slower, but in all there won't be a lot of difference. Screen and components will mostly be identical. Out of interest why are you getting a canbus fitting kit?
Couldn't you find a unit which fits your vehicle?
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Nothing off the shelf and i would need the fitting kit anyway for the wheel controls and canbus integration.

hangover68 said:
Nothing off the shelf and i would need the fitting kit anyway for the wheel controls and canbus integration.
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Oh ok, yeah the ones which are made to fit certain cars generally already have the canbus functionality so don't need a fitting kit. What model land rover is it? I can see some for a 2007-2012 Freelander 2 like this:
http://xtrons.com/pb78dlrpl-android...with-7-display-custom-fit-for-land-rover.html

millab said:
Oh ok, yeah the ones which are made to fit certain cars generally already have the canbus functionality so don't need a fitting kit. What model land rover is it? I can see some for a 2007-2012 Freelander 2 like this:
http://xtrons.com/pb78dlrpl-android...with-7-display-custom-fit-for-land-rover.html
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Discovery3, i looked at that but i cant see how that would work in mine as they share the same fascia, i have ordered an Aepro kit and still deciding which head unit to buy.

Android headunit suggestions?

Looking for suggestions for single din android 7 or nwer headunits with 2GB ram minimum as I'm looking to upgrade from my ATOTO A6 and do to my setup can not go back to double din (require external eq or something mounted under the radio haven't desided) My only real requirements are 2gb ram minimum, android 7 or newer, single din and volume knob not buttons... The ATOTO A6 has lots of problems like Bluetooth doesn't work, it's slow as hell with 1GB ram and i hate the touchscreen buttons for adjusting the volume (like the back and resent buttons on the S7) I'm thinking of also upgrading to an official android auto headunit but only if it doesn't come with alot of the same problems as Bluetooth/USB single din radios from kenwood, pioneer and such.... suggestions? I have no idea what's out there but I'm ready for an upgrade...
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Here are some head unit online stores,you may find unit meet your need
Joying autopumkin Arkright Eonon
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It's 7 inch but not single din

I understand you are looking for 1 DIN unit to accommodate an external EQ but can I ask why you need the EQ? Many of the new HU come with a built in DSP that give you more options and also have faster CPUs, larger ROM and more RAM. I just ordered one that's fitted to my car with an 8 channel DSP PX5 4GB/32GB but if you can use a universal 2 DIN I believe Joying has a PX6 4GB/64GB and the Intel Sofia units are very fast too.

I'm looking for a headunit that supported by the community and getting a bit confused.
I'd prefer 2 din with hard buttons on the left (yes, I know there are a lot to chose from!)
Would something like this be a decent unit and have any custom roms?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32879727238.html
Edit1: I'm thinking about the 32gb version without the 4g modem (I tether with my phone). Is this somehow a dumb decision?
Edit2: ok, it looks like this linked unit doesnt have custom rom support yet? is the px6 the way to go? which is the best px6?

PX6 is still very new and not widely available so there's not many owners and much development on it. It would seem to be the platform of the future but who knows. Right now your best support is with PX5 and Intel Sofia. You should definitely look for something with a DSP most of the new units have one. I don't now of anything with PX5 and DSP that has physical buttons but there's at least one Intel that does you can read about it here.

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I understand you are looking for 1 DIN unit to accommodate an external EQ but can I ask why you need the EQ? Many of the new HU come with a built in DSP that give you more options and also have faster CPUs, larger ROM and more RAM. I just ordered one that's fitted to my car with an 8 channel DSP PX5 4GB/32GB but if you can use a universal 2 DIN I believe Joying has a PX6 4GB/64GB and the Intel Sofia units are very fast too.
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I require 1 din and 2 or 4 gb ram with Android 7 or newer with knob for volume not buttons... I've got an Atoto A6 and it's junk and too slow nothing works so I'm upgrading to something better... I may not put an eq under it i might just put my cb radio or something like that but not desided yet... since I've got limited space in my car I require 1din even though i could put 2 din in... I'm also using external amp for everything so all the fancy stuff in the headunit won't be used most all adjusting will be done to the amp and not headunit
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If you want to add a CB that really limits your options. This unit might be your best choice unless you can find one with a pop out panel. The line out or SPDIF output will let you enjoy the DSP goodness.

nic2k said:
If you want to add a CB that really limits your options. This unit might be your best choice unless you can find one with a pop out panel. The line out or SPDIF output will let you enjoy the DSP goodness.
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Looks good... it doesn't block anything below the radio screen? Also Does that one have rca outputs as well?
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Yes scroll down to near the bottom of the page they show you the backside and all the connections.

I ordered the Xtrons D781A from Amazon i heard good reviews of Xtrons brand radios and i like the looks of the flip out unit... I use an external amp already so i don't care of the internal amp... I'm just hoping it will be faster and less laggy then the Atoto A6 standard with 1gb ram... I'm moving the Atoto to mum's car since she only needs it for backup camera mostly
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How to guarantee MTCD/E

I'm looking to replace my aging MTCB RK3188 head unit which I've been able to keep using thanks to Malaysk's ROM so I'd like to make sure I can flash on to whatever new HU I get since it has several improvements over stock ROMs.
I've read several horror stories about people buying their head units and not being able to flash a custom ROM on them because they don't have an MTCD/E MCU and those seem to be the only ones that have any ROMs for them at the moment so I come to you guys for help in finding something that's MTCD/E and won't break the bank. Everybody seems to agree that the Dasaita Max6 is the best there is, but that's over US$400 (sometimes closer to $500) and I can't justify that amount to myself.
My requirements are universal HU, either single or double DIN (don't care either way), 10" screen, Android 9, 4GB of RAM (don't care to much about ROM) and preferably PX5 or PX6 CPU because I think anything else would get old and slow quickly.
If it has a DSP or the screen can rotate vertically it would be a plus, but I don't know how useful rotating the screen would really be so I don't mind too much.
Thanks in advance guys and let me see your suggestions.

I can think of 3 ways to guaranty it, search the forum for system info, read thru the MTCD MCU list or ask the seller if the HU has an MTC MCU or if it's made by Microntek. I guess you could just ask for recommendations here but those threads don't seem to get much response.
Personally I can tell you the Ownice K3's are MTCE and I would suggest to go for the K3 high if only for the IPS screen. The pro version is PX6 now and adds an HDMI output if that's any use to you. It is MTCP but the only difference appears to be it unlocks the full functionality of the DSP EQ. Check out their Ali store they might even have one with a custom bezel for your car.

Try Enonon they make px5 and px6 . i have px5 mtce octa core 4 gb ram 64 gb rom butt mine is 7" touchscreen double din.
Amazon has some starting under 200.00 Eincar has some
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