My battery went flat and I can't find my mains charger, so I connected it to my laptop using the usb cable, with the intention of recharging it. But it doesn't seem to be charging and I can't turn it on at all. Is that normal? Will it only recharge from a mains charger when the battery's dead? Finally, is it safe to by any odd charger off ebay etc.?
I do not know if that is normal or not. However with regards to charging, I have used a Motorola charger with USB connection successfully in the car and from the mains.
If it is all the way dead, you have to charge with original charger. USB charge will not work. Nor will a Motorola charger work. I think that as long as the charger is 5volts, you should be okay. My Motorola charger is like 3v or something.
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I had the same problem. It does not charge in the beginning, however, if you leave it connected to USB, it will start charging in an hour or so. damn long, but it's better than nothing...
Tried to keep it connected via usb for a few hours, no luck, guess I'll just have to wait till I've bought another mains charger. There seem to be plenty of cheaper ones on ebay etc., is it safe to buy any usb charger?
This happened to me, and I nearly had a heart-attack until I came to these forums for a solution. Apparently, the phone has to be on for the charger (mains or usb) to actually charge the phone. This is because the operating system of the phone controls the charging of the phone. If the battery is completely dead, the operating system cannot control the charging, and so no matter what kind of charger you use, and no matter how long you leave it plugged in, you won't be able to charge the battery.
The only way to get it to work is to get a bit of charge into the battery directly - not through the phone. In other words, you need to jump start the battery (almost like you would jump start a car's battery). What I did was take the battery to a phone repair shop, and asked them to boost the battery using boosting equipment. Their battery testing equipment will be able to tell you when there's sufficient charge to get it going. Then turn on the phone and plug in the charger immediately once it's booted up (in other words, when the operating system can kick in and start controlling the charging process).
Hope this helps.
PS, there's a post on this forum somewhere on how to do-it-yourself, but in the long run, I found my way to be the easier way.
PPS. Once your phone is back up and running, never let the battery run down completely.
Same happens to Motorola V3.
It is ridiculous design flaw.
This is really annoying, I was hoping to sort this out with a new charger (in the post now) but looks like I'm going to have to go to a t-mobile shop. Will they definitely have something to charge the battery a bit, or should I start looking into buying something to charge the battery at home?
Yes you need the main charger.
I was using my other phones charger(motorola) with my cingular 8125 and battery is completly empty it doesn't charge it.
Didn't wait for a hour but if that works.It's good i love my wizard
motorola V3 chargers do work. used the missus' when battery ws completely dead. interestingly, doesnt work the other way around...... :?:
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Bdcol
Could you direct me to that post on how to charge a dead battery - I have searched but can't find it. This is a really annoying problem - does anyone know of a commercially available battery charger which doesn't need the phone OS (the battery looks pretty standard to me).
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Chris
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Helloes guys and goils.
I have a HTC wiz, and for a good few weeks now I have had problems with it.
First off, It would NOT charge through the Wall Socket OR USB, I let it run down over XMas and it's not been the same again.
It just will not charge or come on.
When I plug it into USB it looks as if it is charging, with the Orange light and The power bar turns to the socket looking thing, but when I leave it to charge it just goes off and doesnt come back on.
When I plug it into the wall socket the HTC does not respond.
I have been asking my mate in work to put it in his and charge it via HIS wall charger, which has worked a few times, but I seem to be getting a very awful run out of my battery.
I am thinking it is the phone and NOT the battery as i first thought, I dunno, im scared of throwing up £30 notes on a new battery only to find it is the phone.
What do you guys think I should do?
I heard somewhere that it is a SOFTWARE based charge and not a hardware based charge, what does that mean?
DO u think a flash would help it? I cant see it myself.
Or is my HTC just goosed?
Well
I can speak from experience when I tell you my wizard nuked 2 batteries...
how I dont know.
Hopefully one of the gurus can shed some light on your situation
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I am thinking it is the phone and NOT the battery as i first thought, I dunno, im scared of throwing up £30 notes on a new battery only to find it is the phone. . .
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If you do replace the battery, look on eBay - I got a new 1250 mA battery (there are also 1100 mA versions, don't get that) for $13.99US including shipping - works great!
Make sure its nothing simple... Try the USB cable plugged directly into the computer without using a USB hub (if you are) and different USB ports on the back of the computer. Also try different outlets for the AC adapter. If still nothing else I'd even ask for help from your local cell phone store (put on a sad face) and see if they'll lend you a power cord and or swap out batteries to see if they can reproduce the problem on a different Wizard, battery, etc.
There has been many posts on this subject with several different fixes.. i would suggest searching and reading and you can find your answers
My case
Hi,
I had somewhat similar problem with mine. My porblem was that I bought the Wizard with a Motorola charger. It had the same mini usb plug and when I plugged it to charge, the led on the wizard was orange and the Wizard indicated its charging, but the moment I unlugg it, the battery indicator was coming back to its previous state. My solution is to use the PC USB to charge it, on a couple of occasions I had the battery completely drained and had to "jump start it" by connecting the wires from the usb directly to the + and - of the battery. Even used once my good old AA Ni-MH charger to jump start the battery and it worked.
So perhaps you are not getting power from the cable, why not try with different charger or charging from another USB source (PC).
Hope this helps
Just happened to me tonight. Thought that my Wizard was toast as well.
I merely took the battery out for 10 minutes, put battery back in, and plugged device into original wall charger. All is well now.
-Jeff
This may seem like a funny question...
But would there happen to be any chargers JUST for the battery? I have a feeling that the usb port in the phone is broken, and I just purchased a new battery. So, I would have no way to charger the battery, nor use the phone...therefore if I could find a battery charger I would be all set. OR, are there any broken/cheap mda's out there that only function to charge the battery(i.e broken screen/speaker/etc)
What do you mean you have a feeling the USB port is broken? You should know this when it's time for a charge. If your device is stll under warranty, try to get a replacement. Since the 8125 is no longer available, you may be able to get a 8525. The same thing happened to me, and I got a replacement after talking to a Cingular rep.
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What do you mean you have a feeling the USB port is broken? You should know this when it's time for a charge. If your device is stll under warranty, try to get a replacement. Since the 8125 is no longer available, you may be able to get a 8525. The same thing happened to me, and I got a replacement after talking to a Cingular rep.
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I'm assuming you have a 8125 since this is the Wizard forum, and you did not state what type of device in your thread...
Yes, there are chargers that you can get just for the battery, just check out ebay and I'm sure you'll find a few of them. You might also try your local phone store if it's a decent one that carrys lots of accessories, you might be able to find one there.
I have a tmobile MDA. The phone is out of warranty, and therefore I can't get a replacement. Unless I want to pay for it. The phone is completely dead, to the point where it will no longer turn on. I have read that once the battery is below a critical level, it will no longer accept a charge. I've also read that I would have to give it a small boost via a cut USB cord, to get it above that critical level.
I'm assuming the usb port is dead due to the fact that the orange light no longer turns on. This could be due to the battery being so low, OR the usb port is defective and not accepting a charge.
I'll certainly check ebay for a battery charger. Anything specific I should look for?
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I have a tmobile MDA. The phone is out of warranty, and therefore I can't get a replacement. Unless I want to pay for it. The phone is completely dead, to the point where it will no longer turn on. I have read that once the battery is below a critical level, it will no longer accept a charge. I've also read that I would have to give it a small boost via a cut USB cord, to get it above that critical level.
I'm assuming the usb port is dead due to the fact that the orange light no longer turns on. This could be due to the battery being so low, OR the usb port is defective and not accepting a charge.
I'll certainly check ebay for a battery charger. Anything specific I should look for?
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Based on what you're saying here, a battery only charger won't help. Where if you can remember did you read that a battery can't be recharged after reaching a critical level? I have read where it's good to periodically drain the battery for extended battery life. The orange light is just the charging indicator, and the battery itself has nothing to do with it. You can plug in the charging port without a battery, and a working device wil show an orange charging light. Your charging port has lost connection inside. Did you drop or abuse your device? Either stock up on batteries, get another device, or have the one you have now repaired.
I'll look and see if I can't find one on there for you and post a link. If I remember right, just searching for t-mobile mda should get you a few of them although you may have to search through a few pages to find one.
Here's one that I just found that has both a sync charger and a spare battery charger(what you're looking for) - http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-AC-BATTERY-...yZ146435QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I know I've seen them that are just a spare battery charger without the sync and they were a lot cheaper but I didn't see any of them listed. I only went through a couple of pages though so I'm sure if you look a little harder than I did you can find them.
I found one on ebay. But I was able to jump start the battery w/ a cut USB cord, and now it's working fine.
Oh, I just read your post saying that your battery was completely dead. I can help you fix that one without cutting up a charger. All you need is a 9v battery and a couple of wires (wire bread ties will work if you don't have any wire handy).
Remove your battery from your phone and connect the 9v battery to it + to + and - to - for 10 seconds, disconnect it for 30 seconds and then repeat the process for a total of 10 times (connect fo 10 secs, disconnect for 30 secs). Then put the battery back in the phone and connect it to the charger again and charge it until it's full and then you should be good after that.
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Oh, I just read your post saying that your battery was completely dead. I can help you fix that one without cutting up a charger. All you need is a 9v battery and a couple of wires (wire bread ties will work if you don't have any wire handy).
Remove your battery from your phone and connect the 9v battery to it + to + and - to - for 10 seconds, disconnect it for 30 seconds and then repeat the process for a total of 10 times (connect fo 10 secs, disconnect for 30 secs). Then put the battery back in the phone and connect it to the charger again and charge it until it's full and then you should be good after that.
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This method worked for me last week, I had the exact same issue and found the same fix somewhere on this forum, Great advice!
I have a MDA that had it's battery die durring a reflash. Yes I know me=dumbass. I have since jumpstarted the battery and the phone will boot to the recovery screen.
This is a phone I got off craigslist cheep for my son...to break him into the winmo cell phones. I know I could just buy another battery but I really dont want to throw more money into this. Plus the wife is pissed that I may have bought a junk phone.
Unfortunatly I am unable to charge the battery enough to complete a full reflash without the battery running out of juice.
If a phone has no "OS" installed on it, will it still be able to recharge a battery? If it has no drivers...will it know it has a recharging circuit?
I am trying to charge the batt unsing the usb cable and taping the red/black to +/- respectively. Will thgis eventually charge the batt? Or are the charge points different than the +/- as marked on the battery?
Any help is apreciated.
Yes, I think what you've done will eventually charge the battery.
It may take while since USB is only 500mA.
Does the charge indicator illuminate orange when you plug in the phone? If so, that means it is charging the battery.
I'm not sure if it will charge with no OS or not. Sometimes a weak (~800mA) charger requires the phone to be able to boot before it will charge. Phones that are more dead usually require the OEM 1200mA charger.
ur mobile will charge without an OS...the Orange Led should glow even if the phone is switched off...but charging thru USB may be inadequate...use wall charger....
Hi,
My wizard main battery (wiza16) was very low and the wizard stop with a message “The internal battery is very low”. After coming back home I have tried to charge but it is not taking charge and didn’t turn on anymore. I recently bought a new battery (wiza16, 3.7 VDC, 1250 mAH) thinking that it will work again but still the same problem, wizard is not taking charge or turn on.
Can anyone help me?? What can I do to start my wizard? Do I need to change the tiny little battery (which is inside the wizard)? Kindly help me.
Wizard service manual
Hi,
See if when you connect the power plug the led turns red, if yes....
If Charge light is red when plug in AC adapter, it means the main battery is not charge enough and can’t power on,
You just need to continue charge unit the light become Amber
If not, i think you have a problem.
Check if charger its working and if its pluged.
If it helps --- ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Docs_Tutorials/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf
Wizard Battery discharge completely
Hi,
Thanks for quick reply. there is no light when i connect my wizard with PC. I don't have the AC charger, I have lost that for long and was using my PC usb to charge. trying to get one AC charger.
There was no problem with my wizard, just can't turn on after it's battery discharge completely. Even the new battery couldn't turn that on.
You'll need the original charger if the battery has complelty discharged as it will only charge from the computer if the phone is powered on.
This happened to me before.
There is a trick to giving the battery a quick charge which will give it enough juice to boot the phone up and allow it to charge from usb. its not recommended but works.
You will need a spare usb cable, cut one end of, strip the wires back and connect the red wire to + and the black to - on the battery, only do it for a short period, about 30 seconds while conneted to your computer.
You may need to give it a few 30 second bursts to give it enough juice.
Pop the battery back into the phone and switch it on while pugged into the PC
Took me a few attempts to get enough charge in the battery for it to boot up.
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You can also use a 9V battery to jumpstart your battery. But then you have to be more careful. I connected the 9v battery to my Wizard battery for about 15 seconds, then tried to start up my device. If not successful I started again with 15 seconds jumpstart..
But you can find more information here in the forum: just search for jumpstart or something similar....
Regards
huibuh_!
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Thank you all for information. 9V battery method didn't work for me. Looking for AC charger online and get a link (http://www2.dustin.se/pd_5010073700.aspx). Do you think this is the right one? If yes, then I can order.
yea that's the right one but if you have a friend with a ppc or maybe a razor you can use there charger most ac adapters are starting to use mini usb just a way of saving some money even though having an ac adapter is good
could also try and get one of those usb plugs that you can plug up to a wall and plug in a usb cable into the slot
but don't take my word for this wit hmy wizard i haven't had it shut all the way day
if anybody can verify this would work
AC charger not also working
I have got the AC charger yesterday. When Connect the Ac charger first time the red light on my wizard showed for just half second then dissappear. Still let that connected for whole night but no response.
Thank you all for help.
@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.
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@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.
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Yup that is about right,
If the battery is complelty dead, then you need to original charger.
If you have got the right charger and you get a red light and it goes off. your phone might have a problem.
This happened to my last wizard after stupidly trying to dry out the screen after getting it wet which stopped the touchscreen working (i was drying it out while the phone was still on) well my wizard crashed.
Took ages to get it back on but it was very unreliable then one day, it wouldnt go on and charger done nothing. Unpluging and pluging the charger in several times got a red light on.
Sometimes i could get it to turn on, the charger would charge for about 5 minutes then the phone would die soon after.
Your phone might possibly be bricked.
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I Have Same Problem with my wizard
Yesterday my wizard goes died, i think the battery out
when i came home, i use AC Charger for HTC Universal, for 1st time its red light then off,
after 15 minutes orange light, i try to turn on my wizard and works but only in boot loader 5 minutes again its going off again
until now my wizard wont turn on
some body help
I've got a wing with charging issues. I was wondering if someone with a wing could test something for me.
Will the wing run if it's plugged into the wall charger, and then has the battery removed?
Will the wing stay running in standby, plugged in, and has the battery removed, replaced, then is brought out of standby?
My wing recognizes when it's plugged in but instead of saying "charging" in power it just says A/C Only and continues to drain the battery. Also the red (Orange?) charging led does not light up. It's odd, and I would like some help with the above questions to try and ascertain what may be the problem.
Thanks!
Wall charger and then battery removed- Yes
Standby, plugin, battery removed/replaced, out of standby- yes
Its possible that your wall charger is not supplying enough power to the device to get it have a positive charge deficit on the battery drain. This might happen if the circuit is already full of other things or if you are plugging it into a power strip or surge protector.
Thank you very much for your time. I tried it in two outlets with nothing else in them and no dice. The charger is rated at 5v 1000ma so it shouldn't have trouble. Is the OEM charger made by delta?
It charges my other phones with a miniusb connector fine though, and I've tried two chargers on my wing. I think it's either the battery or something wrong with the phone.
One last thing, with the phone off and no battery in, will it start up when plugged in?
Thanks!
when i say that the wall is not supplying enough power, i'm saying that the cannot physically supply the kind of power that the wing needs to get charging. Its not really a matter of the charging unit or anything.
try (believe me this is a definitive test) going into a completely empty house and plugging your device in. If it doesnt charge, its probably hardware related.
By the way, it WILL start when plugged in. At least normally, i do believe.
PockyBum522 said:
Thank you very much for your time. I tried it in two outlets with nothing else in them and no dice. The charger is rated at 5v 1000ma so it shouldn't have trouble. Is the OEM charger made by delta?
It charges my other phones with a miniusb connector fine though, and I've tried two chargers on my wing. I think it's either the battery or something wrong with the phone.
One last thing, with the phone off and no battery in, will it start up when plugged in?
Thanks!
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Are any of the chargers you tried specifially made to charge the wing? I used to have a razr and figured that car charger would work since it has the same miniusb but it does not charge my phone.
Just a thought.
Turns out i was wrong
if you take out the battery while plugged in, the phone will turn off.
Therefore i assume i was wrong about everything else too.
But seriously, i have no idea why it wouldnt charge. Call'em up and you might get a free replacement. I did (not for this issue though)
Oh! That makes me feel a little better. I've got what I think is an oem charger (If anyone else has a oem one, see if it's made by delta, if not then the guy who sold this to me may have given me the wrong charger) but I don't understand why it wouldn't charge off my computer back when it was at 70% either.
I've got a new battery coming in, so if that doesn't fix it I'll call em up.
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Oh! That makes me feel a little better. I've got what I think is an oem charger (If anyone else has a oem one, see if it's made by delta, if not then the guy who sold this to me may have given me the wrong charger) but I don't understand why it wouldn't charge off my computer back when it was at 70% either.
I've got a new battery coming in, so if that doesn't fix it I'll call em up.
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Try to charge the phone while it's off. If the orange light goes on, then it should be charging.