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Does anyone else think that due to SE releasing an Android based "PSP" phone we will finally get to see more and more high-quality games on our android phones?
Personally I won't be buying the Xperia play but I strongly believe that due to it's release a lot more developers will jump on the android gaming bandwagon, which will then obviously benefit a range of Android phone owners (Desire HD anyone?)
So whats your opinion? Will the Xperia play help Android reach or even exceed the gaming quality we have seen on the Iphone? (no fart apps, in terms of 3D FPS, RPG, etc....). Will the Xperia be such a breakthrough that developers will (finally) dump iOS and develope for Android first!?
I really hope the games reeased on the Play will have no soft keys and all the leaching oppurtunisists will finally buy atleast the consolse
No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.
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No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.
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Problem is Tegra Zone only works with Tegra devices. The Xperia play is built on snapdragon scorpion.
The Xperia Play will bring a different crowd in. One of the benefits of it is there will be Playstation games you can download and play, and that some games on Android are optimized for the controller. It really won't bring anything major in though, since as far as gpu goes it's not all that much faster than what we have now.
Correction-Tegra Zone is available to any device with a resolution of 480x800, and running Android 2.1.
I hope that more good games come out; there are some good ones now but personally, I think that games are better if you have separate controls.
I think it's brilliant. But I also call it the Emulator Phone. I'm going to rock it ASAP since no one will release a decent Bluetooth gamepad.
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Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...
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Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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Given their clearly-stated intention to restrict compatibility to a small range of 'certified' handsets, that point is moot IMO.
They could easily have used higher-spec hardware themselves and only certified equally high-spec handsets.
As it stands, the Play aside, the only phones that will definitely be able to play the Playstation branded games are Tegra2 handsets, which are definitely better specced than the Play.
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Correction-Tegra Zone is available to any device with a resolution of 480x800, and running Android 2.1.
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Well,the Tegra Zone app itself will work with any device with the specs you mentioned,but games will run only on Tegra devices,so it's no good.
It all depends on how well the games can be played without Xperia Play.
I'd rather carry a phone with qwerty key pad than a game pad.
Those are 10 games out the 50 that will be available... keep in mind that those games are re-designed to work with the game-pad
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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That was me! I said that!
Also, I voted yes cause I'm going to develop for android cause of it.
I just need to find a quick-start guide
I tried the android emulator, but its slow as hell on my PC...
Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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it's sales are very low
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Ive been told by retailers there is a shortage
The Rogers guys showing them off at Videogames Live used Verizon's units cause they said there were far too few to waste any on demos
One retailer I went to only got 1.
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Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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How is the hardware not good enough?
Nova 2, Cordy, Backstab, Asphalt 6 look good and pay well.
Gingerbread flies on the Xperia Play.
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Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now, i dont know if you have a play (but judging from your above comment, i doubt it) but coming from someone who does, its great, if your only looking at reviews/non-confirmed sales/specs and coming to a conclusion your missing out
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games
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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
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Nope. I'm only considering overall enthusiasm about this phone on the internet forums. The enthusiasm is more or less non present at all. Of course, there is still a way that A LOT of people are buying it and, before they could even post on XDA, suddenly dying from an endless joy they recieve from playing those top-notch gameloft games, which all (except for, well, one) has been available for iOS for months, but i find it quite unrealistic.
Anyway, to improve the gaming situation this phone should be popular, i mean, POPULAR, like top HTC or Samsung phones are, with all their multimillion sales. And this phone is not. I suppose, it is even less desireable then it's brother Xperia Arc.
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now
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Right now, this phone is outdated. Hardware is good for 2010, but now it is 2011, and there are already some exclusive games that won't even launch on a single-core CPU smartphone. And Play have to survive in this environment for at least a year. The only hope is that Sony will pay for development of a new games especially for Play.
Phone is ideal for emulators, though.
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games
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Yep. Let's hope that this thing will really bring something.
this is the best thing to come to retro console emulation... ever
if you are a retro gaming hobbyist... this is the phone to get period.
I don't know how much more enthusiasm people are wanting. There aren't really any identifiable flaws with it and it has the latest and greatest of everything. I personally think this is the best phone ever.
Is it a revolution for handheld gaming in phone form? I think the idea's been done before so no... but put this up agianst a n-gage and see which one wins
so i been keeping up with reviews with this phone
http://www.businessinsider.com/xperia-play-review-2011-6
i see nothing but bad reviews for this phone =/ people are saying this phone is weak and handhelds that are out now are more powerful..... i dont see how the psp has a 333mhz cpu 64mb of ram and the ds 133mhz cpu with 16mb of ram
i dont see how this phone is not powerful compared to these? i really like this phone alot better then my epic 4g, ya the screen was pretty but now i dont really noticed it anymore as im use to the play screen, and the speed of my epic was only fast because it was rooted with all bloat ware removed and had CIQ and everything else removed for speed
the reviewers dont like it because there are dual core tegra units out already and this phone is a single core snapdragon with an adreno gpu, sure its not as powerful as the new phones coming out but its plenty enough for the games being thrown at it and to handle psone titles.
i honestly dont care what the reviewers say, i love this phone, its very fast and does everything i need in a nice way, its way better than my old iphone 3g, i love the gamepad, the touch surface takes a while to get used to but its decent as opposed to having to smudge my screen with my fingers
I don't know if you're asking a question or anything, but my Play runs faster than my DInc2 review unit and MUCH better/faster than my Fascinate. I think many people are mad that it didn't come with future-proof dual-cores or even 4G. But as a regular phone with basically stock Gingerbread on Verizon, it runs great and outperforms any phones I've reviewed or owned. The only real slowdown you might notice is multi-tasking, but for me it's really only been on low battery plus lots of apps/games running in the background. Sure, they skipped over any extraordinary features besides the controller, but that's why you get this phone really and it is solidly constructed and plays very well.
That being said, I would love root and custom roms/kernels to make this a beast.
That website likes to bash sony, not going to take him seriously. He should be able comparing the gaming experience between phones.. Not the psp... That's what this was made for... Play some first person shooters not Maiden... And then come to all negative conclusions. Never read a more biased review in my life.
It can play all the games coming out right now... Mainstream is not dual core yet... How many computer games require quad i7s, just because it's out and exists, doesnt mean you need it right away.
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i mean i wish they waited and put at least the 1.2ghz cpu in or the 220 adreno gpu but oh well it has the power to play ps1 games and if sony really wants to make money code psp games to this and throw in some PSN access
Almost all my ifriends who have seen this phone love it.
I love this phone.
Games run fine.
Why play a game on a powerhouse when you still have to comtrol it by touchscreen?
Touchscreen controls are the worst thing to happen to most games. (except angry birds )
If you want a gaming phone, buy this. If you dont want a gaming phone, buy something else.
If sexplay 2 is out when my 2 year contract is up i will easily upgradeg to it. Dont think i could ever go back to a touchscreen only phone now.
Even engadget is suggesting a xperia play 2 indirectly
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Most reviewers don't focus on what this phone is, I've seen a website compare it to a 3DS it's not trying to revolutionise hand held gaming.
It's a mobile phone with a gaming controller and I love it.
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If you enjoy game playing, then this is the sickest thing in the world, so they can all shutup
The bad reviews should not be surprising at all. The Xperia Play is a phone for a pretty niche market even for handheld gaming. Android games are nothing to write home about in terms of quality (please don't mention Gameloft games... I think they're horrible for the most part).
The real boon of this phone has been emulators and the battery life. Coming from a Galaxy S where I had to make sure to not use the screen too often or it wouldn't make it through the day, the Play is amazing. Emulators speak for themselves. In my time commuting I've completed Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, a few Mario games, and Zelda Minish Cap. Every single one of these is head and shoulders above every single Android title on the market right now.
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Never read a more biased review in my life.
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You should check out anything Sony on IGN. Talk about biased.
I have to agree with some comments on here, the phone is aimed at a pretty niche market and there are more powerful phones already out.
However, I can say that I played a good amount of Android games before and on the Xperia Play I can say you can actually play those games accurately. I don't know how people can struggle with on screen game pads for emulators or even regular games, I never bothered to download any emulators on my previous phone because I knew it wouldn't be enjoyable. The only game I ever completed was Angry Birds because of the basic controls, anything that needed accuracy was impossible.
Anyone that has seen me playing my phone always asks what phone it is. Even non-gaming coworkers are intrigued by it.
This PLAY is awesome.. but unfortunately, i got a defective one.. Only can enjoy games with emu's, and can not update it to 2.3.3 firmware, also can not enjoy gameloft games or any other HD games as it would crash the android OS till the touch screen, power button, wifi, bluetooth, gamepad touch, sdcard not function if i play those games for too long. Have to remove battery to make PLAY works normal again.
Luckily, firmware 2.3.2 (UK version) still makes a bit friendship with my PLAY.. although the android OS crash after playing gameloft or hd games for too long, the touch screen would still work so that i could reboot my PLAY using quickboot app (thanks to deoxlar for recommending the app to solve my removing battery issue after the OS crash)
To be honest I have not seen even one positive review about the Play, the reviewers seem far too concerned about the latest dual core devices even though the Play runs every current game and app the same and thats not even including the gamepad that defines the Play.
It's like none of the reviewers have ever played a game on a mobile device ever, amazing how bad some of those reviewers are, how they got jobs I will never know.
And yeah, the Play is by far the best gaming phone out there thanks to the game pad, no other phone comes close, as a phone it lacks a few features and the hardware may seem a bit dated compared to the very latest phones on the market but make no mistake, this is a fantastic mobile gaming device.
Just a shame SE totally failed at advertising and securing some "must have" games for the device.
Reviews I've seen by gamers love the phone. Those that aren't gamers don't like it because it doesn't come with some word printed on the spec sheet. I've yet to see any performance problems so I'm personally glad it doesn't waste battery life for performance I can't see. But I gave up having to have the latest buzz word item right away many years ago.
In the same way that the handhelds haven't replaced my consoles and the same way the consoles haven't replace my computer, the Play isn't replacing the handelds. The Play certainly replaced my phone and I will never willingly go back to a phone without a game pad on it.
As for the comparisons to the handhelds, why would somebody think I'd carry my 3DS or PSP with me wherever I go like I do with my phone? Who are these people that do this or think this is reasonable?
Screw that son of a hamburger(his name is else hamburger lol )
I am an LG optimus and HTC hd 7 user and im really happy with this phone
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Sigh, most people who have reviewed this phone review it with the crappy pre-installed games. I have hardly played the pre-installed games to busy with emulators and now Samurai II: Vengeance (friggin awesome game ).
I could care less if the hardware feels dated or is not "dual-core" since every game ive tried on the xplay has played extremely well (apart from some Fpse games) but once the xplay gets overclocked (or even if it is not overclocked) im guessing most games for the next two years the xplay will still be better than the touch screen alternatives.
I guess the best reviews are the ones made from people who own the phone. And from what I read on this forum in other place, people are, generally, extremely satisfied. I have one, too and I'm happy as well!
These reviewers say "wait for PS Vita or buy a 3DS". That doesn't make much sense, since I won't carry on my pocket any of these devices, and my phone I carry everywhere I go.
I mainly agree with Clyzm, the bad reviews come because it is a niche product. It destroys any other phone for emulating games, but non-gaming reviewers will not attend to that; it has surprisingly good rear camera and GPS performance, but a reviewer won't spend much time with those features, and the most important thing, its price is outrageous through official channels. In Spain it costs €650 out of contract (ca. $1000). Its brother, the Arc, costs €540; a Samsung Galaxy S II costs €580 and a HTC Sensation fetches €600 (and it's selling way less than the SGS II).
I researched quite a bit and found mine cheap (€400) on eBay Germany: your average consumer is less likely to research as much. If I had paid a thousand bucks for this phone, it'd be already back in the store. This phone does deliver a very good performance where it should: but it lacks a lot of oomph to command such high prices.
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I mainly agree with Clyzm, the bad reviews come because it is a niche product. It destroys any other phone for emulating games, but non-gaming reviewers will not attend to that; it has surprisingly good rear camera and GPS performance, but a reviewer won't spend much time with those features, and the most important thing, its price is outrageous through official channels. In Spain it costs €650 out of contract (ca. $1000). Its brother, the Arc, costs €540; a Samsung Galaxy S II costs €580 and a HTC Sensation fetches €600 (and it's selling way less than the SGS II).
I researched quite a bit and found mine cheap (€400) on eBay Germany: your average consumer is less likely to research as much. If I had paid a thousand bucks for this phone, it'd be already back in the store. This phone does deliver a very good performance where it should: but it lacks a lot of oomph to command such high prices.
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near $1k over there is crazy, you guys are getting the shaft in europe, you can get an unlocked one for around $550 on ebay, i got mine for around $100 on contract but it would have been around $600 if i got one without a contract
xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
First of. Try to use some "." and "," in your text. It's really hard to read.
But to answer your question. My vote goes for Vita.
Yup, same goes here. Ps vita would be your choice. Having a quad core chipset and all.
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Yeah, Xplay can't compete with all those gaming console out there but remember,it is a phone. Meant to be a phone + game player. Not a dedicated gaming portable console. I already own xperia play,I'll think I'll pass Sony S2(S1 is the normal type of tablets) and opt for Vita instead. I'm a trophy whore on a Playstation 3 system.
The Vita wont have any emulators until it can be cracked to run homebrew.
I think this is unlikely to happen until at least another 1-2 years.
Wait a second. The Vita better than the S1? S1 better than Vita? They are two so different devices and can't be compared!
- The Vita has a great hardware, yes, but if you don't want a console it will be a bit dumb to buy it.
- The S1 is a tablet witch is focused to multiple purposes (thanks to Android and his apps) but is not as powerful as the Vita.
So just think if you just want a super-handheld console just for gaming or a portable mini-computer-pda wich allows to do more things.
PS: yes, the Vita will have apps too, but we all know that it won't have the big variety that an Android OS based device has.
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xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
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Why is it not powerful enough? It runs any PS emulated game and any Android game perfectly fine....
In terms of graphics processing, the vita is in a diffrent league to the Tablet S and Tablet P. They both use the NVIDA Tegra II chipset. Although the Tegra II is a dual core chipset. It struggles to surpass the Adreno 205 GPU in the xperia play!
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Why is it not powerful enough?
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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Exactly. When I see posts like this I just don't get it, because if you play a game on it, and you play a game on something else, you're not going to see a difference! In fact it may even run better on the Play! And not one emulated game (that works) runs bad.
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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THANK YOU for clearing this misconception up!
Also Back on the Topic.
The main problem with Vita (as mentioned above) is that most of its potential will not be available to you until it is opened up (unlocked, cracked, jailbroken etc.).
You are likely going to be stuck only using what sony provides which will still be pretty darn good. Massive selection of psp games, ps1 classics, psn games... all at launch (since most of this stuff is already on psn).
Your best bet at emulating older systems up to the psx and playing mobile games is still the Xperia play. You get the convenience of it being a phone (among other things) as well as it being a great bang for your buck. This price just keeps dropping!
I'm sorry but any way you slice it the Xperia Play is an incredible value especially if you are a gamer. Just my opinion.
Let's see, what's better? A Phone, a Dualcore Tablet, or a dedicated gaming handheld that's not even out yet?
Apples, Oranges, and Bananas.
i will have all 3 lol, already have the play and tablet s.
X play for phone, emulators, jogging with runkeeper and music, control pad optimized games.
Tablet S for couch/coffee shop and in bed surfing/movie playback/reading and touch friendly games.
PS Vita as hardcore home console and portable games. Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
I had a go on the new sony tablet today in pcworld, very average to put it nicely!
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Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
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I'm 100% positive the Vita will not have Dual Shock support or TV out.
I think they're trying to make it less a competitor for the PS3 by doing that, while also nullifying the argument of "If I was going to play at home I'd use a REAL console" that I would always hear from 360 fanboys
If only gaming isn't it obvious the PS Vita is the way to go?
Comparing mangos, papayas and kumquats.
Each of those devices is designed to cater to specific needs.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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OnLive launched there app for android ages ago with the HTC Flyer. At the moment it's just a viewer though and you can't actually play anything This version works fine with the play
I found the Xperia Play plenty powerful in my review with great battery life
Hey guys I'm thinking about getting an iPod Touch so I can play the two Chaos Rings games on there and any other turn based rpgs which the xperia play lacks (emulators aside). So my question is, are there enough quality games exclusive to IOS to warrant me purchasing one for gaming? As I've said, I've already identified two good ones, the two chaos rings games.
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Hey guys I'm thinking about getting an iPod Touch so I can play the two Chaos Rings games on there and any other turn based rpgs which the xperia play lacks (emulators aside). So my question is, are there enough quality games exclusive to IOS to warrant me purchasing one for gaming? As I've said, I've already identified two good ones, the two chaos rings games.
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If your planning on getting an iPod Touch sololy for gaming, its not worth it. There aren't too many good games that are IOS exclusives.
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Gaming without hardware controls really sucks, IMO.
Why buy an ipod for gaming? it's a music player For the price of an ipod you can buy a ps2 and like 100 games with 10x the graphics of ios
Can't tell if trolling. iPod Touch gaming is horrid.
after all, Sony Ericsson's idea of bringing forth the Xperia PLAY is to eliminate the need for using [stupid] virtual sticks on screen that take up much of the gaming field..
Touch screen gaming most especially for FPS, RTS, and the like SUCKS. Live with that.
Yea bad idea. Why would you want to carry around two devices anyways? What did you get the Xperia Play for if you don't play it that often.
Always great to see some females on the forum. I say go for it little lady
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Always great to see some females on the forum. I say go for it little lady
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Lmao a female would not have gotten the play.....
If you have the money, go for it. But a ipod touch for gaming... Lmao
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hell yeah...
As an owner of both... I'd say getting an iPod Touch is actually a step back.
After having to deal with all those limitations and shortcomings that make touch-screen gaming so lame for so many genres, the Xperia PLAY was a godsend.
Chaos Rings was kind of disappointing to me. It had all that 'look' of a good Square-Enix game, but the actual content was mediocre. Eternal Legacy is way better... and even still, we just got solid confirmation that all those Square-Enix releases and more are coming to Android (Chaos Rings and it's sequel, Chrono Trigger, FF1/2, a revamped classic-style FF game and some brand new stuff), which sets them up to be rid of the control issues you get with touch-screen controls.
Now that I can split between both platforms, it's been seeming like a case where I'll get a game on iOS... but I only get to play it 'for real' when it gets released on Xperia PLAY with a better control scheme.
Try playing Meganoid on a touch-screen and you'll be immediately sent running back to Xperia PLAY.
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As an owner of both... I'd say getting an iPod Touch is actually a step back.
After having to deal with all those limitations and shortcomings that make touch-screen gaming so lame for so many genres, the Xperia PLAY was a godsend.
Chaos Rings was kind of disappointing to me. It had all that 'look' of a good Square-Enix game, but the actual content was mediocre. Eternal Legacy is way better... and even still, we just got solid confirmation that all those Square-Enix releases and more are coming to Android (Chaos Rings and it's sequel, Chrono Trigger, FF1/2, a revamped classic-style FF game and some brand new stuff), which sets them up to be rid of the control issues you get with touch-screen controls.
Now that I can split between both platforms, it's been seeming like a case where I'll get a game on iOS... but I only get to play it 'for real' when it gets released on Xperia PLAY with a better control scheme.
Try playing Meganoid on a touch-screen and you'll be immediately sent running back to Xperia PLAY.
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This
I just sold my iPod touch 4th gen.
I adhere to the main stream: once you've tried the good old pads and buttons, you simply will not enjoy complex games on your touch screen phone any longer.
Touch screen gaming even on tablet screen is way worse than with physical buttons on se xplay. So tiny ipod touch will be very frustrating. My daughter has one but she,s not into gaming. Touch screen games only will play similarly on ipod and xplay and i don't think there are so many exclusive touch screen games but this could be a factor you may consider, otherwise xplay screen is bigger. Hope it helps
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Looking forward to the day when i can hook the play up to tv, my ps3 gamepad to the play and have a true open console
I sold my IPod Touch to help cover the costs for my new Xperia Play.... no regrets.. at all.
TS, Hahaha.. The only perfect game that I played on my iDevices are Angry Birds & Solitaire..
The only reason you would do that is that it has more games to choose from.
I use both, iPhone 3gs as a phone and Xperia play with a data sim as a portable router and gaming device.
A lot more is available on the iPhone, although you can argue that its a lot more crap. The non gaming apps are the ones i cant live without, like pocketmoney [the android version has a lot less features]. Also, cross platform apps come out much sooner on Apple's platform.
I've just about given up gaming on the iphone since i got the Play, but the turn based strategies are great on the touch screen.
If i must game on the iPhone, i play
Battle for Westnoth
Civilization Revolutions
PuzzleQuest
100 Rogues
That Battle for Wesnoth, one of the flagships of open source gaming (and a great gamS) doesn't have an Android port is a bummer. I would donate for that cause.
How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...
No
Maybe the Xperia Play has not done too well in terms of good quality games released on the Games for Playstation or any other Xperia Play optimized games but it still has its pros. It's perfect for a guy like me who loves to play NES and SNES games with emulators or even PSOne games on FPSe.
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How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...
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Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !
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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !
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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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Yeah but a new gaming smartphone looks a million miles away unfortunately.
Miles Wolf said:
Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Your post is completely wrong. The device was supposed to be a gaming device. They promised us the PlayStation store and lots of PS titles but we never got them. Also if it wasn't supposed to be a gaming device then why did they even waste their money and time on a gamepad for the device. A device with PlayStation controls is a gaming device. Personally I like my play. Many games are out for it and are play optimized. So people saying there aren't many games for it need to search a little more. There is tons. And I haven't found another device with better sound than the play. Those stereo speaker have such a clear sound to it and have amazing bass. All other devices sound like they are being played underwater or sound like they are being played through a tin can. Yes SE scammed us all by not giving us what they said they would. And also the play had many games threat were play exclusives like minecraft and a few games from THD devices. If Sony were to keep up and give us what they said they were then maybe the device would've done better. If they brought more ps titles out then yes it would've done well even with outdated hardware which to me doesn't bother me in the slightest as there are very very very few games or apps that need a quad core with 1gig of ram. It's a phone not a laptop or pc. The Play is what you make of it. And mine is good as like what I have got. ICS not being given does not bother me in the slightest as ICS isn't all that great anyway. It lags because it's a RAM hog. And it's a juice drinker. GB runs better and uses less power as it isn't constantly trying to sort background processes out etc.....
Anyways that's my two cents or should I say two dollars
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God damn to many aspiring writer's on here. It's a first generation phone the one and only with physical pads. I'm thirty and hopefully will live another fifty years and ya its done. Technology is moving fast. Oh my God there will never be another phone with game pads. Look further into the future and not just a year or two ahead. I can't wait. Hopefully I can get a new liver in twenty because I drank my away.
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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.
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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.
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Amen, well said. I absolutely love my Xperia PLAY. Yeah it doesnt have the top of the line specs but who cares. This things rocks. I hate touchscreen controls. Absolutely hate them. However on my phone......awesome. Love it. Nuff said. Appreciate what you have and enjoy it.
Only God knows where the next PLAY, or PLAY-like device will come from. It could be Nintendo of all people, I mean they really don't have anything to lose. Either way, the PLAY, in my mind is falling short due to the fact that you can now use wireless gamepads on their tablets or phones, the PLAYs lack of HDMI compatibility, and other unnecessary features like HD sound, although HDMI should have been added to non-dev phones. So in other words the plays capabilities can be achieved by buying some additional accessories. So, unfortunately, I doubt that Sony alone will attempt to develop a PLAY 2, unless it turns into a last resort, as it is obviously not their biggest concern. I would try to keep som hope though.
I do agree that the play is the most supported phone when it comes to games like N.O.V.A., but as time passes, the hw gets a little more outdated, and after so long android 5.0 will come along, and gb will more or less be phased out by developers. Aside from that, it definitely rocks, especially when people look and ask "Woah, what is that?". Makes my day.
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Leraeniesh said:
Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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http://www.smartkeitai.com/microsoft-windows-phone-patent-with-interchangeable-keyboard-gamepad/
Microsoft could be our best hope
i'm still hoping to have new xperia play (( mybe by other name : xperia PSP , psp phone ... ))
i'm wondering , there is so many eager people that count the days and crossing finger for next (high-end) gameing phone , but sony still haven't plan on that .
i'm really in love with my beautiful xperia play , but i will it could be possible to change the CPU and RAM , like desktop , couse today , it's really out of date( H/W )
Portable emu.
On live.
Best in class GPS
Awesome android smartphone
720p camera and video
Game pad.
Low price in 2012
Who can ask for anything more?
Psp games? Who gives a crap because I sure don't.
Haters who own one there are few and mostly just forum trolls. How's your HDMI mehdi?
Hater who don't have one. Just jelly I got one and you don't. Oh look another head shot, ya man that's a play owner.
Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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DD-Ripper said:
Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !
i love the play.
it would have been perfect for me if it had launched with 1giga Rams and at least 2gb storage.
I'm kinda over the low RAM and will most likely upgrade to the hayabusa when it becomes available.
If Microsoft made a gaming phone..... It would dominate and blow away all competitors, even phones like the S3. But they don't even have a foot in the handheld battlefield YET. So it's probably not gonna happen for a long time. Xplay is cool and yeah people get bored of it quite easily. But I look at it as the stepping stone for much greater things ahead. Just hope I'll be alive and not have crazy arthritis or something to be able to enjoy it. Our kids are gonna have some crazy high tech stuff when we're all old and they'll take our places in these forums lol.
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We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !
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Then why you people buy touchscreen phones??
Whats wrong with qwerty keypad phones..? They have physical buttons.!
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