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Essential Phone vs Oneplus 5

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to get an idea of what you all though about the essential phone vs the oneplus 5. Why you bought/or thinking of buying one over the other...

LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone

Pho3nX said:
LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone
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The essential is beautiful

If there is a decent amount of development for it, I'll most likely consider getting one

For me, oneplus 5 is the most essential phone so far!

The biggest selling point for me would be custom software development. OnePlus was always well supported. OnePlus 5 had working recoveries and root within a week from its launch.
Essential is pretty new to the game, so let's see what it can do.
Being created by Andy Rubin I assume it should be pretty developer-friendly.

What really makes the Essential phone better than the OnePlus 5? I really don't see anything outside of a bezel-less screen
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Essential has no headphone jack. A pointless device that just blindly follows the latest trends. And the kernel sources aren't released for it yet, that should give you an idea how dev friendly it is.

Caitlin550 said:
That's your opinion really. In a few years OnePlus will make a move to Meizu style, so watch your words. OnePlus 5 and older OnePlus devices are open for vulnerablities.
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Any sources to vulnerablities present in 1+ phones?

Caitlin550 said:
Headphone jack will soon be removed on other phones after 2018 or 2019
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Well I'll just be removed from the list of their potential customers.

Caitlin550 said:
Do your research and then you will find out.
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No way. You are the one who brought it up so it's up to you to defend your position. Both the OnePlus 5 and Essential run Android, and there's nothing about one device being cheaper that means it's more open to vulnerabilities.
If you're referring to the ability for App Locker to be bypassed, that's going to be resolved with a system update, and any device could have had a similar flaw
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Removing the headphone jack is kinda stupid in my opinion. Other than saving space and making it possible for the phone to be even thinner, there's no real benefit to removing it.
What's next to be removed? The charging port and force us to use wireless charging? If the phone has to sit on a stupid pad, it's not truly wireless. Unless I can walk around the house with it, while it's charging, it's not truly "wireless". Wireless means no wires, but it also implies mobility/freedom.

That has nothing to do with the OnePlus being a "cheaper" device. It's part of the compromises made for a very developer-friendly phone. I'm sure if the Essential's bootloader is easily unlocked, people will find some vulnerabilities with it as well.
Samsung and BlackBerry have focused on security for their phones, which often means locked bootloaders and limited access to modding abilities (not that it isn't possible, but once you do, you completely break their security layer (Samsung Knox, for instance).
There is absolutely nothing to suggest Essential has a security barrier like Knox, so your point is pretty much meaningless in a thread comparing OnePlus to Essential.
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I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply too big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. Plus the design of the Essential phone is very original and I love just about everything about it. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At least I've ruled out all other options, at this point.

sn0warmy said:
I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply to big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At east I've ruled out all other options, at this point.
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The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.

GCbard said:
The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.
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While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....

sn0warmy said:
While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....
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I would honestly wait until the Essential is released for general public. Those "reviews" are more like previews at the moment. So, if you're not in a hurry, wait a lil bit longer.
I heard the new Nokia 8 also runs stock android and it starts at 600€ so it may also be an option.
I am honestly satisfied with the OnePlus 5. But this is very subjective since I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 and the OnePlus 5 is a huge update.

Difference is $460 phone vs $700 phone. End of discussion.

Too many gimmicks on that device. Its a 300 dollar phone at a 900 dollar price tag. I dont see the point in accepting this newcomer. Gotta figure Rubin "left" for a reason. I doubt this thing will catch on. If Huawei cant in the us i doubt this thing can worldwide

If Essential provide sources and keep it quick it could be the phone to go for regardless of the price, After owning a OP3 for a year the software and sources have been hit and miss.. closest we'll get to a Nexus atm but Essential could be the new nexus since they provide the same support as Google on the software side, OP however it could be abandoned any time.. Let's hope Essential hit it right

Long-winded post - "Why I'm returning the Pixel 2 XL"

I received my 128GB Pixel 2 XL on Friday, and as of Saturday night, it was already back in the box and the return submitted. I REALLY wanted to love this phone. Ordered it knowing about the potential for a less than stellar display. Even though I already have a Galaxy S8+, and I don't really have many complaints about it, Samsung bloat is a very real thing, and it affects the phone in many ways. So I loved the idea of pure Google. I had a Nexus 6 many phones ago, and even with its issues it was great.
It doesn't take much for me to justify the purchase of a new gadget, I'm kind of an addict. And I don't have ANY brand loyalty, though I am definitely an Android fanboi in general. I loved pretty much everything about my Huawei Mate 9 - if that phone had waterproofing and an OLED display I’d probably still have it. I use my phone as my alarm clock at night, so the always-present backlight of LED displays is a killer for me. Need them OLED blacks!
So without further adieu - my P2XL observances, in no particular order:
CON: Display blue shift - the blue shift wasn't a deal breaker in and of itself, but it was definitely noticeable and intrusive for me. I may have gotten used to it, but combined with everything else.....
CON: Speakers - I expected more quality from the speakers. I remember the Nexus 6 sounding much better than the P2XL, and the Mate 9 even sounded much better with pseudo-stereo speakers.
CON: Ambient Display - VERY minimal and not as useful as Samsung's. Changing tracks, notifications, even having a photo on there is pretty nice.
CON: Fingerprint sensor - Not even close to as sensitive as the Mate 9. Even though the positioning on the P2XL was 942% better than the S8+ fingerprint sensor (especially since I use my phone left handed), I just couldn't get the Pixel sensor to quickly and reliably unlock each time. I was very much looking forward to having a usable fingerprint sensor. Better than the Samsung, but just positioning, not performance.
CON: Burn-in - I didn't personally notice any burn-in, but I didn't look for it either as I was pretty sure it would be there based on all the previous reviews and Google’s admission of its existence. The possibility of it being noticeable and intrusive in a matter of weeks was always in the back of my mind, and didn’t lend to confidence in the quality of the display.
CON: PRICE - 'nuff said.
PRO: Even after enjoying the displays of the Note 5, S7 Edge, and S8+, I didn't mind the P2XL colors at all. In fact I preferred it to the super-vibrant S8+ display. Accurate colors are good. They didn’t look “washed out” to me, but Samsung definitely looks exaggerated/fake/inaccurate.
PRO: Speed - there's no question the P2XL is VERY fast. For having the same processor as the S8+, it sure doesn't feel like it. Samsung lag is real, even if it's not obtrusive most of the time. With the Pixel, bang boom it's done.
PRO: Battery life - even though I only used it for 1.5 days, it was evident the battery life was going to be stellar.
PRO: Camera - no need to even go into it. Awesome. Fantastic.
PRO: Android auto was FAST. Holy crap. Very noticeable difference using AA on the Pixel vs the S8+.
I was fairly neutral on the lack of wireless charging and headphone jack. Although I use wireless charging every night, it's not much more difficult to plug in. Wireless was much more of a necessity for me with the Note 5, as the battery life wasn't good enough to last all day. Just kept it on my Qi stand at work, and never had to worry about it. not an issue with the S8+ or the P2XL, so it's moot. And the headphone jack - I already have 3 decent pairs of BT headphones, and plan on getting a good set of BT 5.0 earbuds when the "ideal" set becomes available. I rarely use wired anymore, and I don't think I'd ever really miss the jack.
So basically, I liked (not loved) the P2XL For me there were too many compromises for me to justify the premium price. Yep it’s fast, and has top-tier INTERNALS, but when you’re interfacing with a sub-par display, fingerprint reader, and speakers for hours a day, it’s just too much to pay. It’s like getting a OnePlus 5 when you paid for an iPhone X. The OnePlus is a fine device, but most wouldn’t pay almost 1k for it. If the P2XL 128GB was $600, maybe. Over $900 - no way.
TL;DR - Bottom line, just as the reviewer (and many others) stated, the quality of the device just doesn’t match the price tag. There wasn’t a single deal-breaker for me personally, but the cons all added up to make it not worth the purchase price. Keeping my eye on the Mate 10 Pro….

Bye Felicia! Nobody cares why your returning it. Get your validation from somewhere else.

evocalante said:
Bye Felicia! Nobody cares why your returning it. Get your validation from somewhere else.
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The ONLY reason I posted was for informational purposes for people who may be on the fence. If you don't care why I returned it, why did you bother to read and then comment on the thread?
I'm sure not looking for validation from the likes of you... Just posting honest, non fanboi opinions. That's all.

There's also no reason to be rude to someone expressing his opinion!!

I'm no trying to discourage you, but most of those things can be fixed with software updates. I agree with you on most, but I'm thinking they'll get fixed with software OTAs after how much bad press Google has received
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After reading this I have 1 question, did you return the S8+? You presented as many cons for it as you did the P2XL...

Ferenczy68 said:
After reading this I have 1 question, did you return the S8+? You presented as many cons for it as you did the P2XL...
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Good question. I considered it, but for the price paid (~$200 USD after T-Mo BOGO), it was a no brainer. There are certainly things I don't like about the S8+, but overall it is is a very good phone. I would probably like the Note 8 a LITTLE more, but the smaller battery and cost of upgrading are preventing it.
With a bunch of Sammy crap disabled and Nova Launcher, I'm pretty happy with it, but as most of us are, always looking forward to the next best thing. With the P2XL, I just couldn't see how it was better than the S8+ I already had. May have been a different result if I still had the Mate 9 - may have stuck with the Pixel, not sure..... Certainly not hating on the Pixel, but in comparison I couldn't justify getting rid of the S8+. Mostly because of the cost - if the P2XL wasn't so expensive, it may have been a different outcome.

bwillet said:
Good question. I considered it, but for the price paid (~$200 USD after T-Mo BOGO), it was a no brainer. There are certainly things I don't like about the S8+, but overall it is is a very good phone. I would probably like the Note 8 a LITTLE more, but the smaller battery and cost of upgrading are preventing it.
With a bunch of Sammy crap disabled and Nova Launcher, I'm pretty happy with it, but as most of us are, always looking forward to the next best thing. With the P2XL, I just couldn't see how it was better than the S8+ I already had. May have been a different result if I still had the Mate 9 - may have stuck with the Pixel, not sure..... Certainly not hating on the Pixel, but in comparison I couldn't justify getting rid of the S8+. Mostly because of the cost - if the P2XL wasn't so expensive, it may have been a different outcome.
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So then the reason you're returning it isn't for all the cons you mentioned, it's because you bought it off contract. In other words, had T-Mobile absorbed some of the cost you'd be perfectly fine with it, no?

bajasur said:
I'm no trying to discourage you, but most of those things can be fixed with software updates. I agree with you on most, but I'm thinking they'll get fixed with software OTAs after how much bad press Google has received
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If most of the issues get fixed, I may just turn around and get another one... Maybe the price will go down a bit due to the issues, or at least maybe I could pick up a used one for cheaper. I am a bona-fide phone whore, and I truly loved the speed of the phone, but for now it's the cost to benefit ratio that led to my decision. Lots of variables in that equation, including need for new gadgets, software updates, etc.

Keep it and report back after a a LSD trip...

Ferenczy68 said:
So then the reason you're returning it isn't for all the cons you mentioned, it's because you bought it off contract. In other words, had T-Mobile absorbed some of the cost you'd be perfectly fine with it, no?
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Lol money must be tight for them.

Ferenczy68 said:
So then the reason you're returning it isn't for all the cons you mentioned, it's because you bought it off contract. In other words, had T-Mobile absorbed some of the cost you'd be perfectly fine with it, no?
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I think for me it's more of a direct comparison to the S8+ I already have. If I didn't already have the S8+, I'd likely be shopping S8+ vs Note 8 vs Pixel 2 XL. Cost would still come into play, but with everything else being equal, right now I'm not sure which way I'd go. I would likely be inclined to wait it out and see if they improve the Pixel. Still may go that way too, depending on what they pull off in the next month or two. There are reasons I risked spending that kind of dough on a phone I decidedly didn't NEED, but the rewards just didn't materialize for me. Maybe that will change in the near future. Actually hope it does.

travblue said:
Lol money must be tight them.
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Nah, I could afford to just buy it outright and I wouldn't even notice it financially, but I try to be somewhat smart with my money so I can continue to afford things. There's a big difference between buying EVERYTHING you want and just buying what you REALLY want....Not saying I've never made stupid financial mistakes (usually cars), but I just need to justify my purchases. Sometimes that justification can be more emotional than logical, but I still need to think about it and make sure I'm making a smart decision for myself...
Yep, I'm the guy who uses spreadsheets to make decisions about many, many things.

galaxys said:
Keep it and report back after a a LSD trip...
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I think the super-vivid display of the S8+ would be better for an "enhanced experience"..... woohoo!

bwillet said:
Nah, I could afford to just buy it outright and I wouldn't even notice it financially, but I try to be somewhat smart with my money so I can continue to afford things. There's a big difference between buying EVERYTHING you want and just buying what you REALLY want....Not saying I've never made stupid financial mistakes (usually cars), but I just need to justify my purchases. Sometimes that justification can be more emotional than logical, but I still need to think about it and make sure I'm making a smart decision for myself...
Yep, I'm the guy who uses spreadsheets to make decisions about many, many things.
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Okay noted

Pros and cons reads like a list of reasons to buy the 2XL. Haha. Cons - issues are overblown, but the phone is a little pricey. Pros - phone is actually amazing.

evocalante said:
Bye Felicia! Nobody cares why your returning it. Get your validation from somewhere else.
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Incorrect. The OP's observations are both reasonable and presented in a fair way. These comments may not sway some users, but it might sway others who are still on the fence and care about apecific features/functionality mentioned by OP. No device is perfect of course, including the Pixels. We learn more from a single critical review than from hundreds of 'I love it' posts. You may not care about OP's experience (and that's fine!), but it certainly isn't a unanimous opinion.

Interesting impressions on the fingerprint reader. The fingerprint reader on the Nexus 6p and OG Pixel were possibly the fastest and most accurate around. Many reviews I've seen mentioned it's actually gotten better/faster than OG pixel. Maybe fastest in any phone. Possibly, your device had a faulty fingerprint reader?
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eep2378 said:
Interesting impressions on the fingerprint reader. The fingerprint reader on the Nexus 6p and OG Pixel were possibly the fastest and most accurate around. Many reviews I've seen mentioned it's actually gotten better/faster than OG pixel. Maybe fastest in any phone. Possibly, your device had a faulty fingerprint reader?
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It is. The fingerprint reader works perfectly. This is an obvious troll post to sway sentiment away from the 2XL. So transparent it's ridiculous.

Snow02 said:
It is. The fingerprint reader works perfectly. This is an obvious troll post to sway sentiment away from the 2XL. So transparent it's ridiculous.
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Okay.....
Certainly possible the fingerprint reader on mine is less than ideal. I have nothing to lose or gain by posting my opinions. I couldn't care less if you buy a pixel or don't. For me it wasn't the right phone, but it may be for the rest of you. And nowhere did I say it was a horrible, terrible, no good phone. Don't understand why a select few of you get so butthurt over dissenting opinions. Most here, even if they disagree, have been interested in discussing. That is what most adults do. <snarky comment about reading comprehension redacted>. Hell, I would certainly hope someone who is keeping an expensive phone loves it! For ME, the love wasn't there, so I didn't keep it. Pretty simple concept for most.
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Returned my Pixel 2 for this phone, am i crazy?

I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.

DanDroidOS said:
I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp

LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now

mackentosh said:
The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.

xocomaox said:
Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.

spotmark said:
Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.

Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch

I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk

I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!

Upgrade to OP 5t

Hey guys,
I'm thinking about upgrading from my OP 5 to the 5t.
Do you think that it's worth it?
After all, the price didn't change at all for the two versions.
I'd not pay much that much on top when selling my current OP5.

Wait for 6.

They've already confirmed the 6 is coming at Quote, "Near the end of quarter two."
I'm personally going to be sticking with the 5 myself unless the 6 has something that blows everyone's socks and hats and pants off. I love OnePlus a lot but these incremental upgrades need to stop. They need to add MORE. Put more battery in, lower the price add RAM better camera, SOMETHING. The 5t is my least favorite oneplus phone because they changed the screen and moved the fingerprint back. Big deal. The oneplus 5 lasts longer in terms of battery now but thats expected, the screen on the 5t takes up more space on the same body.
Its not an upgrade to me, its more of a preferential thing. I love bezels, they add places to grip the phone. Bezelless is not good for someone like me with shaky hands. That's just my opinion. But the fact is, it would be nice to see better improvements on newer models. Especially so the reputation of the "T" reigns strong.

I'd wait for the 6T. Even though they said there probably won't be a 6T.
But that's what they said about the 3T - a one-time thing only. And here we are, talking about a 5T...

I want 5T for the design. I really like the screen with small edges up & down.

User422 said:
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about upgrading from my OP 5 to the 5t.
Do you think that it's worth it?
After all, the price didn't change at all for the two versions.
I'd not pay much that much on top when selling my current OP5.
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Avoid like the plague, you'd be spending another £500 on smaller bezels ? Why would anyone want to do that. Not only that but you will probably have worse battery life due to the larger and higher resolution screen..
For me it's a no brainer to stick with the 5.
After what they did with the 5T (5 month upgraded model and made the 5 obsolete ) the 6 has to be unbelievable for me to commit to buying it.
Personally I can't see it, so it's back to HTC for me.

dladz said:
Avoid like the plague, you'd be spending another £500 on smaller bezels ? Why would anyone want to do that. Not only that but you will probably have worse battery life due to the larger and higher resolution screen..
For me it's a no brainer to stick with the 5.
After what they did with the 5T (5 month upgraded model and made the 5 obsolete ) the 6 has to be unbelievable for me to commit to buying it.
Personally I can't see it, so it's back to HTC for me.
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Forget it. I don't plan on doing it anymore anyway ^^
The OP5 is perfectly fine.

Rhoban said:
I'd wait for the 6T. Even though they said there probably won't be a 6T.
But that's what they said about the 3T - a one-time thing only. And here we are, talking about a 5T...
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I'd probably even wait for the 7T.
Not because of the cost.
I wanted the 5T but had to admit to myself that it doesn't make sense buying a new phone when mine is perfectly fine.
I'm sticking with my OP5.

User422 said:
Forget it. I don't plan on doing it anymore anyway ^^
The OP5 is perfectly fine.
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I know it is, you asked!! Nvm
Update your op if you don't want more answers.

whats wrong with poeple nowadays.
ban

Upgrade P2XL to P5....Pointless?

Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?

Since our security updates will end this month, I plan to upgrade for those and take advantage of the strong T-Mobile 5G signal in my area.

amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
If you only now just saw the specs you haven't been following the news. You likely also do not understand why Google didn't go with the 865/865+ in the two devices.
For me, it boils down to which features I consider more important. Right now I'm leaning towards the P5 simply because of the aluminum body, but the 4A 5G and its headphone jack is compelling. I think in the end, it's going to boil down to "do I want to pay the extra $200 or not?"

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Coming from the 2XL... The 5 is an upgrade. As far as the ppi... https://www.androidauthority.com/chasing-pixels-810926/ this article from AA is very good and I'm sure I won't notice it much. But I am going to wait for reviews and actually see it side by side

In case you missed topjohnwu's tweets:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1311370798267990016
Ive never been one of the sheeple, the people who buy into aspirational technology (people who aspire to own somehting because its new and everyone else has one), so its not even a decision for me. Im a fucntional user, if a device performs the functions i need it to, im happy. The only reason i ever upgrade devices is when one is dead, or very much close to being....
I do not get the "new device every 6 months" buyers...i just dont, i think thats insanity
Personally i look at the lines of sheeple at Apple Stores on every release and weep for humanity, and the planet which gets raped to bring people ovepriced (thanks to Apple - they are the root of all evil, not least because they overprice their products, thereby forcing everyone in the market to follow suit, because to do anythign less is to be seen as inferior, so blame Apple, i do, asshat comapny) devices they dont really need
Pretty much the forumula is: new phone = new camera that takes pictures of an even more distant galaxy, hmm very useful in every day life
Some people in some countries have way too much spare money if theyre buying new phones all the time
Im sticking with what works for me, not a corporations bottom line, thanks

Also this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4a-5g-pixel-5-great-value-in-us/

I loved the Pixel 5. I think Google made a small decision to stick with full hd resolution simply because you don't notice as such if the panel is good. It's easy on the battery. It will be easy on the chipset and provide consistent performance.
Pixel 5 does not lack anything as such. The only thing i was a bit disappointed was ufs 2.1 storage. Other than that I'm loving the Pixel 5. I'll get it maybe this Christmas or so!

The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
Forgot about wireless charging too, but personally I've never owned a phone that had wireless charging, so again, not a big deal for me yet.
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sharkie405 said:
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
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I second your thoughts here. 4a5 is certainly a better handset and not much hard hitting on the pocket too!

So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews

ZombieUsr said:
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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ZombieUsr said:
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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I am changing my mind to OnePlus 8 Pro too, I can go to swappa.com and get for less price than P5 with taxes. I am seriously considering going back to iPhone. Google has been using the same camera sensor hardware since the Pixel 2 came out. That means if Google ported the sofware algorithms to the Pixel 2 it would take pictures the same if not damn close to being the same.

after being a 4 year pixel 2 xl owner... the pixel 5 feels like a natural successor. Jut my opinion though

i currently use a pixel 3 because i prefer the size but im pretty much done with the pixel series. the cost is far too high and the features are less and less. the 4 had no fingerprint reader..... so i was thinking of getting a Zenfone 7. great size, great amount of ram........ EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! but after seeing the OnePlus Nord N10, i might change my mind. ill have to see after the first reviews but it has what i want/need in a phone. google is just too obsessed with trying to either win the apple crowd, or become like apple.
maybe if they ever add features like expandable storage ill buy another pixel but the odds of that happening are not good. knowing google, theyll probably give up on the pixel line after the pixel 7 so i plan on holding on to my Panda Pixel indefinitely.

Okay i changed my decision probably.
I don't think i'll be getting Pixel 5 solely because of outdated hardware. Only if they had upgraded the camera sensors i'd have gone for it. The current sensor is at the end of its life.

I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.

Get rid of P2-XL?
amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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Depends on your battery. After October, no more OTA's from Google.
If your battery is good, between updates from Google Play Store and LineageOS, I think the phone
would be plenty secure. I plan to keep using mine for awhile. running LineageOS

YoshiFan501 said:
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
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lol Flat screen is such a bliss. My next phone will be a flat screen. I am tired of this curved look and miss touches due to the curve

I went from. The p2xl to the 5, it's definitely an upgrade for me. I love how smooth it feels with the extra ram and 90hs screen, the SD765g has no trouble giving me a great experience on the couple games I do play, (pubg and genshin impact) the battery life for me is about double what the 2xl was and I'm happy to know I'll be getting monthly security updates for the next three years. There are still a couple things I don't like. The top behind the screen speaker is just so-so, far inferior to the 2xl's stereo front firing speakers. However I don't watch or listen to much without headphones or a bt speaker anyways and it does fine for calls. they removed a feature I did actually like.. active edge, I miss sweezing to activate assistant rather than saying hey Google or swiping the corner but still not really a deal breaker for me just so thing to get used to.
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