mirror\cast\stream to TV [non-smart] - OnePlus 6T Questions & Answers

Does anyone have experience with a device that will mirror this phones display to a TV without a WiFi network? I'm pretty sure Roku and Chromecast require network connectivity.

A Chromecast will work internally with the phones hotspot feature

Zachisimo said:
A Chromecast will work internally with the phones hotspot feature
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Does this require actual hotspot data?

Yes the Chromecast itself is what downloads the show you are watching. The phone is merely a remote telling the Chromecast what to do

Zachisimo said:
Yes the Chromecast itself is what downloads the show you are watching. The phone is merely a remote telling the Chromecast what to do
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Oh yeah... No I'm wanting the phone to be the physical streaming medium but I want the TV to basically mirror what would be on my display .. Say I was playing PUBG and wanted that to show up on the larger screen... Or if I was using the Netflix app on my phone and wanted the movie to show on the TV... Is there something that can do this?
Sorry title is misleading

Causical said:
Oh yeah... No I'm wanting the phone to be the physical streaming medium but I want the TV to basically mirror what would be on my display .. Say I was playing PUBG and wanted that to show up on the larger screen... Or if I was using the Netflix app on my phone and wanted the movie to show on the TV... Is there something that can do this?
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Not to my knowledge as everything is pretty much over the internet now. Maybe streaming pubg, but definitely not Netflix.

Is there a USB type-c cable with an HDMI connector on the other end that would work or will the phone not output to an HDMI like that?

I hate the Chromecast because you MUST have the "middle man" aka Chromecast connected to the Internet for it to work. It's so stupid. You can't just use a router, nope they make it where you must have internet access even to mirror to the thing. It's so stupid.
Rant over...but you can get mirrorcast HDMI dongles on wish cheap, and probably cheaply made. They also sell CC clones that don't have to be connected to the network to mirror
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Causical said:
Is there a USB type-c cable with an HDMI connector on the other end that would work or will the phone not output to an HDMI like that?
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These are also on wish. I'm sure you can find much better quality ones on eBay or Amazon though

I wondered if this will do the job?? I just don't know if the phone outputs video data through its USB-c port

Alright I think I figured it out... If a TV has MHL built into it's HDMI port then it is good to connect a phone to with just a USB-c to HDMI adapter... However MHL needs a power source apparently and MHL seems to be a requirement to convert mobile signal to HDMI apparently. So if MHL is not built into the TV you actually have to have an MHL compatible adapter which connects to a power source to enable the USB-c to HDMI connection.

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DVI and USB Audio?

Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
On the same note, since my monitor doesn't have speakers and an HDMI audio extractor is about the same price as the OUYA, it'd be nice to be able to use a USB DAC to output audio to my desktop speakers. Apparently the SGS3 has it enabled, it just isn't in the stock android kernel yet: See Android Issue 24614
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
TopherBarnett said:
Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
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The resolution isn't an OUYA specific problem, it's the same on many devices. I believe it does have to do with HDCP. I know there are some people out there with similar situations as you that have a converter cable that works, but it's not very common. IMO this is something I believe they never thought would come up was a problem that seems to be more common than not.
And yes, any type of converter box or audio splitter is going to cost you. the HDMI to Component box that I was looking at that I heard works costs 150, so it's not really worth it.
As for the sound over USB, I haven't heard of that yet for OUYA, but I know it was actually part of android starting with 4.1. That does not mean it works with the OUYA, however, as it seems only a few phones/tablets actually have the ability. If you have a micro USB to USB adapter, you might try it through that, but other than that not sure if there's any options.
I was really hoping this thing would have a AUX port, but it doesn't. I know there's some devs working on pushing sound and video from android over a network, but it's still in early stages and as far as I know no one has it working yet.
Really hope someone finds a good workaround. I don't particularly want to buy a TV just for this little box.
Well this is interesting...I just installed CWM, and while in recovery it shows full screen and looks rather nice. This must mean that it's not an inherent problem with my screen or connection, but is something do do with the software. This makes a work-around seem feasible, no?
Just found a reply in the StockPlus thread in the Dev section, but thought I'd repost here since I don't have 10 posts yet and can't reply there:
KyleK29 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SD-CM-UAU...Syba+USB+Audio
This one, from what I understand it's Android compliant, so it just needs the standard USB Audio modules. I know the Nexus 7 got it working with certain kernels that had the necessary modules loaded. Jellybean was supposed to make this easy, but it's been hit or miss on which ROMs have the files.
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I have the same USB audio adapter and it's not working for me either. Really hoping someone cracks this nut.
TopherBarnett said:
Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
On the same note, since my monitor doesn't have speakers and an HDMI audio extractor is about the same price as the OUYA, it'd be nice to be able to use a USB DAC to output audio to my desktop speakers. Apparently the SGS3 has it enabled, it just isn't in the stock android kernel yet: See Android Issue 24614
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
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The issue with this is that the Ouya looks for screenmodes of 1920x1080p and 1280x720p in the monitor EDID.
Failing this, it reverts back to a letterboxed 640x480 screenmode.
There's a thread here with more info.
I have an old monitor that runs 1600x900 I use it on next to my computer just to root. If I could make it use 1280x720 and my logitech usb sound card I'd get more use from the ouya as it's now hooked to a shaerd TV. I can run my PS3 and xbox on the monitor at 1280x720 and get sound from the av outputs.
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muriani said:
The issue with this is that the Ouya looks for screenmodes of 1920x1080p and 1280x720p in the monitor EDID.
Failing this, it reverts back to a letterboxed 640x480 screenmode.
There's a thread here with more info.
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Good info on that thread, too bad nobody has seemed to make much progress though. My monitor is capable of up to 1920x1200 and supports 1280p and 720p resolutions. Sounds like the solution is either to get the EDID talking correctly, or hack in a way to override the OUYA settings and change the resolution manually.
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
shaDNfro said:
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
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I bet the switch provides some EDID spoofing. Most do in order to keep display sources from freaking out when the display is disconnected and reconnected.
Glad to hear it works...hopefully that means it's less of an issue with HDCP and more to do with EDID. I'd rather not have to buy a switch that is almost as expensive as the console itself when DVI and USB audio (in my opinion) should work out of the box. Hopefully the OUYA devs get around to adding support, but I have more hope for the XDA chefs.
Hi.
shaDNfro said:
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
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I just bought such a Ligawo device, and whenever I plug in the HDMI-DVI cable, the OUYA seems to turn off sound via HDMI, seemingly because al that digital stuff is so "clever" it knows that DVI doesn't do sound. At least that's what I think, and one of the customer reviews on the device on Amazon (the link I cannot -yet- post here, grmbl) confirms it, kind of.
You don't have that problem?
Regards,
Karsten

How does screen mirroring work?

How does it work and what can I do with it?! Tried screen mirroring with my 32" Samsung TV but idk how to do it!
It worked both ways for me after I updated the system on the tv
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inmnbob said:
It worked both ways for me after I updated the system on the tv
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Sorry but that doesn't help me at all...
Joe0113 said:
How does it work and what can I do with it?! Tried screen mirroring with my 32" Samsung TV but idk how to do it!
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Sorry, but have to ask - does your TV support it? What is the model#?
If it does, you should be able to enable it then just turn on screen mirroring on your phone.
My Samsung TV doesn't have the option for screen mirroring built in, but I accomplish it with what I do have - the MHL HDMI dongle and the allshare cast. One is a direct connection, the other is wireless.
I'd imagine it works the same as the allshare cast hub. When it's on,all I need to do is turn on screen mirroring from the notification window and it automatically connects to it. If you share the model of your TV myself or someone can look it up. Or you can check out your manual first then go from there. Without knowing what you have, here's an example :
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000058/6528/41579/UN55ES6500FXZA
AFAIK it has to be a newer model for the mirroring without the dongles. : http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/is-it-possible-to-test-screencast-using-eclipse-simulator/141/219986#post1
Hope that helps.
Can a rooted phone screen mirror? I just got a new 60in samsung but I cant get mirroring to work. It connects and then drops a few seconds after.
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I had to update the ROM in my smartv before I could connect my phone to the TV and then toto the phone. Some samsung devices can mirror the TV as well as have the TV.
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Sorry, but have to ask - does your TV support it? What is the model#?
If it does, you should be able to enable it then just turn on screen mirroring on your phone.
My Samsung TV doesn't have the option for screen mirroring built in, but I accomplish it with what I do have - the MHL HDMI dongle and the allshare cast. One is a direct connection, the other is wireless.
I'd imagine it works the same as the allshare cast hub. When it's on,all I need to do is turn on screen mirroring from the notification window and it automatically connects to it. If you share the model of your TV myself or someone can look it up. Or you can check out your manual first then go from there. Without knowing what you have, here's an example :
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000058/6528/41579/UN55ES6500FXZA
AFAIK it has to be a newer model for the mirroring without the dongles. : http://developer.samsung.com/forum/thread/is-it-possible-to-test-screencast-using-eclipse-simulator/141/219986#post1
Hope that helps.
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Model #- LN32D403E4DXZA
Version- SP01
Joe0113 said:
Model #- LN32D403E4DXZA
Version- SP01
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LN32D403E4DXZA specifications don't indicate built-in support for miracast. So you would need to get either the Allshare cast, or another miracast adapter like the netgear push2tv (PTV3000 or PTV2000) to be able to mirror your phone to the TV.
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LN32D403E4DXZA specifications don't indicate built-in support for miracast. So you would need to get either the Allshare cast, or another miracast adapter like the netgear push2tv (PTV3000 or PTV2000) to be able to mirror your phone to the TV.
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...or the other option is just to run the wired MHL HDMI connect to mirror - like this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-HDTV-Adapter-ET-H10FAUWEGWW/dp/B00BTCPQ5C/
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...or the other option is just to run the wired MHL HDMI connect to mirror - like this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-HDTV-Adapter-ET-H10FAUWEGWW/dp/B00BTCPQ5C/
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Certainly.
Personally, I find that short cable inconvenient, but that's just me. If the goal is to play movies on the phone and mirror to TV, sure. But I end up wanting to share pictures or short videos taken on my phone, on the big screen. For that, I would prefer the ability to have the phone with me (on the couch) and not have to stand next to the TV with that short cable connecting it to my phone.
For now, I'm using the Roku (juice channel) to share local video/pictures, but is not the best option because it doesn't let me share my pictures/videos from dropbox or other online storage sites. I have to download it to my phone first.
Waiting for the wireless mirroring options to drop further in cost
jj14 said:
Certainly.
Personally, I find that short cable inconvenient, but that's just me. If the goal is to play movies on the phone and mirror to TV, sure. But I end up wanting to share pictures or short videos taken on my phone, on the big screen. For that, I would prefer the ability to have the phone with me (on the couch) and not have to stand next to the TV with that short cable connecting it to my phone.
For now, I'm using the Roku (juice channel) to share local video/pictures, but is not the best option because it doesn't let me share my pictures/videos from dropbox or other online storage sites. I have to download it to my phone first.
Waiting for the wireless mirroring options to drop further in cost
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For sure! I prefer not to have it directly connected -but was more for the sake of informing the OP.
I use the mhl dongle it like you mentioned, if we're watching something that doesn't require me to babysit the phone lol.
I got lucky when Samsung was having a 50% off promo and I picked up the allshare hub then. None of my TV's are "smart" TV's, so it works well for my "dumb" TV's.
Also, a while back, I picked up a pogoplug for under $20 and I use that for storage- kinda like a "mini NAS". You can hook up usb drives (flash or harddrives) to it and right now I basically have a couple of flash drives to serve the media to phone, so it's cool for mirroring or just while out and about. Pretty cheap,quick and doesn't require much effort so it was well worth it for me...it comes in handy because it's set up so I don't have to do any transcoding for videos - I just use the mxplayer app and the phone does the rest.
There is one thing I have yet to try, just for curiosity's sake - to run xbmc on my S4 while it's connected to the TV with the wired MHL dongle, then use my wife's phone or my tablet with an xbmc remote app to connect to and control the videos to play from the s4 while mirrored...
That's cool with the roku. Have you tried just using something like couchyplay http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/19661/couchy-play
or rodropbox http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/18042/rodropbox so you don't have to d/l to your phone from dropbox?
You could even use something like the cloudpipes app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maximussoft.cloudpipes&hl=en to automate moving/copying files back and forth on dropbox while you're not using your phone (at work or sleeping ..or whatever)
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Have you tried just using something like couchyplay http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/19661/couchy-play
or rodropbox http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/18042/rodropbox so you don't have to d/l to your phone from dropbox?
You could even use something like the cloudpipes app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maximussoft.cloudpipes&hl=en to automate moving/copying files back and forth on dropbox while you're not using your phone (at work or sleeping ..or whatever)
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I have not! Thank you. I will try these out - neat!
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I have not! Thank you. I will try these out - neat!
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Let me know how it works out if you do.
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pastert33 said:
Can a rooted phone screen mirror? I just got a new 60in samsung but I cant get mirroring to work. It connects and then drops a few seconds after.
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Doesn't sound like it, according to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365242 there's mention of it not working while rooted

[Q] Hdmi INPUT? Possible to use N10 as monitor?

Just wondering if it's possible to use nexus 10 as essentially a portable hdmi monitor. I would like to Sometimes play console in lounge without taking up the TV and just wondered if it's possible to connect console to nexus basically... I already have a HDMI to mini HDMI lead... Wireless would be even better although not essential... Briefly investigated screen cast but seems like this is only designed to wirelessly stream to a TV (which already has hdmi input)
Many Thanks,
Sam.
Ps my N10 is currently not rooted although I would consider rooting if it would enable such a possibility
samyoue said:
Just wondering if it's possible to use nexus 10 as essentially a portable hdmi monitor. I would like to Sometimes play console in lounge without taking up the TV and just wondered if it's possible to connect console to nexus basically... I already have a HDMI to mini HDMI lead... Wireless would be even better although not essential... Briefly investigated screen cast but seems like this is only designed to wirelessly stream to a TV (which already has hdmi input)
Many Thanks,
Sam.
Ps my N10 is currently not rooted although I would consider rooting if it would enable such a possibility
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N10 is designed for OUTPUT only.
That said, it's resolution is high enough that it would be a cool feature, but it's OUTPUT only.
Thanks for the reply I figured that might be the case, any ideas if its possible in a virtual sense? Ie plug a transmitter into console or other hdmi output and have it transmit the signal which can be picked up in an app like YouTube (but source is generated from transmitter rather than the Web)
Thanks again
samyoue said:
Thanks for the reply I figured that might be the case, any ideas if its possible in a virtual sense? Ie plug a transmitter into console or other hdmi output and have it transmit the signal which can be picked up in an app like YouTube (but source is generated from transmitter rather than the Web)
Thanks again
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Only solution I know of right now is Onlive, but then you have to pay for the game AND a subscription.
samyoue said:
Thanks for the reply I figured that might be the case, any ideas if its possible in a virtual sense? Ie plug a transmitter into console or other hdmi output and have it transmit the signal which can be picked up in an app like YouTube (but source is generated from transmitter rather than the Web)
Thanks again
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This might be possible, depending on what you want to play.
If it's a DVD/blu ray, you can stream that on a local wifi network with VLC on a computer, and play it on MX player on your tab, just point MX to the address of the stream.
Swiped from my Nexus 10 using xda-developers app
I'm after doing it without a intermediary computer, that said I'm currently looking into hdmi to composite adapter into a raspberry pi and using that to stream to network and picking it up via this mx player you mentioned...
samyoue said:
I'm after doing it without a intermediary computer, that said I'm currently looking into hdmi to composite adapter into a raspberry pi and using that to stream to network and picking it up via this mx player you mentioned...
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That could be possible, but yikes! HDMI to composite is like going back light years of technology!
But yeah I've wanted to do the same in the past, to run my GameCube without a TV.
I ended up with a LCD hdtv with hdmi, component, composite and vga, so I just use that (mostly for my PS3 now).
I actually just ordered a pi last week!
I'm going to use it as a file server with a 1.5TB usb drive, and also a Wi-Fi repeater, on top of that, a torrent box (qBittorrent with http remote interface).
Gl though with the video thing!
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Nexus Player vs Chromecast 2015

Hello
Does the nexus player have all Chromecast features? I mean can i stream my files from my phone to the nexus player? The new Chromecast had improvements in streaming speed, so which device is faster?
Sorry for my english
I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
This will work fine
Can't get much simpler and reviews are good enough.
Get A 5 Port Ethernet Adapter Always
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
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Here you go
guy, the beast, always get a 5 port Ethernet adapter, also you will need a OTG cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8K3GGO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 !
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
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This is the one I bought. Works fine for me!
http://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Gigabit-Ethernet-Converter-Network/dp/B00IJU0K2Q
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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The thing about it is, a new Chromecast is $35, though I've seen it for $30 on sale recently. I've seen the nexus player on sale for $40 at a few places. For the extra $10, the nexus player does much more than the Chromecast, and can function essentially the same as a Chromecast, save for the HBO now app.
Also I perceive casting to the NP is much quicker than my Chromecast on wifi. It's a stronger machine.
For those of you suggesting the RJ45 + USB3.0 hubs, isnt the microUSB port on the back of the NP just a usb2.0 connection? Does adding a USB3.0 hub for expanded memory actually do anything since it should be throttled down to 2.0 speeds at the back of the NP? Or should we just look at getting a 2.0 hub and save a few extra $$$?
Im asking because Im currently looking into my options to expand my memory now that Android6.0 has hit our devices.
Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
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I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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I would've said the same, prior to the Marshmallow upgrade; whether the Cast icon would appear in Cast enabled apps was a matter of pure luck, as well as the "cast screen to" feature on Android devices. I got a lot of Cast connection losses as well, while the content was then still playing on the TV, without any possibility to control it (other than stopping it via the Nexus Player remote).
But all of those issues are fixed now with the Marshmallow upgrade (and I guess the various Google Cast Receiver app updates, that have been released since then).
The one thing that I find absolutely unacceptable is the following fact which you have mentioned as well: That the Nexus Player seems to be a 2nd class Google Cast device, which is e.g. not supported by Spotify, while working perfectly fine on Chromecasts. Google is allowing fragmentation of their Cast ecosystem because of this and this might be the beginning of the end of its acceptance, especially when it comes to Smart TVs that are shipped with Android TV and for which all companies involved are especially advertising the Cast functionality.
To the user who mentioned that both, the Nexus Player and the Chromecast are loading/streaming faster over Ethernet than over Wi-Fi: I strongly doubt that this is the case, especially since, as mentioned above, the available Ethernet adapters are only USB 2.0 capable. If you're talking about an Nvidia Shield TV I'd believe you, since that one supports Gigabit Ethernet natively, but regarding Chromecasts and Nexus Players... maybe if your wi-fi is horrible or you're using 2.4GHz wi-fi only... otherwise...no, not at all.
Anyway, since the original question was something like "Chromecast vs. Nexus Player": I have both, and I fully replaced my Chromecast with my Nexus Player since I have found that it makes the Chromecast redundant.
Some advantages of the Chromecast that should be considered:
-It's perfectly suited for taking it with you when traveling, while the Nexus Player is more of a fixed device that you set up once, connect it to your TV and leave it there.
- The Chromecast might reboot a couple of seconds faster than the Nexus Player, in case you shut off your devices often.
- The Chromecast allows you to adjust the backdrop e.g. with weather data and specific background images; the similar looking stock-backdrop of the Nexus Player cannot be modified at all.
- The Nexus Player wants you to sign into a specific Google account, whereas the Chromecast only requires you to set up a wi-fi.
- Chromecast doesn't need a wall socket and can be powered by your TV's USB port (even though using a real power adapter is recommended due to stability reasons).
- As mentioned, Chromecast isn't treated as a 2nd class Cast device by e.g. HBO (lol) and Spotify.
- You won't have to deal with yet another remote control in addition to your TV's, your audio system's and what-not remote controls, if using a Chromecast
- Google so far hasn't dared to release a firmware upgrade for the Chromecast which increases the brightness to a bazillion % and causes all blacks to look washed-out as hell.
I'm not gonna mention any advantages of the Nexus Player here as I've already said that I, personally, prefer the Nexus Player; I think it comes down to personal preferences regarding the above-points. Some things might be more important to some people, while others aren't, the same goes for what compromises are acceptable to the specific user.
Markolc said:
Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
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Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
priddyma said:
Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
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I don't quite know what you mean? I have a 2.0 USB hub\ethernet hybrid plugged into my nexus players. It gives me 3 full size USB ports and Ethernet.
Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
priddyma said:
Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
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And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
SkOrPn said:
And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
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All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
Markolc said:
All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
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Your WiFi should have big enough buffer to handle a few seconds of WiFi interference... Never had a single problem on a Chromecast wireless in a highly congested 2.4GHz area....
The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
Nate2 said:
The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
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I'm not sure why the Chromecast app would ever need to detect your NP. It's not like you could use that app to configure it.
Maybe it was just my assumption that the Google Nexus Player (which supports casting) would use the Chromecast protocol(?) from Google.
Apparently, there is also a Googlecast protocol that is different from Chromecast?
My Samsung phone has it's own casting protocol that works great with my Samsung HDTV.
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Watch DirecTV Now on TV via USB-C to HDMI adapter?

I've been unable to get DirecTV Now app to continue to run after connecting my PH-1 to a tv with any of several USB-C to HDMI adapters. After maybe 10 seconds the phone shuts the cell connection off and the app reports no network connection. Works fine with YouTube, though. Anybody had success connecting their phone & TV long enough to watch a show on DirecTV? If so, which adapter did you use?
It could be the app detecting a video output and cutting you off as a means of stopping piracy or some type of DRM.
Yeah, HDMI's locked down. Mirrorcast, too (video blacked ou). Still, people with Samsung Galaxy 8s report screen mirroring DirecTV Now. But Samsung hates us developers & I hate their bloatware. Love the fit & finish of this PH-1, and the specs, & the backstory. Got a couple of days before I have to decide whether to keep it or take it back. Ordered Samsung's USB-C to HDMI adapter, maybe it will work better than the others. Watching TV in a hotel or in your RV isn't piracy, 2nd screen should be fair use, right?
I agree 100%. Another one might work as you suggested. HDMI passes DRM information and that costs the manufacturer to license. It's entirely possible some cheaper adapters never licensed the DRM, which would block DRM content from being passed through.
roebling said:
I've been unable to get DirecTV Now app to continue to run after connecting my PH-1 to a tv with any of several USB-C to HDMI adapters. After maybe 10 seconds the phone shuts the cell connection off and the app reports no network connection. Works fine with YouTube, though. Anybody had success connecting their phone & TV long enough to watch a show on DirecTV? If so, which adapter did you use?
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Hey, so which HDMI dongles have you used with your phone? I'm still trying to figure out which one to buy.
logic.dsign said:
Hey, so which HDMI dongles have you used with your phone? I'm still trying to figure out which one to buy.
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Hi. With an LG V20 & an Essential PH-1, I couldn't get the "SlimPort USB-C to HDMI Adapter" to work. Nor did the "Cable Matters USB-C to HDMI 4K 60Hz Adapter" work.
I returned them and the LG V20. Not ready to give up on the Essential PH-1, I got a "Samsung USB-C to HDMI Adapter" and it works perfectly!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XRJDHSR

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