Nexus 7 (2012) battery issue? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have a Nexus 7 (2012 version) that my daughter-in-law gave me (several years ago) because it would not boot. i previously reinstalled the OS and she was good for a while until the issue resurfaced. so i'd like to reinstall the OS again or install the successor to CyanogenMod.
however, the tablet will not even try to boot now when i turn it on, even if it is plugged in. all that i see is some backlighting. what i would like to know is if this could be due to a battery that is completely dead and can not be charged. i could buy a replacement battery for about $15 but really don't want to waste my money if the tablet should at least boot up when it is plugged in.

gwa000 said:
i have a Nexus 7 (2012 version) that my daughter-in-law gave me (several years ago) because it would not boot. i previously reinstalled the OS and she was good for a while until the issue resurfaced. so i'd like to reinstall the OS again or install the successor to CyanogenMod.
however, the tablet will not even try to boot now when i turn it on, even if it is plugged in. all that i see is some backlighting. what i would like to know is if this could be due to a battery that is completely dead and can not be charged. i could buy a replacement battery for about $15 but really don't want to waste my money if the tablet should at least boot up when it is plugged in.
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It wouldn't boot up if the battery is completely discharged (and dead), even if you plug in. When was the last change of battery done? If it is the initial one which came with the device, it is likely that the battery is dead.

@gwa000 there is another glitch with the battery of the Nexus 7: if the battery is drained too much, it's not even charging. I ran into a similar situation some time ago and I solved it be disconnecting the battery and re-connecting it again. After connecting the charger I finally got the charging animation.

AndDiSa said:
@gwa000 there is another glitch with the battery of the Nexus 7: if the battery is drained too much, it's not even charging. I ran into a similar situation some time ago and I solved it be disconnecting the battery and re-connecting it again. After connecting the charger I finally got the charging animation.
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i think that this was the problem, that the battery was drained to much and would not even try to charge. i previously tried disconnecting/reconnecting batter to no avail.
came across this and this solved the problem:
laptopdoctor.wordpress.com/2015/08/26/jumpstarting-battery-in-bricked-google-nexus-7-tablet-from-asus
it partially charged the battery and i was able to complete the charge normally.
now i can at least boot up (sort of). i get the spinning circles ("boot loop"). i've tried the normal Recovery Mode options to no avail so i'll have to reload the OS. i have a feeling that there is a RAM (i.e. memory) or Flash memory (file storage) issue as this has happened before. but i'll post questions concerning those in another thread.
thanks!

I've run into this issue plenty with my Nexus 7 since it isn't used much.
You can plug the Nexus 7 into a 2Amp or greater charger that is on a switch of some sort (power strip, wall switch, etc) and flip the switch on and off roughly every 3 seconds (turn it on until you see the backlight flicker for a second, then turn it off, repeat). For me it takes about 2-3 minutes of doing this and then I get the charging animation.
If you don't have a switched outlet available, removing the USB from the charger (NOT FROM THE NEXUS) and plugging back in works as well, just more tedious.
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gwa000 said:
came across this and this solved the problem:
laptopdoctor.wordpress.com/2015/08/26/jumpstarting-battery-in-bricked-google-nexus-7-tablet-from-asus
it partially charged the battery and i was able to complete the charge normally.
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That solution is terrifying. 5V USB is NOT a good way to supply voltage to a lithium cell. If you have a dedicated lithium charger and connected direct that would be one thing but I would suggest never doing what that website suggests again, as unregulated voltage can cause a lithium cell to explode.

pizzaboy192 said:
I've run into this issue plenty with my Nexus 7 since it isn't used much.
You can plug the Nexus 7 into a 2Amp or greater charger that is on a switch of some sort (power strip, wall switch, etc) and flip the switch on and off roughly every 3 seconds (turn it on until you see the backlight flicker for a second, then turn it off, repeat). For me it takes about 2-3 minutes of doing this and then I get the charging animation.
If you don't have a switched outlet available, removing the USB from the charger (NOT FROM THE NEXUS) and plugging back in works as well, just more tedious.
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That solution is terrifying. 5V USB is NOT a good way to supply voltage to a lithium cell. If you have a dedicated lithium charger and connected direct that would be one thing but I would suggest never doing what that website suggests again, as unregulated voltage can cause a lithium cell to explode.
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believe me i was sort of apprehensive about doing it and only did it for two 15 minute cycles!! if it happens again i'll try your method. when i was trying to charge it normally i was using my Nexus 7 (2013) charger which outputs only 1.35A (since my daughter-in-law never gave me her charger). i ended up completing the charge using my Asus laptop charger which is 2.0A (which is what the original Nexus 7 (2012) version used). don't know it i tried using the 2.0A charger from the outset would have allowed it to charge. my impression is the that amperage only affects the speed of charging. plus from what i read on the net if the battery gets in a deeply discharged state the normal charging would not work. although i will try your method should this re-occur.
thanks!

gwa000 said:
believe me i was sort of apprehensive about doing it and only did it for two 15 minute cycles!! if it happens again i'll try your method. when i was trying to charge it normally i was using my Nexus 7 (2013) charger which outputs only 1.35A (since my daughter-in-law never gave me her charger). i ended up completing the charge using my Asus laptop charger which is 2.0A (which is what the original Nexus 7 (2012) version used). don't know it i tried using the 2.0A charger from the outset would have allowed it to charge. my impression is the that amperage only affects the speed of charging. plus from what i read on the net if the battery gets in a deeply discharged state the normal charging would not work. although i will try your method should this re-occur.
thanks!
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Glad it's working! I use an old HP touchpad charger or an Anker charger for all my devices.
The underlying cause of it not booting is due to the battery having smart protection so it doesn't explode when it gets too low. A multimeter will say 0v on the battery controller output, but if you were to probe the actual battery cell output it may be anywhere from 1.8v to 3v. I'm not sure the exact cutoff voltage. If the physical cell was at 0v it would never recharge, it would just explode once power is applied.
The method online and my method both do the same thing. We shock the smart controller and trick it into charging. My method is a trickle charger method, where regulated charging voltage is applied for a few seconds safely until the tablets charging circuitry detects if the battery is OK or not. The 3 seconds it takes to flash the display is that initial test. When it fails the test the charging circuitry shuts down.
By blasting 5v into what is probably a 3.3v (or 6.6v) circuit, you're doing the same thing, but just bypassing the tablet charge circuitry that shuts down when it can't see the battery.
I will say the toggle power to the charger method works for anything that has a battery, to a point. I've had it work for windows tablets and laptops, iPods and iPads, even the occasional USB battery bank.

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It's dead!

My battery went flat and I can't find my mains charger, so I connected it to my laptop using the usb cable, with the intention of recharging it. But it doesn't seem to be charging and I can't turn it on at all. Is that normal? Will it only recharge from a mains charger when the battery's dead? Finally, is it safe to by any odd charger off ebay etc.?
I do not know if that is normal or not. However with regards to charging, I have used a Motorola charger with USB connection successfully in the car and from the mains.
If it is all the way dead, you have to charge with original charger. USB charge will not work. Nor will a Motorola charger work. I think that as long as the charger is 5volts, you should be okay. My Motorola charger is like 3v or something.
Thanks
I had the same problem. It does not charge in the beginning, however, if you leave it connected to USB, it will start charging in an hour or so. damn long, but it's better than nothing...
Tried to keep it connected via usb for a few hours, no luck, guess I'll just have to wait till I've bought another mains charger. There seem to be plenty of cheaper ones on ebay etc., is it safe to buy any usb charger?
This happened to me, and I nearly had a heart-attack until I came to these forums for a solution. Apparently, the phone has to be on for the charger (mains or usb) to actually charge the phone. This is because the operating system of the phone controls the charging of the phone. If the battery is completely dead, the operating system cannot control the charging, and so no matter what kind of charger you use, and no matter how long you leave it plugged in, you won't be able to charge the battery.
The only way to get it to work is to get a bit of charge into the battery directly - not through the phone. In other words, you need to jump start the battery (almost like you would jump start a car's battery). What I did was take the battery to a phone repair shop, and asked them to boost the battery using boosting equipment. Their battery testing equipment will be able to tell you when there's sufficient charge to get it going. Then turn on the phone and plug in the charger immediately once it's booted up (in other words, when the operating system can kick in and start controlling the charging process).
Hope this helps.
PS, there's a post on this forum somewhere on how to do-it-yourself, but in the long run, I found my way to be the easier way.
PPS. Once your phone is back up and running, never let the battery run down completely.
Same happens to Motorola V3.
It is ridiculous design flaw.
This is really annoying, I was hoping to sort this out with a new charger (in the post now) but looks like I'm going to have to go to a t-mobile shop. Will they definitely have something to charge the battery a bit, or should I start looking into buying something to charge the battery at home?
Yes you need the main charger.
I was using my other phones charger(motorola) with my cingular 8125 and battery is completly empty it doesn't charge it.
Didn't wait for a hour but if that works.It's good i love my wizard
motorola V3 chargers do work. used the missus' when battery ws completely dead. interestingly, doesnt work the other way around...... :?:
help with my dead battery
Bdcol
Could you direct me to that post on how to charge a dead battery - I have searched but can't find it. This is a really annoying problem - does anyone know of a commercially available battery charger which doesn't need the phone OS (the battery looks pretty standard to me).
Many thanks
Chris

[Q] Battery Charging - Current Draw When Complete

Guys, I'm hoping someone familiar with LiPo battery charging can give me some insight. I've done some diagnostics, and I'd like your take...
- Nexus 7 3G, purchased a few weeks ago. 4.2.1, not rooted, stock charger and cable
- Battery life seems good, fully charges and discharges 'normally'
- I usually charge with the device powered off (ie: blocky battery icon in the middle of the screen).
However....
- On two occasions now, I've left it on the charger for a long time (>15 hours) and have come back to a dead device.
- Pressing the power button doesn't bring up the blocky battery icon.
- Holding the power button for 30+ seconds brings the device back back.
- It has otherwise never failed to boot properly during normal use.
Out of curiosity, I was wondering if there was something wrong with the charging process causing this, so
- I plugged the stock charger into my Kill-A-Watt last night to monitor the charging current.
- Even 8 hours after the device finished charging (via the blocky icon), the current never dropped to zero - it stuck around 10mA on the AC side (ie: ~1.2W).
- My first N7 (sent back for a bad speaker and dead pixels) went to zero after charging. My iPad does the same.
QUESTION(S):
I know modern LiPo batteries have internal circuitry to prevent overcharging, but does it sound like that circuitry might be defective on mine such that I should be worried about overcharging? Could that be the reason for my lockups?
I really don't want to go through the return process again if I don't have to. I'd rather just live with it if I can prevent damage by taking it off the charger when complete. Thoughts? Opinions? Have any of you done this test, and if so, does yours go to zero?
Thanks for any insight!
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However....
- On two occasions now, I've left it on the charger for a long time (>15 hours) and have come back to a dead device.
- Pressing the power button doesn't bring up the blocky battery icon.
- Holding the power button for 30+ seconds brings the device back back.
- It has otherwise never failed to boot properly during normal use.
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That might be a possible cause... Leaving any device plugged in the charger for long periods of time is not recommended. Anyway have you tried charging the tablet with another charger with a higher output? If it refuses to turn on even after holding the power button for 30 seconds you might be able to "wake" it up by using a higher output charger. Thats what I did on my Nexus 7 when the battery level went too low.
cr0wnest said:
That might be a possible cause... Leaving any device plugged in the charger for long periods of time is not recommended. Anyway have you tried charging the tablet with another charger with a higher output? If it refuses to turn on even after holding the power button for 30 seconds you might be able to "wake" it up by using a higher output charger. Thats what I did on my Nexus 7 when the battery level went too low.
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Hmmm...everything I've read has indicated that Lithium Ion/Polymer batteries can be left on a charger without damage since they have internal circuitry to prevent overcharging (although I realize a constant topping off is probably not wise in the long run). As for a charger with a higher output, I thought the stock charger was 2.1A....I've never heard of a 3A or 4A USB charger. Can you clarify what you mean?
Also, as I said, on the two occasions it has locked up, holding the power button has brought it back, so I'm not really asking about how to get it back if it locks up - I'm asking if the behavior (locking up, charge current not dropping to 0) is indicative of a battery that has faulty overcharge protection.
Thanks though!
The "charger" IC inside the N7 not only charges the battery but at the same time powers the device - it should allow use of a N7 with no or a faulty battery. I've never looked at the standby settings on the N7 but I would suggest that is where your 1W is going. The only info about the IC I know is http://www.summitmicro.com/prod_select/summary/SMB347/SMB347.htm
Added I think this is an identical TI version of the chip http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusaw5a/slusaw5a.pdf
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The "charger" IC inside the N7 not only charges the battery but at the same time powers the device - it should allow use of a N7 with no or a faulty battery. I've never looked at the standby settings on the N7 but I would suggest that is where your 1W is going. The only info about the IC I know is http://www.summitmicro.com/prod_select/summary/SMB347/SMB347.htm
Added I think this is an identical TI version of the chip http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusaw5a/slusaw5a.pdf
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Thanks - that's good info. However, since I have been charging with the device off, it would seem to me that it shouldn't be drawing any standby current...unless just the act of charging puts the unit in a form of standby. It also still doesn't explain why my first unit went to 0A a while after charging completed, while this one doesn't. I'm now wondering if I may be looking at roundoff error. The resolution of the kill-a-watt is .01A - which is what I'm seeing. It could just be that both units drew some current after charge completion, but this one pulls marginally more.
So, my question still stands. Does anyone familiar with LiPo technology know if this sounds like my overcharge protection circuitry is faulty? Is it normal for a device that has completed charging to draw SOME current, and if so, how much? Would someone else with a Kill-A-Watt be willing to try this and let me know what you see?
Thanks again for the help guys...
Just in case anyone is still following this thread, I have some new info. I charged my N7 last night POWERED ON.....and after charging was complete, the AC current draw went to 0A. I'm starting to wonder now whether the 1.2W constant power I saw when charging powered off is the power needed to keep the charging circuitry alive while the tablet is powered off. When the device is powered on, maybe this circuitry is running off the battery allowing the AC draw to go to 0A. I have absolutely nothing to support this, so it's just a guess/hypothesis, but at least I know my N7 is behaving the same as my first one. I also loaded Simple Battery Logger while doing my last charge and all looks normal....it charged up to about 4.208V, indicated 'full', then the voltage start dropping off - which tells me that it stopped charging. It also maintained a temp of about 23C throughout the process. I'm running a battery test right now and it doesn't seem to have been damaged by my overnight charging episodes...if anything, the battery life is better than when I first got it.
I'm going to let it go here and assume all is well. If anyone does any experiments with theirs, I'd be interested in seeing the results.
Thanks again!

[Q] Overnight: Charging to 100%, then discharging while still connected?

Hi there,
got a strange problem.
I plug in my N4 in the evening, it is loading up to 100% and there it begins to DISCHARGE (or in other words, stops to hold the battery at 100%) although still connected to the charger. In the morning I unplug the phone and have just around 70% left ... see attached screenshot.
Using stock charger and cable that came with the phone.
I hope this is not intended by Google? Running Android 4.2.1 Stock.
is this the only time it happened?
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
Sent from my Nexus 4 in a Faraday cage
KyraOfFire said:
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
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Thanks! Used my equipment (powered USB hub with another micro USB cable) from old phone until yesterday, and read about charging problems when NOT using the charger and cable that came with the N4. To see if that is maybe the problem I therefore unpacked the "stock" cable and charger - but it didn't solve the problem.
The most strange thing is, that it charges perfectly up to 100%! I would expect then that it stops charging to avoid overloading, but that holds the charge level at 100% until unplugged. I think this logic is not within the charger, but controlled by the phone itself (Software / Hardware Unit)?
IINexusII said:
is this the only time it happened?
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Have the N4 about 1 week now and I realized this happening at least 4 times now. I'm usually plugging it in every evening and unplug it in the morning.
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Locksmith81 said:
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Hmmm ... never experienced this 15 years mobile phones (at least 4 of them using Android and tons of different ROMs ...). What would be the purpose to plug in your phone in at 22pm, stop charging at 1am and begin the fresh day at 7am with again 30% loss of capacity? I would need to carry my charger stuff all day with me ...
As I said, I fully understand that it stops charging at 100% to avoid overloading - and also see the sense in this here -, but usually it should HOLD it at 99-100% until you unplug and not lose capacity while still connected to the charger.
Cheers
did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
Just found this one ... maybe I'm not explaining my case very well, but it seems I am not alone ...
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39919
beegbear said:
did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
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UZ7 said:
This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
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Yesterday I used the wall plug. All the years before I used a SEPARATELY POWERED usb hub. Even if the PC is shut, the hub provides power to the ports. Anyway, it doesn't matter - Charging is working perfectly on wall plug, usb hub, stock cable, non-stock cable ... before reaching 100% and phone disscharges. Picture in 1st post illustrates the disscharge while still "charging" (last bar at the bottom)
it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
beegbear said:
it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
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Exactly what I would expect! Now that I found the others on code.google.com having the same issue I think there was a batch of devices having it and that I might need to RMA ...
Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
Are you using stock kernel?
UZ7 said:
Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
Are you using stock kernel?
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I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! The "event" invoking the disscharge to me is the reach of 100%. Maybe this is a misbehavior of the overloading protection, to stop charging (as intended), but not restarting to charge at lets say 99% or 98% to get back to 100%. This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnectfrom time to time to trigger the charging again.
Traxter said:
I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnect once and then to trigger the charging again.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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I see definitely some issues in the charging logic in both of our cases here. You shouldn't have to replug your phone if you send your PC to sleep, as long as it still outputs the USB power. Since I would not expect the decision to charge or not to charge in the wall plug or in the USB hubs, I can only hope it is not a hardware problem of the charging electonic, but a software problem which could be patched. Also wouldn't I wonder if this has to do with the wireless charging option of the phone ...
come to think of it i had the same problem. charging from the PC when off via USB it would do the same thing as OP. charging through the wall works fine.
Well just found out I am maybe reposting the issue as I didn't find this initially ... similar (or same?) problem described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031246

[Q] Charging Nexus 10...

I`m represantate 4pda thread of Nexus 10. Lots of people experience troubles with charging our Nexus (including me).
Using native charger in turned off tablet it gave only 50% in 8 hours (in my way)
Others say approximately the same.
I have root, unlocked boot, use Gravity Box (xposed). (It would be normal if my case were sporadic, but...)
Do you know any solve of situation?
I am also experiencing this lately. I'm not sure if it's from the kitkat update or not, but same story here, I leave my tablet charge overnight and when I get up it's at 75% after at least 7 hours of charge. I tried stock kernel, thunderkat and ktmanta, didn't solve the problem.
I've ordered and waiting for N10. I was going to immediately unlock, flash stock 4.4 then root and apply Kernel
I've also ordered a Pogo cable as owners seem to get a faster charge, also to reduce wear on the microusb. I assumed I would be using the supplied microusb PSU?
I've had a N7 for 17 months and on it if I was using it, even with 2Amp PSU, it would often just hold its charge, so not gain charge, when used, I'd have to leave it screen-off to charge. So with N10, you've got experience even when OFF (powered off, not just screen blank) it isn't charging? That sounds weird. If however, it is simply screen off, then go to your battery and see which app is keeping your power consumption up and do something about that app surely???
I noticed it immediately with the micro USB cable and stock charger I have been using since I got mine (just after release). Usually 1100-1700 mA charging. I noticed the minute I updated to 4.4 that my charging averaged 600-800 mA on the USB. After an 8 hour charge it was like 46 percent. It really scared me, thought my tablet was going. I tried switching cables/chargers. Stayed the same.
I switched to the stock wall wart and the pogo plug and it jumped right back to 1700-1800mA till 80 percent charge and then starts dropping. Something it had never done with the pogo. I had to search drawers to find the pogo since I had given up on it's poor performance. It has always been about or less than 1000mA, which is why I always used the usb charger. It seems to be much faster charging now, but only with the pogo. USB barely seems to provide enough power to maintain the charge!
That was the first day on 4.4 manual update, haven't checked since that minor update to krt16s to see if it changed. The pogo seems to be quicker than any charging was.
Yeah my problem also appeared arround the kitkat update.

Nexus 10 battery draining faster than charging when in use - fixable?

Hi,
I just picked up a used Nexus 10 for an app I'm building. I specifically needed this tablet as it an NFC reader both on the front and back of the device. Everything was great until I realized that the battery drains faster than it charges with the screen on and in use. I am using the POGO charger with what I believe is the stock Samsung plug (output 2A).
I've done some searching and it seems that this is a known issue with this tablet. Are there any known solutions?
Will buying and installing a new battery remedy this? I don't even necessarily need it to charge back up, I just need it to hold steady at its current charge while the screen is on and in use. Thank you!
OK, I realized this is because I simultaneously have a micro USB cable plugged in to a serial device and am using the Nexus 10 as an OTG host device - so even though it shows charging, it's actually not charging at all it appears hence the draining. If I unplug the micro USB device (which supplies its own power, even), the Nexus 10 begins incrementing battery %, slowly but surely.
I will try getting a Y cable for the micro USB portion per a thread I found on androidcentral.

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