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There is a comparison video of the X10, Desire, and Galaxy S posted on techblog.gr.
http://techblog.gr/techtv/samsung-galaxy-s-vs-htc-desire-vs-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-super-amoled-vs-amoled-vs-lcd-6854/
It really shows that the X10's screen is nothing to scoff at. Under normal viewing, it is not as vibrant or saturated at the others. However, the image quality is still there.
Under sunlight is where it really shines. My opinion is that it has the best sunlight visibility of the three.
In my opinion, the 2 others are way too colorsaturated.... Reminds me of when i saw TV at my grandparents. So much color, that the characters are almost glowing...
nkolsen said:
In my opinion, the 2 others are way too colorsaturated.... Reminds me of when i saw TV at my grandparents. So much color, that the characters are almost glowing...
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yes you are right seems like old tv with their strange colors .x10 also it is still limited to 65k colors ,its colors are real ,and after the update it will be much more better as the full 16 million colors,will be enabled ,so it is unfair to compare them now with 2.1 devices
I like the Galaxy S super AMOLED, but Desire's screen is so much less than everyone expected. So, Galaxy is a clear winner, and I'd have to place the X10 second.
Waiting to see what the situation will be after the UXP update...
The best screen is the Galaxy S, is significantly higher, although the X10 is not in the wrong place
The Galaxy S does indeed produce vibrant colors and deep blacks. It also increases sunlight visibility. I just don't like that these OLED screens trends to over saturate colors.
If you look at the video demo. The football players have glowing skintones. The drawback of the lcd screen is that it looks washed out at maximum brightness.
Just today I was admiring how easy it was to see the X10's screen in bright direct sunlight. I have never had a phone do that. Mind you, you can see the flicker of the screen when the sun is on it. Kinda weird looking....
I'm super happy with X10 display.
I watched a movie outside without problems.
Super AMOLED is probably better ... at least in terms of power consumption ...
Same for me, in the sun, I can see everything perfectly. They say SuperAMOLED uses 20% less battery than LCD though, which the X10 could really use haha..
Guys the x10 is perfect just think about somthing..... these Amoled and SuperAmoled screens have a big problem "Burn In" there is quite a few people complaining that their N1 have it after a month or so. And these displays tend to have a lot shorter life than Lcd's and i feel like the colors that they show are not right at all. Just think about it. Hmm chris is Bulgarian .. small world. Chris are you from Toronto by any chance maybe i know you lol.
Windsor, but I have a couple friends in Toronto lol..
I'm sure many of you have migrated from the S2 to the Note,
How would compare just the display? Any differences in quality and performance?
Note's display would not disapoint a S2 owner in any way. It's a big improvement.
even though it uses pentile matrix?
Please see my post here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19046893
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even though it uses pentile matrix?
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pentile it is noticeable but a very short range and looking for it, the screen its better than the S2 one. Crisp text, more resolution, more info on screen.
I have both, the screen is much better in the note. Text is much clearer both zoomed out, and zoomed in
The note looks better.....and its huge!
Its often with very small text i notice the pentile. And with strange mix of colors it can look very strange. Think it was some red/pinkish text on a brown background that just looked bizzare when it was small.
So when im browsing the web i think its quite noticeable.
Other then that, in movies, games, pictures and the android interface i dont notice it.
Its like the s2 panel but bigger and more high res.
But... of course i wish they would have made it a real rgb panel. Because it is in fact noticeable sometimes. But its not a big enough reason to not get the Note
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But... of course i wish they would have made it a real rgb panel. Because it is in fact noticeable sometimes. But its not a big enough reason to not get the Note
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It will be a big enough reason to upgrade to Note 2 when it comes out though.
but the RGB is a fail on the S2, just read the number of problems users are reporting; only fix samsung can give in this case are firmware updates.
I get ALOT more color banding with the Note vs. my S2. To the point of having to be careful what backgrounds I use..
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but the RGB is a fail on the S2, just read the number of problems users are reporting; only fix samsung can give in this case are firmware updates.
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Not sure what people were complaining about the SGS2 display; I've had no problems whatsoever with mine, and I bought it about 1month after it started shipping.
Anyways, compared to the SGS2, the Note's display has:
1. More obvious colour banding... but that's probably because it's a larger screen and the banding is due to Android 2.x limitations as the same banding is there on the SGS2.
2. A moire pattern visible when viewing a uniform grey colour background (ie. the notifications dropdown).
3. Sharper (obviously, due to higher resolution)
4. Less vibrant.
note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!
newszq said:
note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!
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every review so far said the screen was very good and certainly not "fuzzy" maybe your friend was talking about pentile technology in general which doesn't have a great reputation, but i've never had a problem with it on high resolution devices.
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note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!
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Pretty much all the reviews of this product praise the screen unconditionally. The only review I read that even noticed it was PenTile was this one from AnandTech.
If the pixel density was much lower, you'd probably see undesirable things like this, but the consensus seems to be that the pixel density is so high that it doesn't really matter. Engadget in particular loves to slam PenTile screens but didn't even mention it this time.
I am a pentile fanatic. I absolutely hate pentile. The text is gorgeous though. Especially at normal tablet viewing distance. If you put the tablet 4 inches from your face, you can easily tell it is pentile for solid colors like green in the battery indicator. It's actually harder for me to tell with the black or white text than bold solid colored areas. But normal viewing distance everything pretty much blends like the Galaxy S 4. My biggest complaint is the yellow seems kind of off compared to my original Note 10.1 but that might just be personal preference.
Ironically I think I can easily live with and very much enjoy using this screen but the physical hardware buttons is annoying the crap out of me. It's going to be a while before I'm used to it.
If the next Note is full RGB again I'll jump back out of principle probably but this screen is far better than what I thought it would be.
Hope that helps.
That is a dangerous word, leave out the 't' and you are in a whole different ballpark. lol
Seriously though, mine looks great, no fuzziness at all.
I've been doing a bit of research about these different types of displays. After using a couple of IPS displays and comparing them side-by-side to AMOLED displays, I'm beginning to have a different perspective. IPS just looks stunning. Not to say AMOLED looks bad or anything, but in the past I was more inclined towards AMOLED. As someone who has experienced burn-ins with previous AMOLED displays, I can say that it really does suck.
IPS displays are generally better for outdoor viewing, are brighter (usually), have better viewing angles, more realistic colors and don't burn in. On the other hand, AMOLED displays have colors that "pop", have very deep blacks, and don't require a backlight.
Hell, go to your local carrier store/Target/Best Buy/whatever sells electronics and take a look at the Samsung phones like the S5 and phones with IPS displays. Every AMOLED display I saw in stores had a tremendous burn-in. I wish I could have taken pictures but I didn't have my phone with me at the time. Granted, the phones on display are turned on all day and are usually stuck on one image as long as they are display phones which leads to the rapid burn ins. But the fact still stands.
As you guys know, the Nexus 6 is going to have an AMOLED display. Now, this isn't real research or anything but there is something that I have noticed when I look over all of the hands on pictures from sites like TheVerge, TechCrunch, etc. The Nexus 6's display isn't the brightest dip=splay out there. Actually, it looks pretty dim. Of course there aren't real reviews yet but this is just speculation on my part.
What do you guys think? Are the trade-offs worth it? For those that do own phones with AMOLED displays, have you had burn in on your screen? How long do you guys think the Nexus 6 can last before it potentially burns in?
My sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DChnGXLErrI
http://www.androidauthority.com/amoled-vs-lcd-282084/
Amoled
I personally like OLED, but mostly for the contrast. My question though is if the Nexus 6 will have a Pentile or RGB subpixel layout. I hate Pentile. Also, brightness is not the biggest factor in sinlight readability, its reflectivity that matters. Many OLED screens have low reflectivity, so the sun isnt bouning into your eyes and making the display look dim. And i have heard that higher pixel densities burn in less, but that is not something i have seen proof of.
Amoled if its same tech like on the Note 4 (same generation) IPS if it was high quality one like on the iPhone 6.
I prefer IPS LCD because I've tried my fair share of Samsung AMOLED devices and all of them have greenish-yellow tints and grainy colors. Not to even mention the pathetic brightness levels.
I would've preferred a well calibrated 1080p IPS LCD. It'd easily look as sharp as the 1440p Pentile AMOLED, while at the same time improving battery life and GPU performance.
Amoled for me. I really like the colors and viewing angles of it. Not to mention the low power emission and active display compability. No lightbleeding issues,too.
After using an IPS display for ages now with my N4 I would love to use an AMOLED display where colours did not seem so washed out and true blacks can be had (which since darker colours are easier on my eyes I prefer it).
The only worry I have is Burn In, but if I have heard correctly a lot of Burn In issues have been resolved with later devices. I really hope this is true.
I prefer Amoled as the ips tech I dealt with had issues with light bleed & other weird anomalies
Ips is way better.
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Yes, the only reason I'd pass is the fact that it's an OLED display. I always get burn in, I told myself never again but I will be buying the N6.
It depends of the display's generation and calibration.
If it's on par with the AMOLED screen of the Note 4, I prefer AMOLED screen.
But an IPS Display as good as the one used in the iPhone 6 plus is better than every older AMOLED screen.
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It depends of the display's generation and calibration.
If it's on par with the AMOLED screen of the Note 4, I prefer AMOLED screen.
But an IPS Display as good as the one used in the iPhone 6 plus is better than every older AMOLED screen.
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nexus 6 is amoled and the note 4 is super amoled..huge difference
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nexus 6 is amoled and the note 4 is super amoled..huge difference
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I don't know if other manufacturers have the right to use the terms "Super AMOLED" or if it's patented by Samsung.
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I don't know if other manufacturers have the right to use the terms "Super AMOLED" or if it's patented by Samsung.
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i think if u compare the note 4's screen with the s5 you will see the difference
I definitely prefer IPS, but I've really been wanting that Ambient Display. Can't have both, so to me the best compromise is AMOLED, paired with an LCD wearable. I'll have that with my N6 and 360.
Great topic, especially considering the screen is what we all look at every single time we use our phone. This is definitely a "preference" thing.
I've had a few phones (both newer and older display techs) and I know for myself, a photography enthusiast, I prefer color correctness and white whites over "true blacks" ON MY PHONE. I watch my Panasonic Plasma TV for true blacks (and even those aren't 100% true).
AMOLED's (pre GS5 & Note4 and I've yet to view either) burn-in and have image retention and their whites are beyond horrible. Of course most wouldn't even notice this until they put their phone right next to a IPS LCD. You can always "get used to" or "learn to like" the screen your viewing. Until you put it next to something else. Even then a lot of us will believe the one we have is the best. All comes back to personal preference
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i think if u compare the note 4's screen with the s5 you will see the difference
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I think both are marketed as "Super AMOLED" no ? (But I know that the screen of the Note 4 is better)
But that's not my point. My point is that even if Google comes with the same screen as the Galaxy Note 4, I'm not sure that they can use the terms "Super AMOLED" (exactly like you can't use the term "Retina" if you are not Apple).
What's it look like when the screen burns in? Is that when it leaves like a shadow of something like an app you used in the background no matter what? Because my friends s3 has snap chat burned into the background.
Does this happen with all amoled screens? And if it does will warranty exchange it? Because I use my phone a lot and don't want to risk something like this. I. have lots of friends with the s4 and s5 and none have this issue. The only one who has it is with his really old s3.
I don't really care about true whites and deep black's or whatever. When I had the nexus 5 it looked yellow but with my g2 it's really nice. It doesn't matter though because I don't notice it unless I compare it to another phone. And I really like how the colors look on the Samsung Galaxy s tablet so if Motorola's amoled screen is anything like that I'll love the colors. And I like that theres no back light to cause light bleed like in the nexus 5 and nexus 10 (notorious for it).
But I'm gonna do some research on amoled now and see what I find out. I really hope the newer phones like this especially at this price don't have issues
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abdel12345 said:
What's it look like when the screen burns in? Is that when it leaves like a shadow of something like an app you used in the background no matter what? Because my friends s3 has snap chat burned into the background.
Does this happen with all amoled screens? And if it does will warranty exchange it? Because I use my phone a lot and don't want to risk something like this. I. have lots of friends with the s4 and s5 and none have this issue. The only one who has it is with his really old s3.
I don't really care about true whites and deep black's or whatever. When I had the nexus 5 it looked yellow but with my g2 it's really nice. It doesn't matter though because I don't notice it unless I compare it to another phone. And I really like how the colors look on the Samsung Galaxy s tablet so if Motorola's amoled screen is anything like that I'll love the colors. And I like that theres no back light to cause light bleed like in the nexus 5 and nexus 10 (notorious for it).
But I'm gonna do some research on amoled now and see what I find out. I really hope the newer phones like this especially at this price don't have issues
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It happen only on older phones. Both my S2 and S3 have burn-in issues (keyboard and notification bar are burn-in on both) but my GS4 GPe is fine.
But the Tab S use a recent gen of AMOLED and are very well calibrated. Motorola's smartphones never use the latest AMOLED screens (it seems that Samsung doesn't sell them)
I want black to be black and no light bleed..
Note 4 seems to be an extremly good display that can have really correct colors.
And high brightness... Hope Nexus 6 have just as good display..
my Note 2 have notification bar burn in..
Sorry for my bad english.
Amoled display is the best I ever seen, so glad that on nexus 6 I will finally have it.
True black, the highest view angles, more colors.
By that i mean like, well i am coming from an S5 and the Screen and Picture/Display/Color quality of the S5 looked better in my eyes ...
the full hd of the S5 looked way better than the QHD of the N4 that i have now, and no its not fake it isnt damaged etc.
what bothers me about the N4 screen is how sharp it is, kind of harsh on my eyes to read text off it and not looking like HD..?
has yellow tones on whites.. so i use an app to add blue tint to whiten it abit.. hm..
my main issue is the screen not looking HD enough for me .. is it my eyes that play with me ?
do i need a week or two until i get used to the screen and will that make the screen look more HD for me .. i wonder -_- .
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By that i mean like, well i am coming from an S5 and the Screen and Picture/Display/Color quality of the S5 looked better in my eyes ...
the full hd of the S5 looked way better than the QHD of the N4 that i have now, and no its not fake it isnt damaged etc.
what bothers me about the N4 screen is how sharp it is, kind of harsh on my eyes to read text off it and not looking like HD..?
has yellow tones on whites.. so i use an app to add blue tint to whiten it abit.. hm..
my main issue is the screen not looking HD enough for me .. is it my eyes that play with me ?
do i need a week or two until i get used to the screen and will that make the screen look more HD for me .. i wonder -_- .
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Note 4 had the best display in 2014 and still is one of the best in the market, I don't know how you are noticing otherwise. I had a Galaxy S5 Prime (QHD display) and I prefer the larger display of the Note 4.
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Note 4 had the best display in 2014 and still is one of the best in the market, I don't know how you are noticing otherwise. I had a Galaxy S5 Prime (QHD display) and I prefer the larger display of the Note 4.
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i really think that, i have to get used to the 5.7" .. this phone is a friggin beast, the best phone the fastest phone i have had...
my only one issue is the picture quality density color etc. i need to get used to the QHD of it i believe.. mmh.
and the camera is exceptional, i will try getting used to the huge screen, thanks for the feedback bro ! i think its just my eyes that need to adapt to the screen XD .
Well i kinda had the same experience, i came from a note 3 and noticed a diffrence in how the image was displayed on the screen, things seemed harder to see, not that things were smaller but just harder to see.
in my case i have sensitive eyes and the PWM effect on this screen is what i saw.
N4 has much more agressive PWM so the screen flickers more to conserve power.
In theory you should not be able to see it as it flickers at a rate of 240Hz i believe but still i see it, so in fact you have lesser information reaching your eyes as a solid picture.
After using the device for almost a year now i got used to it, i still see it but it does not bother me that much anymore.