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LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?
yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date
i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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LP has bugs
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Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.
http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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Where did you get this information?
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Where did you get this information?
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This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.
Hey everyone
I heard the Android 7.1.1 update for Galaxy S7 & S7 edge is in testing at carriers and is just about to come for us
Anyone heard when exactly ?
The Beta testers will probably get it first. Release date is probably somewhere near february or even march.
I'm starting to seriously doubt if 7.0 will ever come. I rather stick to MM right now as not much dev been going for the Google Pixel.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/12/09...-the-galaxy-s7-will-start-with-android-7-1-1/
I'm still running 6.0.1 on AT&T. Why the delay?
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I'm still running 6.0.1 on AT&T. Why the delay?
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Because it is only a beta release and AT&T does not allow betas.
Final version is rumored to be released on February or March, and even then, carrier specific releases will probably take longer.
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The Beta testers will probably get it first. Release date is probably somewhere near february or even march.
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You wanna bet on that, everyone got it before them last year (S6), Vodafone being first!
am one of the beta testers and we are at update 4 now but still on 7.0
looking good - get ready for some nice surprises
No, the official Nougat will be 7.0. It was announced on Samsung Members here in Korea.
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No, the official Nougat will be 7.0. It was announced on Samsung Members here in Korea.
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And it was announced by Samsung Support in Europe that the official update will be 7.1.1. We just don't know yet. Let's hope for the 7.1.1 though
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And it was announced by Samsung Support in Europe that the official update will be 7.1.1. We just don't know yet. Let's hope for the 7.1.1 though
EDIT: Source here
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Yeah I saw that, and some beta users here inquired if that is true, only to get answers saying No.
Well I do want to stop getting disappointed at Samsung changing their words(or giving different answers). Hope we can get 7.1.1 ...
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Yeah I saw that, and some beta users here inquired if that is true, only to get answers saying No.
Well I do want to stop getting disappointed at Samsung changing their words(or giving different answers). Hope we can get 7.1.1 ...
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Oh... Didn't know that... Let's keep our fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
I'm trying to think if my xiaomi A1 has Android one on it or not .
I'm reading everyday about to many phone that are getting updates to Oreo but not in my(our) case.
Like I said ,I was/am very angry to see Sony , HTC , OPO , Samsung (and the list is so open) and the One's still waiting ...
Shame one you Google/xiaomi !
I'm feeling so frustrated!
Who's with me?
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I'm trying to think if my xiaomi A1 has Android one on it or not .
I'm reading everyday about to many phone that are getting updates to Oreo but not in my(our) case.
Like I said ,I was/am very angry to see Sony , HTC , OPO , Samsung (and the list is so open) and the One's still waiting ...
Shame one you Google/xiaomi !
I'm feeling so frustrated!
Who's with me?
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Same. Is about to be patient but we suppose to have earlier updates ... Who is possible that this happens
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I don't get it why you are so upset that we dont have Oreo yet. Xiaomi clearly said on the launch of the A1 that we'll get Oreo by the end of the year and I think they ment December. I think it's a matter of max 2 weeks until we get Oreo. And btw i would like to wait a little bit more and get 8.1 skipping 8.0 but that's just me.
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I don't get it why you are so upset that we dont have Oreo yet. Xiaomi clearly said on the launch of the A1 that we'll get Oreo by the end of the year and I think they ment December. I think it's a matter of max 2 weeks until we get Oreo. And btw i would like to wait a little bit more and get 8.1 skipping 8.0 but that's just me.
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When I bought the phone I've made it for fast updates .
I believe I'll be so happy to see the 8's in January.
None of them are getting Oreo update yet, but beta testers only and Samsung will get it next year. And like VerOs said, Xiaomi said at the launch that Xiaomi Mi A1 will get Oreo by the end of the year.
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I think , it will be wise to call it Android Once instead One
Chill man. None of the OEM supported project treble after updating Oreo but google will push android Oreo update to Mi A1 with project treble support. Just chill its better to wait and have project treble option than the having just Oreo update
No idea why are you angry, we get monthly updates with the latest security patches as promised (and btw. we have KRACK fix sooner than Nexus/Pixel line). There is next to nothing so great in Oreo and some things are even broken, no idea why are you so eager to get it. I would prefer skipping 8.0 and going straight to 8.1 as well. 7.1.2 with Xposed is IMHO much better than stock 8.0 (had it on my Nexus 5X and honestly I don't miss Oreo at all).
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No idea why are you angry, we get monthly updates with the latest security patches as promised (and btw. we have KRACK fix sooner than Nexus/Pixel line). There is next to nothing so great in Oreo and some things are even broken, no idea why are you so eager to get it. I would prefer skipping 8.0 and going straight to 8.1 as well. 7.1.2 with Xposed is IMHO much better than stock 8.0 (had it on my Nexus 5X and honestly I don't miss Oreo at all).
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Keep dreaming mate. There's no way to skip it straight to 8.1 . Do you have a source? They are so slowly making the Oreo update and you're wishing to 8.1 ?I'll bet the 8.1 will be ready in spring 2018
I said I would prefer it, not that it's going to happen. In each case, official statement was that we will receive regular monthly security patches, which is happening. Oreo was promised before end of 2017 and as far as I see in my calendar, there is one month remaining. So..stop being angry and enjoy almost bug free Nougat with Xposed while you wait for Oreo. Or just purchase Pixel..
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No idea why are you angry, we get monthly updates with the latest security patches as promised (and btw. we have KRACK fix sooner than Nexus/Pixel line). There is next to nothing so great in Oreo and some things are even broken, no idea why are you so eager to get it. I would prefer skipping 8.0 and going straight to 8.1 as well. 7.1.2 with Xposed is IMHO much better than stock 8.0 (had it on my Nexus 5X and honestly I don't miss Oreo at all).
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Absoultely agreed mate. I have tested Oreo on several devices, on my Mi4w in a very stable stage. But there is really nothing special about Oreo. A good, stable and cute 7.1.2 is always better than a half-baked 8.0.
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Chill man. None of the OEM supported project treble after updating Oreo but google will push android Oreo update to Mi A1 with project treble support. Just chill its better to wait and have project treble option than the having just Oreo update
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Are you sure about that? I've heard no news about Mi A1 and project treble.
It would be great yo have it!
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Are you sure about that? I've heard no news about Mi A1 and project treble.
It would be great yo have it!
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Yes.he knows everything in the whole world . he's a time traveler.and btw ... Xiaomi right now is buying Samsung and Apple too.Do you believe me???
Let's cut the crap!!!!
Absoultely agreed mate. Xiaomi is testing Oreo for Mi6 right now, i think this gonna happen to our devices to.
Just wait let Xiaomi finish their job.
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Chill man. None of the OEM supported project treble after updating Oreo but google will push android Oreo update to Mi A1 with project treble support. Just chill its better to wait and have project treble option than the having just Oreo update
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Google is not the one pushing the update. Xiaomi is. Might want to know who is pushing an update before you tell someone to chill
Still frustrated.... Nokia 8 is receiving Oreo . Really????
sitarumadalincosmin said:
Still frustrated.... Nokia 8 is receiving Oreo . Really????
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Yes Nokia is receiving Oreo.
But i dont know when oreo arrived to our device.
https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_testing_oreo_update_for_moto_z_play-news-28459.php
We are the one! I guess we're the only one who didn't receive Oreo update till now
Btw Oreo is rolling out to the Sony Xperia x !!! Nice job Xiaomi!
I think we get directly Android 8.1 bcoz beta testing stop in December and final version out in December so.i hope get Android 8.1
Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
Because they're working on Oreo
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Because they're working on Oreo
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
My complaint is pretty clear, not sure why you can't see it.
When Android 7.1 was released, it was seen as a Nexus/Pixel exclusive with pixel-only exclusives. It's more surprising that the Note 8 did come with Android 7.1 than the S8 not getting an update. Most skinned manufacturers decided early on to skip 7.1 in favor of 8.0
Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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I had the S6 Edge +, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
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Do we get 8.1 ?
Samsung only focus on main releases, 7.0 of samsung has all the stuff of the pure 7.1 with it's own UI
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Do we get 8.1 ?
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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Sorry I should have been more clear and misunderstood. By the time that 8.1 was out development on 8 would have already started.
Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Yes, that's their job, they dont get to take a year off after compiling one version of android. If they can release x.1 updates on the note they can do the same on the s8.
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Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
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I had the S7 Edge, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
Is that released, if yes may someone paste the download link here for sure to be tester
i think they first release in South Korea and then other countries and then go/apply/access via Samsung member app
Hopefully we get it soon lol
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Hopefully we get it soon lol
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Yes If you own a s21. Unfortunately no news on there being a beta for note 20.
Might be delayed til October for S21 family.
One UI 4.0 beta delayed till October over bug concerns with stable Android 12 potentially set for late December release
Samsung has yet again delayed the start of the One UI 4.0 beta program, but this time till October. Apparently, the company is taking its time with bug-fixing, a decision that will likely see the Android 12 stable release put off until late December or early January.
www.notebookcheck.net
aaaaaaaaanddddddddddddddddd nevermind the above article. One UI 4 beta is official for S21 series as of today. Hopefully we get some love in the next couple of weeks.
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aaaaaaaaanddddddddddddddddd nevermind the above article. One UI 4 beta is official for S21 series as of today. Hopefully we get some love in the next couple of weeks.
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Hope so... There wasn't a new Note this year, so Note 20 still must be the actual mode. At least, I think so. I'm ready to catch the beta, once is out. If everything work like have to, ofcourse haha
You really want to torture yourself with a slow, buggy beta. Some of your apps may or may not work, good lock modules will be non functional. Any custom theming with synergy/hex won't work if you use that. I did it last year with the previous note and don't think I'll be doing it this time.
Also, note, the official way to sign up is through Samsung Members app. If you sideload the beta, you're completely on your own.
Any update on beta availability for the N20U?
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Any update on beta availability for the N20U?
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Sadly no, they're working on opening the beta to the s20 series now, so we should be next hopefully by the end of the month, if not, probably not until official release by the end of the year
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Sadly no, they're working on opening the beta to the s20 series now, so we should be next hopefully by the end of the month, if not, probably not until official release by the end of the year
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Sadly the note series seems to be repalced with the Z-Flip 3 and Z-Fold 3 this time round. They will be getting the beta next. No news of the Note series getting beta....
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Sadly the note series seems to be repalced with the Z-Flip 3 and Z-Fold 3 this time round. They will be getting the beta next. No news of the Note series getting beta....
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Of course they would do that ... I think they are starting to pass a lot of people off with this mentality of killing the note in favor of a inferior foldable bull****