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New High Capacity 1530 mah Batteries?

Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
So, is this a "rip off" or are the sellers just lazy and use an "old" image?
Does anyone have any experience with these new high capacity batteries that they can share with this forum?
Thank you,
David

Hmm... well you also see sellers on Ebay flogging adaptors specifically to convert the audio output of the Touch HD to a 3.5mm socket... Puzzled.
My experience with cheap far east batteries for various products is very mixed. I've had some really good ones at silly low prices, yet some others that were no good at all.
Sometimes they omit protection devices from the batteries to save cost, which can make them more prone to blowing up especially if inadvertently overcharged or short-circuited. Omitting this protection can also help make room for larger capacity cells.
Usual phrase applies: "buyer beware".

Personally I would avoid.
I have used a lot of 3rd party batteries before and I would say 95% of them are rubbish especially the ones where they claim higher capacity for the same physical size. I have used larger batteries that comes with its own custom battery cover. Only these types of batteries have lasted longer than the original.
At the end of the day HTC, Nokia, SE, Samsung etc. would want to pack the highest possible capacity for a given space while maintaining safety standards. They know what they're doing... They want to "squeeze" as much as possible to make our devices smaller. Cheap 3rd party manufacturers are not going to have the same clout.

Li Polomer ? Battery from another phone??
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David

I would say it has to be a few months more before any decent extended battery appears in the market.

Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.

johnpatcher said:
Stupid question: Has the Diamond (or the Touch Pro) the same batteries, or at least the same size? I think there will be more battieres for the Diamond right now, as it has been published a few weeks earlier.
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Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery. i have a second HTC OEM Blackstone battery for backup. the ebay posting could also be a typo; 1350 vs. 1530? if i'm going for extra capacity, it will be with a battery that provides at least 25%+ more capacity.

delewin said:
Could the difference in capacity be due to an upgrade in technology? That is moving from a straight Li ion battery to a Li ion polymer battery?
Further to this discussion, are there any other batteries from another make / model phone / PDA that is 100% compatible with the HTC Touch HD AND has a higher capacity than the original 1350 mah?
Thank you,
David
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New technologies tend to be more expensive when they are brought to the market to cover development costs, and it's very rarely, that cheap asian products represent newest technologies, which is not used by the big manufacturing companies ...

Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!

delewin said:
Hi folks,
I am seeing 1530 mah batteries on sale in eBay now. They are supposed to be the same size as the original 1350 mah battery. My problem is that the image used to display the battery is the same as the image used to display the original 1350 mah battery. (Part number: 35H00120-01M)
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Well i think it's an typo. 1530 - 1350. Why not 1600 or something else. 1530mAh is a verry strang capacity for a battery.

HTC MAX 4G T8290 battery
I thought perhaps the 1500mAh battery that comes with the MAX 4G might fit into our Touch HDs. But the MAX is slightly thicker than the HD which may explain a bigger battery..

That Worcell site looks promising.
o2crazy said:
Hi Guys,
If you are looking for good and reputation battery source,
you can proceed to www.worcell.com
They provide high quality batteries, be it normal or high capacity.
I bought an O2 Atom Life battery. It could last me 3 good days with high usage.
Now, I'm still waiting for them to produce the Blackstone battery. I definitely will get
one space battery!
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Thank you 02crazy, that Worcell site looks promising.
I agree. A little patients will be beneficial. I envisage a 1800 mah or 2200 mah extended battery option soon. It will come with a matching back, to allow for the extra thickness of the battery. This would not put me off, as I have used a PDA with a "piggy back" second battery for years. (It would not win a beauty contest, but it lasted for days.)
Regards,
David

cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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But does this mean that the HD uses the same battery as well?

cortez.i said:
Diamond and Touch Pro share the same battery.
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How sure are you about that? Diamond's battery is 900mah and Pro's is 1350nah!

I have ordered a battery for 1530. Obtained in 1500. The manufacturer is unknown, that photo http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WZxn7zATZXWUD2u7VU1dHQ?feat=directlink
Test has not yet succeeded. But at first look, working longer

Ηello! i am thinking to buy this cheap ebay batteries (if they worth it). Does anyone know if they are good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1530mah...372724?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6f0f3cb4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Recharg...ccessories&hash=item3cb6f811c3#ht_2991wt_1138
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Galili-...Accessories&hash=item230b076791#ht_2931wt_950

Any good battery close to stock battery? I want to buy a new one!

Battery HB4F1

What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?

Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.

looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.

darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...

i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.

I bought it today... now just waiting for it....

HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible

Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.

fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them

Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.

someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?

qualtier88 said:
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.

i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!

anyone tested? its capacity is real?

[Q] Nexus 7 Battery replacement

Hi
I would like to know if the battery in nexus 7 ,how long is it built to last before it wears down & refuses to take any more charge.
is Li-polimer battery in nexus 7 worse than Li-ion battries found in other tabs?
does asus provide post warranty changing of batteries in nexus 7? If so what is the approx cost of installing new batteries

firefox07 said:
Hi
I would like to know if the battery in nexus 7 ,how long is it built to last before it wears down & refuses to take any more charge.
is Li-polimer battery in nexus 7 worse than Li-ion battries found in other tabs?
does asus provide post warranty changing of batteries in nexus 7? If so what is the approx cost of installing new batteries
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I can answer some of this.
A li-ion battery should deliver 100% of its capacity for the first year, or 250 charge cycles. Loss of capacity would be expected to start somewhere between 300 - 500 cycles.
There are many factors that go into how long until a battery goes until starting to lose capacity. It's all in this article http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Most people are not charging their battery the best way for maximum life. Most people imagine a battery like a bucket of water and think of charge like filling it. But it's not a 'bucket' it's a chemical reaction.
Everyone should read the article above to learn how to get the maximum use of their device's battery.
Yes you can change the battery fairly easily. There are guides that can be found with a web search.
No, there it's no warranty on your battery.
I can't help you with li-ion vs li-po batteries
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3T battery has 20% less battery capacity [2742mAh instead of 3400mAh]

So I've noticed that my 3T battery has about 20% less battery capacity than advertised.
And I've used an external amperemeter to measure the capacity. I've let the phone turn off und charged it while being off until no current was flowing anymore. Here is a picture of the result:
2742mAh!
The thing is that I have found another person that used the exact same amperemeter and measured the same way. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70254148&postcount=344
His result: 3339mAh which is much closer to the advertised number and would be absolutely acceptable.
So either I'm very unlucky with a bad battery or the batteries have such huge capacity fluctuations.
I've contacted OnePlus, but currently they deny that there is anything wrong with it. They said they'll forward it to their engineering, which basically means they don't care. (If they did they would get ahold of my device and see what's wrong with it)
So I urge more people to measure their phones capacity to see if there is something wrong with it. 20% less capacity is not acceptable in my opinion.
Search for "USB amperemeter" if you want to find the same device or something similar to what I used.

Really??

Lipo voltage is 3,7V
Maybe you need to convert your results to this valtage.

According to Accubattery I'm at around 95% full charge with my brand new OP3T. It should really be 100%.

I use accuBattery and the best read I had on charging was 3,250mAh. But I can see the missing 150mAh being in below 0% battery cause I've found that it still has battery below that (I was able to completely discharge it which was below the android shut off point, with a trick, but I don't recommend doing it).
So ye, I think mine is close to the 3,400 value give or take a tiny bit (at least 3,300).

My battery reads 3211mAh on Accubattery. Not sure how accurate this is though but I guess it's okay since I've charged it to 100% a couple times. Not sure.

Hi I have the same measuring device as you posted and mine records 3087mah from a powered off 0-100% charge.
Using the same device to measure my old worn out nexus5 and the result was very close to the spec capacity, surprisingly little battery capacity lost due to age.
For me I bought the 3T for the increased battery compared to the 3. Batteries wear out over time I paid extra to have more to work with long term.
So while my numbers are better than OP's I'm unhappy too, I may as well saved the £80 and bought the 3000mah 3.
Edit: The Accubattery battery app says I have 94% battery health, I have been running it for a couple of weeks

Let's compare our results.
Wysłane z mojego ONEPLUS A3003 przy użyciu Tapatalka

I also have 94% capacity in accubattery. I am quite sure that this is an inacurate measurement of the app for the 3T, and not some problem with the new battery.

I would not expect software based measurement to be accurate, though it is interesting many of us are seeing 94-95% "health".
The OP and I have used an actual hardware based measuring device, while cheap (couple of bucks on eBay - search for USB doctor) its meant to be relatively accurate and the model pictured apparently comes pre-calibrated from the factory.

Mine says it's 3400mah

the app kernel adiutor tells you your used mah in your battery. for most phones the mah a phone can use from its battery is about 92-95% if its labeled capacity.
Also u should trust your phone's system apps. Tools can always have those problems or calibrations. Use something like CPU-Z to check your phone specs. Your phone knows better than an external tool.

Mine also 3000 mah in CPU-Z.....
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Just check on the internet, it said the CPU-Z is not updated the information, please try another to check it.

Im pretty sure that 5% battery is kept for clock and other stuff that needs battery ( just my oppinion ). Anyway, getting 1,5 days of battery is more than enough for me + the amazing dash charging which does the job pretty well, they could take 50% of the battery, if i'm still getting these results. Also,with nougat, things are getting better and better for me.

if this device sits in between the charger and the phone, use a regular charger instead of the dash charger to see if it makes a difference. Dash charger may be messing with your device.

This kind of worries me as I've come from a 6P which had battery shut downs at 20%+ because of fast degradation, losing 1000mAh in a year. Hope this isn't a side effect of fast charging?

Guys, please don't post those software calculations here, they are not accurate.
Use an external measuring device. Like this https://www.amazon.com/PowerJive-Voltage-Multimeter-chargers-capacity/dp/B013FANC9W
Let the device turn off due to low battery, then charge while the phone is off until current stays at 0.
ludester said:
if this device sits in between the charger and the phone, use a regular charger instead of the dash charger to see if it makes a difference. Dash charger may be messing with your device.
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I did.

cethafralo said:
I would not expect software based measurement to be accurate, though it is interesting many of us are seeing 94-95% "health".
The OP and I have used an actual hardware based measuring device, while cheap (couple of bucks on eBay - search for USB doctor) its meant to be relatively accurate and the model pictured apparently comes pre-calibrated from the factory.
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Just purchased that doctor I'll tell my measurements when this thing arrives.

prellele said:
Just purchased that doctor I'll tell my measurements when this thing arrives.
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Make sure you purchase a device that can measure mAh. I've seen some that apparently only show voltage and current.
Also, update on my battery soon, I've got some interesting news.

Triversity said:
Make sure you purchase a device that can measure mAh. I've seen some that apparently only show voltage and current.
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Good advice. I ordered one looking like yours, so I'll think its fine

Battery capacity lower than expected.

Hi all,
Using AccuBattery and it's telling me the battery is around 4160 mAh (that's from three charges so far). Obviously it should be around 4500 mAh.
Anybody else see this?
Thanks

I've installed the app to test your problem. It detected the correct battery capacity for me. The app tells you that you can adjust the battery capacity, probably because sometimes the reading is wrong.

DadOudidOuda said:
I've installed the app to test your problem. It detected the correct battery capacity for me. The app tells you that you can adjust the battery capacity, probably because sometimes the reading is wrong.
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No, no you misunderstand.
It detects 4510mAh which is correct. Once you've gone through a few charging cycles the app will tell you the actual capacity of your battery under the "Health" tab.

Me too, Accubattery says I have 4220 mA battery. Its around 5% less than original capacity (4510).
I see when battery is full charged, battery down from 100% to 99% quickly. On oneplus 7 pro I had the same problem, battery was "old" and OP7pro lost 5% quickly.
I don´t think it is enough to return the OP8pro, I will buy a new battery in the future when battery is older.

They use battery designed for max 4.4V. Advised capacity is correct if battery charged to designed maximum voltage however there is software limitation and you cannot charge battery over for example 4.275V in 7 pro. Real capacity is approximately 10% lower than advised. You have to understand that Oneplus is Chinese company so you cannot expect any reliable and trustworthy information from them.

Mr Paul said:
Hi all,
Using AccuBattery and it's telling me the battery is around 4160 mAh (that's from three charges so far). Obviously it should be around 4500 mAh.
Anybody else see this?
Thanks
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4042mah on my one... But battery life has been great... It seems the voltage limit thing is the main reason.

4440mAh on mine.

Many reviews in playstore says similar problems on many phones.
Seems this app is not really accurate.

Thanks all

On new Pixel 4 XL I had 3850 mAh according to accubattery and 4100 mAh on LG V50. This measure is quite reliable after long time usage and you gonna see quite similar results like using usb meter. On my 7 pro I had 86% designed capacity and I have bought new battery - still 88% but when I noticed what's written on battery label all happened clear. Please never believe Chinese people even if it is global company they always lying because of they drink lay whit mother's milk and it's strongly correlated whit their totalitarian culture.

I just did 3 charges on my new op 8 pro and i'm getting 4419 mah ... :S

I did around 5 charges and mine is 4084mah, battery life is not great...

It's not accurate lol, don't trust it

Lossyx said:
It's not accurate lol, don't trust it
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how do I get an accurate reading?