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My needs:
- Good Camera, esp for indoor and low light use. Need a good manual mode. Portrait mode not important, need to shoot mostly landscape pics.
- Good build quality
- Long lasting battery (~1-2 days for light use)
- Light user, no gaming or other heavy apps
The camera of Mi A1 vs Zenfone 3:
- A1 = dual set up vs Zenfone = single 16MP camera
- A1 = no Laser autofocus, no OIS
- Zenfone 3 = Sony IMX 298 sensor (same as on on oneplus 3t), not sure about A1 sensor quality.
- Maximum shutter speed : 0.067s for A1 vs 32s for Zenfone 3
- Zenfone 3 has a full featured manual mode (more options for shutter speed, WB, ISO etc)
Zenfone 3 comes with a full glass back, and is now more than a year old. The price is half of the launch price. What would you advise. The mi A1 or the Zenfone 3?
go for the A1. some users of ZF3 are having camera issue like blur camera or not focusing.
The camera is not great you need full light. The dual camera is more of a marketing gimmick.
Battery is also not great but does well for the capacity.
For battery I recommend the Lenovo P2 although I have no info on the camera.
cheeze.keyk said:
go for the A1. some users of ZF3 are having camera issue like blur camera or not focusing.
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thanks for that info, I went thru the Asus forums and like you said, users have complained of camera focus issuing. Are ther any known issues in the Mi A1 that I need to be aware of?
pow01 said:
The camera is not great you need full light. The dual camera is more of a marketing gimmick.
Battery is also not great but does well for the capacity.
For battery I recommend the Lenovo P2 although I have no info on the camera.
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thanks for confirming what i suspected about the camera on A1. Lenovo P2 was on my list, but its bigger and heavier than I need.
dzarg said:
thanks for confirming what i suspected about the camera on A1. Lenovo P2 was on my list, but its bigger and heavier than I need.
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Both are 5.5" the size difference is minimal. Slightly thicker due to the monster 5100mAh battery
Expandable memory up to 256mb and HD video. The main drawback being that pesky Lenovo software but community is active on here.
If you take indoor photos, don't buy Mi A1. It has awful low light performance (and I mean awful. The pictures come out grainy. However it has slightly improved by Oreo update). The daylight photos come out amazing though! Landscape photos are amazing.
with google camera it's not bad at all
traianescu said:
with google camera it's not bad at all
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Damn, the difference!
Edwin Hamal said:
Damn, the difference!
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Yes, i know.. it is all about software... The hardware, as you see, it is capable to shot great pics in low light condition
@traianescu
thanks for the pics, I can see the big difference.
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
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robgee789 said:
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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thanks a lot, mate. your experience helps my decision making.
robgee789 said:
The camera on the zenfone 3 smashes the mi A1 mate I have both of them and my wife has a zenfone 3 too and we have no issues with the camera
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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If you don't mind, can you post few comparison images? specially in low light. I'm curious.
harshu0101 said:
If you don't mind, can you post few comparison images? specially in low light. I'm curious.
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Yeah man here are a couple i just opened and snapped no messing with settings or anything i havnt even checked them so so can judge for your self mate
these are mi a1
https://i.imgur.com/hSgBe3P.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DpXBhU7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oMdNwgi.jpg
these are zenfone 3
https://i.imgur.com/jIdDDCD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F5M8LKg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nodUMxG.jpg
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Yeah man here are a couple i just opened and snapped no messing with settings or anything i havnt even checked them so so can judge for your self mate
these are mi a1
https://i.imgur.com/hSgBe3P.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DpXBhU7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oMdNwgi.jpg
these are zenfone 3
https://i.imgur.com/jIdDDCD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F5M8LKg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nodUMxG.jpg
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Thanks! Zenfone 3 is better IMO. In A1, images are blurry but in Zenfone 3 images looks sharp and better.
You can get sharp images with the a1 but there is kind of stabilisation so it's hard and videos are better in zenfone 3 too, if you switch to night mode in the zenfone the Image is very bright and pretty clear but night mode on a1 does nothing lol
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
I had a Zenfone 2 Laser and man, how much I hated that phone. It has bloatware with takes a big part of the space and like a Custom ROM fan I am no one even cared for that device. So, I recommend any phone over Asus ones ^^
traianescu said:
with google camera it's not bad at all
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Is HDR+ enabled? The difference between the pictures is huge.
Yes, hdr activated on both cameras, to have a fair comparison..
The camera it is more than i need on the phone.. my complains are two other thing: it is huuuge, compared with my ex iphone 5s and i don't have a real fm radio app.. maybe when we will have the kernel source...
Since the Snapdragon camera app provided with the zenfone max pro m1 is terrible. I was wondering whether a pixelmaster camera apk from asus works in the device or needs to be ported? Can anyone confirm the same.
Yes it works fine .
Are you sure? I'm talking about the ZenUI Camera App here not the stock Snapdragon Camera.
Can you provide screenshots if possible?
No, it works worse than the stock app. Moreover you can't install the latest version of Pixelmaster app.
Is there a way it can be ported? Even Zenfone 5 comes with SD636 and similar specs with zen ui5. So there's a possiblity.
I got the ZenUI Camera running too, but the Super Resolution does not work, and the output quality is worse than Gcam anyway.
You can get the apk from apkpure, or you can simply google zenui camera apk to find one.
actually i was about to buy mi a2 but after i heard about that xioami app camera is trash and with google app you get very impressive results
so now
is the improvement that googel app makes to mi a1 camera makes it worth buying over mi a2 ? espically mi a2 has no headphone jack and no sd card slot which makes me thinking over and over ... is there a huge difference btw mi a2 in camera that makes it worth buying or mi a1 with google app camera makes it slight difference ??
You can go for Redmi note 5 AI instead and use google camera with it, if Android One isn't mandatory.
Google camera is the best choice, Xiaomi stock camera app is trash, I mean, it's OK in good lightning condition, but in darker situations it is trash.
Go for Redmi Note 5, it is better choice than Mi A1 and it's newer. A2 is great too, don't know if someone made working Gcam for Mi A2, if yes then buy Mi A2, but it doesn't have 3.5mm jack if thats important to you
Or if Android One is the trick, check the Nokia lineup... definitely after the time Xiaomi took to release updates, plus the lack of support for GCam, my next phone will be a Nokia (I do want Android one, and they have a better track record for updates).
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Or if Android One is the trick, check the Nokia lineup... definitely after the time Xiaomi took to release updates, plus the lack of support for GCam, my next phone will be a Nokia (I do want Android one, and they have a better track record for updates).
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You're definitely right . I also think about Nokia as my next Android one phone .
mar.ur said:
You're definitely right . I also think about Nokia as my next Android one phone .
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I thought about a nokia too but actually there's only one device that can be unlocked without a signature (key) binary and that's the nokia x6 (6.1 plus/sd630). Not sure about unofficial ways but nokia closed the doors via august OTA. Also it has a notch.
Miui 10 got update with new camera APIs which is gonna be there for all. It is available in China now. I am sure Mi A2 will also get it in coming updates... Then we can enjoy the camera of This phone properly... Please correct if this news is wrong.
MIUI and Google One do not have anything in common, so I can not connect your expectation as relevant.
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Right, well I don't know what your situation is with modding your Mi A2, but I discovered that after you've unlocked the bootloader & installed Magisk Root that if the flash this "MiUi Camera All Features" Magisk Module from another thread, this enables The Full level 3 Camera 2 API:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/themes/miui-camara-features-magisk-t3841269
This is a fantastic upgrade over the stock MiA2 camera app in itself. Xiaomi basically gimped the camera's features, as to not upstage much more expensive Xiaomi phones and this releases them such as 4k30p front video recording and enhanced HDR Pro Modes which work brilliantly.
However, the upshot of flashing this enabling Camera 2 is amazing for this reason. Just today I've been testing @Arnova8G2 's port of the Pixel 3 app and the HDR+ Enhanced is next level stuff. Portrait mode, front & back ,is also working fine. RAW file capture is also working. Gonna test out Nightsight tonight. You get a green screen through the viewfinder, but the shots do actually work. Only thing not working for me is slow mo....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78054159&postcount=2
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MIUI and Google One do not have anything in common, so I can not connect your expectation as relevant.
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Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie. It is not present in the current beta but it might be later.
Catsonvi said:
Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie. It is not present in the current beta but it might be later.
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If you're referring to the 'Camera 2 API Will be enabled in android Pie CONFIRMED' thread, then the following is exactly what was said:
"Starting with Android Pie, newly launching devices are expected to have newer camera HAL versions, which will enable better support for camera2."
Does that include the A2? Because it's not a "newly launching device". And the statement implies, imho, it will be newly launching devices that launch with Pie.
That's not the A2. I wish they would enable it. but that statement above is a reach to believe "Google said that the camera2api is coming with Android Pie". they said newly launching, not upgraded to.
If Xiaomi giving camera 2 API in miui 10 update to its all phone then there is no reason that Xiaomi will not give it to mi A2. I am pretty confident that with the demand and competition Xiaomi will provide this feature to this device shortly.
Don't create a thread affirming something that you have no proof of.
Google is expanding their camera development, and that is the one of the main parts and improvements of PIE it self, to support multi cameras for example, you can read all about that on the official Android PIE page, but that doesn't mean nothing for us, unfortunately.
"Multi-camera support and camera updates
On devices running Android 9, you can access streams simultaneously from two or more physical cameras. On devices with either dual-front or dual-back cameras, you can create innovative features not possible with just a single camera, such as seamless zoom, bokeh, and stereo vision. The API also lets you call a logical or fused camera stream that automatically switches between two or more cameras.
Other improvements in camera include additional Session parameters that help to reduce delays during initial capture, and surface sharing that lets camera clients handle various use cases without the need to stop and start camera streaming. We've also added APIs for display-based flash support and access to OIS timestamps for app-level image stabilization and special effects.
In Android 9 the multi-camera API supports monochrome cameras for devices with FULL or LIMITED capability. Monochrome output is achieved via the YUV_420_888 format with Y as grayscale, U (Cb) as 128, and V (Cr) as 128.
Android 9 also enables support for external USB/UVC cameras on supported devices."
https://developer.android.com/about/versions/pie/android-9.0
Technicalyog said:
If Xiaomi giving camera 2 API in miui 10 update to its all phone then there is no reason that Xiaomi will not give it to mi A2. I am pretty confident that with the demand and competition Xiaomi will provide this feature to this device shortly.
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I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
Guys, by my post I am not affirming anything. I read some news about camera 2 API being enabled by Xiaomi for all its phones by miui 10 update and that has already been released for China.. so I am just trying to say that the probability of getting camera 2 API for this phone are very high now. In android pie or in coming updates we could get it. So no affirmative post but high probability post. Thanks
Ritik99 said:
I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
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at least you guys have 4.9 kernel and stable custom roms
Ritik99 said:
I have Mi A1, they haven't even provided the new camera app of MIUI 10, you are expecting too much, otherwise disappointment is sure.
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Mi A1's cameras are a disgrace tho, reason why I waited and got Mi A2.
OP : " I am not affirming anything"
also OP : "API2 will be available for mi a2"
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If the title is so annoying for some guys, moderator please change the title... Sorry guys
hugopg said:
Don't create a thread affirming something that you have no proof of.
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He's right. I saw the thread too in mi community. If Xiaomi enables c2api to Miui devices there's no doubt that they won't enable it to Mi a2
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If the title is so annoying for some guys, moderator please change the title... Sorry guys
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The mods won't bother to change something you can change yourself.
Bring up the original thread, click edit, then click 'Advanced'.
It will then allow you to change the title.
I switched to a9 2018 recently from mi a1. And this phone does not have separate forums or threads and community?. I was able to use google camera on my mi a1 and it was great and in this device i tried too many gcam mods but not even a single google cam port works.
Can someone please port gcam to a9,a7 2018 sereies.
This phone has snapdragon processor so gcam port is possible. ?
Sorry for bad english :silly:
Akhilesh_72 said:
I switched to a9 2018 recently from mi a1. And this phone does not have separate forums or threads and community?. I was able to use google camera on my mi a1 and it was great and in this device i tried too many gcam mods but not even a single google cam port works.
Can someone please port gcam to a9,a7 2018 sereies.
This phone has snapdragon processor so gcam port is possible. ?
Sorry for bad english :silly:
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++1111
Its Working But not also??
Akhilesh_72 said:
I switched to a9 2018 recently from mi a1. And this phone does not have separate forums or threads and community. I was able to use google camera on my mi a1 and it was great and in this device i tried too many gcam mods but not even a single google cam port works.
Can someone please port gcam to a9,a7 2018 sereies.
This phone has snapdragon processor so gcam port is possible.
Sorry for bad english :silly:
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Its working on
Google Camera 4.1.006.135988111 version or lower, its disappointing we cannot use latest feature on samsung galaxy a9, m also confused why samsung didn't enable camera 2 api, were like new company xioami is enabling on there phone, like poco f1...one more thing, samsung should give pro and night mode on this phone also, becoz this phone is special for camera ( Quad camera ), If samsung can't give this feature on this phone then its not worth.
ChiranjitMaji said:
Its working on
Google Camera 4.1.006.135988111 version or lower, its disappointing we cannot use latest feature on samsung galaxy a9, m also confused why samsung didn't enable camera 2 api, were like new company xioami is enabling on there phone, like poco f1...one more thing, samsung should give pro and night mode on this phone also, becoz this phone is special for camera ( Quad camera ), If samsung can't give this feature on this phone then its not worth.
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open camera?
GCam 7 for Samsung A9 2018
hello pls can you help me. I recently got a Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 updated with android 10 from work. I want to root it just so that I can use Google camera but in 2 years be able to unroot it to give back to office. What exactly do I need to do to (1) backup current stock firmware and (2) get GCam 7.3 working on a Samsung A9?
My device(SM-A920F) have been root and I enable the camera 2 API,but I still can't use the gcam when I open it, it's black screen then crash.
How to do to let Google camera attached the lens?
benson3321021 said:
My device(SM-A920F) have been root and I enable the camera 2 API,but I still can't use the gcam when I open it, it's black screen then crash.
How to do to let Google camera attached the lens?
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Hello, you were able to use the gcam, the same thing happened to me, I rooted it yesterday and today I was looking for versions to install and I can't find anything. (has camera 2 api activated)
benson3321021 said:
My device(SM-A920F) have been root and I enable the camera 2 API,but I still can't use the gcam when I open it, it's black screen then crash.
How to do to let Google camera attached the lens?
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Hello, you found a solution, the same thing happens to me in all the versions that I have installed.