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root without custom recovery

Guys is that possible to root without flashing twrp recovery? Some says it's possible with magisk manager app which does not require custom recovery. I tried with kingroot but failed... Kindly help on this because I don't want to flash custom roms but I need root.

drganbds said:
Guys is that possible to root without flashing twrp recovery? Some says it's possible with magisk manager app which does not require custom recovery. I tried with kingroot but failed... Kindly help on this because I don't want to flash custom roms but I need root.
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It's impossible as you can see kingroot was also failed. You need an unlocked device with a custom installed.

drganbds said:
Guys is that possible to root without flashing twrp recovery? Some says it's possible with magisk manager app which does not require custom recovery. I tried with kingroot but failed... Kindly help on this because I don't want to flash custom roms but I need root.
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1. its impossible to root without custom recovery
2. Magisk needs custom recovery
3. I have never had any luck in rooting any of my phones using king-root. it will not work on Xiaomi Rn3 or Rn4. not sure about other device
4. Custom ROM is different and Custom recovery is different, - To root you NEED custom recovery. Custom ROM can only be installed after rooting and its purely your choice.
Hope my answer helped. Feel free to get back if any doubts

You can temporarily boot into twrp and install root if you have unlocked bootloader

talsur2002 said:
You can temporarily boot into twrp and install root if you have unlocked bootloader
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Indeed. With fastboot, you can boot into a local (ie, on your PC) copy of TWRP
Code:
fastboot boot mytwrp.img

DarthJabba9 said:
Indeed. With fastboot, you can boot into a local (ie, on your PC) copy of TWRP
Code:
fastboot boot mytwrp.img
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After issuing this cmd, it never boots into TWRP recovery. Can you pls help me.

b56r1 said:
After issuing this cmd, it never boots into TWRP recovery. Can you pls help me.
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1. Go here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re.../official-orangefox-recovery-project-t3807479
2. Follow the steps in numbers 1, 5, 6, and 8, in the "B. INSTALLATION - if you have stock miui Recovery" section (if you only want to boot, but not to flash TWRP).

MAGISK 16.0 flash problem in moto g4 plus

Hey everyone,
I tried installing magisk 16.0
firstly i did ,
unlocked bootloader,
then installed twrp recovery 3.2.1
booted the phone installed magisk manager,
then again in twrp recovery
i tried flashing the magisk 16.0,the magisk gets flashed but the phone does not boot up to system,
i dont get what mistake i am doing,
i want to use the 'CAMERA2 API' on my moto g4 plus,
and nothing else
But they say you need to root for that,
so i am trying
Please help me with this...

You need to flash a custom kernel (ElementalX) before rooting your device when using stock firmware.

In addition to thorin0815's message, you cannot root on the stock Motorola kernel - attempting to root on the hudsoncm kernel causes bootloops. You may be able to reboot to TWRP, restore your TWRP backup (you did make a backup, right?) then flash ElementalX, then magisk. If you're still bootlooping, you may have to re-flash the stock ROM then try again.

thorin0815 said:
You need to flash a custom kernel (ElementalX) before rooting your device when using stock firmware.
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Thankyou I'll try this also..

echo92 said:
In addition to thorin0815's message, you cannot root on the stock Motorola kernel - attempting to root on the hudsoncm kernel causes bootloops. You may be able to reboot to TWRP, restore your TWRP backup (you did make a backup, right?) then flash ElementalX, then magisk. If you're still bootlooping, you may have to re-flash the stock ROM then try again.
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Is this the convenient way or shall I use the apps like one click rooting ? Kingroot something..?

PushkarajK said:
Is this the convenient way or shall I use the apps like one click rooting ? Kingroot something..?
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I'm not sure if king root or the one click root would work, if they don't flash the custom kernel first you'd be back with a non booting device. Best to flash root yourself, that way you'll also learn the process too

echo92 said:
I'm not sure if king root or the one click root would work, if they don't flash the custom kernel first you'd be back with a non booting device. Best to flash root yourself, that way you'll also learn the process too
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Yes got it ,thankyou for the help:good:

help please

my oneplus 6t has the red ! warning and will not boot. i can get into the stock recovery menu and the fastboot menu. can someone please help me.
i unlocked my bootloader
installedd twrp (which i can only seem to get the stock recovery)
rooted
installed custom rom
and thats what i get when it rebooted.
am i just screwed or is there hope for my phone ?

skaroger867 said:
my oneplus 6t has the red ! warning and will not boot. i can get into the stock recovery menu and the fastboot menu. can someone please help me.
i unlocked my bootloader
installedd twrp (which i can only seem to get the stock recovery)
rooted
installed custom rom
and thats what i get when it rebooted.
am i just screwed or is there hope for my phone ?
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Go to below link, download and flash latest fastboot ROM.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-6t-t3862516
If that does not work, use MS tool to recover phone to factory state.

Thanks this worked for me. Was freaking out a little. The scene has really changed since I've been here.

skaroger867 said:
Thanks this worked for me. Was freaking out a little. The scene has really changed since I've been here.
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As an FYI, in order to root on this phone, assuming you are using Magisk (recommended) you will need to:
Unlock bootloader
Install custom rom (Optional step, but also recommended)
Then flash TWRP zip (This phone, TWRP is part of the boot.img)
Boot the phone
Reboot to recovery
Install GAPPS (OpenGAPPS Stock recommended personally, but any should work)
Then flash Magisk

sandix said:
As an FYI, in order to root on this phone, assuming you are using Magisk (recommended) you will need to:
Unlock bootloader
Install custom rom
Then flash TWRP zip (This phone, TWRP is part of the boot.img)
Boot the phone
Reboot to recovery
Install GAPPS (OpenGAPPS Stock recommended personally, but any should work)
Then flash Magisk
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Custom rom is not required for root

bladestonez said:
Custom rom is not required for root
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Correct. I edited my comment to reflect that, however since OP installed a custom rom, I put the step in since I figured he would have asked about it.

sandix said:
As an FYI, in order to root on this phone, assuming you are using Magisk (recommended) you will need to:
Unlock bootloader
Install custom rom (Optional step, but also recommended)
Then flash TWRP zip (This phone, TWRP is part of the boot.img)
Boot the phone
Reboot to recovery
Install GAPPS (OpenGAPPS Stock recommended personally, but any should work)
Then flash Magisk
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Ok so my phone currently is bootloader unlocked and rooted with magisk. So if I want to install a custom rom I flash in twrp, then flash twrp (while still in twrp), boot phone, reboot to recovery, flash gapps then flash magisk?

read the OP in any custom rom you want to flash, and the dev will have the details on how to flash..

skaroger867 said:
Ok so my phone currently is bootloader unlocked and rooted with magisk. So if I want to install a custom rom I flash in twrp, then flash twrp (while still in twrp), boot phone, reboot to recovery, flash gapps then flash magisk?
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Essentially. Each custom ROM is differrent, so make sure to read the OP of each custom ROM you try to confirm flashing instructions but that's the **general** flashing method I use. Magisk is overwritten with each flash because Magisk installs to the same partition as the kernel.

Unlocking bootloader on Orea update?

I've read around that unlocking the bootloader on the axon 7 with the orea update (B04 on A2017G) isn't gonna work and that I need to roll back to nougat (7.1) and then unlock the bootloader that way and then install TWRP.
I'm a noob and I need some help. All I want is android pie and lineage os 16 on top. So could you guys link me to some easy to follow guides on how to get pie and LOS16?
But first I need to understand why I can't just use ADB right now on the oreo axon 7 and get an unlocked bootloader. Why do I have to roll back to nougat?

B1lal545 said:
I've read around that unlocking the bootloader on the axon 7 with the orea update (B04 on A2017G) isn't gonna work and that I need to roll back to nougat (7.1) and then unlock the bootloader that way and then install TWRP.
I'm a noob and I need some help. All I want is android pie and lineage os 16 on top. So could you guys link me to some easy to follow guides on how to get pie and LOS16?
But first I need to understand why I can't just use ADB right now on the oreo axon 7 and get an unlocked bootloader. Why do I have to roll back to nougat?
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You're correct on that statement.
You can't unlock the bootloader on Oreo because there is no fastboot support with the Oreo updates. ZTE basically broke another thing. You'll need to EDL flash Nougat 7.1 and then use the EDL Tool or the A7 Toolkit to unlock the bootloader. Afterwards, you can follow the instructions in the LineageOS 16 thread, and flash in this order:
• Flash universal bootstack (Los15.1v2Universal)
• Flash the A2017G Modem
• Flash LOS16 zip
• Flash GApps and/or Magisk
• Reboot to system.
If you get an error whilst trying to flash LOS16 zip, just try flashing it again.
All the guides in the Guides section are outdated.

runninghamster said:
You're correct on that statement.
You can't unlock the bootloader on Oreo because there is no fastboot support with the Oreo updates. ZTE basically broke another thing. You'll need to EDL flash Nougat 7.1 and then use the EDL Tool or the A7 Toolkit to unlock the bootloader. Afterwards, you can follow the instructions in the LineageOS 16 thread, and flash in this order:
• Flash universal bootstack (Los15.1v2Universal)
• Flash the A2017G Modem
• Flash LOS16 zip
• Flash GApps and/or Magisk
• Reboot to system.
If you get an error whilst trying to flash LOS16 zip, just try flashing it again.
All the guides in the Guides section are outdated.
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Thanks for replying when nobody else did. Since this post was a bit old I went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP with magisk, thinking that I could install Lineage later and first I should obtain root. So I installed magisk through TWRP but now whenever I reboot it just goes straight to TWRP and I don't know how to boot into the phone. Any idea about how I can exit twrp?

B1lal545 said:
Thanks for replying when nobody else did. Since this post was a bit old I went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP with magisk, thinking that I could install Lineage later and first I should obtain root. So I installed magisk through TWRP but now whenever I reboot it just goes straight to TWRP and I don't know how to boot into the phone. Any idea about how I can exit twrp?
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Magisk doesn't work at all on stock roms unless you use a work-around. The phone not booting is because of that.
For the work-around, check out this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/kernel-magisk-17-stock-roms-t3856809
BTW, I'm not sure if this works, I've never tried it. The thread is also a bit old.

runninghamster said:
Magisk doesn't work at all on stock roms unless you use a work-around. The phone not booting is because of that.
For the work-around, check out this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/kernel-magisk-17-stock-roms-t3856809
BTW, I'm not sure if this works, I've never tried it. The thread is also a bit old.
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could it be a possibility that if I reinstall nougat 7.1 on the phone through TWRP, I'd be able to boot? Or does rooting with magisk completely disable us from installing stock roms without some sort of workaround?
My reasoning is that if the rom installs successfully then I would have booted with magisk in magisk manager and root. Maybe my rom got deleted during this process.

B1lal545 said:
could it be a possibility that if I reinstall nougat 7.1 on the phone through TWRP, I'd be able to boot? Or does rooting with magisk completely disable us from installing stock roms without some sort of workaround?
My reasoning is that if the rom installs successfully then I would have booted with magisk in magisk manager and root. Maybe my rom got deleted during this process.
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Magisk just prevents the phone from booting. It doesn't delete the rom. If you look in topjohnwu's GitHub page for Magisk, you'll find Magisk Uninstaller right next to where you download Magisk from. Download the Magisk Installer zip, move it over to your phone, and then flash it in TWRP. It'll remove Magisk and you'll be able to boot into your rom again.

runninghamster said:
Magisk just prevents the phone from booting. It doesn't delete the rom. If you look in topjohnwu's GitHub page for Magisk, you'll find Magisk Uninstaller right next to where you download Magisk from. Download the Magisk Installer zip, move it over to your phone, and then flash it in TWRP. It'll remove Magisk and you'll be able to boot into your rom again.
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Ok I've uninstalled magisk with the latest uninstaller. But now when booting up, the phone is stuck on the "please lock bootloader page" and is not proceeding further. Given that I can still use TWRP, should I just follow the LOS 16 pie instructions and install the bootstack, modem, Gapps and the zip file?
I could root the phone by flashing magisk once I'm done flashing these things right?

B1lal545 said:
Ok I've uninstalled magisk with the latest uninstaller. But now when booting up, the phone is stuck on the "please lock bootloader page" and is not proceeding further. Given that I can still use TWRP, should I just follow the LOS 16 pie instructions and install the bootstack, modem, Gapps and the zip file?
I could root the phone by flashing magisk once I'm done flashing these things right?
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Yeah, go ahead and flash Los 16.
Flash your bootstack and modem, and reboot to recovery from TWRP. The TWRP version will have changed. You need to flash latest TWRP image again, use Orden 3.2.3-0 TWRP from LOS 15/16 thread. After that, reboot to recovery and continue with the rest of the steps.
You can flash Magisk whenever you'd like, hell you could even flash it 1 year after running Los 16 haha.

runninghamster said:
Yeah, go ahead and flash Los 16.
Flash your bootstack and modem, and reboot to recovery from TWRP. The TWRP version will have changed. You need to flash latest TWRP image again, use Orden 3.2.3-0 TWRP from LOS 15/16 thread. After that, reboot to recovery and continue with the rest of the steps.
You can flash Magisk whenever you'd like, hell you could even flash it 1 year after running Los 16 haha.
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You are my saviour. You've helped me so much. But I'm scared of bricking so please don't be annoyed by me when I ask for confirmation.
So basically I installed the vendor partition using party from @Oki like the LOS 16 guide required.
But now as to the things you told me to do.
First I'll install the universal bootstack for LOS and my model specific modem from https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=270519
Once both are flashed my TWRP version will have changed so I will flash the latest version of TWRP again using fastboot
Then I'll go on ahead and install LOS 16 and GApps
THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE.

B1lal545 said:
You are my saviour. You've helped me so much. But I'm scared of bricking so please don't be annoyed by me when I ask for confirmation.
So basically I installed the vendor partition using party from @Oki like the LOS 16 guide required.
But now as to the things you told me to do.
First I'll install the universal bootstack for LOS and my model specific modem from https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=270519
Once both are flashed my TWRP version will have changed so I will flash the latest version of TWRP again using fastboot
Then I'll go on ahead and install LOS 16 and GApps
THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE.
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That's correct. Go ahead with the flash, you're welcome for the help

runninghamster said:
That's correct. Go ahead with the flash, you're welcome for the help
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YAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!
I just installed LOS 16 and everything seems to be working fine.
But the thing is I downloaded and flashed magisk through TWRP, and the installation went fine. When I booted into LOS even the magisk manager was installed.
But when I installed the root verification app from playstore, it said that the device was not rooted. Any advice? Other than that it feels so good to finally be on a custom ROM. Thanks for your help.
I wish you success and happiness from the bottom of my heart.

runninghamster said:
That's correct. Go ahead with the flash, you're welcome for the help
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Nevermind hahahahah. I checked another app. I'm rooted, forgot to grant Superuser permissions the first time.
Again thank you so much and I apologize if I was overbearing or annoying. You really helped me out and made this process much less painful than it could've been.

Android 10 and root?

I'm on Android 10. I unlocked the bootloader.. easy.. I downloaded the corresponding file for my device, software channel, version. Ran the boot img through magisk manager. So I have the patched boot img. Before I go further with trying to flash it through fastboot, I was wondering would this successfully root my device? I'm hesitant because I haven't came across anyone discussing there success in doing this with Android 10. I really don't want to proceed until I know I'm ok to go ahead. Thoughts?

Install Twrp, flash Magisk latest zip through twrp, done

HueyT said:
Install Twrp, flash Magisk latest zip through twrp, done
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Sorry to butt in but that did not work for me. Rooting with magisk removed my installed twrp. Could that be a bug in android 10 or latest magisk?

fastboot flash recovery twrp.img should permanently install twrp recovery into op7t and Magisk flash should not replace it. If you flash oos10 after that then stock recovery will replace twrp recovery

HueyT said:
fastboot flash recovery twrp.img should permanently install twrp recovery into op7t and Magisk flash should not replace it. If you flash oos10 after that then stock recovery will replace twrp recovery
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I was busy with other things and only just came back to this topic. I agree with you, HueyT, Magisk rooting
(which I do according to the Magisk directions which say to patch the boot.img and then flash it)
should not remove the permanent twrp installation on my phone. But it does
remove it on my phone! I've tried it repeatedly.
What I end up with is a rooted Moto G7 running android 10 and when I :
—power off completely
—volume down + power takes me to the stock recovery (not twrp)
—in that stock recovery if I go to the 'recovery' option I get the open android with red exclamation mark. Happens every time.
—long power hold then reboots phone to rooted android 10.
What I have not tried yet is to permanently install twrp again and then, in twrp install Magisk 23 zip. Maybe that will allow me to keep twrp installed.
Do you think so?
It is just frustrating because this is my main phone and I can't afford to mess it up.
Any other suggestions on how to keep twrp installed on the Magisk rooted phone greatly appreciated.
Thanks for replying.

Definitely

HueyT said:
Definitely
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Which I interpret as you agreeing I should try installing the Magisk zip from within twrp.
(That is not what the Magisk instructions say to do).
I will try that later today when I get a chance.
I have also not flashed copypartitions.zip. Should I?

Definitely

HueyT said:
Definitely
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A man of few words...

Yep

maybeme2 said:
Which I interpret as you agreeing I should try installing the Magisk zip from within twrp.
(That is not what the Magisk instructions say to do).
I will try that later today when I get a chance.
I have also not flashed copypartitions.zip. Should I?
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That worked.
Rooting by installing Magisk.zip from within TWRP allowed me to both root and retain the TWRP installation.
Thank you HueyT.

NP

It's been two years but I did try injecting Magisk from within TWRP. I've also downloaded "factory" images and rooted those, them installed them. If I remember right, I did the injection method with this G7. It's the best way IMHO because the installed image is tailored your your device.
Over the last two years, the Pie around here has been fantastic.

shadow460 said:
Over the last two years, the Pie around here has been fantastic.
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You can say that again. I've had several system crashes with 10, something I've never had with pie. Even after clearing cache, updating all apps, etc. So has my wife on her own unrooted G7 which just accepted Moto's own ota update to 10.
I do have a TWRP nandroid backup that I did just before flashing 10 and I've often considered going back to pie. But I worry about 'something' else going wrong like it did when moving to 10. It's my main phone and I can't afford to go through all I went through moving to a rooted 10. Wish I hadn't bothered.