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If I'm going to have to replace it, again.. What with????

Well I just went to AT&T to try the LG v20. It's as big as an iPhone 7 Plus, but I have to say I thought it was fantastic. It's screen is slightly bigger, it's brighter (!) which surprised me and when I ran gagnam style on both (always my test video) I have to say that I thought the screen was better on the v20. The whites are whiter and the Note looked yellowish by comparison. Very interesting. It's also far quicker at switching apps, as fast as the iPhone. Camera is very quick too.
Anyway just food for thought. There is life after the Note7
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Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Yeah if I have to replace my note I'm thinking the v20. Don't want the s7 edge (had it as a loaner and it was okay but not great). Only disappointment is that I won't be able to use my new gear vr. Also, at&t's version won't come with those earphones
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Mayonesa said:
Gagnam style lol nice... Thats what im considering going too. I have yet to see it so i want to actually hold it and play with it before i make a decision
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Gagnam is great as its bright, colorful and many scene changes, and you can test the sound too.
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I will take the v20, 64gb storage, 4gb ram, usb-c, 5.7 screen, android 7.0, not water resistant, but its not like you can use the note 7 for snorkeling so, I think the note 7 is done. So lets go LG
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How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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KingP1n said:
How about the new "newer" note 7....maybe available in a few weeks
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I am hoping the exynos version for all.

Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah I think I may wait to see what Samsung does to try to keep my business. My guess is that they realize this is a big pain to customers and will hopefully offer a special deal to keep them loyal. If not I will probably switch to a different brand. Not sure what yet though since there isn't much that compares.
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Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.

sireniankyle said:
Unless they have a Note 7.5, Note 8, or an S8 ready to go, I'm done. They have treated me like crap throughout this entire recall.
Probably going back to Apple this year.
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I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.

i did the same, returned Note 7 for pre order of LG V20 this morning. The camera was extremely fast, it was snapping pics as fast as I hit the button. The screen was slightly bigger, or appeared to be anyway (good thing). I like the little display on the top as well, and display looked much better than I expected. Cant wait for my order to arrive!

ShrekOpher said:
I feel ya, but I could never go back to Apple. Like being handcuffed... Just can't stand iOS, the device itself is awesome but can't stand iOS.
I still have an S7e so I will probably go back to that for the short term. I love the Note line even if it is re-branded I will look at the Note 8 next year.
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I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.

sireniankyle said:
I settled for the S7 Edge once already, because Samsung screwed up the Note 5. That's 2x in a row in my book. I don't want to go back to it, because 1.) I'm spoiled by the Note 7's 64GB plus expandable storage, and 2.) The edges are more obvious, and i do not like them at all. There's also the lack of S- pen and hdr. The Note 7 also boosts the audio for video playback, which I loved.
**I consider the Note 5 a flop, because there was no expandable storage and 64GB max onboard. The same reason that I haven't bought a 1+3. NB4 you don't need more than 64GB. If company says "Never Settle", don't tell me to settle.**
If I go back to Apple, I get the water resistance, imessage, stereo speakers, unrivaled speed, great battery life, and a home button that is not on-screen (lookin at you, Google and LG). I also lose micro sd (got 256 on-board so), fast charging, wireless charging, qhd, and certain freedoms on the software.
If Samsung would let me buy a Note 7, or if the 1+3 could take a micro sd card, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the Pixel XL is crap (my opinion), the htc 10 is too small, the S7 Edge is too curvy, and the 1+3 lacks enough storage. I know, I'm picky.
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I have been anti apple for as long as I can remember. I do not like apple for many reasons from being so constrained on a phone I own to apples business model to apples proprietary hardware etc etc. BUT this time I decided to give the 7+ a try for 1 year after i returned my Note 7. So far after 2 weeks I have absolutely nothing bad to say about my 7 Plus. It is incredibly fast, incredibly powerful and just down right does everything perfectly EXCEPT they are having some bluetooth issues with certain devices. One of those happens to be my 8.4" UConnect headunit that it is not streaming nicely with. Random skips and choppy audio when streaming music. But my headunit has ipod controls so I simply plug my 7 Plus into a usb port and stream my music that way and it charges the phone as well. If you do go 7 plus I dont think you will be unhappy with it. Also the standby time and overall battery life is outstanding. I first got a silver one then decided I want black instead so my 128GB Silver one is on ebay right this second with 2 days left in the auction. Brand new condition.

So I talked to someone I know that works for Samsung. Samsung is a business partner of the company I work for. It is not looking good. Right now there are two options being discussed internally at Samsung.
1.) Stop the production of the Note 7 ALL together and refund everyone who bought one. This is an issue because phones sold on a secondary market may be difficult to get refunds for. It also will cause many users to leave Samsung all together and go the LG V20 / Pixel / iPhone 7 rout.
2.) Do ANOTHER recall replacement. I was told a new run of the phones would be available by the end of the month to be swapped out if Samsung chooses to go down this path AGAIN. I would hope the 3rd time is the charm and this 3rd build of the phone is perfect. However this has issues as well. There is a chance some if not all of the USA carriers won't pick up the 3rd version of the phone AT ALL and not offer it as a replacement to consumers. Also if it is offered as a replacement there is still not guarantee that USA carriers will EVERY being to sell it as new again.
Both of these options leave me with a few concerns.
1.) This phone will probably NEVER have the correct software support it deserves. Meaning IF it gets the android 7.1 update in the 4th quarter of this year like it is supposed to it will probably be the only update it ever gets. Also it may not get the monthly security patches ever, which makes this not usable for my work.
2.) I do not know what Samsung can do to restore confidence with me that this 3rd version of the Note 7 will not one day blow up. I have also lost all faith in the CPSC. I mean what are they doing this time that will GUARANTEE that this version of the phone won't blow up as well. Just seems like its going to be a hard sell to me.
3.) Samsung still seems a bit short sited to me on fixing this issue. If they really want to "stop the bleeding" of loyal customers they need to focus on future product sales. Again this means leaving the Note 7 dumpster fire behind, but it also means trying to convert note 7 users into future sales. I would hope they would consider offering a discount voucher for a Samsung phone bought in the future as a part of this 2nd recall, but judging by everything I have seen coming from their company it looks like they are more worried about the now, and they are going to lose even more customers because of it.
Anyone have any other thoughts? What would it take for Samsung to get you to stay with the Note 7, or in the future consider buying a S8 or a Note 8?

What stores have the lg v20 demo?

I returned both of ours for a full refund.. Ordered an axon 7 and a oneplus 3 as replacements.

Seriously I went into my local Att store and no V20 demo unit there.
Heres my 2 cents. I came from the Note 4, and the Note 2 before that, so you can understand the waiting I had to do in order to get something amazing. The Note 7 checks so many boxes off of a long list of features that I have always found useful. The pen, the screen size and resolution as well as top specs in the cpu and ram department every time they are released. But, this one thing that kept buggin me on the newer Notes was the non-removable batteries. It was the reason I held out on upgrading the Note 4 for so long. And here we are witnessing something that is hugely affected by the decision of not including that capability.
In terms of what Samsung should have done, its obvious - they should have included a slightly smaller battery in terms of thickness and capacity in order to reduce the risk of defects. Something like a smaller/thinner 3000 mah battery would have been totally fine. Even a slightly thicker version of the 3600 mah battery and thicker chassis would have been fine as well. But my honest opinion is that devices that are catching fire are actually suffering from some slight bending in the chassis at some point after they are purchased. This most likely would be something like dropping it hard or even having it bend slightly when in a pocket. Im thinking the latter is the cause for the batteries to have warped a tiny fraction causing the layers/connectors in the batteries to warp. But this is an inherent risk with all batteries in phones I think. Its just exponentially worse the thinner you go. And if the production tolerances on both those aspects are so dang tight, expect more issues than say an Iphone which can bend all day and still not catch fire.
It would be great to see Samsung give people full refunds for international variants and exchanges through carriers like they are doing. Should they give a discount for future devices? It would be awesome obviously from a consumer standpoint. Will they actually give some discount of meaningful value? Most likely not. They are a massive multi-billion dollar corporation. I would think the Note customer base is the smaller of their top 2 devices. So even if they lose some of this crowd, there is still the massively successful S7/S7 edge crowd to bank on. Especially since we will be seeing the S8 in like 4-6 months. Its actually smart of them to stagger device releases in this case. I'm not particularly excited about anything else being released this year. Google has the specs now, but looks so boring. And that top headphone jack...just ugh. The iphone as everyone saw is just a placeholder until next year. The V20 is, well, just another LG phone. Tough decisions all around at this point.

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This store has a demo, I messed with it for a bit while my Note 7's were being returned.
7025 FM 1960 RD E STE. 100, HUMBLE, TX 77346

Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?

ShrekOpher said:
Anyone played with an Honor 8 or the ZTE AXON?
I am not a fan of LG devices.
I'm probably go back to the S7e but it's really not a great replacement.
How many people would get another replacement Note 7 if one is offered?
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I will , but I will wait to trade mine in . When they have them in the store , then I will go. I still want this phone , its why I bought it in the first place.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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Samsung Galaxy S9 is a new experience

Just had a chance to use review unit of s9 . Camera and sound has some improvement but really disappointed that battery is still same size and has not changed since s7 ... S7 edge camera is still very much capable and if u just want to upgrade from s7 or s8 for camera then its not worth it in my opinion

Rajaasim1980 said:
Just had a chance to use review unit of s9 . Camera and sound has some improvement but really disappointed that battery is still same size and has not changed since s7 ... S7 edge camera is still very much capable and if u just want to upgrade from s7 or s8 for camera then its not worth it in my opinion
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Well, the cpu efficiency has changed... more ram is added, so 3500 could actually work out definitely better than s8 plus... which isnt bad on battery,

The Galaxy S9 is my first Android Phone and I switched from an iPhone 7 to it.
This Mobile is absolutely Genius. I just love it. The Dual Sim Option was the reson for the switch but after 2 days I can say I love all the features the Galaxy S9 has. I can recommend a switch to everyone.

Dual SIM? is it the regular device?
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The Galaxy S9 is my first Android Phone and I switched from an iPhone 7 to it.
This Mobile is absolutely Genius. I just love it. The Dual Sim Option was the reson for the switch but after 2 days I can say I love all the features the Galaxy S9 has. I can recommend a switch to everyone.
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ate you using the standrd version?
is dual sim option available for all versions?

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ate you using the standrd version?
is dual sim option available for all versions?
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Dual sim is a special version of the unlocked model (or maybe the standard version of the unlocked one, I haven't checked this year). You are able to slot a second sim in place of the SD card if you want to.
After 2 days, I can say I am really impressed with everything except the battery life, and I know that will get better as it stabilizes and I am not tweaking it constantly. I am especially impressed with the new speakers and the Atmos surround - the best movie sound I have heard on a phone yet!

I got the mobile from my carrier and they said they only have dual sim phones.

Love it!
Switched over from an iPhone 6S. I borrowed a Pixel (original) and then a very old Droid Maxx (painful!)
First 48 hours with the S9 Snapdragon have been really good, I think I actually prefer TouchWiz over vanilla Android Oreo on the Pixel.
Hardware quality is outstanding. I'm in love with the screen. AOD sounded like it would waste a lot of battery but doesn't seem to. It's really useful and keeps me from turning my phone on all the time to see if there are messages.
Bixby isn't awful, but I wish it worked with Signal for messaging. I will have to see if there's some way to make the two work together.
My biggest gripe is that annoying `high volume` warning that can't be disabled. I'm streaming to my car, the signal is supposed to be set to 100%.

Yes it is love, it is possible to love a phone you attached full day and night

It's soooo gooood! I came from an S6 so the improvements are nuts. I was asking myself if loving a phone was possible just yesterday

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My biggest gripe is that annoying `high volume` warning that can't be disabled. I'm streaming to my car, the signal is supposed to be set to 100%.
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That right there is a loss of sale for SAMSUNG from me. To this day, it is my most annoying feature on my current phone. I want to punch the idiot who put this feature on the phones with no option of disabling.

kendoka15 said:
It's soooo gooood! I came from an S6 so the improvements are nuts. I was asking myself if loving a phone was possible just yesterday
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Coming from an S7, and the phone is a whole other thing, from design, speed, Infinity screen, etc. Really liking it so far!

Coming from phones like the HTC m8 and lg g5, I'm loving the Samsung rom. I do a few things to my phone such as get rid of the stock keyboard for the Google one, trash the stock launchers and do something like Nova or evie.
Things I find to be improvement over the phones I had before are the screen, sound, cameras, vibration feel, look of the phone, the water resistant rating, and the list could go on.
Battery life for me so far has been great. I know coming from an s7-8 might not feel like a large jump but compared to other phones it's a great choice.
One thing I don't like so far is knox. Every other phone I had has been fine to root and keeping features no problem.

Got the s9 last week. First Samsung phone. Kept away because of the infamous lag of touchwiz until a friend told me lag has gone after oreo update on his 8+.
Had a fully customized 6p before. I can't believe how good this phone feels. Nothing wanting and I no longer have the urge to unlock and root, something I've always done straight after getting a new phone.
There's also a promotional 2 year warranty period. Amazing. Tried the plus but don't get the affinity I have for this one.

tl;dr loving my S9
Finally pulled the trigger last week monday and got myself an S9 unlocked. Also helped that my local Best Buy was tossing in the Gear 360 for free with purchase. I also purchased a Speck Presidio Clear case for the phone but the coral blue is really nice when the back isn't smudged to the point that I'm running the phone naked: the only case I'm using for it atm is a microfiber sunglasses sack which I slide the phone into when pocketing it and place the phone on top of when setting it down on something like a table or countertop. Helps keep the glass decently clean and pretty much minimizes potential foreign particulates in my pockets scratching the glass.
That being said, this is the first phone I've had where the honeymoon period for me went by as fast as the end of the 2nd day of having the device.

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Yes it is love, it is possible to love a phone you attached full day and night
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Definitely! If you use your phone a lot it can be one of your best friends. Good camera, great design, right usability. I believe there is a million reasons why you can love your phone.

It's not love, it's attachment
You cannot love an inanimate object, you can however become so attached and reliant on one that you cannot imagine being without it, but it is not love
If you really 'love' your phone, you need locking up
I "loved" my S7, but the second I got my S9 I sold my S7, if I really loved it, I would still have it, I would still use it, I would carry it with me everywhere, I would think about it constantly, there would be no way I could allow a stranger to own it
Not love, attachment, which instantly dies when it is upgraded to a better model

Hi all,
I've upgraded from an S6 to the S9. The current trade-in promotion got me convinced, I've got a recycling discount on the S6 and a carrier discount so that smoothed the deal.
I was positively surprised by the lack of bloat on the device, it even let me choose which apps to install during the setup. I disabled all the Samsung apps. The usual bloat like Onedrive, Word, Facebook, Dropbox remained.
Its an EU device, so Exynos and ISOCELL, but I'm quite satisfied.
My S6 served me 2 years and should've been able to serve longer if it'd stop overheating, hence the upgrade. Looking forward to having the S9 for at least the same lifespan.

Like the phone and everything about it, EXCEPT that the battery sux bigtime.. I'm coming from a Huawei with a much larger battery and the S9 isn't lasting one day at all..

Anyone considering moving to the 6T from the 6?

With the fingerprint sensor under the glass, potentially even better camera's and the bigger battery I am seriously temped to sell my 6 and get the 6T when it comes out.
Anyone thinking the same as me or am I just being an idiot lol

This is XDA. We are phone people. Phone people like phones; especially shiny new phones that are currently not in their pocket. Common sense isn't really an integral part of passion. The real question is simply can you afford to buy a new phone which will be at most an incremental improvement and is thus nothing more than a new toy?

krabman said:
This is XDA. We are phone people. Phone people like phones; especially shiny new phones that are currently not in their pocket. Common sense isn't really an integral part of passion. The real question is simply can you afford to buy a new phone which will be at most an incremental improvement and is thus nothing more than a new toy?
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Affording it isn't a problem but it does depend on the resale value if I go for it i.e if the price gap is too big to warrant the extra features.

I'm absolutely getting the 6T. I'll keep my 6 for backup and modding.
The 6T looks brilliant. The 7? We'll see. I skipped the 5 and 5T from the 3T.
Never Settle right?

if there will be no headphone jack 3.5, wireless charging, bigger battery, waterproof ip68 and many more, than I wish oneplus will get bankruptcy.
galaxy s10 is the way to go, even it will definitely has retarded curved display, one of the worst intentions.
honestly, I regret that I didn't wait for note9 but at this point already having oneplus6, I can wait till galaxy s10.
this retarded stupid notch on oneplus drives me crazy everyday.
absolutely hate it.
maybe I even should sell this trash oneplus6 phone, however it works well so far.

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if there will be no headphone jack 3.5, wireless charging, bigger battery, waterproof ip68 and many more, than I wish oneplus will get bankruptcy.
galaxy s10 is the way to go, even it will definitely has retarded curved display, one of the worst intentions.
honestly, I regret that I didn't wait for note9 but at this point already having oneplus6, I can wait till galaxy s10.
this retarded stupid notch on oneplus drives me crazy everyday.
absolutely hate it.
maybe I even should sell this trash oneplus6 phone, however it works well so far.
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The S10 will have all of Samsung's bloatware preinstalled and the difference in price would be hard to justify frankly and the difference in camera quality is not as great as the price differential would make it seem.
The headphone jack for me is a non-issue I cannot remember the last time I used it however a bigger battery, under the glass fingerprint scanner, smaller notch are all good upgrades even if the cpu is the same.
Why is your OnePlus6 suddenly trash?

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The S10 will have all of Samsung's bloatware preinstalled and the difference in price would be hard to justify frankly and the difference in camera quality is not as great as the price differential would make it seem.
The headphone jack for me is a non-issue I cannot remember the last time I used it however a bigger battery, under the glass fingerprint scanner, smaller notch are all good upgrades even if the cpu is the same.
Why is your OnePlus6 suddenly trash?
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Samsung as well as oneplus has a shi...tty trash software, anyway I need AOSP.
oneplus6 cost me nearly $1000 with proper 256gb storage and galaxy s10 will be even better with 512gb, perfect size.
is going to just a bit more expensive with nearly zero compromises, I need every single possible feature on my phone, especially those features that already on my current phone MUST be on my new phone.
Retarded oneplus seo cannot get it.
I wish them bankruptcy for not delivering a proper product for already high price.

I bought the Huawei P20 Pro and am already considering selling it on eBay for the OnePlus 6T primarily though this is because i dislike the EMUI interface and missed the Bootloader unlocking train with them stopping the service. should still get £400 for it so possibly £70 out of pocket but worth it IMO. I had the OnePlus 3 and i loved that phone just not been overly impressed with the other releases of late.

krabman said:
This is XDA. We are phone people. Phone people like phones; especially shiny new phones that are currently not in their pocket. Common sense isn't really an integral part of passion. The real question is simply can you afford to buy a new phone which will be at most an incremental improvement and is thus nothing more than a new toy?
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Nicely stated...

I'm considering, however from OnePlus 3. I reckon that would be an awesome upgrade.

Also considering, but from the Pixel XL 2...

Money prepared already. From OP2 to OP6T.

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Money prepared already. From OP2 to OP6T.
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That's going to be one hell of a jump

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I'm considering, however from OnePlus 3. I reckon that would be an awesome upgrade.
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OP3T user here
why i am not tempted to buy this phone thou i badly need to upgrade since my OP3T shuts down randomly coz of heat issues.
1) no triple camera, all those rumors are false.camera will be a let down with a dual setup visav the other flagships - Honor 10 / Samsung s9 / Note 9 and pixel 3/xl
2) it is no longer a Value for money phone and flagship killer. that tag has been taken over by Poco F1
3) The price has been increasing with every new model thou the justification with 3T was a new processor. 6T will have same SD845 which is in OP6
4) I dont think an inscreen fingerprint scanner is worth the price they r going to charge.for this phone.
5) Removing 3.5mm jack is a big let down and very unlike them when they and the others made fun of iphone when it removed the 3.5mm jack.
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I shall be getting it shortly after release :good:
Development will be good and hopefully sources will be released shortly after launch just like the previous devices.
I look forward to the release

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I shall be getting it shortly after release :good:
Development will be good and hopefully sources will be released shortly after launch just like the previous devices.
I look forward to the release
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You going to keep the 6 or trade it in?

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You going to keep the 6 or trade it in?
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I shall do a trade off locally :good: I plan to get both XL & the T, lets see how XL turns up on the launch.

Funk Wizard said:
I shall do a trade off locally :good: I plan to get both XL & the T, lets see how XL turns up on the launch.
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The XL looks good but man the size of that notch will take some getting used to.

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The XL looks good but man the size of that notch will take some getting used to.
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Well if you've use to the six its just a pinch bigger than that :laugh:

Haven't made friends with the notch trend and at this point I'm not going to, that one is so huge as to be a deal breaker up front. The only reason I'm looking at this phone is because the notch is minimal and there is nothing out there I could otherwise buy. I don't want to move to a smaller screen which takes the vanilla Pixel out of the running. The Find X was interesting but it would seem a true international variant with working bootloader unlock and root may never be available. Samsung burned me with their idiotic bootloader shenanigans with the Note 8 and it will be a long time before they see any of my money again. Gets pretty thin after that. Heavy sigh...

S10+ vs. Note 9 which will last longer?

Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?
I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better CHANCE for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.
I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.
BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam. EDIT: no rooting and no custom romming for me on that device for ever.
If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?
Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?
What do You think?

No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.

Corv0 said:
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
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Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???

androidbadboy said:
Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
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What happened to your S8?

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What happened to your S8?
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When I updated trough OTA from Android 8.0 with Samsung Exp. to Android 9 Pie + One UI the pros: battery consumption went at least 3 times(!!!) the cons: S8 started lagging, microfreezing, isntt as smooth and speedy as its used to be, despite:
- very low amount of foreign apps that I installed since buying
- frequent restarts of phone as recommended
- phone has never been rooter or custom rommed

I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The note has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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Davey Dual Sim said:
I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The not has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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+! thanks points! for You!
The info about Note and S9 and eye-stare will be helpful.
How about when I use a S9 with a stylus pen instead of a finger?
As for deliberate slowing down pf phones..... I like Your attitude although I don't agree with your point of view cause when You really look at the bigger picture not only from Samsung's stand point but other brands, Google as Android manufactuer, the early 1900's story of bulbs, modern cars, everything and you return later form this wide picture to Samsung''s perspective with all that's been happening everywhere a person that is well oriented in mobile stuff and can even do some tests by himself can CLEARly see that phones are deliberately being slown down. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for instance could handle Android Pie with ease as well much more next ones if it weren't for that sad practice - of course AS LONG AS there would be no new hardware required new software feature(s) without which the Android future release would loose it's main event special funcionality.
However. I would like to hear what You and other have to say about it, cause I can see that people here make very interesting points and not often a major myth is being discovered thanks to our conversations.
Please enjoy and come in everyone

BTW is norma S10 without PLUS even a contender for Note9?

Kind people of XDA hellp me make a decision please. Write what you think

Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!

I have both devices. Battery better on the S10+. Screen better. Speed faster. Unlocks quicker and easier for me, lighter, thinner, sound is much louder , camera gas the wife mode, selfie is better. The only thing I am [not] missing is the s pen.

I had the note 9, and just got my s10 plus yesterday. There is absolutely no comparison camera wise. My note 9 was horrendous, and in any sunny out door setting it would blow out the highlights and over expose. The hdr function was **** too. S10 plus is the best phone I've ever used

I have both also but Ive only had the S10 plus for a few days so I cant make a detailed comparison yet.
What I will say is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner on the S10 needs more development..its terrible.
Hardly ever unlocks the first try and is slow when it does unlock. My Note 9 unlocks the first time every time and is instant.
Im sure sammy will improve the function with software updates but even after a few days the S10 plus is annoying me due to this.
I also miss being able to use face unlock on the S10 due to having to wear surgical gloves at work it is handy at tines, they really should have left the retina scanner on the device.
Unlocking your phone is a basic function and should work flawlessly, its just not there yet on the S10 IMO.

@ekerbuddyeker @sstanton86 @force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?

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@[email protected]@force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.

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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
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"nitpicking" - maybe you thought of not picking.
The reason I mentioned Note8 is that I just want to expriance that phone for a while and probably sell it after 3 months or who knows, everyone claims that I could get addicted to Note and never buy anything else....
I will test a bunch of flagships from many brands like Huawei, Samsung, LG, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and then decide which is the one for me. I bet it could be a Note vs. S10+ vs. a ..... Xiaomi (!!!!)

androidbadboy said:
Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.

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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?

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1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.

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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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1. Since Note's are business phones I think Samsung will give them longer time for security patches and probably +1 more Android update in compare with the Galaxy S series.
2. Note's are for businessman and You might think that they will change it every September for a new one cause they can simply afford it but I strangely enough they somehow get used to one and stay on him. I witnessed a guy that came down to the mall's electronic shop with the best Samsung device ever (Note 4) and with sad face told the sellers that he thinks it's time to change his Note4 for a newer Note because ........ damn I can't remember that cause I was so shocked.
3. Business man don't really care about having the best or latest phone. The don't have the teens or women's addiction to shopping and having everything new.
4. Businessman have a lot more on their heads than worry about a phone and I think that Samsung realizes it and that's why a Note would win in terms of longevity with a Galaxy S.
5. I am the kind of man that will not get screen burned out - too long story. Just believe me that this argument is not for me.
6.. Now it's up to which Note shall I buy. Cause S10+ will be bought eventually during 12to24 months.
7. Note8 is so cheap that I could make my dreams come true and test every brand like I mentioned a couple of posts before.
8. Please don't give up and try to fight for Note9 or Note8 or against them., cause if I don't buy any of them I could quicker roll over the competition phones by saving the money that I have for Note8/Note9.

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Samsung Galaxy S11+ renders show off huge camera bump and quad curved display
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Samsung Galaxy S11+ renders show off huge camera bump and quad curved display
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And the rendering/keyparts are reliably questioned..

Why everyone m..f phone except for the iPhone had a bezel at the bottom thicker than the one on the top? This aberration design trend is a turn off that I can't stand looking at anymore.. year after year, were are stuck in this..

Holy crap its ugly on the back...

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And the rendering/keyparts are reliably questioned..
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This is his latest tweets regarding it:
https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1203500736887185408
and
https://twitter.com/UniverseIce/status/1203653088407511040

Personally I feel Samsung is going overboard on the cameras. If the bump and the cutout are anywhere close to the final build it's way too big for my liking. I'm also reading the 3.5 Jack is gone in favor of a USB C which requires an adapter similar to iPhone. For me those are the big cons. I like what I've read regarding Qualcomm's 865 SoC but surprised the 5G modem isn't incorporated into the chipset. I've been upgrading every new model since the S6 but this may not be the case for the S11.

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I like what I've read regarding Qualcomm's 865 SoC but surprised the 5G modem isn't incorporated into the chipset.
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It seems,for now, 5G modem NOT incorporated into the chip has more advantages than disadvantages, so it's alright.

X55 5G modem not integrated into 865 is not a Samsung issue, it is Qualcomm design(or limitation). Lower end 765 chip has 5G integrated btw

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Lower end 765 chip has 5G integrated btw
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At the cost of sacrificing peak performance from both the processor and modem..

The design of the samsung galaxy a51 has just been released, it will likely be a new theme of Samsung in designing this s11 2020 series.

Good to know Galaxy Buds+ will be provided for free with the pre-booking of S20+ & S20 Ultra.

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Good to know Galaxy Buds+ will be provided for free with the pre-booking of S20+ & S20 Ultra.
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When I went to Samsung.com and signed up for the Pre-order (it's like reserving it) I think my final price after trade in was around $999 for the ATT S20 Ultra 512GB - - plus I get the Samsung Buds free - as a package deal, not too shabby. That is after the $600 trade in allowance for the Pixel 4XL I will trade in -I think that is really a very good deal. I am really excited about the new Ultra and can't wait to get it.

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When I went to Samsung.com and signed up for the Pre-order (it's like reserving it) I think my final price after trade in was around $999 for the ATT S20 Ultra 512GB - - plus I get the Samsung Buds free - as a package deal, not too shabby. That is after the $600 trade in allowance for the Pixel 4XL I will trade in -I think that is really a very good deal. I am really excited about the new Ultra and can't wait to get it.
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I agree. People (including me) have been asking for a maxed out premium phone for years - one with the best processor, huge battery, top quality display, good camera, etc. It isn't stock Android, but One UI is pretty nice. We'll know in a while if this phone checks all those boxes but it looks like it should. The price is premium but all those specs don't come cheap. I also have a P4XL. I thought about keeping it but if I can get $600 for it, it's gone. If I get the shakes from not having my Pixel I'll get a 3a or something. Yea, I'm stoked, I reserved the Ultra in gray, AT&T flavor since I like their wifi calling & hd voice. If it isn't what I'd hoped for, I'll have 2 weeks to return it. The camera will probably be the deciding factor for me. I'm pretty spoiled having a Pixel for the last few years. Kind of bummed about the battery in my Pixel this year, it's barely adequate. If I had 50% more battery I'd probably not be shopping. Sure is quiet here for a big release even if phones aren't very hackable lately.

dmb219 said:
I agree. People (including me) have been asking for a maxed out premium phone for years - one with the best processor, huge battery, top quality display, good camera, etc. It isn't stock Android, but One UI is pretty nice. We'll know in a while if this phone checks all those boxes but it looks like it should. The price is premium but all those specs don't come cheap. I also have a P4XL. I thought about keeping it but if I can get $600 for it, it's gone. If I get the shakes from not having my Pixel I'll get a 3a or something. Yea, I'm stoked, I reserved the Ultra in gray, AT&T flavor since I like their wifi calling & hd voice. If it isn't what I'd hoped for, I'll have 2 weeks to return it. The camera will probably be the deciding factor for me. I'm pretty spoiled having a Pixel for the last few years. Kind of bummed about the battery in my Pixel this year, it's barely adequate. If I had 50% more battery I'd probably not be shopping. Sure is quiet here for a big release even if phones aren't very hackable lately.
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To be honest, while I love Samsung, I have always enjoyed the Pixel - but honestly the Pixel 4XL was a dissapointment - the camera is ok - but not nearly as good as the Note 10 P lus Camera - even Night Mode on the Note 10 is better than the Pixel - IMO anyway - that said, the S20 Ultra camera is giong to be a real game changer - may even better than my Sony DSLR. LOL...

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Samsung Galaxy S11+ renders show off huge camera bump and quad curved display
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