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Moto X Screen burn-in

I bought my Moto X around the end of September and about two weeks after getting it, I had a screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar. I let Motorola know and they happily replaced it. However few weeks after owning the second one I experienced the issue again and I let them know. They told me they were stunned and that I was literally the only person who had reported the issue.
What I am wondering is if anyone else has experienced this. I know it is a common problem with AMOLEDs, but I didn't expect it to happen so soon.
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I have never seen screen burn in on any phone. Not sure I would notice it in the notification and navigation areas since they always display the same things.
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Screen burn in after 2 weeks? On 2 devices? Come on now...
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The galaxy nexus had that issue
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_MetalHead_ said:
Love your avatar BTW. I can quote that entire movie.
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Me to !! Hehe
Sa sens le Rooting icite !!

I saw burn in on a display model at Best Buy. It was the big Motorola M logo that displays at the boot animation. If you looked at a white web page or any solid, but light colored image, you could see the ghostly circle the size of a quarter complete with the swishy M in the middle of the screen. Got them to open a second demo model and boot it up so I could see a clean screen and bring it to their attention. Weird thing to have burned in, too.
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Op did you leave both phones display on for 2weeks straight at 100% brightness? Lol
I have had mine for 2 months, do at least 4 hours sot daily, most of which is on reddit and xda, so nav and status are almost always static... I have zero sign of burn in.
I had it pretty good on my s3, but I blame ingress for that... Being outside playing so much and had it at 100% brightness because that screen was so dark... Even then it took at least 2 months before I saw any burn in and I was playing A LOT!
Can't imagine how you would get burn in on two devices, each in two weeks... Seems like that's a feat that you have to try and do, lol.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Screen burn in after 2 weeks? On 2 devices? Come on now...
Love your avatar BTW. I can quote that entire movie.
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What do you thing the man is making this up? Come on Now!

flacco40 said:
What do you thing the man is making this up? Come on Now!
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I'd be hard pressed to believe this as well... I've had numerous amoled devices and abused the crap out of them and even then, it took months to get any sort it noticeable burn in... If it were one device then I wouldn't second guess it, chalk it up to manufacture defect... But two in a row? I'm curious as to what the op uses his phones for and if he ever turns off the screens... Even store display models take a while to get burn in and they are on 3-4 times as much as a typical power user.
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scottjb said:
I have never seen screen burn in on any phone. Not sure I would notice it in the notification and navigation areas since they always display the same things.
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I'll have to send you a pic of my GNex then, so you can see the perfect "ghost" of a Pandora logo in the middle of the screen from running the display full time in my car dock.
I also remember similar complaints when the GNex first came out, of people claiming they were getting burn-in on the notification bar area, and I thought they were ridiculous at the time. Now, not so much.

It happened to my gnex, so I'm not surprised that it happened on this phone too.
I'm not saying you're faking it, but 2 weeks is a little too soon for it to be happening. The gnex only had the issue after a year or so. Are you keeping the display on all the time when charging or something?

They will eventually burn in if you set the screen to never time out and leave it displaying the same thing for hours or days on end. Most store models have some level of burn it. In normal use cases it should never be an issue though.

aooga said:
It happened to my gnex, so I'm not surprised that it happened on this phone too.
I'm not saying you're faking it, but 2 weeks is a little too soon for it to be happening. The gnex only had the issue after a year or so. Are you keeping the display on all the time when charging or something?
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It happened with my GNex too.

Main reason I can't use another amoled phone
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Just passing by, but 2 weeks is entirely possible.
If you keep using the phone with the notification bar displayed and then two weeks later open a full screen browser, you will most likely notice burn in if you look close enough.
It's extremely easy to do.

I bought an S3 from ebay with real bad screen burn in (that the seller didn't mention). She actually didn't believe me and accused me of scamming her until I replied back with a contact name and number that was burned into the top of the screen from the messaging app (the keyboard was also burned in, I guess she constantly texted this person).
I think burn in is more likely to happen when brightness is higher. I had a GNex and GS3 that never got any sort of burn in but I also rarely had the brightness above 50%.

you know, now that I look, I have it too. It's faint, and I thought it was from the Nova Launcher beta, but ****, this is screen burn in. Damn.
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I don't even use my phone that much. Generally around 1.5 or 2 hours screen time per day. Brightness is about half. Kinda crazy.

Recommend using an app such as:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn&hl=en
to minimize this. Most plasma TV's have something like this built in as they are also prone to burn-in. Use it for 10 minutes every once in a while (even if you don't see burn in) and it should prevent it.

I got screen burn in on my S4 after 2 months. But I also blame ingress for that. I have a X coming and hope to minimize that by not playing ingress so much or play on another device. One thing that I do for the status bar to help out is with nova launcher I have it set to swipe the notification bar on top away. I try to leave it off the screen as much as possible. But yes amoled screens suck for burn in.

I usually turn my phone to the 270 degree position to have the navigation bars switch sides every now and then. That helps a bit.
And with AMOLEDs, it's more important to turn off the screen when not in use rather than let it time out. I have mine set to 10 minutes, but I usually manually turn off the screen because I know AMOLEDs are prone to burn-in over time.

Is outdoor visibility - real issue or no?

Can anyone comment on this topic? Reviews on sites seem to really knock the outdoor visibility with these watches so I just wanted some opinions from some real users. It seems reviews continue to knock these devices but a lot of individual reviews from users on sites seem to praise the device and people just seem real happy with them. What's your guys take on this? I'm going to be picking up the Gear Live but it seems both have this issue.
Also for any Gear users, feel free to chime in about the charging method. That seems to be talked about a lot as well but sometimes you never know with these official review sites. I value actual users opinions more.

tu3218 said:
Can anyone comment on this topic? Reviews on sites seem to really knock the outdoor visibility with these watches so I just wanted some opinions from some real users. It seems reviews continue to knock these devices but a lot of individual reviews from users on sites seem to praise the device and people just seem real happy with them. What's your guys take on this? I'm going to be picking up the Gear Live but it seems both have this issue.
Also for any Gear users, feel free to chime in about the charging method. That seems to be talked about a lot as well but sometimes you never know with these official review sites. I value actual users opinions more.
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All the reviews that state the watch face is hard to see outside are stupid. It's obviously hard to see when the screen is dimmed, but as soon as you tilt your wrist and the screen turn on you can see it perfectly even in the brightest sunlight.

Yeah I figured a lot of them over exaggerate that topic. I mean my phone is hard to see in direct sunlight. These types of screens will always be difficult.
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tu3218 said:
Yeah I figured a lot of them over exaggerate that topic. I mean my phone is hard to see in direct sunlight. These types of screens will always be difficult.
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If your phone is hard to see in sunlight that sucks, my S5 is perfectly bright and easy as hell to see. But my Gear Live definitely is not a problem what so ever in sunlight, I love it.

Joe0113 said:
If your phone is hard to see in sunlight that sucks, my S5 is perfectly bright and easy as hell to see. But my Gear Live definitely is not a problem what so ever in sunlight, I love it.
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It's not bad, but of course it's not the same as if it was cloudy out. There is no phone where the visibility isn't slightly decreased in the direct sun. But we can still see the phone to use most importantly. But regardless, that is good to know about the gear live. I really want this watch. How do you feel about the charger port? Everyone keeps saying wait for the 360, but you know what, its August 1st and no announcement has been made. I'm tired of waiting and want to join in on the fun.

I honestly have no problem wit my S5 in direct bright as hell sunlight... But I love it personally. Got a messaging app for wear and now I barely use my phone for texting haha. Charging is painless IMO, I don't get the big deal people have with it.
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Joe0113 said:
I honestly have no problem wit my S5 in direct bright as hell sunlight... But I love it personally. Got a messaging app for wear and now I barely use my phone for texting haha. Charging is painless IMO, I don't get the big deal people have with it.
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Thanks for the info. Just need my best but to get them in.
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I find performance in the rain to be more of an issue.
While trying to track my rides with Strava the rain often closes the app, swipes away cards and generally plays hell with the watch.
There are a couple of screen lock apps but then you can't actually unlock the screen with wet fingers.

atomkinder said:
I find performance in the rain to be more of an issue.
While trying to track my rides with Strava the rain often closes the app, swipes away cards and generally plays hell with the watch.
There are a couple of screen lock apps but then you can't actually unlock the screen with wet fingers.
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Ah that's an interesting point. I wonder if a screen protector would help at all. thanks for the input btw.
Been checking my best buy and it seems they're all starting to get them in.

tu3218 said:
Ah that's an interesting point. I wonder if a screen protector would help at all. thanks for the input btw.
Been checking my best buy and it seems they're all starting to get them in.
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How would a screen protector help? Water is simply highly conductive so that's why the watch goes all crazy. Only way to avoid it is to keep it dry or at least make sure there is no water connecting the touch screen with your skin

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How would a screen protector help? Water is simply highly conductive so that's why the watch goes all crazy. Only way to avoid it is to keep it dry or at least make sure there is no water connecting the touch screen with your skin
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It was just a suggestion. Some screen protectors actually decrease the sensitivity of the screen. We Dont notice it really but maybe it would help prevent a couple rain drops from messing with the screen. Doesn't matter though lol. Not sure how in the future they can correct this besides your suggestions.
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tu3218 said:
It was just a suggestion. Some screen protectors actually decrease the sensitivity of the screen. We Dont notice it really but maybe it would help prevent a couple rain drops from messing with the screen. Doesn't matter though lol. Not sure how in the future they can correct this besides your suggestions.
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Theres a few phones that are actually designed for you to be able to use underwater. When they recognize water they change the input method from capacitive to pressure I doubt anyone is going to do that on the watch though. And about the screen protectors: If they lower the sensitivity you will run into problems when it's not raining xD

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Theres a few phones that are actually designed for you to be able to use underwater. When they recognize water they change the input method from capacitive to pressure I doubt anyone is going to do that on the watch though. And about the screen protectors: If they lower the sensitivity you will run into problems when it's not raining xD
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Oh wow that's awesome! Maybe that'll eventually be implemented to the same extent how it took awhile for 1080p screens to be used in phones.
My main concern at this point seems to be the charger port.

tu3218 said:
My main concern at this point seems to be the charger port.
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Well that obviously has to be protected by a rubber cap of some sort ^^

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Well that obviously has to be protected by a rubber cap of some sort ^^
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huh? I'm talking about how the piece is known to break easily. Not sure if that is just poorly made equipment or just made well for aggressive people lol

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huh? I'm talking about how the piece is known to break easily. Not sure if that is just poorly made equipment or just made well for aggressive people lol
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Who manages to break his charging port?? Haha I have never known anyone, but well if that's an issue xD

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Who manages to break his charging port?? Haha I have never known anyone, but well if that's an issue xD
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Well clearly you haven't read any reviews on the gear live then lol Cause its posted in like every review. Talking about the flimsy plastic piece that mounts onto the watch.

tu3218 said:
Well clearly you haven't read any reviews on the gear live then lol
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lol you're right I haven't. Glad I have the G watch

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lol you're right I haven't. Glad I have the G watch
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I thought about the G watch but absolute no best buy has that in stock. So sense they're basically the same watch, I'll just opt in for the cheaper one. Plus at night when my watch is displaying the time, I just want the time to light up. Don't like the idea that the whole screen still lights up. But I still want to try the G watch. Maybe they'll get them in at some point.

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I thought about the G watch but absolute no best buy has that in stock. So sense they're basically the same watch, I'll just opt in for the cheaper one. Plus at night when my watch is displaying the time, I just want the time to light up. Don't like the idea that the whole screen still lights up. But I still want to try the G watch. Maybe they'll get them in at some point.
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That sucks, my nearby Best Buys all have plenty in stock (last I looked a few days ago). Why not just order one from the website? The only real reason I went with the G Watch is because of the magnetic charger...much, much better than the Live's. I do wish it had an OLED display though. But this is just supposed to hold me over to the moto360, provided it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

NEXUS Burn-in/ Battery

So as I was reading online, someone has already got a Burn in issue where the navigation bar is after a week use. Do you think it's just there phone or did they mess up again with the AMOLED display? Also everyone is getting 3hr SOT with a battery pack of 3450mah which is ridiculous. Do guys have an idea why? Things like these are pushing me away from my order and canceling it.

so cancel it then. just stop creating new threads for the same stuff covered in others

there is always something going on with the 1st batches..they will get fixed later on when they start shipping the 2nd then the 3rd batches..etc

Sounds like someone left the display on max brightness without a timeout, that will cause burn in on any display (IPS included) its just common logic
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AndroManDev said:
So as I was reading online, someone has already got a Burn in issue where the navigation bar is after a week use. Do you think it's just there phone or did they mess up again with the AMOLED display? Also everyone is getting 3hr SOT with a battery pack of 3450mah which is ridiculous. Do guys have an idea why? Things like these are pushing me away from my order and canceling it.
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This isn't nexus 6p related...

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This isn't nexus 6p related...
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It's entirely 6P related.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
Even without the link, the 6P has an AMOLED screen, so I'm not entirely sure how you came to that conclusion...
Anyway, the 6P will experience burn-in. Everyone''s will. It's how AMOLED works, 3 pixels (RGB) with blue wearing out orders of magnitude faster than the other two. The question is how bad it is, and if it will be an issue.

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It's entirely 6P related.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
Even without the link, the 6P has an AMOLED screen, so I'm not entirely sure how you came to that conclusion...
Anyway, the 6P will experience burn-in. Everyone''s will. It's how AMOLED works, 3 pixels (RGB) with blue wearing out orders of magnitude faster than the other two. The question is how bad it is, and if it will be an issue.
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Who has a confirmed siting of BURN IN on the 6P which was JUST delivered today to the first batch of people? Anyone? It has been around weeks ago like the OP stated.

Every other review has shown 5 - 6 hours screen on... 1 review shows 3 and people flip and lid?
Dayum
Either way I have it and it's on target for 5 hours screen on, im happy
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Who has a confirmed siting of BURN IN on the 6P which was JUST delivered today to the first batch of people? Anyone? It has been around weeks ago like the OP stated.
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Did......did you read the link I posted? Ctrl+F "burn in." Also, here. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...v=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=amoled burn in&es_th=1
AMOLED WILL BURN IN. It's an objective fact. Now, it SHOULDN'T burn-in after a week, what Liam experienced was almost definitely "image retention" or "ghosting." It's temporary, and will stop happening after 2-3 weeks or so. After a while though, the blue pixels will wear out and "drift," which will cause burn in. This shouldn't happen until a year or two out, but it will happen. Even then, the level of burn-in shouldn't be noticeable unless looking for it. But the notion that the 6P is impervious to burn-in is just plain wrong.
EDIT: Also yes, ignore the battery readings. Everyone I've seen has hammered it and still got 5+ hours of SOT. That's not a concern.

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Did......did you read the link I posted? Ctrl+F "burn in." Also, here. https://www.google.com/webhp?source...v=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=amoled burn in&es_th=1
AMOLED WILL BURN IN. It's an objective fact. Now, it SHOULDN'T burn-in after a week, what Liam experienced was almost definitely "image retention" or "ghosting." It's temporary, and will stop happening after 2-3 weeks or so. After a while though, the blue pixels will wear out and "drift," which will cause burn in. This shouldn't happen until a year or two out, but it will happen. Even then, the level of burn-in shouldn't be noticeable unless looking for it. But the notion that the 6P is impervious to burn-in is just plain wrong.
EDIT: Also yes, ignore the battery readings. Everyone I've seen has hammered it and still got 5+ hours of SOT. That's not a concern.
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Thank you for replying and not being rude and actually giving me an answer, but after what you said I'm actually excited for my phone, especially for battery. Thank you sir! :laugh::good:

italia0101 said:
Either way I have it and it's on target for 5 hours screen on, im happy
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Same here, achieved 5hrs 20 minutes yesterday before the battery saver came on at 15%. That's after a mix of setup, YouTube, casting, browsing, phoning and plenty of other stuff. I'm impressed!

Dead pixels?

I have had my phone for a couple of days and noticed a green line at the bottom of my screen. When I rotate the phone the line rotates as well. Not sure if that is dead pixels because it rotates with the screen. Any ideas?

Screenshots??

Here you go

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Here you go
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Try formatting the phone and see if it's gone then.

Looks like a battery bar, it's obviously not a pixel ish if it shows up in a screen shot

It does look like a battery bar. I'm betting it's in one of the apps you have downloaded.

Villegasrl said:
I have had my phone for a couple of days and noticed a green line at the bottom of my screen. When I rotate the phone the line rotates as well. Not sure if that is dead pixels because it rotates with the screen. Any ideas?
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Dead pixels don't rotate. :good:

Villegasrl said:
I have had my phone for a couple of days and noticed a green line at the bottom of my screen. When I rotate the phone the line rotates as well. Not sure if that is dead pixels because it rotates with the screen. Any ideas?
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Its a battery bar from one of your apps that you downloaded. Go to the app settings and unchecked the battery bar option.

You guys were right! It was a battery bar and I found the app that was causing it. I feel dumb but thanks a lot for the help!

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It does look like a battery bar. I'm betting it's in one of the apps you have downloaded.
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Good call, mate.

I actually have a dead blue pixel. Didn't notice till I turn the brightness down a bit. Bummer because it's annoying now. I'm returning for another so much for getting the phone early

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I actually have a dead blue pixel. Didn't notice till I turn the brightness down a bit. Bummer because it's annoying now. I'm returning for another so much for getting the phone early
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But you did get it early despite this flaw you found on your device.
You got to hold and experience this beast before millions of others did. That's something you'll always be able to say. So just wait it out for your replacement and try not to get too upset over it. You've already learned first hand what this phone is capable of.

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But you did get it early despite this flaw you found on your device.
You got to hold and experience this beast before millions of others did. That's something you'll always be able to say. So just wait it out for your replacement and try not to get too upset over it. You've already learned first hand what this phone is capable of.
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Yes I did but not upset. Tmo rep said I had a 20 day remorse period. I have a gs6 the gs6 is brighter on low levels. This gs7e is going to be a beast once rooted with custom roms. My only concern is the gear vr and Netflix that I registered for.
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I wish I knew how to do a system dump to help speed up things.

Note 20 Ultra: Dust / Fogging issues in camera lens in some review units

Looks like some people with review units are reporting that their Note 20 Ultra cameras are fogging up, there is moisture in the lens that was not there out of the box. Also some are saying there are dust particles in the camera lens. Hopefully these are isolated issues in review units.
Samsung's response in the attached thumbnail is not very encouraging though.
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Dammit, hopefully i don't run into this. Kind of hard to keep my device from big temperature differences when winters around here can get to -50c in the winter and I certainly don't keep my vehicle anywhere near that...
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LOL Gore vents are supposed to prevent this from happening!

-50C... that's super common. And I bet you'd be whipping your phone out all over the place to take pics and make calls too.

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-50C... that's super common. And I bet you'd be whipping your phone out all over the place to take pics and make calls too.
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Probably for a week a year, and I keep it with me for music while I'm at work and yes, I take pictures for reports on what I've inspected pretty often
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Probably for a week a year, and I keep it with me for music while I'm at work and yes, I take pictures for reports on what I've inspected pretty often
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You must be in a seriously remote part of Canada.
-50 with bare hands/thin gloves for pics must mean a lot of frost bite for you. Tell your company to get you a point and shoot camera rather than risking your $1800+ phone. They're dirt cheap now and you could leave your big mitts on.

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-50C... that's super common. And I bet you'd be whipping your phone out all over the place to take pics and make calls too.
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Probably for a week a year, and I keep it with me for music while I'm at work and yes, I take pictures for reports on what I've inspected pretty often
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You must be in a seriously remote part of Canada.
-50 with bare hands/thin gloves for pics must mean a lot of frost bite for you. Tell your company to get you a point and shoot camera rather than risking your $1800+ phone. They're dirt cheap now and you could leave your big mitts on.
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Lol not that remote, just northern Alberta. But for a week or 2 a year it gets real cold. I need my phone with me anyways, hopefully I don't wreck the phone that they partially pay for lol.
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kkeith said:
Probably for a week a year, and I keep it with me for music while I'm at work and yes, I take pictures for reports on what I've inspected pretty often
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Lol not that remote, just northern Alberta. But for a week or 2 a year it gets real cold. I need my phone with me anyways, hopefully I don't wreck the phone that they partially pay for lol.
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I'm in the Winnipeg area, so I feel ya.
Even with them covering part of the phone I'd be scared.

This honestly does not seem like a big issue at all. Every where there is some freak out about the devices that does not carry on. I live in Japan. It gets absolutely muggy here during the summer. People take a device that is built of metal and glass from a cold, air conditioned environment of 20C with little humidity and then suddenly step outside in temperatures in the 30C's with humidity near 80%, then expect this cooled glass and metal sandwich to ignore the laws of physics?? It has been rainy in Seoul, Korea the past week.
It is good to note any issues that a newly launched phone may have, yet I think people take things to the extreme these days. Every new phone is going to have a specific number of units with failures and defects.

Or they rushed out a product and released it before fully testing

Err that’s one user? Hardly an issue.

Do you think they done something to camera glass due to the incidents that happened with the s20 ultra
I mean they did something related to pressure as some s20U was broken with no reason as if they where under pressure

I saw people comment that this was an issue on older samsungs too when moving from extreme temperatures. Doesn't seem like too big of an issue as long as it returns to normal after the device warms up. This is an issue with camera lenses for real cameras as well.

Over 8k people in the Facebook group I'm in, and not one person has the issue.

Gareee said:
Over 8k people in the Facebook group I'm in, and not one person has the issue.
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Can you post a link to the group?

abax4401 said:
Can you post a link to the group?
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Not sure how from the app, but here's the name

Thanks

Gareee said:
Over 8k people in the Facebook group I'm in, and not one person has the issue.
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That means the issue is not widespread, which is good. Someone on Samsung reddit posted they had this issue in USA I believe.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/idoxdx/check_note_20_ultra_camera_for_dust/

I am in France and bought from Orange unlocked 256gb Exynos Mystic Bronze, and I have dust in the middle camera. Mail sent to Samsung to see what they will do. It wasn't there when I bought it, its the first thing I checked when I got it out of the box.

With the fogging issues in Camera some other issues over there to
I was suspected of some other issues in my Note 20 Ultra the many times 20ffp delay while using a smartpen. usually, I was using my Ipad for designing ULM Diagram For Assignment but this time I was using my new note so I suspected this delay.