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New features of Android Oreo

Just wondering how many new features of Android o are actually working on our 6p. I have it up and running but I can't seem to find any of the features like picture in picture and changing icon display. The system tuner doesn't have navigation bar so how is it possible to get picture in picture to work? It all looks hunky dory on the Pixel phones but unless I'm missing something, there's nothing available for our 6p. And there's still no night mode. ?

No night mode but I got Pip to work in Chrome with a full screen video but not on YouTube by pressing the home button.

qu3becker said:
No night mode but I got Pip to work in Chrome with a full screen video but not on YouTube by pressing the home button.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Will try that. So I guess we have to root to get this feature via custom navigation bar app. I was wondering how long I could hold off rooting. The ads are already driving me up the wall.?

None of the Android Oreo features are working on mine. Like if you long to the home screen and go to settings, it takes me to Google Assistant settings....
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Same here
I flashed the update today, and I was disappointed to see the Marshmallow boot animation, the new app drawer is nonexistent, and I can't change the icons.

Hi guys, it didn't take too long. Already rooted and using custom navigation bar app to enable pip. No more ads and life is sweet again.?

People on the Pixel forum and on reddit are saying that you need a Youtube Red subscription to be able to use PIP on the Nexus 6P without resorting to use a navigation shortcut. That's crazy.
Edit: I'm Canadian so Red is a no go.
I can't press resume after pausing when using the custom navigation button to load pip on YouTube. Am I missing something or are we doomed to restore the window to full screen to press play?

qu3becker said:
People on the Pixel forum and on reddit are saying that you need a Youtube Red subscription to be able to use PIP on the Nexus 6P without resorting to use a navigation shortcut. That's crazy.
Edit: I'm Canadian so Red is a no go.
I can't press resume after pausing when using the custom navigation button to load pip on YouTube. Am I missing something or are we doomed to restore the window to full screen to press play?
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Hi, just tested mine. Video can resume after pausing in pip mode.

I just see different between O and N was UI and underhood performance... All the mentioned features didn't work at least for me...

I asked about new stuff on oreo on google nexus forum for our 6p..and i just got answer that notification dots works only on Pixel and PiP mode works on Youtube Red and Chrome when watching video in full screen mode..
Welcome to the Nexus Help Forum.
I understand you're facing issues with the notification dots and PiP mode on the Nexus 6P device after the Android update.
Please be informed that notification dots are only available on Pixel. They are not possible on Nexus. Also, PiP on YouTube is only possible if the you have YouTube Red. There are also many apps that are not currently compatible with PiP. Therefore, please let me know which apps are you trying to use PiP with.

azurehawke said:
I flashed the update today, and I was disappointed to see the Marshmallow boot animation, the new app drawer is nonexistent, and I can't change the icons.
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I'm using Lawnchair launcher, great stock pixel looking with extra option and feature including icon pack support and dots on app on homescreen, different visual effect, highly recommend it

using Amir Zaidi's pixel launcher version 2.1
working reasonably good. Most features works fine , DOTS is acting strange working intermittently.
But as a whole, just an APK to install , no root needed ( I am rooted BTW), and no need for any system.img flash if you wanna go back,

Anyone Using A Screen Filter/Night Mode App With Oreo?

I don't know if it's just me, but I was previously using the app midnight to dim my phone at night & had no issues.
It appears with Oreo, that the status bar & when you pull down the status bar don't change with the screen.
So while the screen is only set to say 30%, the status bar & nav bar are full brightness. Again, I don't recall this issue
with 7.1.2
Is anyone successfully using an app that actually dims everything with Oreo, & if not, is this an issue with Oreo?
Thanks!

I am having this issue with my device and it's driving me crazy. I did not have the issue with Nougat, but in Oreo none of the apps work on the status bar and notification shade. This is exacerbated by the fact that the notification shade is blinding white now instead of dark gray so it lights up the room when I pull it down at night in the dark.
I normally use the app "Darker Pro," but I tried about five different screen dimming apps last night and they all have the exact same issue so I think it's an Oreo thing. I also used to use the app Snap Swipe Drawer and noticed that I can no longer activate it from swiping on the notification bar. I think Oreo is not allowing anything to draw over the status bar or notification shade area.

prnorm said:
I am having this issue with my device and it's driving me crazy. I did not have the issue with Nougat, but in Oreo none of the apps work on the status bar and notification shade. This is exacerbated by the fact that the notification shade is blinding white now instead of dark gray so it lights up the room when I pull it down at night in the dark.
I normally use the app "Darker Pro," but I tried about five different screen dimming apps last night and they all have the exact same issue so I think it's an Oreo thing. I also used to use the app Snap Swipe Drawer and noticed that I can no longer activate it from swiping on the notification bar. I think Oreo is not allowing anything to draw over the status bar or notification shade area.
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Exactly! The notification bar is extremely white which just furthers the issue. The white was a poor choice in my opinion and is hideous.
I've tried 2 other apps & no luck. Plus many don't get updated.
I emailed the developer of Midnight & he said it would be a priority, so that's good.
I'm glad someone else uses these apps. I was beginning to think everyone enjoyed being blinded by their phone at night.
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I don't understand the issue... Just dim your display normally using the brightness slider. Everything gets dim that way.
If you want a working night mode too (blue light filter), flash the o pixel mod in the themes section and use that too.
Or even f.lux would work if you have root.
This is a complete non-issue because dimming the display works 100% without any 3rd party apps.

swapavi said:
I don't understand the issue... Just dim your display normally using the brightness slider. Everything gets dim that way.
If you want a working night mode too (blue light filter), flash the o pixel mod in the themes section and use that too.
Or even f.lux would work if you have root.
This is a complete non-issue because dimming the display works 100% without any 3rd party apps.
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The issue isn't the fact you can't dim the display as we all know you can move the slider.
It's night mode apps only dimming the screen itself & not the notification bar. You may have your brightness in night mode to really dark, but pull down the status bar & it's 100% bright. This issue didn't exist on 7.1.2 with these apps. I was specifically using Midnight with 0 issues.
I'm not rooted, so no flashing. Also there was no need before O as these issues didn't exist.
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quickstang said:
The issue isn't the fact you can't dim the display as we all know you can move the slider.
It's night mode apps only dimming the screen itself & not the notification bar. You may have your brightness in night mode to really dark, but pull down the status bar & it's 100% bright. This issue didn't exist on 7.1.2 with these apps. I was specifically using Midnight with 0 issues.
I'm not rooted, so no flashing. Also there was no need before O as these issues didn't exist.
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Well it sounds like the app needs to be updated to work on Oreo properly.
One of the reasons there are dev preview is for developers to test their apps on the new Android update and it would seem that this dev didn't do that.
Can I ask why you don't just use the brightness slider? It's one of the simplest things to do if you want your screen dim.

swapavi said:
Well it sounds like the app needs to be updated to work on Oreo properly.
One of the reasons there are dev preview is for developers to test their apps on the new Android update and it would seem that this dev didn't do that.
Can I ask why you don't just use the brightness slider? It's one of the simplest things to do if you want your screen dim.
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Because it isn't dark enough at night and early in the morning when I like my eyes to adjust. If it went darker as part of stock Android, it would eliminate the need for these apps.
Personal preference. My wife can't see crap & has to have the brightness on her phone up even at night. Drives me nuts & blinds the crap out of me.
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quickstang said:
Because it isn't dark enough at night and early in the morning when I like my eyes to adjust. If it went darker as part of stock Android, it would eliminate the need for these apps.
Personal preference. My wife can't see crap & has to have the brightness on her phone up even at night. Drives me nuts & blinds the crap out of me.
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Okay gotcha, makes sense.
Hopefully they update that app soon then.
If I come across any other app similar to that, I'll mention it in this thread then

I've been using f.lux and that seems to be working OK with Oreo.

I used Twilight Pro when I was on DP4 and while it worked, it did have the persistent blinding overlay notification. You can manually mute that for 2 hours tops at a time or there is a way to keep it muted with Tasker. https://www.xda-developers.com/hide-app-running-background-notification-android-oreo/

Does your app provide administration rights capability? There would be an entry in device administrators for your app [name]. For example, I use Bluelight Filter and if I want to use full dimming capability, including overlay, I have to give admin permission. The trade off being that some Android security lock features are disabled - such as locking Android pre-boot with a password.
It's been posted in another topic, but as far as "muting" the messages about background notifications in Oreo, this is a new Android security feature with no workaround yet and you can only set it to a low priority for notifications. At least that way it will minimize to one line when there are other app notifications, and remove the icon from the status bar.

MostlyLurking6P said:
Does your app provide administration rights capability? There would be an entry in device administrators for your app [name]. For example, I use Bluelight Filter and if I want to use full dimming capability, including overlay, I have to give admin permission. The trade off being that some Android security lock features are disabled - such as locking Android pre-boot with a password.
It's been posted in another topic, but as far as "muting" the messages about background notifications in Oreo, this is a new Android security feature with no workaround yet and you can only set it to a low priority for notifications. At least that way it will minimize to one line when there are other app notifications, and remove the icon from the status bar.
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Where are you finding device admin for bluelight? I had it installed, didn't work, but reinstalled trying to find what you stated, but no luck.
I've got a device admin apps settings, but it isn't listed.
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Sorry it's not device admin, it's accessibility. My bad. This is the permission that's required for notifications and screen overlay being dimmed. It's a trade-off. So far I don't use it because I prefer enhanced encryption.

What I loved about my screen dimming app is that it did so automatically at set times and precisely to the right level. The brightness is now at daytime strength the first time I turn it on at bedtime and too dark when i first need it in the morning, not to mention fiddling with the slider to get it just right. Is there another way to schedule the brightness levels?

Still no one with luck with this?
Once it's a cross-device problem, why not move the thread to a general forum?
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quickstang said:
I don't know if it's just me, but I was previously using the app midnight to dim my phone at night & had no issues.
It appears with Oreo, that the status bar & when you pull down the status bar don't change with the screen.
So while the screen is only set to say 30%, the status bar & nav bar are full brightness. Again, I don't recall this issue
with 7.1.2
Is anyone successfully using an app that actually dims everything with Oreo, & if not, is this an issue with Oreo?
Thanks!
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Did you find a fix for your problem?
Personally I am rooted ONLY for the night mode included on the pixel 2 mod. Furthermore, I was looking for a way to only have the night mode w/o any other pixel feature but couldn't find a way.
I know you said you aren't rooted and I can guess your unwillingness to do so, but honestly that's the best way to get a properly working night mode.
Take into acct. that I've tried a lot of apps and none were satisfactory. As I said before, this is the only reason I'm rooted.
Anyways, I hope you found a way to get a night mode working on your phone.

Any success? Really would like 100% overlay coverage including notifications, everything.
If you web browse at night you can invert the screen colours, which helps a bit until you hit a 'dark' image

I use Darker Pro and yes I can confirm that the status bar and notifications/qs panel does not get darker on oreo.
I used the same app all the time with nougat and it worked flawless.
It is a android oreo issue. Google has disabled apps to draw over system ui elements in oreo, that's what the darker pro playstore description says. I initially thought we need root to enable it. I've been trying to search for root apps that would let me do it but no luck there either.

Alright. I got a bit of a Work around. You will need root. Install Kernel Adiutor and go to Screen option. Now lower the Red, Green and Blue values equally. The screen will get dimmer.
I know this isn't as convenient as using a simple app, but atleast it's something.
Oh, and if you're running a lineage OS based rom you won't need root or the kernel Adiutor. Just go to Live Display in setting and you'll find the same Red, Green and Blue adjustment there.

This one works over both bars, but needs xposed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-screen-filter-t2893936

[DISCUSS] What are you doing to improve your Pixel 2XL

Hi all crazy people dishing out enough to buy a used car for a shiny new phone!!!
So...this thread is for ideas on how to improve (make as it should be) your Pixel 2XL...I'll start.
I enabled Developer options and set animations to 0.5X.
I enabled systemui tuner to turn off some icons in that cluttered status bar.
Why put an LED capable of so many colors on a phone and only have it blink green occasionally? Madness Google!!!
Light Manager went on first so I could have a charging and charged light as well as different colors for different apps.
Ooo...Google added a hidden trick that if you have black wallpaper (edges at least) then the app drawer background will also black out....what about all the other system apps Google?!!! And what? We have to add photos to black borders if we want them as wallpaper? I say thee NAY!
Rootless substratum - Andromeda to the rescue! Most themes work well on Oreo and you can have your dark UI back on everything...which as a side note blue tint does not show up on!
Once you get that up and running, I put Pitch Black theme on and also grabbed a center clock mod that works great!
Looking around for a circle battery mod that works and some way to mod the colors of the status bar icons. Oreo is being a pain for some themers.
A little more work and who needs root?
Anyone find a good mod to fix the color saturation? Or at least make Vivid Color switch do something?
So...what have you done? :highfive:

Great idea for a thread.
I had Nova Prime on mine with the Google Companion plug in to enable the Google swipe and it worked great to hide the dock at the bottom. Hopefully I will get nice one from Google tomorrow that's defect free.

How do you get rid of the notification for light manager?

AndrasLOHF said:
How do you get rid of the notification for light manager?
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Like any notification, just long press (hold on notification) and then choose block all notifications from this app.

KennyG123 said:
Like any notification, just long press (hold on notification) and then choose block all notifications from this app.
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Cool. In the past that would kill the LED as well if I remember. Guess that got that figured out.

Cool thread. And the light manager idea is great. I don't understand why Google doesn't have a charging LED.
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Nova Prime.
Substratum and a dark theme
Changed the navbar icons to hollow ones to help with burn in
icon pack
light manager
super thin case with my metal plate for my magnet mount in the car

Anyone having memory management issues? And has done something to improve it? Frequently getting redraws with only 6-10 apps open. :|
I originally had andromeda and substratum setup, naptime x (via adb), was using sprite to get center clock and colour options for the status and nav bars. Of course opted for nova launcher over pixel launcher!

OK, had the Oreo colorizer installed to improve the colors but then seen it using 2% battery after a full day...saw there was an update and after mashing update phone a 100 times finally sideloaded it! The saturated option is what I am used to and I think are great! I see some prefer just boosted...a compromise between boosted and saturated would be great.
Have gotten 3 days without charging the phone whereas at best I could make it 2 on the 6P! I may just stay unrooted if Substratum Andromeda would work a little better...takes like 10 tries sometimes to connect the ADB Andromeda script. And Pitch Black seems to update the theme almost everyday!
Loving this phone now!

Magisk 14.4
Substratum - Swift Black
Nova Prime
Tapet - Black Wallpaper
Removed Nav Bar - Using Swift Navigation instead.

KennyG123 said:
I say thee NAY! Rootless substratum - Andromeda to the rescue! Most themes work well on Oreo and you can have your dark UI back on everything...which as a side note blue tint does not show up on!
Once you get that up and running, I put Pitch Black theme on and also grabbed a center clock mod that works great!
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That's great to hear!
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Looking around for a circle battery mod that works and some way to mod the colors of the status bar icons. Oreo is being a pain for some themers.
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As far as I know, the battery is completely drawn in Java so overlays are mods won't work, unless you do rooted mods
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A little more work and who needs root?
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I've been running rootless for nearly a whole year and it's been great!

KennyG123 said:
I may just stay unrooted if Substratum Andromeda would work a little better...takes like 10 tries sometimes to connect the ADB Andromeda script. And Pitch Black seems to update the theme almost everyday!
Loving this phone now!
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Usually we don't like telling people this but the connection of the phone to their Oreo device is based on the computer they used, for example, some of the Macs I tried kept disconnecting the ADB shell/disabling USB debugging and thus, disables the app - which gets understandably annoying.
I usually test on my main rig regarding Andromeda, and it's been running great with 5 devices attached at all times, including when they are disconnected.

nicholaschum said:
That's great to hear!
As far as I know, the battery is completely drawn in Java so overlays are mods won't work, unless you do rooted mods
I've been running rootless for nearly a whole year and it's been great!
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Usually we don't like telling people this but the connection of the phone to their Oreo device is based on the computer they used, for example, some of the Macs I tried kept disconnecting the ADB shell/disabling USB debugging and thus, disables the app - which gets understandably annoying.
I usually test on my main rig regarding Andromeda, and it's been running great with 5 devices attached at all times, including when they are disconnected.
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Thanks Nicholas for all you do!!! I am sure Andromeda will only get better and it has been a blessing!!!
Thanks for the tip about the connection. My desktop is ancient...maybe I will try my new laptop and see how it works.

KennyG123 said:
OK, had the Oreo colorizer installed to improve the colors but then seen it using 2% battery after a full day...saw there was an update and after mashing update phone a 100 times finally sideloaded it! The saturated option is what I am used to and I think are great! I see some prefer just boosted...a compromise between boosted and saturated would be great.
Have gotten 3 days without charging the phone whereas at best I could make it 2 on the 6P! I may just stay unrooted if Substratum Andromeda would work a little better...takes like 10 tries sometimes to connect the ADB Andromeda script. And Pitch Black seems to update the theme almost everyday!
Loving this phone now!
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How are you getting 3 days on a charge? I'm getting just under 2. Not that I'm complaining, but 3 would be badass.

Awesome thread idea -- was tired seeing so many negative threads concerning this phone. This phone has been nothing but great to me.
Here's what I did!
- Global full immersive mode (did this AS SOON as i unboxed it, after unlocking bootloader)
- Completely disabled the nav bar (never pops up)
- LMT Pie Controls
- Dropped down the animations to .5x
- Nova Prime
- Light Flow/Manager
- Substratum (pitch black theme)
- Disabled apps I dont use (uninstalled the ones i could)
After applying Nov. update, I decided to Root for a few reasons:
- Complete removal of the nav bar (editing the build.prompt)
- Got tired of seeing ads in Chrome Beta
- Completely removed apps within the system I dont use instead of just disabling them (nice and slim)
This phone has been absolutely incredible - insanely smooth with zero lag. No burn-in (obviously due to my set up) or anything negative about this phone that has been reported.
More than likely going to be on the Nov. build until ROMs start come rolling in -- until then, im completely satisfied.

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How are you getting 3 days on a charge? I'm getting just under 2. Not that I'm complaining, but 3 would be badass.
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Nothing special at all! I am using it the same as I did my 6P. I do clear all recents 2 or 3 times a day to make sure nothing is running in the background. Have brightness about 40% with adaptive brightness on. Am on Google Fi so make sure to be on wifi most of the day....from experience poor signal is a big drain. I keep location on battery saving which really helps Google Fit and my smartwatch be more accurate. Probably could get even more out of it if I did not play a battery hog called Dice with Buddies.

Dumped the Oreo Colorizer app for sideloading the November update...Saturated is my lobster!!!!
Anyone find a circle battery mod that works yet?

Loving my 2xl so far, aside from not being able to find a glass screen protector that lasts more than 2 days without dust under it!
Running sideloaded Nov. update,
Magisk 14.4 rooted
light manager is a must! (different color leds for work/personal app notifications)
substratum swift black
and good ol adaway to keep the ads at bay.
Would love a circle clock mod
and would KILL for a volume adjustment mod (set notification and ringtone to separate levels)

mnrivera210 said:
Magisk 14.4
Substratum - Swift Black
Nova Prime
Tapet - Black Wallpaper
Removed Nav Bar - Using Swift Navigation instead.
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what is swift navigation?

byproxy said:
what is swift navigation?
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Think he meant Swipe Navigation : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.suphi.swipenavigation&hl=en

Android Messages Dark Mode

The latest update for Messages now has the option for Dark Mode, and also the Messages For Web has a Dark Mode as well!

Awesome, just got version 3.5 with dark mode enabled

Very nice. Now just add auto mode so it's white during day and black at night.

It's awesome! But they took away the widget... That might be a deal-breaker for me. Giving it a couple days.

They also removed the option to customize conversation color bubbles. The blue on blue looks hideous.

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They also removed the option to customize conversation color bubbles. The blue on blue looks hideous.
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To be fair, about 80% of the color choices were terrible.. Like, 5 year old kid crayon colors. The do need to bring back the widget and color customizing though. Just a little more, grown up for the latter

Soooo, I changed my wallpaper, and now the new look is gone. Seriously. I've force closed, cleared cache, rebooted, nothing will bring it back. What. The. Eff... Maybe it wasn't turned on correctly on the server side with this update? Anyone else have this problem? I really miss it, but I went back one version and have my widget back. Not sure which I want more...

It must be server side because now it is back to the old way

Aaaand it's gone.

Damn. I came here to see if anyone else had it switch back on them. Stupid server side sh*t. Put the changes in the apk and leave my phone alone Google ?

Same here as well. The new material design simply disappeared and reverted back to the previous layout

Yep looks like Google removed the Dark Mode on the back end.

They removed the entire new look actually. I bet they didn't mean to push out the new look with version 3.5. It would make sense as to why we had to force close to get it to show, and why it's back to the old design. Either way, dumb.

Chasing your tail Google!

It will be back, some tweaking to do apparently. That looked so good, maybe the most visually appealing change I've ever seen made to an app.

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Well, here's something ugly.
The new version that previously had dark mode as an option has been changed directly from Google. It's gone.
No more dark mode.

Hey so I pretty much Installed an apk that gave me the dark mode option.
But I can confirm that It was swiftly taken away magically.
(Rooting my device could solve this . . ?)
Really upset about this actually.

It was turned off on the server side. Just have to wait for it to be enabled again.
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Hey so I pretty much Installed an apk that gave me the dark mode option.
But I can confirm that It was swiftly taken away magically.
(Rooting my device could solve this . . ?)
Really upset about this actually.
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EeZeEpEe said:
It was turned off on the server side. Just have to wait for it to be enabled again.
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I just now installed reinstalled textra so I'm good.
But in the grand scheme of things how to sway hireups to set black theme option default.

And its back with the latest update...for now.

Dark mode on Gmail OnePlus pro 5g

Has anyone successfully gotten dark mode working on Gmail on the T-Mobile one plus pro 5g?

Oh man I feel your pain on this one. It's the only app that isn't dark for me, and it's extremely annoying. The one option you have right now is system -> developer options -> Override force-dark which makes everything dark, even gmail, but also looks a little weird in my opinion.

I had dark mode with the Galaxy S10 and the OnePlus 7T but lost it when I did the JOD upgrade to this. I'd us the force override dark mode but it makes the text on Facebook white on white and it's impossible to see.

Use swift installer to theme your apps. Works well on my 7t

Dark mode was not working for me either. However, I just rooted and started restoring my apps and some data...now it works perfectly fine. And this is the "normal" dark mode for Gmail. I did not restore the Gmail app data either. I don't know. Maybe clear the data and load it back up??

I cleared cache and data. Restarted app. Brought it back up and running again. Rebooted.
Dark mode now.
Hope this helps.

it just started working, Dark mode is now enabled for gmail.
no root, no clear cache, no clear data. nothing. just working

calestro said:
it just started working, Dark mode is now enabled for gmail.
no root, no clear cache, no clear data. nothing. just working
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Yeah, something must have been turned on in the background. My horizon light also works now for everything. Not just the built-in messages app, like others have claimed.