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Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
eris94 said:
Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
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In my opinion I would just dish out the money for an Xperia s. Just root it and connect it with a dualshock controller.
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'Good' Phone
Imo the only good thing about the xperia play is the controls, the fact that is 'old' in specs you could buy something better, further support to the ps suite doesnt look better either (moving to ICS looks good but it will have ups and downs), still is a good phone but consider a second choice.
To be honest, no.
Unless you REALLY dont want to spend the extra cash for a way better phone, get this.
In comparison, its like buying a Nexus One in this day and age.
No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
Potato13 said:
No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
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Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=3608
Most of the games you can get on the play you can play on any other android device. If you want the play as a solid gaming device, you're better off with the vita.If you want the play for its physical controls on the move go for it. Specs wise it sucks and is bulky compared to the newer options which as mentioned are more expensive.
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
Drakenfall said:
Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=3608
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I read Adreno 220 the first time. Sorry. But even then I think a dual core phone with more ram would be better. Dual core just increases performance so much.
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TLRtheory said:
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
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Just because one game is optimized to run better on an older phone, that doesn't mean that there's, "No reason for all that". The performance in everything else is a lot better with those phones. The only thing that I will miss about the Xperia play when I get my next phone is the gamepad.
If you enjoy casual gaming in any way, as well as emulating the old classics, this is the phone for you. If just you like having a phone that works really well, this is still the phone to get. It runs great as a phone and you have the option to use the physical buttons to play games on it. I don't understand how anyone wouldn't want that. Then again, I'm a gamer to the core, so my judgement is lopsided hah.
If you're looking for a powerful beast, the Play isn't there any longer. But the Play is future proof because in 5 years, the Play will keep being at least a portable emulator which can handle anything below N64 with nice controls.
XPlay-Swype
I just picked one up for 90$ on eBay and am really liking it other than the fact that it seems to have a weak signal compared to my iPhone 4 and drops 3g quite frequently on Verizon. I'm beating all the gba castlevania games at the moment and some Zelda ocarina of time. Any good suggestions?
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Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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At this point, I think I'll be getting the First Gen Play because I highly doubt that Sony will come out with a new Play within the next 12 days
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Great 2nd phone
I am a proud owner of a Samsung Galaxy Note, huge AMOLED HD screen, powerful dual core yada yada yada.. I was looking to buy a PS Vita, I mean the Galaxy Note plays games extremely well but there's no getting away from a dedicated hardware game pad being ultimately better for portable gaming.. But Sony are asking too much for compulsory memory cards and the game titles are truly wallet rinsing.
In comes the next best thing the Xperia Play and nicely doubles as a second phone. (I am still scared of showing the Note too much - in public, always a risk of having it snatched!) So today I ordered the Xperia Play for a very reasonable £170 and I think will satisfy me for a while
crono141 said:
Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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IIRC Sony has basically said NO so far on an XPlay 2 of any sort. As far as is known its not in development at all, so it could be a looooong wait.
IrishStuff09 said:
Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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I upgraded from X8 to Play, I wasn't expecting it but I found it for a very cheap 150€.
I'm very happy with it, it's a big evolution, specially the screen size. I thought the fisical controls wouldn't be very important to me since I never played very much on my X8, but it does make a difference, it's simply great.
My thoughts for you are: if your looking for a nice performance, great gamming, nice screen size (not the best luminosity out doors, but it works) and amazing sound (the best I heard on a smartphone) and you have low budget like I did, go for this. If you want a powerful phone with the most amazing screen, you use your camera a lot, a phone with better functionality to compete with the current beasts in the market, I'd buy an Xperia S (too bad I had no money for it) or Xperia P
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
sufy1000 said:
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
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Indeed same for me - I bought the play about a month ago - specs are still enugh for me - and as i dont own a psp,.. neither my old beloved gameboy - I LOVE IT
But if u dont wan to carry around several devices - and are not one of those I NEED THE BIGGEST FASTEST AND HIGHEST guys - GET IT
Best allround handy for me - if u love console games
Hardware not too old - and nice and fluid - just a bit heavy
Btw - bought mine for 250€ - there are not many other similar hardware "speced" ( does it exist ) handys at that price anyway....
Just found this gaming tablet that could possibly kill the xperia play: http://eurodroid.com/2012/08/29/archos-gamepad-7-android-4-0-gaming-tablet/
It's a seven inch archos gaming tablet running ice cream sandwich. It has two proper touchpads/joysticks and is 1.5GHZ dual-core.
And at £130, it seems like a good deal. Release date is October
Two things
1. The Xperia Play is pretty close to dead, Sony doesn't really support it anymore, its outdated, and its only a matter of time before the new games won't play on it.
2. This tablet is made by Archos, long time purveyors of junky Android products. And its not a phone. This thing firstly is no competition for the Play and secondly is barely going to sell anyway, and the ones that do aren't gonna work very well.
This is the only alternative to the Play. Or connecting ps3 controller to phone/tablet (eww)
Besides the cheap Android handheld with no warranties.
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I think it does sound pretty interesting, I noticed it here:
http://www.slashgear.com/archos-gamepad-gets-physical-for-android-gaming-29244285/
Sounds like they're even incorporating something similar to GameKeyboard to provide physical-button to touchscreen mapping, with automatic game recognition.
Henri Crohas, ARCHOS Founder and CEO noted that “thanks to the mapping and automatic game recognition systems included on the GamePad, we already have over a thousand android games compatible with the ARCHOS GamePad’s physical controls, including back catalog titles that originally didn’t include physical controls.”
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Sounds pretty cool, but not sure if it'll be what I'm interested in for a tablet - which I don't see as a direct competitor for the Xperia Play. I was hoping Sony would announce a new gaming phone, but it doesn't look like it yet...
~Troop
Just adding Droid-Life's post about the Archos device...
Bought a 7" Archos tablet for my younger sister.. I have no complaints about their devices.
But I will never ditch the Xperia Play regardless if its "dead" to anyone
Droid-Life link
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/2...ail&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
I must say that this device does certainly look good, as long as the price is right and looks anything like the render shown I`ll certainly be interested.
I am no tech-head, but is not Nexus 7 already more powerful than this? I mean with Tegra 3 and stuff...
I am seriously contemplating getting a Nexus 7 for games and I thought pairing it with a bluetooth PS3 controller wasn't such a bad idea, for HOME gaming of course.
Could somebody prove me wrong, or convince me that this Argos thing is a better solution?
No it doesn't... This is a tablet. Tablet and phones are two different things
The Nexus 7 is more powerful than this and is likely a better device. The Archos tablet has a gamepad which seems to be it's big selling point. The gamepad doesn't look detachable though so isn't like the gamepad seen on the wikipad tablet which is more powerful or just as powerful as the nexus 7. I read somewhere that this Archos device automatically takes games that don't use the controls and makes them work even if they aren't optimised. From what i've read, it'll be under 200 dollars
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I read somewhere that this Archos device automatically takes games that don't use the controls and makes them work even if they aren't optimised. From what i've read, it'll be under 200 dollars
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Yeah I saw that in a description for the device, it`s using a patented system and currently has compatibility with over a thousand games, I would assume it also has the ability to have the on screen controls programmed in aswell which would expand it further.
If it does indeed release at that price I think I will most likely purchase it as that would be exceptional value for money.
Its actually stated about the controls and the price on eurogamer
I'll admit i'm quite tempted by this and can see myself buying one. The price is good, cheaper than my play (£150 Sim Free, it looks like this it will be a little cheaper).
I have heard bad things about Archos but who hasn't heard bad things about sony and still loves their play?
A gaming tablet with dual core processor.... I don't think that you can play the newest games with highest textures on this thing...
Sorry for my bad English. It's not my native language.
There are also details of the Wikipad floating about which will have a 10.1" screen with a resolution of 1280x800 and has "Nvidia Tegra 3 T30 1.4 GHz processor, and it will run with 1 GB of DDR2 RAM, and at least 16 GB of internal Flash memory storage". Sounds interesting again, its control pad will be a detachable one.
I've seen a lot of these physical controller solutions brag about being an Xperia Play killer... and ALL of them have failed to get good software/developer support. Most of them don't even hit a 4th of Xperia Play's game compatibility count, and thusly end up in the tier of crap that isn't good for anything but emulation. Xperia Play is the first and only to get relevant, this-generation games. It's good as an emulator, but doesn't have to piggyback off older systems' works to have awesome content... can't say that about the Gametel Controller, iControlPad and others.
So there's no secret that I'm a bit skeptical about this projected figure of 1000 games... if they're serious about that, then we truly would have the first device since Xperia Play to add physical controls AND enough developer support to matter. Don't get me wrong, I'm interested and stoked... but at the same time, skeptical and already seeing problems (size, obviously terrible d-pad).
I know what you mean TLR, but this Archos tablet seems like it will play any xperia play optimised game and maybe some more
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Game support shouldn't be too difficult if they can do something like GameKeyboard with the ability to load/save/share profiles. This is something Sony should have done with the Xperia play, instead of leaving us completely reliant on each individual company/dev.
That said, Xperia PLAY is a phone and this a tablet and so the two shouldn't be compared. I don't see myself getting this.. why? the whole point of the Xperia PLAY was to get a phone and gaming in one reasonably sized device. If I didn't mind carrying something of this size around with me, with gaming in mind, I'd just buy a Vita.
can i call my friends?
tezlewis1988 said:
can i call my friends?
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With Skype, I don't see why not?
This thing is way too huge. 3.5 or 4 inches would have been perfect. 7 inches too big to be portable.
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can we have call with that ?
- No
so the xperia play is still the one !
Rogue Leader said:
2. This tablet is made by Archos, long time purveyors of junky Android products. And its not a phone. This thing firstly is no competition for the Play and secondly is barely going to sell anyway, and the ones that do aren't gonna work very well.
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I had several Archos products in the past and while their hardware is good, I dislike their business practice so there is no chance of me buying their future products. Things such as lacking of firmware upgrade and instead bringing out incremental model upgrade. Also locking the harddrive serial to the firmware so you cannot replace it if it dies, I know new devices use flash memory now, but point is I don't see them as a company being close to its fan community. Just my 2 cents.
Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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thatsupnow said:
Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Wow, you're just spoiling for a fight. Perhaps you'd find one if your post made sense?
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It make plenty sense buddy I've just grown up and gotten tired of the slow laggy unresponsive way behind the times that is the xperia play. Maybe you should wake up also. And to the people who are hoping, wishing, dying for an xperia play 2, you really need to give your head a shake and snap out of that dream your locked into cause it won't happen
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Exactly the opposite for me... but then again my experience with the Xperia Play hasn't really left a lot to be desired.
First of all, there's a bit of irony here that kinda makes me grin... and it's that you're a huge part of the reason I've been getting nothing but flawless performance out of my Xperia Play. Do you remember being the creator of this topic? All since you posted that, I've been using, re-using and referring people to that particular ROM because it gave me level of consistent smooth function that can be described as nothing less than 'perfect'. Sure it's not Ice Cream Sandwich, Jelly Bean or whichever bundle of already-existing abilities that people decide to call new for whichever fad update people go wild over... but since these android updates are generally repackaged abilities that any owner of >2.1 Android can get, there's not much reason for me to sacrifice the polished stability of my GB build for anything else. Don't need to upgrade to ICS/JB for notification toggles, because we can already get something that includes far more customization than anything ICS/JB's stock options offer (LINK). Don't need JB's Project Butter because the performance was already silky smooth... we can the look of ICS/JB (LINK), we can get the data monitoring/data management of ICS/JB (LINK), the camera (LINK) and gallery (LINK) of ICS/JB, and even the power management (LINK)... all without ICS/JB.
The idea that this phone *died* because of slow-ness, lag or unresponsiveness always sounds odd to me because my Xperia Play hasn't really ever been slow or unresponsive. Like you though, I was always open to the idea of something better... which is why I reached out to more powerful phones like the Atrix, Evo 3D and Galaxy S3 - thinking that a paired PS3 controller or MOGA would give me a superior experience. Know what happened? The Atrix pretty much self-destructed, the Evo 3D's gaming worth ended up being a trainwreck with loads of games sacrificed the moment it was upgraded to ICS and the situation for GS3 gaming ended up being a frustrating mess. First off, having to pair the MOGA to it alone turns what should be quick and seamless into a chore - and that holds true regardless of whether we go through the MOGA App itself or the "alleged" universal IME. If the quotation didn't make it clear, there's a lot about the universal IME I dislike.
On paper, that should be the clear-cut killer app that totally makes the Xperia Play obsolete... yet it does everything but. It'll make the MOGA ideal for emulators, but by far and large - the appeal of the Xperia Play has been that it's so good at present-generation gaming that it doesn't need to piggyback yester-decade's antiquated games. Not only is the universal IME a ***** to set up, but there's so much sacrificed when trying to pretend the MOGA+uIME replaces Xperia Play. The lack of a d-pad automatically compromises it's practicality for many games where analog locomotion feels weird, and if we want the MOGA Controller that does have a d-pad, we'd be sacrificing portability even more than the existing MOGA (which is easily the bulk of two Xperia Plays even before a phone is put into it)... but for the sake of getting into just how horribly off it is to say MOGA > Xperia Play, let's pretend it isn't automatically on a lower level because of it's cumbersomeness.
Just as an example, let's cite Eternal Legacy. Eternal Legacy is natively a touch-only game that got a special edition for Xperia Play that makes it completely optimized... and by complete; I mean the physical gamepad can be used to manipulate the entire game from menu navigation, map navigation and combat. While it would seem like an RPG should be okay for a touch-screen, having physical controls is still much more precise and much faster way to perform multi-menu operations... so a gamepad is definitely the superior option. First of all, finding a working version of the damn game for the GS3 is annoying in itself... and since it was only truly prime with Xperia Play's gamepad, we have to resort to the only half-ass usable MOGA+uIME+GameKeyboard (or JC6) combination which requires tons of setup, and outputs an experience that's only half-workable (it really only works for field navigation... nothing else). We can plug any phone of any specs into that equation and get the same result, and plug many different games into that equation to also find games in high masses that are only half-playable.
If you see where this is going, you see that I just stepped up to the most well-known of the "steroid phones" and actually ended up making sacrifices... and for what? Fluidity? My Xperia Play experience has already been smooth... and on a stock ROM. We could revive the note that I'm a heavy supporter of GameKeyboard (which also delivers the same sense of half-playability to native touch games)... but Xperia Play's already got over 450 Android titles stacked under it's belt with the count still growing... so it's not only the most heavily supported physical gaming solution, but it's software support is very much so alive... and as the person who's taken on the tooth-gritting (often overwhelming) task of databasing Xperia Play's software releases, I can say from a very strong stance that it's support hasn't faltered.
From here, we could cite the Xperia Play's low internal memory... and to that I'd note how that's become a non-issue with MiniTool Partition and Link2SD. With that combination, I've amassed over 340 installs and I still have 85.4% of my phone storage free.
From here, we could note that Xperia Play's only rocking half a gig of RAM and a single-core processor with it's only real saving grace being an (outdated) Adreno GPU... yet we can have our minds blown as we see beefier phones like the Atrix struggling to run N.O.V.A. 3 as well as the Xperia Play does.
Of course there's stronger phones out there, but I've already got the prime for gaming. MOGA's doing quite well in it's own right and I love to see it getting out of the "only good for emulating old-ass games" category that so many other BT controllers tend to quickly fall into... but it doesn't compare to or replace the Xperia Play at all.
Another thing worth mentioning is just how far it's evolved. Look at any of the old reviews for Xperia Play, and we find that a lot of the original complaints aren't even valid anymore. It records in HD now, the prior complaints of auto-dimming have been handled, and while everyone loved to complain about the lack of integration into Sony's official gaming ecosystem - look at how quiet they've become now that it's been resolved.
Honestly, what puzzles me is exactly what one would be doing to get their Xperia Play to a point of being sluggish, slow or unresponsive. When people see my videos, I'm consistently bombarded with questions about what magic tweaks/kernels/whatnot I used to get my Xperia Play so smooth... and the answer's always the same... nothing. It's a simple stock ROM that I debloated through Root Explorer, paired with a carefully-chosen launcher that's optimal for fluidity and battery life... and it's been VERY smooth, fast and responsive.
Xperia Play's definitely not in the limelight, nor is it burning up the media... and from that it's easy to perceive that the Xperia Play's dead, but for anyone in the know... it's software support and fanbase are still stronger than any other physical gaming medium in the entire world of smartphones. This is why all my stronger phones have been sold or given away so that I can go back to my Xperia Play. No point in having a dual/quad core with as much memory as a desktop computer when my phone's already eating up any software I throw at it with ease.
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Woww.. Just woww..
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It's the best gaming phone and multiple-use device by far.
I've recently upgraded to an HTC One X for my daily use phone because it's faster for everyday tasks, but I keep my Xperia Play close by at all times, switching sims if necessary, because it's just so good for gaming.
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I would Luke to add to TL's comment that I too have had the chance to play with (for about 2 days each) a GS3 and an HTC one x and yes they are sweet devices in their own right. But when push came to shove I bought a unlocked xperia play r800at. And have absolutely no regrets. Especially now that I am on or will be in three weeks a GSM phone, all these choices of roms. I've had a pre opus phone two years ago where I used a gamepad overlay for the phone hardware keyboard and sold it on a heartbeat to buy the Verizon xperia play. There too.... no regrets, except thy it's CDMA. But that's a other story. All in all I feel the play is the best multipurpose phone/gaming device out there. Yes its hardware is dated but that hasn't stopped of from still getting game dev love. And lets not even talk about the thousands of roms for emulators. Especially if you have the emus that have been modded to show up in the game launcher.
On a side note. TL what launcher you use on your phone ? I use an older version of go launcher before it became memory hungry. And my phone is super smooth and fast.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
To each their own...
It all come's down to personal preference. I prefer Android gaming on my Galaxy Nexus or Kyros tablet with a Dualshock 3 and the Sixaxis app, but that doesn't mean i don't like my R800x or that the phone has some sort of "problem" or considered "DEAD". In fact I never had a problem with my R800x and it run's like a champ. There's ton's of great game's that are xp optimized, plenty of custom ROM's, and some awesome theme's. My son love's it and use's it all the time.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
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This is so true
My xplay is a saviour in all the clothes shops or waiting outside a dressing room as she takes about a hour in on shop it crazy
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Whenever someone say this should go to the HD2 forum and say it to get flamed.
Also my brother have an iPhone5, but I got an R800 for him and the first he said was: COOL!
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I feel like I should get rid of it, but then I just can't. I love this phone.
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TLR owned the OP sooooo bad.
I agree to every word he says.
+1 to you TLR.
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. I can vouch for this and it's actually the reason my brother got rid of it once his contract expired. You shouldn't have to modify or custom install anything for your device to run smooth. Sure, stock GB is good, but it is not perfect or flawless like some are claiming. The PLAY is a fun and enjoyable gaming device, but its performance is not superb, it's tolerable. I do not think TLR's or some of these other guys' opinions are applicable to 100% Pure stock Xperia PLAY. One thing that pissed me off when I was pure stock was the internal memory running out. Come on guys and/or gals, stop practicing fanboyism and call a spade a spade.
In regards to the OP saying they're looking for something better. If you still wanna give Sony a second chance, check out the Xperia Z. It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
Well said TLR and ozzmanj1
Without repeating the flawless statements they have already made , :good: to you guys, right on point!
Is the Xperia Play dead? Do XPlay owners need to grow up and move on? No and No, Im 26 and just got an R800at , ditching Verizon and went to Tmobile. I never found my Play to be slow , sluggish or un responsive. Im running a rooted stock debloated rom with holo launcher and I couldn't be happier, it does everything I need and then some (still to this day) and if were ever in discussion about "you have to root and debloat the XPLay to use it" I honestly root and debloat every android device I own, my entire family uses Droid branded androids and I rooted/debloated all of those as well. Rooted = Liberated !
The developer community here is strong, their are some great minds working on stuff for this device still. Cheers to all of them !
I just also built my 20yr old sister an XPlay and she loves it, she took it over the SG3 for the pure gaming factor (smart choice, especially since SG4 is in the works you would be a fool to buy a SG3 now, and of course I built it for her for free) and I even built one for my 7yr old nephew one, I of course removed and possibilities to make phone calls or text and its not in service, he is just gaming away on it. Hands down, the Xperia Play is a great device and I for one and damn happily to own / use it.
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Whilst I'm not disagreeing with you (the xperia play is not a great phone in stock form, too much bloatware, Sony's stupid habit of low storage on every phone etc) I have to say that it does come into its own when modded, even just rooted. The thing is that most phones feel redundant after 6 months or so now and it seems to be a trend. Apple know it, which is why they release an iPhone every 6 month's. The difference is that some people with buy the new, others will mod the old and make it new again. When I had my iPhone 3g years back it was made redundant early on but after jailbreaking it did multitasking, background wallpapers, folders, everything apple said it couldn't!
The thing is that this is xda developers and the main use for this forum is modifying their phones so if someone criticises then it is obvious that other people will tell them to mod.
Talking of criticism, I have been on this forum for years modding various phones, but have never seen so many people criticising a single handset as they do the XP. It's such a shame as for me it is what I have wanted for so long, something that my N-Gage years ago never managed!!
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well, my first dissapointment was Gameloft games. Standard GL games like 9mm and shadow guardian run on low graphic while galaxy s get the normal version.
I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I couldn't agree with this more ! :good:
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. .... It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
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You are comparing a 2 years old phone, one with single core old CPU technology against a newer gen quadcore device with highend GPU and 5 times the amount of ram.
So i was just browsing around and apparently XOLO is releasing a new gaming phone. At first i was excited cause the name was "XOLO Play" and i don't know about you guys but that very sounded familiar. So yeah with my heart full of hope and my head full of dreams i clicked on the link, and thats when i got angry. NO PHYSICAL CONTROLS!!!!!!! Come on now, just cause you call it a gaming phone doesn't make it a gaming phone, and if you are going to call it a gaming (no physical controls) phone at least give is some out of this world sick specs. These don't even compare to the latest phones let alone make it a genuine gaming phone. Compare this to the HTC ONE, Sony Xperia Z, or the Samsung GS4 and it pretty much nothing.
Are you guys feeling the same way about these so called "Gaming Phones"?
http://www.techtree.com/content/news/4114/xolo-play-nvidia-tegra-3-smartphone-launching.html
XPERIA PLAY 2 WHERE ARE YOU?
yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile
i'll buy that on first day , if that has physical gamepad.
but how ! how a phone can serve to gamers without pgysical game pad ????!!1
suerly , without gamepad , xperia ZU is much better that it ....
where is xoeria play 2
I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:
at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.
I believe there will never be another phone with gaming controls built in. As far as buying a regular phone to game on, you can't beat an inexpensive Nexus 4. There's lots of them used up for sale. With a Snapdragon S4 Pro quadcore and 2Gb of ram, it really is a gaming powerhouse. You can't get anything close to that price.
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I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:
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at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.
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Interesting video but a few thinks wrong no L/R triggers and no joystick/touchpads also its windows but still interesting.
Yeah there are ALOT of android gaming devices but we want a android gaming phone.
Also the xperia play 2 could be thin if if they wanted too. That would also make the phone slightly uncomfortable though, but thats the good thing about android customization and variety it fat phones just down right sicken you then go get a different phone, but i want gaming controls so a fat phone sounds fine to me.
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I'm so confused...
How can they label that a 'Gaming' smartphone? Specifications of other smartphones far surpass that of the XOLO Play and considering it lacks any form of hardware controller it is no different to every other phone that is released at the moment.
Not to mention the 12 core ULV GPU is seriously crap in the Tegra 3. It's not much better than the Adreno 205 in my opinion. CPU is great though...
They got peoples attention lol
I think i'll keep my money for something else
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yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile
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Same here, had both N-gages as well.
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I've been considering new tablets, and honestly the Shield Tablet has the features I want and I'm able to get one for $250, which seems reasonable. But I'm just wondering if it's still worth it as the it is a year old. How does it compare to newer devices?
If you're primarily going to be using it for gaming, there isn't a better tablet out there. The tablet is a steal for $250. The latest official update really makes the tablet shine and the custom rom called "Blisspop" even makes the device that much better in terms of performance. You won't regret getting one.
Well at the moment there are not many tablets that are faster (maybe even no faster) than this tablet.
Antutu scores are one of the highest even compared with the latest phones.
So speedwise it is still top notch and tablets that maybe come close you have to pay double the price for compared to a shield.
The 32Gb with Lte is unbeaten for that price.
I bought the 32GB LTE version in July, because an LTE tablet anywhere close to the Shield in terms of specs/screen etc. would have been ~$150 more.
Despite the battery recall issue, I'm satisfied with it. My (original) unit has been working perfectly and is very smooth with Lillipop 5.1 (the 3.1 OTA).
I should be receiving my replacement tomorrow, according to UPS. Presuming it doesn't have a defect, I'm looking forward to settling in. I never bothered to settle in on the old tablet (automatic actions, power saving stuff, that kind of thing) since I found out about the recall shortly after buying it, and didn't bother to fine tune it.
I recommend the tablet as an LTE device in the US, though if I didn't need the LTE connectivity probably there might be better values in wifi only (I'm not a gamer, so other tablets could meet my needs... but there are relatively few 8" LTE tablets without permanently locked bootloaders here).
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The problem of the tablet is really the processor that is getting old pretty quick (don't know exactly it's true performance), but nowadays everything coming out is already being 8 cores at 2 ghz or more.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Checkout swappa.com
nbollinger said:
Checkout swappa.com
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There is nothing there for it.
M3drvr said:
There is nothing there for it.
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https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
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https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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Its something on your end then
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Its something on your end then
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No. It's just that there are none...
There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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Yeah my question was basically how to get one to Canada that's under $500. Impossible! Cheapest I've found is on eBay shipped for $530 for 16gb model no accessories.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350€ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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My Shield Tablet LTE topped my Nexus 9's scores on Antutu plus the Shield gaming is great to have. Let's not forget about the SD slot and the mini HDMI port on top either. This tablet still destroys everything else (even most phones) a year later. I really mine because it has a stylus and no dumb Samsung home button like their Tablet S/S2 does. Its hard to find a good tablet these days yet the Shield holds its ground and doesn't seem to lose any performance over time. I like playing Half Life 2 on it or DOOM 3 especially when I travel. Its nice to have a tablet which can play nice games too even though that's not its primary purpose for me.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350â?¬ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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Those cheap windows tablets also use Intel chips in most cases plus Windows an as OS handles things differently than Android does. I agree that there aren't many great games but the ones they do have are fun in my opinion. I have the Shield TV as well and I play all kinds of games including emulators without any issues. My i7 Samsung Ultra book probably can't handle some of the games the Shield can then again I haven't tried. I'm not a big PC gamer but I do know the GPU isn't that great in most Windows tablets/ultrabooks. Android M fixes a lot of the productivity issues and adds multi window and I'm sure Nvidia is working on it now anyway. They tend to lush updates out promptly in most cases unless there's a big issue.
I haven't seen another tablet have better gaming performance than he Shield or Nexus 9 since hwy share a GPU yet use different CPU's. My Nexus 6's SD805 doesn't come close to he 3D score that the tablet does but on Marshmallow it does get a nice ~1500 pt boost likely from the optimization in it. I can imagine the same will occur in the Shield Tablet but we won't know until Nvidia releases it.
I'm not saying the Shield is the best fit everyone but it is a great tablet if you are in the market for a LTE enabled 8in tablet thats fast, runs near stock Android and has nice games for it.
Most of those BEST Nvidia Shield games coming soon are old and I finished them already. (RES5, Half Life, Borderlands, Doom...).
The thing is, you get a good device, but you will probably end playing most games that your phone already can play maxed out.
Other thing is Nvidia blahblahblah says it's more powerful than a X360 GPU, but then most games have a little lag and nothing, but really nothing made to the android yet comes close to most X360\PS3 gameplay\physics (they just look good, but plays like crap).
Then it's my 4th Nvidia shield all are defective and the last one needs to go to RMA again.
I never had an android device, so I wanted to try it, with my experience is just a god damn bugged SO worst than windows.
Also I got sad with the strategy games and how nothing on the android thousand of games even come close to Command and Conquer Red Alert II from like 2000
My opinion:
GOOD:
- hardware Performance;
- Sound;
- has it's own wireless gamepad;
- Nvidia software + remote pc play (button mapping already in the tablet, no need to root 4 that);
- More games than other android devices;
BAD:
- Android is not really optimized;
- Not much AAA games:
- Nothing like C&C, age of empires, Skyrim........ (most games are very cheap copies of good games, but look like a 2003 game);
- In the real world, performance is not as big as nvidia make you think (best phones now probably have better performance, like Samsung S6 which is a lot more little and doesn't come close to having more than a hundred cores like this nvidia);
- Screen quality is not that awesome, it is a High resolution LCD, but nothing special besides that. It doesn't get any close to samsung phone's\tablet amoled screens;
- Battery doesn't last much either;
I actually think that something like that made for DX12 and wind 10 would probably get almost twice the performance than on the actual android OS. At least I saw some people playing BF3 on dell cheap 1 year old tablets that cost basically the same as this nvidia shield. Nowadays with DX12 and Wind 10 soon may be a new era for tablets (it seems windows based hardware have more performance per price than android devices). At least I never seen any 300€ android tablet playing anything close to a BF3 which is years ahead in gameplay + physics than any android game I ever seen\played until now.
ps: If it was today I would buy a ~350€ DELL wind tablet that can even play BF3 (guess what? No need to Root for anything as you own everything already and can update\mod everything).
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