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SGS2 and AT&T Questions Thread - I have A lot of questions!!

Howdy,
Full disclosure - I plan to cross post this thread of different Android forums, so don't get irritated with me!
A little back story - I've been an Iphone owner since the beginning and truly love the Apple ecosystem. However, I started to get downright bored with the phone and the restrictions placed upon it. I'm sorry but if you are not "allowed" to even custom change your SMS tone what does that say? Plus....I have an Ipad
Now, I have the Samsung Infuse (AT&T) and I love it. However, I one that likes to have the latest and greatest and am willing to pay the money for it. Also, if I am going to be locked into AT&T for at least 2 years, I want a phone that is future proof. Now, I know the Galaxy S2 is suppose to come out soon, however, I am currently in my 30 day window and may not be able to wait that long. Therefore, my plan is to by the Galaxy S2 while I still keep my Infuse and test them both over the next 30 days.
With that said, I have a couple of questions:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
Thank you all soooooooooooo kindly for helping me. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

angieutc said:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
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You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
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See 2.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
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It should be the same.
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
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I'm not your mother.
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
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Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
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Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.

BarryH_GEG said:
Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
It should be the same.
I'm not your mother.
Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions

Purchased mine from Handtec, and it was shipped right after it was released in the UK. I can't see myself ever buying another AT&T branded & neutered/downgraded subsidized phone ever again.
The phone is simply awesome. In a sense, this is the first time I've felt a device *could* last me longer than the usual 1 year refresh cycle. Reason for this is simply because of its sheer processing power. For instance, I just revised my framework-res.apk file last night to have the browser ALWAYS load the desktop version of websites instead of the dumbed down mobile websites that both Android and Apple devices default to. I can actually do this and live with the performance because unlike other phones, desktop version of websites on the SGSII are no slower than the mobile/wap versions... they are as fast and fluid as viewing them on a notebook computer. And, this is even before the SGSII's hardware is properly supported as I believe the current Gingerbread 2.3.3 OS doesn't fully support dual core quite yet.
The only downfall I see is what I'm experiencing with my 2 buddies (previous IPhone users) that I talked into getting an SGSII. Don't get me wrong, they love the phone and would never see themselves going back to Apple. But, they now have to rely on me to do a lot of the tweaking for them because editing system files, decompiling/editing/compiling apks, flashing with Odin... they simply aren't comfortable with all that yet, especially since Apple handed them everything on a silver platter (to which they blindly accepted everytime). They'll get there, but for the time being, I've been labeled the local Android Guru/Master/Swamy/etc.
Other than those points, I echo Barry's feedback verbatim. And, I do hope your Mom is more attractive than Barry, I can barely stand the sight of him on a good day.

angieutc said:
Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
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I was kidding with 6. It's obviously a personal decision. See if anyone that lives near you or in a city that you travel to will let you play with theirs. I love my phone, it's rock solid, and can't think of anything I'd want instead. But again, that's just a personal opinion.

Returning G4 (810)

The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4

WLMiller54 said:
The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4
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Root and unlock will happen, the leather back I have feels high class (t-mo brown) you can freeze bloat with de-bloater tool (all mine is) I dont use the radio (too many apps to use it, plus some of them have local radio) ota-cant help that... I'll most likely get the Nexus 5 as. Well....while keeping this phone.....you did admit its a great phone!

OP has all fair points. Not mad.. but sorry to see you go.

Laters.

WLMiller54 said:
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
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Looks like you need to buy a phone full price, no carrier BS.
Sorry to see you go, but I completely understand. I have seen things in this forum that US carriers do to that phone and I have no idea WTF they are thinking.
As for root, I have faith.:good:

Sadly, mine's going back as well. As much as I like the phone, there are currently too many things that annoy me. I'm with Verizon, so the missing apps started me out on the wrong foot. Then throw in LG and/or Verizon not honoring the $100 GB of Google Drive storage as promised, and the touchscreen issues. Finally, I got a notice from Verizon and my bill went up $23 instead of dropping a couple bucks which two Best Buy reps assured me it would. I spoke to a Best Buy manager, and they agreed to return the phone a month after I purchased it (as well as cancel the Edge plan).
All in all, it's a great phone but it's not significantly better than my trusty G3 (slightly better CPU, camera, battery etc...) enough to offset the additional expense. I have a bunch of accessories for the G4 that I'm holding onto, so I'll probably pick one up further down the road. I'd opt for the international version for obvious reasons. I assume that the unlocked version will work fine on a CDMA network with the proper set-up.
UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.

Unlocked International won't be a good idea..... As long as Verizon doesn't transition to full LTE and still uses CDMA till 2017, this won't work as voice won't go over GSM...

Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.

I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!

SCPadgeebar said:
Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.
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I agree, I am watching Nexus 5 2015 and the OnePlus Two as well .... If I can get a OP2 invite.
fpsq said:
I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!
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Yep, I am waiting to. I may head back to LG4 if there is an unlock and root option.

I can certainly respect your decision, even if I would not do the same thing. Sorry that you did not get as much out of your G4 as you were expecting that you would, I just hope you can find a phone that fits your needs and you can have more fun with.
BTW - That Nexus 5 2015 does sound pretty promising, if you pick one up be sure to let me know how it is.

im in the same boat, Att H810 have the least number of bands out of all G4 variants, so I can't get data even when I unlock the phone to use in Asia.
But I am already past my 14 days period so fml.

ED2O9 said:
UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.
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Call recorder. This is a must have app for everyone who interacts with any business at all. They're always going to record your call for 'quality assurance', which automatically gives you the right to record it as well (at least in California) without informing them. Always good for CYA situations like this.

Anyone upgrading to the S8+?

Hey everyone,
Just wondering if anyone on here is giving up their N7 for the S8+? Most specs look to be better, with the exception of the S-Pen of course.
Any idea when the N8 will be out? Though they did mention that they will be re-releasing the N7 as refurbs.
Debating about the S8+ at this point.
I love the N7, but who knows when the N8 will be out, so debating...
Called T-Mbile to find out if I still get a refund and they said YES 2 days ago. They said I would get back the downpayment/tax and whatever the monthly charges were up until the day when I called, so it came out to close to 400, but they said it would be in credits to the account, which I am fine with either way. Today I chatted with them online instead of calling, and they advised that the recall was finished and that refunds are no longer being given, but recommended I see a local store, so now I am not sure what to do.

I'll wait for the N8 and I think I heard people say the N8 would be out at the end of the year. Don't quote me on that.
If they are re releasing the N7. As long as it is still a beast of a phone like it was on original release. I will be happy with that. At a cheaper price of course. The pen spoiled me that's for sure
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That is kind of what is holding me back, the lack of the S-Pen, but if you were to ask me how often do I use it, I'd say about 5 times since I got the phone in my hand haha
I like the luxury of having it if I need/want to use it, but do not find myself using it that much unfortunately.

elite-fusion said:
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if anyone on here is giving up their N7 for the S8+? Most specs look to be better, with the exception of the S-Pen of course.
Any idea when the N8 will be out? Though they did mention that they will be re-releasing the N7 as refurbs.
Debating about the S8+ at this point.
I love the N7, but who knows when the N8 will be out, so debating...
Called T-Mbile to find out if I still get a refund and they said YES 2 days ago. They said I would get back the downpayment/tax and whatever the monthly charges were up until the day when I called, so it came out to close to 400, but they said it would be in credits to the account, which I am fine with either way. Today I chatted with them online instead of calling, and they advised that the recall was finished and that refunds are no longer being given, but recommended I see a local store, so now I am not sure what to do.
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They told me I'll get credit for everything I paid so far if I return it. I called an hour ago and I'm still deciding off I should get the s8
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zbms said:
They told me I'll get credit for everything I paid so far if I return it. I called an hour ago and I'm still deciding off I should get the s8
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I will head to the store today to see if I like the s8+ or not. the only thing really holding me back would be the fact that i wont be able to jump to the N8 when it comes out since it will be less than a year or 50% of the phone, so thats really the one and only thing. S8 is technically better in terms of specs I think. It is a bit more narrow but bigger screen, but no s-pen.
Eh, decisions, decisions lol

You'll get your credit, only thing is if you were in Jump on Demand then it gets voided and you have to start a different jump program.
It sucks, I didn't wanna have to get rid of JOD. I'm debating if I want to or not now.
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ThC23 said:
You'll get your credit, only thing is if you were in Jump on Demand then it gets voided and you have to start a different jump program.
It sucks, I didn't wanna have to get rid of JOD. I'm debating if I want to or not now.
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Yep, I was thinking of that too, but I was originally on Jump 2.0 and did not want to switch to JoD. I dont remember the reasoning why I DIDNT want to switch, but i'm fine with J2.0 because I only jump ones a year either way to the next best samsung lol

Note 7 to Galaxy S8+ Jump on Demand
I've been a lurker on XDA until now; I will describe my time with the Note 7 and switch to the (pre-ordered) S8+.
I obtained my Note 7 shortly after it was released a second time. Confident that the batteries were fine despite allegations of a second round of explosions, I decided to keep my device. I downloaded (and pointedly resisted updating) EZ Disabler Pro, and promptly disabled updates as users on this forum warned of upcoming updates that would limit battery life, and functionality. The app and update restrictions have been in place since November 2016; therefore I still possess a Note 7 device which charges to 100% and more or less performs the way it was intended to at the time of release.
I use my S-Pen constantly. Smart Select is a tool I use multiple times, every day, and I will be quite sad to let it go as I upgrade to the Galaxy S8+. However, having a supported device which will receive updates and is not banned on commercial aircraft is worth the trade in until the Note 8 pops in October of this year.
T-Mobile has made the transition difficult. Any time I call about billing issues or service agreements, representatives ask me about the Note 7 and seem to be unable to process requests on my line because of the phone's status as a recalled device. The first time I called into to pre-order the Galaxy S8+ and trade in my Note 7 through Jump on Demand, I was refused. The representative informed me that I would be unable to complete this trade in due to the Note 7's status, and that I must continue through a standard Jump upgrade, which would put me on an Equipment Installment Plan (EIP). I firmly believe in technology leasing due to the financially unfeasible process of owning the latest devices, and was not willing to take the EIP route. Instead, I ended my call with T-Mobile and decided to do some research on the JoD lease.
In my research I found that as a lessee, I do not own my Note 7. The Note 7 belongs to T-Mobile, and they must take it back and continue my program with a new phoneas long as the trade in device meets the physical requirements for return. (My phone is in mint condition) I also found that pre-orders are covered under JoD, and then was confused as to why I was being refused.
After learning this, I called T-Mobile again, in the early morning hours (I'm in EST US) at about 2am. Turns out that standard customer service representative in the US are just lazy and unwilling to do research. My rep was based in the Philippines and while she initially had responses very similar to earlier reps I had spoken to, upon being asked direct questions about my JoD lease, she took the time (spent about 75 mins on the phone with her) to look through documentation, click through menus on her employee terminal and find the option of continuing my JoD lease, and pre-ordering the S8+ through that portal.
TLDR;
If you're being told that you can't continue JoD because you have a Note 7 and would like to trade in for the S8(+), ask direct questions about your lease until the reps stop being bums and actually go through the documentation. IT IS POSSIBLE TO PRE-ORDER THE S8+ ON JoD COMING FROM A NOTE 7. They will take the first opportunity to hand you off to another rep or force you through the method that they are most familiar with. Keep in mind, newer reps may not know anything about JoD since the program has long been unavailable to new customers. Foreign reps in my experience (whether it be for billing issues, accidental charges, line adjustments, etc) seem to care more your situation/satisfaction than the average US rep.
P.S:
Be warned, JoD is no longer available to new or existing customers. If you leave JoD now, it will not be possible to get back on such a lease. JoD lessees are grandfathered to the program.

elite-fusion said:
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if anyone on here is giving up their N7 for the S8+? Most specs look to be better, with the exception of the S-Pen of course.
Any idea when the N8 will be out? Though they did mention that they will be re-releasing the N7 as refurbs.
Debating about the S8+ at this point.
I love the N7, but who knows when the N8 will be out, so debating...
Called T-Mbile to find out if I still get a refund and they said YES 2 days ago. They said I would get back the downpayment/tax and whatever the monthly charges were up until the day when I called, so it came out to close to 400, but they said it would be in credits to the account, which I am fine with either way. Today I chatted with them online instead of calling, and they advised that the recall was finished and that refunds are no longer being given, but recommended I see a local store, so now I am not sure what to do.
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I own my Note 7 outright, paid in full. I have no intentions of getting the S8, I'll wait for the next Note. I do, however, intend to return my Note 7 for a full refund and get the Note 8 without having to pay too much more. I'd love to have somebody at Magenta try to tell me the recall is over. Fact is, it is not! There is no expiration date and they can't invent one!

RaymondPJR said:
I own my Note 7 outright, paid in full. I have no intentions of getting the S8, I'll wait for the next Note. I do, however, intend to return my Note 7 for a full refund and get the Note 8 without having to pay too much more. I'd love to have somebody at Magenta try to tell me the recall is over. Fact is, it is not! There is no expiration date and they can't invent one!
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I recently took the plunge and finally returned my note 7. No T-Mobile stores I went to would accept it saying the recall had expired, smh. I eventually ended up doing the return through Samsung and got a better deal. Phone and 2 cases plus the extra $25 from Samsung netted me back $999. I'll gladly take that in a check than credits from T-Mobile.

89dynasty said:
I recently took the plunge and finally returned my note 7. No T-Mobile stores I went to would accept it saying the recall had expired, smh. I eventually ended up doing the return through Samsung and got a better deal. Phone and 2 cases plus the extra $25 from Samsung netted me back $999. I'll gladly take that in a check than credits from T-Mobile.
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Like the other carriers they were compensated by Samsung for all Note 7's. That's money they intend to keep, Magenta can be scandalous! Since mine is paid in full it won't go down that way when I return mind, I'll make sure if it!

Auvenell said:
I've been a lurker on XDA until now; I will describe my time with the Note 7 and switch to the (pre-ordered) S8+.
I obtained my Note 7 shortly after it was released a second time. Confident that the batteries were fine despite allegations of a second round of explosions, I decided to keep my device. I downloaded (and pointedly resisted updating) EZ Disabler Pro, and promptly disabled updates as users on this forum warned of upcoming updates that would limit battery life, and functionality. The app and update restrictions have been in place since November 2016; therefore I still possess a Note 7 device which charges to 100% and more or less performs the way it was intended to at the time of release.
I use my S-Pen constantly. Smart Select is a tool I use multiple times, every day, and I will be quite sad to let it go as I upgrade to the Galaxy S8+. However, having a supported device which will receive updates and is not banned on commercial aircraft is worth the trade in until the Note 8 pops in October of this year.
T-Mobile has made the transition difficult. Any time I call about billing issues or service agreements, representatives ask me about the Note 7 and seem to be unable to process requests on my line because of the phone's status as a recalled device. The first time I called into to pre-order the Galaxy S8+ and trade in my Note 7 through Jump on Demand, I was refused. The representative informed me that I would be unable to complete this trade in due to the Note 7's status, and that I must continue through a standard Jump upgrade, which would put me on an Equipment Installment Plan (EIP). I firmly believe in technology leasing due to the financially unfeasible process of owning the latest devices, and was not willing to take the EIP route. Instead, I ended my call with T-Mobile and decided to do some research on the JoD lease.
In my research I found that as a lessee, I do not own my Note 7. The Note 7 belongs to T-Mobile, and they must take it back and continue my program with a new phoneas long as the trade in device meets the physical requirements for return. (My phone is in mint condition) I also found that pre-orders are covered under JoD, and then was confused as to why I was being refused.
After learning this, I called T-Mobile again, in the early morning hours (I'm in EST US) at about 2am. Turns out that standard customer service representative in the US are just lazy and unwilling to do research. My rep was based in the Philippines and while she initially had responses very similar to earlier reps I had spoken to, upon being asked direct questions about my JoD lease, she took the time (spent about 75 mins on the phone with her) to look through documentation, click through menus on her employee terminal and find the option of continuing my JoD lease, and pre-ordering the S8+ through that portal.
TLDR;
If you're being told that you can't continue JoD because you have a Note 7 and would like to trade in for the S8(+), ask direct questions about your lease until the reps stop being bums and actually go through the documentation. IT IS POSSIBLE TO PRE-ORDER THE S8+ ON JoD COMING FROM A NOTE 7. They will take the first opportunity to hand you off to another rep or force you through the method that they are most familiar with. Keep in mind, newer reps may not know anything about JoD since the program has long been unavailable to new customers. Foreign reps in my experience (whether it be for billing issues, accidental charges, line adjustments, etc) seem to care more your situation/satisfaction than the average US rep.
P.S:
Be warned, JoD is no longer available to new or existing customers. If you leave JoD now, it will not be possible to get back on such a lease. JoD lessees are grandfathered to the program.
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So are they mailing you something for the Note 7 or are you returning it to the store?
I'm want to get the S8, but I keep getting mixed answer from store and phone reps.
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I've been instructed to return my Note7 at a store within two weeks of receiving my new device. I just got the S8+ some 12-13 hours ago. I have not yet returned the Note7.
I'm currently in possession of both the S8+ and the Note7. They're quite similar actually; I think the upgrade is far more dramatic from the S7 or even the S7 edge.

Auvenell said:
I've been instructed to return my Note7 at a store within two weeks of receiving my new device. I just got the S8+ some 12-13 hours ago. I have not yet returned the Note7.
I'm currently in possession of both the S8+ and the Note7. They're quite similar actually; I think the upgrade is far more dramatic from the S7 or even the S7 edge.
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Thanks for the info, I went to Tmo store and did it there. I kept my JOD so I'll be able to get the Note 8 when it comes out. I'm a happy camper lol. But I went with the regular S8, same screen size as the Note 7, just less bezel.
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elite-fusion said:
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if anyone on here is giving up their N7 for the S8+? Most specs look to be better, with the exception of the S-Pen of course.
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I'm using both phones(N7 & s8+). Let me make it a short and sweet. S8+ is pretty much like the N7. Both phones pretty much has same software and exterior, except s8+ is a bit taller(more screen real estate). You obviously missing out the mighty s-pen from N7. Look at the pic below, the N7 sits almost perfectly inside the s8+'s wallet case. For those whom still has the N7, IMO just keep it and wait until the N8.

PapaWangsta said:
I'm using both phones(N7 & s8+). Let me make it a short and sweet. S8+ is pretty much like the N7. Both phones pretty much has same software and exterior, except s8+ is a bit taller(more screen real estate). You obviously missing out the mighty s-pen from N7. Look at the pic below, the N7 sits almost perfectly inside the s8+'s wallet case. For those whom still has the N7, IMO just keep it and wait until the N8.
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Lol, I would of kept mine but my battery was getting ****tier and my charging port was so loose that by the slightest touch it would come off. It was getting annoying.
But you're right, S8 is pretty much a N7 without the pen. Which I miss lol
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Bestbuy $100 off Verizon Pixel 2

I just came across this deal with Bestbuy. It would lower the month rate for the 128gb version by $4.17 per month. Nothing be done or traded in. Still have the option for up to $300 on a trade in.
https://slickdeals.net/f/10652288-s...-in-for-pixel-2-verizon?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
https://slickdeals.net/?adobeRef=1e...ne-just-black-verizon/6099996.p?skuId=6099996

S8 S8+ and Note 8 are $250 off though.....in Bestbuy

I did this. No problems at all. Happy to get away from an LG G5 and to the Pixel 2.

Thanks for posting this! Think I'll be headed over to best buy today, was going to jump on the Pixel 2 anyway, I'll take the extra $100 break. Wish my Nexus 6 was trade in eligible.

notoriousB said:
Thanks for posting this! Think I'll be headed over to best buy today, was going to jump on the Pixel 2 anyway, I'll take the extra $100 break. Wish my Nexus 6 was trade in eligible.
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according to Google, your phone is worth $70 for trade in (although, $100 off at best buy is better). on swappa, it's going for $135+

Interesting thanks for the info. I'll have to check out swappa!
FYI my local best buy didn't have stock on the Pixel 2. They got 2 in (yes two) and they were sold before they ever hit the floor with no ETA for more. Gave up and went to the Verizon store and they had plenty. Paid more but have a shiny new phone now. They said no trade value for the Nexus 6.

notoriousB said:
Interesting thanks for the info. I'll have to check out swappa!
FYI my local best buy didn't have stock on the Pixel 2. They got 2 in (yes two) and they were sold before they ever hit the floor with no ETA for more. Gave up and went to the Verizon store and they had plenty. Paid more but have a shiny new phone now. They said no trade value for the Nexus 6.
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interesting. wish you did not boot up... folks on the other thread are trying to see if you can unlock the bootloader by leaving the SIM card OUT before the initial boot.
personally, I plan on waiting until black friday/cyber monday to see if the price drops to something more reasonable.

The Verizon person powered the unit up in the store, though I'm not worried about unlocking the bootloader myself. The email app I have to use for work checks for a rooted/unlocked phone and locks me out if I'm using one. Sucks.
I did notice however that when I enabled the developer options in the phone settings there is a switch for "OEM Unlocking" in the developer menu and the switch is available, it's not greyed out. If unlocking didn't factory reset the phone I'd give it a shot but really don't want to set the phone up all over again if by some miracle it were to actually work.
I wanted to wait until black Friday too but my Nexus 6 was getting so laggy I couldn't handle it any more, it had to go. I will say I really love the Pixel 2 so far. Such a nice upgrade from old Shamu.

notoriousB said:
The Verizon person powered the unit up in the store, though I'm not worried about unlocking the bootloader myself. The email app I have to use for work checks for a rooted/unlocked phone and locks me out if I'm using one. Sucks.
I did notice however that when I enabled the developer options in the phone settings there is a switch for "OEM Unlocking" in the developer menu and the switch is available, it's not greyed out. If unlocking didn't factory reset the phone I'd give it a shot but really don't want to set the phone up all over again if by some miracle it were to actually work.
I wanted to wait until black Friday too but my Nexus 6 was getting so laggy I couldn't handle it any more, it had to go. I will say I really love the Pixel 2 so far. Such a nice upgrade from old Shamu.
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thanks for the feedback.
i called VZW today inquiring about any upcoming promos/black friday. rep claimed that he did not see/know of any aside from the $300 trade-in credit (which my phone is not one of).
he did offer to waive the activation/upgrade fee ($35), free shipping overnight, and honor the $100 gift card (which I think is only applicable to new lines). he mentioned there was a sale of $15/month on the XL that ended on the 9th, but could not re-enable it for me.
so I'm going to sit tight (not really, just getting antsy), and wait to see what promos come out on Black Friday.
also, he did say that the device comes with the bootloader unlocked - I reminded him what that meant, as most reps think that this means password locked or something - but he sounded very certain he understood what I was referring to - so this could be a good sign, but I'm not holding my breath.
from my understanding, unlocking the bootloader does NOT root the device, as root has not been established on this device (yet).

looks like the $100 off at best buy is gone.
just waiting for VZW black friday announcement. last year, they announced it on 11/4 - so this year could be on Friday, 11/3.
I keep checking google for any other promotions, but no dice.
so if anyone sees any deals, please post it here.

aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?

jco23 said:
aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?
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I hope u don't seriously believe this

kolyan said:
I hope u don't seriously believe this
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i didn't buy them.... but why wouldn't we believe it?
on a side note, was showing my kids all of those "iphone drop from 1000 feet tests", and it got me thinking....
maybe the manufacturers place such a high price tag on the phones when they first come out to make these folks think twice about trying to intentionally break the phone. then, once they've been out for several months, the price drops for those that are really interested in keeping the device rather than experimenting on them....
just a thought....

jco23 said:
aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?
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jco23 said:
i didn't buy them.... but why wouldn't we believe it?
on a side note, was showing my kids all of those "iphone drop from 1000 feet tests", and it got me thinking....
maybe the manufacturers place such a high price tag on the phones when they first come out to make these folks think twice about trying to intentionally break the phone. then, once they've been out for several months, the price drops for those that are really interested in keeping the device rather than experimenting on them....
just a thought....
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Well - of course it is too good to be true. Doesn't take much to figure that out. Why the hell would they sell a new phone at a loss instead of just canceling the preorder or returning it.
Check out the sellers feedback: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

uecker87 said:
Well - of course it is too good to be true. Doesn't take much to figure that out. Why the hell would they sell a new phone at a loss instead of just canceling the preorder or returning it.
Check out the sellers feedback: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller
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hahahaha!
I would imagine that e-bay/Paypal would still reimburse them. once the transaction went sour.
but you're 100% correct, check the reviews first.

S10 Plus - NOTE8 = $450

So I would like to take advantage of the promo from Samsung which is $550 ( trade-in) for my Note 8, it's like brand new. And get the S10+ for $450.
I don't really use the note as a DD. I use a 1+ 6T I got due to unlockable bootloader and root.
What do you guys recommend?

Yes

That's what I did, if it wasn't for the $550 credit for my note 8 I would of returned the s10, but such a good deal I'll just keep the s10 and trade up later, possibly for note 10 if I like it

I gotten the note 8 for 600 and trading it in for 550 is a no brainer. I really wanted to wait for the note 10, but they might not offer anywhere close to 550 when the note 10 drops.

Win Win ! that's what I was thinking.
How are you guys liking your S10+?
Is their much difference between the two?

I have the ceramic black 512gb with s 200gb micro sd card. It's a sold performing phone which does everything well & I'm glad I made the choice.
Excellent screen, great UI, great snapper (versatile) great battery which you can hammer. It's just a great phone all said.

spjetrovic said:
Win Win ! that's what I was thinking.
How are you guys liking your S10+?
Is their much difference between the two?
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Compared to an N8 it's night and day. Only issue for me is the S Pen, since it's a feature I relied on.
Anyway, the S10+ is worth the $500 I paid. Certainly helps that Samsung provides extra benefits, as well as Buds for pre orders. However the main pull for me had to be the event in Feb. The demo S10s felt too smooth - plus they were easy on the eyes. Had I stayed home that day my current phone would still be the N8. True story.
1st things I noticed were RAM management, cam, and audio. S10+ has some solid steereo speakers. N8's speaker didn't wow me. Now, the MIC is another area of interest. Audio recordings come out super clear, and people no longer complain during calls.

spjetrovic said:
So I would like to take advantage of the promo from Samsung which is $550 ( trade-in) for my Note 8, it's like brand new. And get the S10+ for $450.
I don't really use the note as a DD. I use a 1+ 6T I got due to unlockable bootloader and root.
What do you guys recommend?
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I came to the S10+ from a OnePlus 6T as well. I got the T-Mobile version S10+ so I know I won't be able to root it.
With all the customizations available for the S10+ I am not missing root at all. And this is coming from someone who would never buy a locked bootloader phone.
My poor OnePlus 6T is just setting on my desk.
The one thing I was worried about with not rooting was ad blocking but I got Adhell3 up and running and have no ads system-wide.

bp328i said:
I came to the S10+ from a OnePlus 6T as well. I got the T-Mobile version S10+ so I know I won't be able to root it.
With all the customizations available for the S10+ I am not missing root at all. And this is coming from someone who would never buy a locked bootloader phone.
My poor OnePlus 6T is just setting on my desk.
The one thing I was worried about with not rooting was ad blocking but I got Adhell3 up and running and have no ads system-wide.
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Adhell3 ? I thought after no rooting we can not get full on anti adware system wide? Care to explain please?

fearbasel04 said:
Adhell3 ? I thought after no rooting we can not get full on anti adware system wide? Care to explain please?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/adhell-3-knox-t3908766

spjetrovic said:
So I would like to take advantage of the promo from Samsung which is $550 ( trade-in) for my Note 8, it's like brand new. And get the S10+ for $450.
I don't really use the note as a DD. I use a 1+ 6T I got due to unlockable bootloader and root.
What do you guys recommend?
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Hell yeah do it. You wont get $550 anywhere else for it. That's if they are still offering $550. I only see $300 on their site now unless i'm missing something.
I bought a Note 8 for $50 from a regular customer that came in my shop, (phone & computer repair) that i used to trade to Samsung for the $550 deal. I assumed it was a Buy 1 Get 1 offer because it was a regular customer, I didn't want to think of it as stolen because the guy had been coming to my shop for years. It was an AT&T Branded Note 8. Was still on someones contract and i assume was still paying for it because it wasn't blacklisted. I was using it as my daily driver. When i tried to do a sim unlock like i did my s8+ through AT&T, it came back as
"We can't complete your request
IMEI: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Request number: CULxxxxxxxx
Hi, Robert.
Thank you for contacting AT&T about unlocking your mobile device.
Because of certain AT&T guidelines, we were not able to unlock your device.
For more information about unlocking a device, check out our device unlock support page.
Thanks for choosing us"
This is what i got back from Samsung a couple of days ago.
"Dear Robert,
We’re happy to inform you that your Trade-In was successful and your device met all of the eligibility requirements. We hope you’re enjoying your new Galaxy S10+ 128GB (Verizon). No further action is needed at this point.
Thank you for participating in the Samsung Trade-in program."
It also had a pretty nasty scratch on the screen but i guess they considered that normal wear and tear. Needless to say, i got a hell of a deal on my S10+! $449 + the $50 investment in the Note = $499 :highfive:

nugzo said:
Hell yeah do it. You wont get $550 anywhere else for it.
I bought a Note 8 for $50 from a regular customer that came in my shop, (phone & computer repair) that i used to trade to Samsung for the $550 deal. I assumed it was a Buy 1 Get 1 offer because it was a regular customer, I didn't want to think of it as stolen because the guy had been coming to my shop for years. It was an AT&T Branded Note 8. Was still on someones contract and i assume was still paying for it because it wasn't blacklisted. I was using it as my daily driver. When i tried to do a sim unlock like i did my s8+ through AT&T, it came back as
"We can't complete your request
IMEI: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Request number: CULxxxxxxxx
Hi, Robert.
Thank you for contacting AT&T about unlocking your mobile device.
Because of certain AT&T guidelines, we were not able to unlock your device.
For more information about unlocking a device, check out our device unlock support page.
Thanks for choosing us"
This is what i got back from Samsung a couple of days ago.
"Dear Robert,
We’re happy to inform you that your Trade-In was successful and your device met all of the eligibility requirements. We hope you’re enjoying your new Galaxy S10+ 128GB (Verizon). No further action is needed at this point.
Thank you for participating in the Samsung Trade-in program."
It also had a pretty nasty scratch on the screen but i guess they considered that normal wear and tear. Needless to say, i got a hell of a deal on my S10+! $449 + the $50 investment in the Note = $499 :highfive:
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I'm expecting delivery tomorrow ?