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[Q] Need advice , Which Note should I buy? Tad urgent

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I've been debating with my self whether or not I should jump in and buy the note 10.1 2014 edition, but in my fact finding efforts certain questions arose ( with a lot of confusion)
1 Will HMP be available to the Exynos 5420 ? I keep finding information that goes both ways...yes...no...maybe
2 Does a root solution exist ( or is in works) that won't void warranty? (knox issues??)
3 Snapdragon or Exynos ( this brings me back to the HMP question!! IF HMP = yes well then Exynos, but...if not...?)
4 Any drawbacks when compared to comparable gen tablets? Lack of features, performance issues , instability etc?
I'm not doubting whether or not I want a pen enabled tablet, but with the new Nvidia pen enabled tablets in the works, samsung is losing it's unique position.
Now I know there are tons of posts all over the place that in essence answer a lot of the same points, but many of the threads go a bit back and forth and often misinformed on key issues...
Like Developer support for and against the Exynos vs Snapdragon etc And HMP support?
Now there is a small ticking clock attached to these questions, I've been offered a 17.5 % discount on the note ( LTE or wifi edition , my choice) But it expires on wednesday (30.okt)
Thanks in advance!!!
Cheers lads!

Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.

mi7chy said:
Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.
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But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?

DeBoX said:
But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?
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Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Yeah l heard that snapdragon is 20 + % faster gpu. So there's that
But I can't help wonder how HMP (if it's going to be available to the note) would impact the performance of both gpu and cpu (I know that I'm a bit of a broken record)
Didn't know about the root, good to know, but there isn't one ready for the note yet...?
Anyone done a battery comparison between the two SoC ?
Anyone found articles on HMP and note? Looking for solid proof

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo

DeBoX said:
Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo
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As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.

VaggD said:
As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.
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8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...

DeBoX said:
8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...
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Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.

VaggD said:
Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.
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I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)

DeBoX said:
I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)
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No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.

VaggD said:
No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.
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That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?

DeBoX said:
That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?
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Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?

VaggD said:
Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?
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If I've understood it properly, the OS takes about 4-5 gigs ( note that's the OS and the apps that come with it etc) , so in essence you should have something like 10-12 gig of user available space.
I'de say go for the 32 gig variant.
Yes, you can always add micro SD cards etc, but most apps still don't like moving to ext storage, and in most cases they don't move all of the content but just part of it.
I won't be gaming a lot, but a few games that I do like , GTA 3 and GTA vice city er about 2 gig each ( give or take) so there goes the space, some documents here and there, and apps, and so on and so on...
Anyone know of any difference in lag between the Snapdragon and Exynos versions?

[Discussion] How does the OnePlus X compare to its main rivals?

By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?

I think that Xiaomi Mi4C is pretty good competitor. Dimensions are almost the same. Mi4C has a bigger battery, a bit faster processor (SD808), usb type-C and IR blaster. However, OnePlus X has Amoled screen and sd-card slot (and 800Mhz LTE for EU users). I think that OnePlus X has also better OS and perharps longer update support.

Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
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rp3 said:
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
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+1 I think former flagships are a great alternative, since most of them continue on to become great mid-range phones.
Unfortunately, the Nexus 5 isn't available new anymore, except for the occasional eBay auction.
The Xperia Z3 Compact clearly isn't a ~5" device.

LG G2/G3 can be considered as rivals too !

No LTE in USA!, fingerprint scanner, nfc, ois....what is oneplus thinking? With this trend of lacking necessary features and increasing prices, it's doubtful oneplus will ever be more than a small player.

i would say Mi 4C would be the main competitor, with SD808, Wifi AC, bigger battery, and IR Blaster in its favour
OPX has AMOLED, Metal build, and MicroSD in its favour though
i would say the bigger battery and Wifi AC will hurt the OPX more than the chipset difference, apparently SD808 and SD801 CPU performance is about the same, though Adreno 418 is about 20% better than 330, even though Adreno 330 is "enough" for 1080p screens (quotation bcz enough is very subjective)
I'm having a real struggle here :/

Mi4c is missing band 20 LTE which rules out O2 in the UK
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It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.

Akopps said:
It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
LTE Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Source. OnePlus.net

What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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gabling23 said:
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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Plus x has SAMOLED , which is a strong point in itself. Also, SAMOLED means more battery life.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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Oh that's right. However, I am on AT&T network, so I care only about the band 17 right now, which OnePlus One supports. Anyways, with crippled LTE band support, the X is kind of a lousy proposition IMHO.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
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In my opinion, the Asus Zenfone 2 and its derivatives is definitely a rival. My understanding is that the Intel-based Asus Zenfone 2 has very good SoC performance, probably above the Snapdragon 801, but below average battery life, screen brightness, and camera software. The Snapdragon 615 based Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same). Considering that both Zenfones start at $200 and have proper LTE support, they're definitely in the game. Moto G falls approximately into the same performance bracket at Zenfone 2 laser (actually slower a bit), but has class leading battery performance.
Another possibility, why not consider some of the discontinued Snapdragon 800/801 based smartphones? Considering the Snapdragon 808/810 fiasco, I think those are well worth checking out. For example you can find on eBay NEW and unlocked LG G2 (SD 800, no sd card) for around $160, Nexus 5 (SD800, no SD) for $180-200, LG G3 (SD 801, sd card) for $230, or Samsung Galaxy S5 (SD801, sd card) for just under $300. All of these roughly fall into the same performance bracket at OnePlus One/X, but offer specific versions with the LTE Band 17 used by AT&T in USA that the OnePlus X lacks.
And finally, speaking of Nexus 5X, early reviews suggest it's not all that great or the kind of a diamond in rough that Nexus 5 or OnePlus One used to be, in part thanks the slow storage performance because of the new encryption scheme and once again thanks to the SD808. Considering the price of the base Nexus 5X, I think you could do better with buying a OnePlus 2, which has all the same specs but more memory and slightly faster SoC.
Anandtech has a very thorough review of 5X:
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review

Akopps said:
The Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same).
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I can attest to the Zenfone 2 Laser's battery life. It has an insane capacity! One of my friends just bought the ZF2 Laser, and he constantly gets around 9-10 hrs SoT. And it's not even as if he keeps the screen on doing nothing, he puts it through light to moderate usage - playing light games, browsing, whatsapp, etc with wi-fi on the whole day, but the damn thing just keeps on going!
As far as the performance is concerned, the SD410 is doing a very satisfactory job. So far I've not seen any slowdowns/lags/stuttering whatsoever. So its going pretty smooth as of now.

What about the Huawei Honor 7? It has similar specs and also the price is almost the same (at least in Europe - 270 EUR vs. 300 EUR).

While we compare, what is the software update record of Asus, Huawei, Acer etc? I think Oneplus is going to support their devices for longer than any of those

Currently have a Nexus 5, not sure if it was right to "upgrade". Damn I am gonna miss wireless charging

it is not "upgrade". it is a "sidegrade"

The yu yutopia when it releases with SD 810 at the price of ₹21,000 32gb

Stop suggesting 5.5 phablets. This thread is about 5 in Phones.

about this device

plz tell me about this phone(camera,performance,battery,temperature etc)and i want to buy leeco max 2 or this,plz tell me which one is better.ty

nobody is answering me.i think i am some kind of monster or something because i asked this question from people 3 times else and nobody is answering!

pou_gh2 said:
nobody is answering me.i think i am some kind of monster or something because i asked this question from people 3 times else and nobody is answering!
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Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.

testreaper said:
Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.
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from a chinese shop.and i am not going to buy a phone soon and i can wait maybe a month or more.i have 200 usd budget btw,ty

testreaper said:
Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.
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and also i thought:i dont need a new phone,just a powerful one with good battery,and i found this phone after 20days of searching

Alright so you want battery performance + speed that can pay off the money spent for the next 2 years atleast.
So you should aim for phones with:
1)4gb ram atleast
2) 14mm Soc or less so your battery doesnt drain fast.
Redmi pro has 3gb ram, an outdated soc and you will notice bat issues so i would avoid it.
Le max 2 is more of a jack of all trades, good battery, decent camera, good ram and soc. I would totally buy it over redmi pro. I think there is also better support for le max 2(xda..) so i think that it would be a better choice here. Also b20 band.
And finally there is rn4x. If i were you i would get rn4x. I prefer battery over performance. Just get the 4gb ram version. Last time i saw i think it was gearbest that sold it at a reasonable price.
So for 200 bucks i would go Rn4X> Le max2>rest

testreaper said:
Alright so you want battery performance + speed that can pay off the money spent for the next 2 years atleast.
So you should aim for phones with:
1)4gb ram atleast
2) 14mm Soc or less so your battery doesnt drain fast.
Redmi pro has 3gb ram, an outdated soc and you will notice bat issues so i would avoid it.
Le max 2 is more of a jack of all trades, good battery, decent camera, good ram and soc. I would totally buy it over redmi pro. I think there is also better support for le max 2(xda..) so i think that it would be a better choice here. Also b20 band.
And finally there is rn4x. If i were you i would get rn4x. I prefer battery over performance. Just get the 4gb ram version. Last time i saw i think it was gearbest that sold it at a reasonable price.
So for 200 bucks i would go Rn4X> Le max2>rest
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ok,ty.btw i had sony,huawei and a lot of phones and i say 3gb ram is enough and more is wasting power and just a way to sell more and less than 3gb is slow so i prefer 3gb ram and i really preferd leeco le max 2 but xiaomi is known in my country and there is servicemans here but for leeco there is not but i prefer it if it would had any fixing service here

pou_gh2 said:
ok,ty.btw i had sony,huawei and a lot of phones and i say 3gb ram is enough and more is wasting power and just a way to sell more and less than 3gb is slow so i prefer 3gb ram and i really preferd leeco le max 2 but xiaomi is known in my country and there is servicemans here but for leeco there is not but i prefer it if it would had any fixing service here
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Rn4x has 4k mah bat with soc 625 and it will result in a monstrous battery. I feel that you wont be dissapointed. But i would still go for the 4gb ram version. You can also add SD slot, it has audio jack and its size is more affordable(5.5 to 5.7) compared to le max 2.

testreaper said:
Rn4x has 4k mah bat with soc 625 and it will result in a monstrous battery. I feel that you wont be dissapointed. But i would still go for the 4gb ram version. You can also add SD slot, it has audio jack and its size is more affordable(5.5 to 5.7) compared to le max 2.
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yeah,ty anyway

Does 4gb/64 worth it?

I'm not much into multitasking but do play heavy games on phones. I have a 32 GB memory card with all the necessary files in it, will only use internal memory for apps only(god bless the makers for including a dedicated SD card slot?). So the main question is will 4gb/64gb variant will be a good option for the likes of me or the 3gb/32 variant will be enough?

if you planing to use the phone as long term investment then buy 4gb/64 ..bit more future proofing i think

If your current SD card is not even 50 percent full, go for the 3GB variant. But if it isn't, I suggest you go for the 64GB. It depends on the use and only you know how you will use it.

MrStark007 said:
If your current SD card is not even 50 percent full, go for the 3GB variant. But if it isn't, I suggest you go for the 64GB. It depends on the use and only you know how you will use it.
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Will the upcoming 6gb variant will have improved processor or just there will be camera improvement?

SumitGupta2442 said:
Will the upcoming 6gb variant will have improved processor or just there will be camera improvement?
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There is no news about it. I think it will have a Snaodragon 660. Always Asus phones had higher RAM version with a better processor. Also, they willl have tough competition from the upcoming Xiaomi Mi A2 which has a Snapdragon 660. So most probably, it will have.

MrStark007 said:
There is no news about it. I think it will have a Snaodragon 660. Always Asus phones had higher RAM version with a better processor. Also, they willl have tough competition from the upcoming Xiaomi Mi A2 which has a Snapdragon 660. So most probably, it will have.
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It'll be awesome if it has Snapdragon 660 at a budget of ₹15k?. Surely will buy that variant if it comes with Snapdragon 660, I mean what else does one want at 15k. Upcoming Xiaomi Mi A2 will be having a tough competition as the battery in that device stands no where near to Asus Zenfone Max Pro.

SumitGupta2442 said:
It'll be awesome if it has Snapdragon 660 at a budget of ₹15k. Surely will buy that variant if it comes with Snapdragon 660, I mean what else does one want at 15k. Upcoming Xiaomi Mi A2 will be having a tough competition as the battery in that device stands no where near to Asus Zenfone Max Pro.
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Mi A2 would be priced around 18 to 21k it will be not launched in this price segment remember Nokia 7 plus has 660 and it is priced around at 27k ,636 is not bad processor either most of the needs it's good.

SumitGupta2442 said:
It'll be awesome if it has Snapdragon 660 at a budget of ₹15k?. Surely will buy that variant if it comes with Snapdragon 660, I mean what else does one want at 15k. Upcoming Xiaomi Mi A2 will be having a tough competition as the battery in that device stands no where near to Asus Zenfone Max Pro.
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Yes. Still it has got a better camera and USB Type-C and Android One support.

Snapdragon 660 will have 2.2 GHz top clock speed compared with 1.8 of 636. And also it has Vulkan API support, if you are a pro gamer.

Concerns Exynos vs Snapdragon -UK-

Hi
I just ordered the S20 Plus from EE UK after ordering I noticed Samsung doesn't release the snapdragon chipset in the UK LOL So I had a look online Youtube and noticed they is a clear winner here for the snapdragon also it is 8nm vs 7nm
I do get a 14 day cancellation if I dont like the device.

Both the SD 865 and Exynos 990 are 7nm. It is expected that the Exynos will be behind the SD but we still can't say how much. We have to wait for the first review devices.

shankly1985 said:
Hi
I just ordered the S20 Plus from EE UK after ordering I noticed Samsung doesn't release the snapdragon chipset in the UK LOL So I had a look online Youtube and noticed they is a clear winner here for the snapdragon also it is 8nm vs 7nm
I do get a 14 day cancellation if I dont like the device.
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Keep in mind. If you ever want to unlock the bootloader that the snap dragon more than likely will not be able to. How it's been for years now. Exynos is the way to go in my opinion.

Both the Exynos and snapdragon chips are good. But in performance Exynos is performing least than the Snapdragon.

So far with my research, the Snapdragon is 20% faster in multi-core operation and 3% behind in Single-core mode.... so some features like AI will be better on the Exynos... but if you play games or render video, the Snapdragon is the clear winner.... My main concern is do I even want to root the phone?!? I lost root on my s8 within the past year and I havent found a need to redo it (since I have the wipe the phone its a PITA)...... I can preorder in the United States right now and trade-in my phone... If I decide to root the phone...I'd want to buy the Exynos verison, which would affect any trade-ins......... Last time I bought the Exynos S8 verison and it has lasted pretty good... I am still using it now however my back in cracked up some and a small crack on the front upper corner that cannot be seen in its case.... So I expect to only get $120 trade in for it.... now, if they will do multiple trade-ins I still have my old S7 as well.... even still... for a S20+ 512gb phone I am looking at $900-$1000 for the phone outright... and then $1300 if i elect to get the Exynos verision if I want to root it eventually...
Decisions Decision... and I am sure most of us in the US are in this situation.... I like the depth sensor so the S20 is out... and the size and weight of the Ultra, plus the fact that I will doubt i will ever use the 108mp mode... the S20+ is big enough coming from the S8.... so only thing left is which CPU?!? I hear the SnapDragon will also be better on Battery life as well... since both chipsets have four ARM Cortex-A55 cores, but where the Snapdragon 865 complements the package with four additional cores based on the ARM Cortex-A77 architecture, the Exynos 990 features two Exynos M5 custom cores and two older ARM Cortex-A76 cores.

Apparently 5G on the Snapdragon version would not work in Europe/UK.
It's all in the other thread for the S20 ultra.
This is very bad - if it's true...
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geovass said:
Apparently 5G on the Snapdragon version would not work in Europe/UK.
It's all in the other thread for the S20 ultra.
This is very bad - if it's true...
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HK version supports N78 (UK 5G band).
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Hey there!
Any further studies comparing SD and exymos proc? Google isn't giving many results atm :-/

I have the UK exynos s20 plus. very disappointed with the camera. Will no doubt return it and consider getting a snapdragon version. at least with that you can use gcam.

https://mightygadget.co.uk/samsung-...mm-snapdragon-865-geekbench-results-compared/
Here is the best comparison so far. Exynos has better GPU (which is rather surprising), and worse CPU department (single core is faster on Exynos and S865 is better in multicore performance). Battery life almost the same. Nothing to complain about Exynos version this year.
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Here is another comparsion:
https://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s20-snapdragon-865-vs-exynos-990
Exynos sometimes literaly destroys S865...

My battery life is doing good enough getting around 4/5 hours screen on time. I have made some adjustments though I run 120hz dark theme on everything I can and also have a dark wallpaper, I dont use Always-on screen and I turned on the adaptive battery and adaptive brightness. I have disabled from running in the background mostly games once I quit them they quit. I use bixby routines for night time so at 12am to 6am my phone is in aeroplane mode and power mode is reduced overnight.
I think that is everything I have done so far

I am not so much concerned about various battery life and power differences as I am about them using completely different camera sensors. comparisons of last few years models has shown clear differences in favour of snapdragon (Sony sensor).

I need dual sim...
Unfortunately I really needed the dual sim so had to go for Exynos variant. Kinda regret it now though. Battery life doesn't seem that great as all the reviews I've seen using the SD chip.

blueheng said:
Unfortunately I really needed the dual sim so had to go for Exynos variant. Kinda regret it now though. Battery life doesn't seem that great as all the reviews I've seen using the SD chip.
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If you.go to settings - device care screen does the battery icon show 'learning usage patterns' underneath the power bar?
If yes then don't try to make any judgement on battery drain until this message disappears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CUSe8kgIE8
This is fun!!
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dezborders said:
If you.go to settings - device care screen does the battery icon show 'learning usage patterns' underneath the power bar?
If yes then don't try to make any judgement on battery drain until this message disappears
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The answer is no, I've been using this phone for 2 weeks. If I'm lucky I will get 4 hours screen on time. I took mine out of 100% charge last night and used 33m. Today so far 1hr 12m. Battery level is already at 60%. Assuming I get another 20mins off and it goes to 50%, that is only 2 hours for 50% of my battery.
It's currently set to 120Hz 1080p, with adaptive power saving and adaptive battery on. Enhanced location with wifi and BT is turned off.
Honestly this is pretty disappointing.

Even if you have the Snapdragon single SIM version, can you still use a MicroSD card then? or....
(currently on the Exynos S20 but I'd like to try the Snapdragon version, just for sh##s and giggles)

MasterThiefGarrett said:
Even if you have the Snapdragon single SIM version, can you still use a MicroSD card then? or....
(currently on the Exynos S20 but I'd like to try the Snapdragon version, just for sh##s and giggles)
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Yes the SD version comes with MicroSD card slot.