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Nexus One 3G Issues (h/w)

Hi guys.
Please have a look at these reports:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/nexus-one-incurring-3g-problems/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/google-support-forums-rife-with-nexus-one-3g-complaints-is-this/
http://www.erodov.com/forums/nexus-has-one-major-pr-nightmare-coming-up-3g-issue/28857.html
and the source forum thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...c2&hl=en&fid=0bd8ccd4799040c200047c9a22ea5c23
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Is anyone else having spotty 3G coverage where as the same sim is having proper 3G coverage with another device?
Please report back.
Regards.

I haven't noticed any difference here.

mark925 said:
I haven't noticed any difference here.
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Did you compare it with another phone? How many bars of signal?

Mine's getting the same 3G coverage my Cliq was

I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time

TFJ4 said:
I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time
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Thats the thing with smart phones, being on 3G most of time, you don't realize the 3G speeds.

My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming

haha i just checked the map around my house and there is like speckles of 3g all around my house but not directly over where my house would be... i get 3g in random parts of my house and edge upstairs in my room... pretty funny that the map of their reflects my situation so well
i cannot wait to get back to tempe, the whole phoenix metro area is one big purple blotch on the coverage map lol

JHaste said:
My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming
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I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?

Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...

I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!

dsjr2006 said:
I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!
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Did you see the image in the first post? Two phones side by side (both TMob... I am hoping) with one having 3 Bars (3G) and other having 4 bars (EDGE)

KiD0M4N said:
I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?
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not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
KiD0M4N said:
Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...
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DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...

JHaste said:
not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
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Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.

I've been paying close attention to reception since I got my NOne yesterday, and so far it seems to change at exactly the same times my G1 would. Upstairs 3g is strong, downstairs it drops to EDGE - just like my G1.
The only difference I notice is the NOne does it much faster.

I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?

NordicZz said:
Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.
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my point exactly... lol

JHaste said:
not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...
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True that. Still waiting for ma phone to be delivered Hope it is all well...

JoshHart said:
I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?
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Thats another possibility as well.
If you all remember, the 3GS used to 'reflect' the fact that it had dropped out of 3G a lot earlier than the 'iPhone 3G' and that lead ppl to believe that the 3GS has poor 3G reception.
Maybe it is a similar situation here...

Anyone having this problem in the UK?

Anybody noticed slower T-mobile speeds lately?

I am in Metro Detroit and my speed used to be 20-25 at my home , last week its been 14-15 constantly. Does anybody else see the decrease or is it just me because of the new sim card?

moldovanos said:
I am in Metro Detroit and my speed used to be 20-25 at my home , last week its been 14-15 constantly. Does anybody else see the decrease or is it just me because of the new sim card?
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That's still pretty quick. Speed varies on the time of day. If too many people are using the network, it'll get clogged and users will see their speeds lowered. If you're far from the cell tower/antenna your speed will be lower. Having a new sim card simply doesn't affect network speeds.
When I'm at home I don't even get half the speed you get! Because there's this tall apartment building next to my house!
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Well, the reason I asked its because I had Tmobile prepaid for 1.5 months and everyday speedtests at my home constantly showed 20-25mbs, but last few days it has changed

moldovanos said:
Well, the reason I asked its because I had Tmobile prepaid for 1.5 months and everyday speedtests at my home constantly showed 20-25mbs, but last few days it has changed
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I had t-mobile's prepaid before I switched to a contract last year. And speeds are the same whether or not it's on a contract or not. So yeah, like I said perhaps their network is filled with people using it so you will see lower speeds. Also, during peak hours lowers the speed you normally get as well. Orrrr T-Mobile is trolling you. Hmmmm....
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I guess something is going on with their network, perhaps LTE preparation. Look what I get now

Definitely. At work I used to get 18-19Mbps down, now I get 8-9.

Best not to think about it and just use it. No need to stress it out. Lol.
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scream4cheese said:
Best not to think about it and just use it. No need to stress it out. Lol.
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yeah, but 100mbs uploads speed is just mind blowing haha

moldovanos said:
yeah, but 100mbs uploads speed is just mind blowing haha
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Lol. Yeah I agree.
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Yeah, I've also been getting the INSANE upload speeds, but I can only imagine it's a bug.

Ajfink said:
Yeah, I've also been getting the INSANE upload speeds, but I can only imagine it's a bug.
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Ditto
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scream4cheese said:
That's still pretty quick. Speed varies on the time of day. If too many people are using the network, it'll get clogged and users will see their speeds lowered. If you're far from the cell tower/antenna your speed will be lower. Having a new sim card simply doesn't affect network speeds.
When I'm at home I don't even get half the speed you get! Because there's this tall apartment building next to my house!
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****, i barely get fast upload speeds from Comcast at home. Came back from Hong Kong and had 2gb worth of video from concert i saw there...took a while to upload all that onto BOX account...
I get 2 bars at home...9mbps. I dont even get HSPA +15 outside rarely...only say that in Hong Kong 100% of the time.

You're complaining about slow speeds when you're getting well over 10Mbps!!
In downtown Chicago I get 10-19Mbps depending on the time of day. At home (about 25 minutes from downtown Chicago) I get 2-5Mbps

KiNG OMaR said:
You're complaining about slow speeds when you're getting well over 10Mbps!!
In downtown Chicago I get 10-19Mbps depending on the time of day. At home (about 25 minutes from downtown Chicago) I get 2-5Mbps
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lol I am not complaining, I am trying to figure out whats the deal. I am sure the difference I have is not because of congestion. At my home speed differs only 1-3mbs during busy hours compare to lets say 2am. It has been steady 20-25mbs. I literally have been running speedtest every day during last month and a half to see if they gonna throttle me or if I use too much data and just testing out speeds

Heh... And you still complain? I'm in front of a TMO signal tower and it's been getting worse since 3 days ago.
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My network type shows HSPAP, what is it? Why no HSPA+42

moldovanos said:
My network type shows HSPAP, what is it? Why no HSPA+42
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The Testing application (*#*#4636#*#*) will show HSPAP, the phone status in the settings application should show HSPA+:15 or HSPAP:15. HSPAP is HSPA+. The status won't show HSPA+ 42, because the number indicates connection type and not speed.

I feel your pain as well.
That usually my average all the time with this damn phone even in parts of NYC!!
I just dont understand it.
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Heh... And you still complain? I'm in front of a TMO signal tower and it's been getting worse since 3 days ago.
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I've been getting blazing speeds lately. Even in places where my old verizon had no service. It's a given that i need to be outside to get 30+ mbps but i'm happy getting 15 mbps inside a bunch of concrete. The uploads have been pretty good as well.

Definitely slower for me. I used to get 20 down, 15 up, now I get 10 down .12 up on HSPA+. When I go into town and I get LTE though, I get around 30 down 12 up

Sprint Complaints?

I don't see why everyone complains about Sprint I get this all day and I use like 60 gigs a month...
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34 down and 9 up in my house
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I don't see why everyone complains about Sprint I get this all day and I use like 60 gigs a month...View attachment 2449599
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You're one of the lucky ones. I'm INCREDIBLY lucky to even get 1mb. My 3g is pretty much useless and LTE is nowhere to be found.

4g is finally hitting Colorado Springs. I've found it in quite a few places, I've even been picking up signal at my work. Nothing at home yet unfortunately. My best speed has been about 10 Mbps down. Seems they are growing the network pretty fast.
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Like all carriers, it depends on where you live. Here in Dallas-Ft Worth, the service is good for the most parts. Yeah there are some parts of the metroplex where service can get spotty but for the most part, no complaints. That said, i'm done after the last 6 months of my contract. Going to a GSM carrier since i switch phones so much. My wife and son will remain on Sprint.

I went to Sprint from Verizon 2 yrs. ago for the price. (Before VZW had their family share plans). The data was painfully slow where I live in central NC. 4g lte is non existent and 3g will hardly load a web page. There are cities around me that have fairly good data speeds but for the most part, it's frustratingly slow. I went back to VZW this year and it is so nice to have fast data and a reliable signal wherever I go. As with everything, it all depends on the individual circumstances. Sprint gets bashed because they deserve it in most of those cases.

stonesaber said:
I went to Sprint from Verizon 2 yrs. ago for the price. (Before VZW had their family share plans). The data was painfully slow where I live in central NC. 4g lte is non existent and 3g will hardly load a web page. There are cities around me that have fairly good data speeds but for the most part, it's frustratingly slow. I went back to VZW this year and it is so nice to have fast data and a reliable signal wherever I go. As with everything, it all depends on the individual circumstances. Sprint gets bashed because they deserve it in most of those cases.
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Yeah, they've made good improvements to your east in Raleigh. It was very hit or miss earlier, but now things are much improved with their network. Going around the mountains are the only place where I've been without reliable signal, but that's to be expected (even a Verizon phone had no signal there). Definitely interested to see, though, if Roam Control will work for the Moto X on 3G.
If only Sprint would go ahead and release KitKat, though. But that's a whole other story...

Right on queue, here comes KitKat. My wife likes her X, and we used to be on the 3g slow boat. LTE is amazing though... Sprint is really stepping up their game lately.
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Damn I'm in Kansas and still haven't got the update notification
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roguejam said:
Yeah, they've made good improvements to your east in Raleigh. It was very hit or miss earlier, but now things are much improved with their network. Going around the mountains are the only place where I've been without reliable signal, but that's to be expected (even a Verizon phone had no signal there). Definitely interested to see, though, if Roam Control will work for the Moto X on 3G.
If only Sprint would go ahead and release KitKat, though. But that's a whole other story...
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Winston Salem coverage pretty much sucks. I would've pulled my hair out without roam control.

Roam control is not working for me. How did you get it to work?
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LTE is nowhere to be found in Queens, NY and there are a lot of dead spots on Long Island as well. My phone has become useless on vacation in ny. My friend on tmobile has been on LTE the whole time. 3G is basically 1x rebranded

Sprint makes me sad and the fact they may very well buy T Mobile makes me want to cry.

great 4G around Miami except for, irritatingly, the airport. Of course, waiting for a plane to depart is the time I'd most like to stream Netflix, MLB At-bat, Hulu etc.

Any luck with roam control
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T-Mobile bad reception and network speeds, anyone else post here

I just received 2 of my Note 4's yesterday for my family plan. Both of us can confirm spotty service and slow download speeds to the point that many apps were saying check your internet connection. I was using the Note 3 in the exact same locations yesterday and had no issues. Anyone else noticing this? Maybe a software update is needed
I have not received (and will not now that it's rooted) the new Samsung update and I don't believe T-Mobile has rolled anything out yet. The phone is spectacular though.....it sounds crazy but I can actually see a difference in the Note 4 and Note 3 screens. The 4 is easier on my eyes. Sorry to get off topic!

The first few hours I was experiencing slow download speed from the Playstore so I decided to download everything via wifi left it there charging came back did a few test and it seems back to normal speed.
About the screen is not much of a difference in my opinion but there is a difference especially when reading online.

bam099 said:
I just received 2 of my Note 4's yesterday for my family plan. Both of us can confirm spotty service and slow download speeds to the point that many apps were saying check your internet connection. I was using the Note 3 in the exact same locations yesterday and had no issues. Anyone else noticing this? Maybe a software update is needed?
I have not received (and will not now that it's rooted) the new Samsung update and I don't believe T-Mobile has rolled anything out yet. The phone is spectacular though.....it sounds crazy but I can actually see a difference in the Note 4 and Note 3 screens. The 4 is easier on my eyes. Sorry to get off topic!
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I am also having slow speeds I have pretty much done everything I have talked to tmobile I have switched out sim cards I have reset the phone I also have reset the apns, what I have realized is that it works well in 4g and not to well in 4g lte

bam099 said:
I just received 2 of my Note 4's yesterday for my family plan. Both of us can confirm spotty service and slow download speeds to the point that many apps were saying check your internet connection. I was using the Note 3 in the exact same locations yesterday and had no issues. Anyone else noticing this? Maybe a software update is needed?
I have not received (and will not now that it's rooted) the new Samsung update and I don't believe T-Mobile has rolled anything out yet. The phone is spectacular though.....it sounds crazy but I can actually see a difference in the Note 4 and Note 3 screens. The 4 is easier on my eyes. Sorry to get off topic!
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You sure you didn't get throttled?
NOTE 4

I have experienced some slow speeds also and lag as well.

atlprettygirl2145 I'm having the exact same issue as u described. 4g works just fine but 4g lte is a no go. I'm also located in Atlanta.

BACARDILIMON said:
You sure you didn't get throttled?
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Definitely not throttled.....it's the phone. I also noticed the lag but i was hoping it was just me. It's good that we are all noticing because that means they need a fix but it's bad becsuse, well, they really need a fix.

bam099 said:
Definitely not throttled.....it's the phone. I also noticed the lag but i was hoping it was just me. It's good that we are all noticing because that means they need a fix but it's bad becsuse, well, they really need a fix.
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Picking mine up tomorrow at 9 will report back
NOTE 4

I'm opposite from you guys. My new note 4 has better reception and faster internet than my note 3.

Oh man, hope it's not the case with my note 4. My s5 gets the best reception I've had with any phone but I want a bigger screen. Should find out tomorrow.

Someone said there was an update already out for the new note 4. I saw it a couple threads back

I am crossing my fingers for all of you guys!

First 4-5 hours after setting up while it was syncing, d/l everything, configuring the new sim, etc, the whole works was a bit slow, but the 2nd day, it's been much better than my note 3. I'm happy so far.

Getting better Wifi and LTE speeds then my S5 and OnePlus One. Getting better SD card trasfer speeds too.

Are you guys using the new micro sim card that came with the phone

I am. Figured they included it for a reason. I probably don't know any better.

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Are you guys using the new micro sim card that came with the phone
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Yes I am using the new sim card
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atlprettygirl2145 I'm having the exact same issue as u described. 4g works just fine but 4g lte is a no go. I'm also located in Atlanta.
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Hopefully it is just an issue with the towers in the Atlanta area then, I was being hopeful of that but I had the note 3 previous to the note 4 and it didn't have these issues
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Someone said there was an update already out for the new note 4. I saw it a couple threads back
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The update is for international versions, I read that on one of these forums
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Home WiFi AC @5ghz is consistent with my prior speeds with the note3.
4G LTE speeds also consistent with my area coverage. Fastest 2 were done outdoors while the other 2 were done indoors.
Apparently no problems here with WiFi and LTE. I'm using the new sim card that came in the box and did nothing with apn settings.
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I'm getting better signal, but very slow data speeds! Worst than my non-lte s3.

I can also confirm that Atlanta is having serious lte issues. I drove for 10 miles without lte in areas that just days ago were were blazing with lte. Talked to tmobile, and it seems like it got significantly worse. Looks like magenta may be regressing.

T-Mobile 6T keeps losing network connection

Is anyone else having an issue with their network connection? There are random times where I open the phone and I can't get anywhere. Apps just spin and time out saying no network connection. Although, the status bar still shows 4G LTE.
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I have an unlocked 6T, using it on T-Mobile, and I was getting lots of data connection dropouts, not exactly how you described, but I would go from all bars to zero bars, then it would reconnect after 5 seconds or so. It's seemed to get quite a bit better since I turned off WiFi scanning for location purposes even when wifi is off. Can't say yet that it's fixed but it's been all good for hours now. Good luck with your issue!

I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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ledvedder said:
I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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Same boat here, I love this phone and want to keep it. Seems to be better but fingers crossed. I had a V30 as well
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As soon as Oreo hit the V30, I actually had network issues there too, kind of like what you described for your 6T. seem to get better after a couple of updates for me

Unlocked on T-Mobile and no issues whatsoever

I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs

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I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs
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I'm glad it's not just me.
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ledvedder said:
I'm glad it's not just me.
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Usually with devices this new or doesn't bother me too much. I'm sure we're not the only ones and it'll get fixed sooner or later

This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.

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This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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Thanks for this, this used to drive me nuts on my T-Mobile V30 in Los Angeles, especially once the phone was updated to Oreo for some reason. Now on my OnePlus 6T, I was getting a lot of times where the signal just completely drops out and then reconnects usually within 5 or 10 seconds.

Cruised thru a couple different towns and had no issues with T-Mobile today
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This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.

YrrchSebor said:
So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.
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Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.

ryude said:
Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.
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Ok thanks ? Makes sense

I am experiencing the same issue not only in US but also in other countries.

You can also use signal spy to check with bands you're currently receiving, and it'll give you a good idea of what kind of coverage you're looking at. It'll specify the signal strength, type of band you're currently using, and more. Highly recommended if you want to know what your signal is looking like.