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Hey guys, I am new to the Android scene from iOS jailbreaking, so I had a few questions.
1. Is it easy to upgrade to a later firmware rooted?
2. How/can you revert to stock OS from a rom without losing personal data?
3. What are the best tweaks and themes to get?
Thanks for the help!
Bilge656 said:
Hey guys, I am new to the Android scene from iOS jailbreaking, so I had a few questions.
1. Is it easy to upgrade to a later firmware rooted?
2. How/can you revert to stock OS from a rom without losing personal data?
3. What are the best tweaks and themes to get?
Thanks for the help!
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1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
jptech said:
1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
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How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
Bilge656 said:
How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ClockworkMod_Recovery
Bilge656 said:
How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
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You'll have to do an initial flashing of the recovery, see for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742919
(More will probably come out once the device actually does)
After that, ROMs, kernels, etc can be downloaded as .zip files and flashed via the recovery. More tutorials about this, including video, will also come out.
Some guy named zedomax is notorious for having fifty instruction websites, like galaxynexusroot.com, rootgalaxynote.com, etc. You can watch them for earlier examples, and he's promised a nexus7root.com or something like that.
thebobp said:
You'll have to do an initial flashing of the recovery, see for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742919
(More will probably come out once the device actually does)
After that, ROMs, kernels, etc can be downloaded as .zip files and flashed via the recovery. More tutorials about this, including video, will also come out.
Some guy named zedomax is notorious for having fifty instruction websites, like galaxynexusroot.com, rootgalaxynote.com, etc. You can watch them for earlier examples, and he's promised a nexus7root.com or something like that.
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So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
Bilge656 said:
So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
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My advice: read all you can about root, custom Roms, recovery, and about the android is.
Do not root until you know what you are doing. And using a one click root program does not constitute knowing. By doing this you will learn all you need to know to have fun.
Xi2wiked said:
My advice: read all you can about root, custom Roms, recovery, and about the android is.
Do not root until you know what you are doing. And using a one click root program does not constitute knowing. By doing this you will learn all you need to know to have fun.
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Alright thanks. Any good resources?
Bilge656 said:
Alright thanks. Any good resources?
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There are lots of great video tutorials out there that are generic to android in general. Just do some searching on YouTube and you should find everything you need
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Bilge656 said:
So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
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"Flashing" is kinda a vague term. It pretty much means "copy stuff into the read-only part of your device's memory". So you might, for example, flash a ROM or an app.
After unlocking the bootloader, the initial flashing of the recovery has to be done via computer, usually via adb push. Some one-click tools do that for you.
Once that's done, you can flash zip files using the recovery. This is the standard way of flashing stuff and is very easy once you get the hang of it; all you need is the zip file.
Finally, a "rooted" app with superuser privileges can also write to the read-only memory, so there are some apps that flash certain ROMs and kernels for you and all you have to do is restart. Most prominent are ROM manager and kernel control apps.
jptech said:
1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
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Whats busybox for? i am a newbie too and reading the description on play store has me confused lol
iwantanandroid said:
Whats busybox for? i am a newbie too and reading the description on play store has me confused lol
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It's a collection of basic linux programs, required for some other advanced apps. Chances are if you don't know what it is, you don't need it. However, there's also the offchance that an app does need it and forgets to tell you, so meh.
Rooting/Flashing custom roms is an entirely different world from "jailbreaking" in iOS. XDA is by far the best place to learn and get your feet wet, but don't get in over your head too fast. When you get it, ENJOY your device as it is first. A stock Android device offers 100000X more freedom than iOS.
It took me a month (after devs bypassed the bootloader) to get the courage to finally root my G2, and that was because it took T-Mobile an insane amount of time to upgrade this thing to Gingerbread. Before you do anything read. Then read it again. Then again. Once you get the hang of it though, it gets pretty fun.
Nospin said:
Before you do anything read. Then read it again. Then again. Once you get the hang of it though, it gets pretty fun.
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Yes. I didn't read enough way back when I rooted and messed with my Cappy, and somehow got it stuck in an endless boot loop of death. So I will be a little hesitant to do anything with the Nexus until I am absolutely sure of whatever I'm doing. I suggest you do the same!
Just so I have this straight..
We have to first off root the tablet with the proper said zip file from a pc. Once rooted.. a custom recovery must be installed.. Once the recovery of choice is installed.. we then need to flash one of many choices of an un locked bootloader? Will the V8 bootloader be good enough to flash ICS and JB roms? I would prefer to root, unlock only once.. and be able to try a few roms without changing too much stuff.. will that be possible? I cant seem to find a central located thread on all the steps to take one after another.. it seems to be in segments scattered around. I just dont want a brick, but have rooted my sIII and my A100 so I should be able to do this.. I think I might have the right idea going here.. someone feel free to throw in any advice or good threads to read.. My A500 should be here in a few days..
I just released Loki, a set of tools for developers and users to flash custom kernels and recoveries on the AT&T and Verizon branded Samsung Galaxy S4.
The tool is available at:
https://github.com/djrbliss/loki
The technical details on how the exploit works are described at:
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/05/exploiting-samsung-galaxy-s4-secure-boot.html
This is a support thread that I will check regularly until I decide to hand over support to the community. Feel free to ask any questions, and I may add the answers to this post. As a guideline, if it's a question that's already been answered in this thread or in the README for Loki, I will ignore it.
Does this make any permanent changes to the device?
No permanent changes are made to your device when using loki_flash. The bootloader itself is untouched. By restoring the original system, boot, and recovery images (via Odin or otherwise), the device will be in a stock state.
Can this be patched?
Absolutely. Any update that includes a new aboot will almost definitely cause your custom kernel or recovery to fail to boot without running it through loki_patch again, and if the update contains a fix for the vulnerability Loki exploits, it may permanently prevent using the tool. It's possible for Samsung to ship an update that prevents downgrading aboot to a vulnerable version, so I recommend avoiding installing any OTA updates without confirmation that it's safe.
What about the bounty?
As usual, I encourage anyone looking to donate (as part of the bounty or otherwise) to give their money to a reputable charity organization instead. If you insist on donating to me, I'm sure you can find my Paypal account somehow.
This all seems complicated. What about a step-by-step guide?
These tools are primarily intended for developers, who will be able to use them and provide ordinary users with easy ways to flash custom ROMs. Be patient, I'm sure your favorite ROM developer will come up with something for you.
I've installed a Loki-patched recovery. Can I just install regular custom ROMs now?
Any ROMs that include a replacement boot.img must be modified to include a Loki-patched boot.lok file instead. Otherwise, your phone will fail to boot until you restore a Samsung-signed boot.img or a custom boot.lok image via your custom recovery, or flash a stock image via Odin.
So this is just like kexec?
This is similar to kexec in that it works around a locked bootloader, but this approach is much more flexible and robust. Kernel and recovery developers can build their projects just as they would for an unlocked device, run the final result through Loki, and then it's ready to be flashed. No hackery and brokenness required.
Thanks!!
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is this similar to htc dev which doesn't truly unlock "s-off" the device? i assume your method just circumvents the locked bootloader? the way i read what your tool accomplishes is for us to flash a recovery and kernels but doesn't actually touch the locked bootloader status?
thanks for your work. also let the games begin!
Thank you very much!!!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Very much appreciated!
By the time I get back from work, I'm pretty sure there'll be at least two recoveries and three roms prepared
Wooooot!!! Thanks man.
Awesome! Finally devs can start releasing some ROMs!
hopefully someone can make a toolkit and make this a one-click unlock/root
Thanks so much! :good:
thanks dude.
RawisTheGameHhH said:
hopefully someone can make a toolkit and make this a one-click unlock/root
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This or a step by step guide.
Theres already recovery available...
But thank you Dan, now all this bootloader madness can finally stop!
so we can flash a recovery and kernels with this tool but what about radios? can those be flashed with a locked bootloader? i swore they couldn't.
You are the MAN. A charity will be finding my donation per your recommendation.
Thanks again for all the great work.
Oh man, I'm dying here. I don't get off work for another ~6 hours! And I don't have admin access on my work computer, so no adb.
So, we have a patched recovery now, but custom kernels also have to be patched, correct? So it would be a bad idea to adb the recovery and then immediately try to use it to flash one of the roms that are already out there?
mattdm said:
Oh man, I'm dying here. I don't get off work for another ~6 hours!
So, we have a patched recovery now, but custom kernels also have to be patched, correct? So it would be a bad idea to adb the recovery and then immediately try to use it to flash one of the roms that are already out there?
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i wouldn't try flashing any roms yet.
YES!YES!YES!
Dan, You are The Man!!! Thank you so much. May your thanks meter need a fire extinguisher before the day is done....lol.:good::good::good::highfive::highfive::highfive:
did a nadroid backup, and it is doing multiple archives, is there a setting I missed?
nevermind, I stand correct, nice, very nice, thanks goes out to everyone involved.
Solid.
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I've read half of all of the ROM threads in the development forum, and am still unsure of where to go from here, so I am trying to get a direct answer here.
My situation:
VZW G2
Rooted
Stock ROM
VS98011A
TWRP 2.6.3.3 (updated to this version using FreeGee)
I have the OTA popping up constantly and I want to get rid of it by flashing the appropriate ROM.
Can I simply download a ROM and flash it using TWRP? Or am I going to get stuck in one of the many loops I am seeing people post about?
I would love to create a wiki with various starting points for people, but it is so hard to find information here. Searching for one thing leads to an explanation that, while helpful, involves five other steps or topics that one must also research, and I've often found people's step-by-step instructions to be incomplete or have a step that they assume everyone knows but is quite complicated.
THANK YOU to whomever replies, even if it just a link to something helpful, because I will gladly do the reading myself. I just often don't know what these people's starting points are when they are asking questions.
Most of the ROMS I have downloaded have flashing instructions in the OP. All you have to do though is factory reset before flashing, and then flash your ROM + GAPPS and then wipe cache/Dalvik Cache several times and yes you should be good to go
In regards to your wiki idea, I think it is a wonderful one. These forums are terrible for finding concise information. Often it is hard for me to find the information I am looking for.
jmilacek said:
I've read half of all of the ROM threads in the development forum, and am still unsure of where to go from here, so I am trying to get a direct answer here.
My situation:
VZW G2
Rooted
Stock ROM
VS98011A
TWRP 2.6.3.3 (updated to this version using FreeGee)
I have the OTA popping up constantly and I want to get rid of it by flashing the appropriate ROM.
Can I simply download a ROM and flash it using TWRP? Or am I going to get stuck in one of the many loops I am seeing people post about?
I would love to create a wiki with various starting points for people, but it is so hard to find information here. Searching for one thing leads to an explanation that, while helpful, involves five other steps or topics that one must also research, and I've often found people's step-by-step instructions to be incomplete or have a step that they assume everyone knows but is quite complicated.
THANK YOU to whomever replies, even if it just a link to something helpful, because I will gladly do the reading myself. I just often don't know what these people's starting points are when they are asking questions.
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You don't need to flash a ROM to get rid of the OTA popup. Just root, install Titanium Backup, and freeze the app called "Software Update MUC".
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jmilacek said:
I've read half of all of the ROM threads in the development forum, and am still unsure of where to go from here, so I am trying to get a direct answer here.
My situation:
VZW G2
Rooted
Stock ROM
VS98011A
TWRP 2.6.3.3 (updated to this version using FreeGee)
I have the OTA popping up constantly and I want to get rid of it by flashing the appropriate ROM.
Can I simply download a ROM and flash it using TWRP? Or am I going to get stuck in one of the many loops I am seeing people post about?
I would love to create a wiki with various starting points for people, but it is so hard to find information here. Searching for one thing leads to an explanation that, while helpful, involves five other steps or topics that one must also research, and I've often found people's step-by-step instructions to be incomplete or have a step that they assume everyone knows but is quite complicated.
THANK YOU to whomever replies, even if it just a link to something helpful, because I will gladly do the reading myself. I just often don't know what these people's starting points are when they are asking questions.
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My advice, 2 options:
Stay on 11a
Stay rooted
Stay w/TWRP 2.6.3.3 (freegee)
Flash CleanRom 1.0
Flash 12b modem
Install Xposed
Install G2xposed
and Prosper!
OR
Install Digital Dream 2.1
Take 12b update
Reroot using IOroot 1.6+
Install Freegee (TWRP)
Install DD 2.1
Install Xposed
Install G2xposed
and Prosper!
* Always make a nandroid backup of stock rooted and move it to the PC * Get familiar with ADB commands * Read threads past the 1st ten posts or last ten posts *Thank those that have helped you * If I can't BRICK it neither can you * Enjoy!
I have been trying for a week to get this pacman aio rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667834 ) to actually work on my Samsung Galaxy S4 SAMSUNG-SGH-1337Z . I don't even know how to install clockworkrecovery on it either ! If someone can please tell me the steps on how to do it and I'll gladly do it.
TL;DR I dont know how to put 4.4 kitkat pacman rom on my s4 and i need to learn how to install clockwork recovery mod onto it too.
Stop what you are doing. You are making really really big mistakes.
The link that you posted is for a different device. It's for the Moto G. If you flash that one your device, chances are you can trow your cellphone into the bin.
Second, you don't have a standard S4, you have one from AT&T. You are in the wrong part of the forum.
I think untill you stop making these basic mistakes, you should stop trying to flash. Browse the correct forum for you device, read and learn. If you keep going this way then you end up with a bricked device.
Go read the threads in this part and learn the basics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
Lennyz1988 said:
Stop what you are doing. You are making really really big mistakes.
The link that you posted is for a different device. It's for the Moto G. If you flash that one your device, chances are you can trow your cellphone into the bin.
Second, you don't have a standard S4, you have one from AT&T. You are in the wrong part of the forum.
I think untill you stop making these basic mistakes, you should stop trying to flash. Browse the correct forum for you device, read and learn. If you keep going this way then you end up with a bricked device.
Go read the threads in this part and learn the basics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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i just need to know which thing to download from http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/jflte/
PraisethesunnyD said:
i just need to know which thing to download from http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/jflte/
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No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
Lennyz1988 said:
No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
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Already rooted with kingo and i dont know how to use TWRP because it doesnt have my device when i go to install recovery.
yes pacman is available its all aio types like 1337Z so yeah man i need this so bad ive been trying for so long !
Lennyz1988 said:
No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
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ok i have recovery now which one do i pick in the link i sent
I would pick the latest nightly.
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use ATT's CWM or Cricket's TWRP, or even International. Ive tried all of them and they work. The only one that wouldn't stick was ATT's TWRP. it looped into odin mode. Get Cygwin to convert any .img to tar. I'll explain how if you need any help.