I have to say tonight was an evening full of surprises with my HD...
Came home, plugged it into USB, the Sync went normally, I uploaded a jpg file to the main memory and assigned it to a contact. Didn't really do anything else with the phone. It was laying next to the keyboard when I noticed it simply rebooted, without absolutely any action on my behalf.
Then it got to "smart mobility" screen and stood there for like 5 minutes. I figured out something wasn't right, so I unplugged it, tried to push some keys - nothing happened. Removed the battery and turned it on again.
The moment I saw Windows screen in green (had the black version ) I had a bad feeling. And I was right. I got into Windows setup, watched the system install itself, went through the configuration screens and ended up in a freshly hard-resetted Touch Flo 3D.
Everything reverted to factory state. The contacts were gone, the programs, the messages... Absolutely everything. Except for the SD card. Nothing was changed there, all the old data remained.
I'm very pissed off at the moment, because I finally got everything setup the way I wanted it
Has anyone had similar experiences and do you know what could have caused this??
The golden question:
Did/do you backup?
If yes, then good.
If not, learn to backup.
I/we backup on a daily basis. SPB Backup runs at 3am everyday and backsup everything on the main storage to the storage card and keeps the past 5 days worth of backups. This way, if a backup, say 2 days ago was corrupt, I can still restore to the 3rd day before. Select the "self-restoring" option as you can restore on the fly. While on vacation in Salzburg my phone suddenly became slow. So I hard reset (while in a cafe in the old town) and then restored to the day before (which was about 6 hours ago because it was 9am at the time). Problem SOLVED - on the fly.
Why it self hard resetted? Maybe some smart member will be able to figure out why, Im guessing "**** happens" happened.
Didn't have backup :/
I was actually just yesterday going to check some backup software, but I guess I remembered it a day too late
Still, no big damage. Contacts were backed up via Active Sync, as well as My documents, I just lost the stored SMS and MMS stuff (actually, it's a shame for MMS, had some nice nude photos of a very busty girl there
My biggest concern is why did it happen. I just can't seem to figure it out. I didn't do anything with the phone at all, didn't install any new software, didn't change any system settings... I'm just confused.
For quickies purposes, use PPC PIM Backup by DotFred. Its free but worth hundreds asit backs up your PIM info (contacts, sms, mail, tasks,appointments, speed dials).
I know I'm not alone with this and I think it's getting ignored because most people don't have the problem.
Even after the MR, I'm still having 100% Awake problems.
Yesterday I did the following.
1. Flashed back to stock rom.
2. Allowed the phone to perform the OTA MR update
3. Updated PRL and Profile.
4. Rooted phone using asroot2 process.
5. Installed Optimized/Zipaligned Apps found in this forum.
I then installed a random selection of my preferred apps. I did not log into any of the social networks on the phone itself. Facebook, Twidroid, Peep, Seemic are all on the phone but either not logged into or not set to update automatically. GPS is on, bt and wifi are not.
The only widgets I'm running is the normal clock/weather, big calendar, music player, and gps/wifi/bt toggles. Everything else is shortcuts and such. I'm using Gmail app for my mail, the stock messaging app for sms, and the stock browser. I'm syncing with Google for mail, contacts, and calendar. I have no other email accounts set up.
This was the 3rd time going through this process. The phone lasts roughly 24 hours with great low awake times, then suddenly starts climbing. A reboot will of course reset it so it shows 100% awake.
Things I've tried.
Installed Spare Parts and sorted by all sorts of things. Android System seems to be the biggest offender. Real vague.
Installed the Terminal app and tried to run top. Nothing seems to be taking up an abnormal amount of CPU but I don't know how accurate this thing is.
Obviously I've tried this 3 times and attempted to keep all widgets and other things that constantly update away from use but it doesn't stop.
I have shied away from task killers seeing how that's the normal reaction in this forum, that they're bad and I'm not sure they are a good idea.
My buddy has the exact same phone, way more widgets and things running, and his has been running for days without ever going over 25% Awake. We've went through all of our setting and installed apps and widgets etc, and cannot find a good reason for this.
I'm hoping to get some recognition for the problem. Maybe if others have the problem, we can try to see if we can come up with a fix.
Suggestions
Check the apps you have installed, some of the ones i liked say they 'keep the phone from sleeping' during installing. Just because you aren't running an app doesn't mean it's not running in the background. I would suggest you uninstall ALL external apps and test your phone for 24 hours after a full charge and see if that is the problem.
Another problem i had was i never gave my battery the proper charge when i bought the phone. I got much better performance from my batter by running it down to where it would not turn on then completely charged it without interruption. I repeated this 3 times in a row and my battery lasts much longer now.
I would also suggest to flash your phone with the fresh ROM .6b After doing this my phone was amazingly fast and excellent sleep times.
Currently Pulled Status:
After 48:15:00 Up Time Only Awake Time 13:01:00 (27%)
I'm aware of that app thing but I will say that I haven't installed any apps to speak of today. The only thing I installed today was a widget for turning the ringer off but I uninstalled that. Of course, that *could* be the problem.
Other than that, I haven't installed any apps today so you'd think that anything that would cause 100% Awake would have happened yesterday as well. Granted, that's an assumption and something best proven so tonight I will flash to stock + the OTA MR and leave it alone. We'll see if the phone with zero apps installed in basically stock form flips to 100% awake tomorrow or not.
I tried Fresh yesterday and it made no difference. Granted, I put it on top of a phone that already was at 100% Awake but still. I also don't care for what's installed/removed on the rom either. I would love to have my stock rom + rooted + removed apps + optimized apps and call it a day. I can hope right?
I was having the same problem as you...
I did a factory data reset after I applied the MR.
Then rooted
Then installed fresh .6
my phone has been sleeping like a baby ever since (over 1 week now).
Hope that helps...
andybars said:
I was having the same problem as you...
I did a factory data reset after I applied the MR.
Then rooted
Then installed fresh .6
my phone has been sleeping like a baby ever since (over 1 week now).
Hope that helps...
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I tried Fresh .6b but it didn't help. Granted, I applied it after the 100% awake problem hit. I don't really care for Fresh though.. but I might try it after I do a few experiments.
Bah.. I gave up on the experiment idea and went ahead and did this.
Flashed to stock
OTA MR upgrade
Rooted
Flashed Fresh .06 ROM
Flashed Optimized/Zipaligned apps
Only apps installed are Seesmic, SMS Backup & Restore, and Call Logs Backup & Restore.
I will leave it at that for now. It will get a full charge tonight and hopefully I'll see more than a 24 hour run of good idle time.
I can say that sms problem is also persists.
And i found out that i have SMS problem only when there is 0 in incoming number. If sender have number without ZERO - it works just fine.
Nice fix from sprint -) I think they do not test it at all
kajama said:
I can say that sms problem is also persists.
And i found out that i have SMS problem only when there is 0 in incoming number. If sender have number without ZERO - it works just fine.
Nice fix from sprint -) I think they do not test it at all
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I am running the MR + rooted, and have *NO* issues whatsoever with texting... and I have sent and received plenty of messages to/from people with a zero in their phone number.
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I am running the MR + rooted, and have *NO* issues whatsoever with texting... and I have sent and received plenty of messages to/from people with a zero in their phone number.
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Could be a total coincidence but I was texting someone with a zero in their number when my awake time started climbing. But I had also been texting all morning with another person with a zero in their number and it waited until around 3:30 to start acting up.
sph33r said:
I will leave it at that for now. It will get a full charge tonight and hopefully I'll see more than a 24 hour run of good idle time.
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make sure you look for the following
settings>applications>deveolopment
(uncheck stay awake)
if this is checked, your phone WILL NOT SLEEP when plugged in.
to avoid any silliness make you check the awake time when it is NOT plugged in.
...Just sayin
x99percent said:
I am running the MR + rooted, and have *NO* issues whatsoever with texting... and I have sent and received plenty of messages to/from people with a zero in their phone number.
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I have this problem on 2 updated Hero.
kajama said:
I have this problem on 2 updated Hero.
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What problem? I said I had no problems..?
x99percent said:
What problem? I said I had no problems..?
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I understood your message, but i STILL have SMS problem on 2 HERO after MR update. Thats a pitty
Well folks, I thought I had the problem licked but last night it came back. On Monday morning, I did the following:
1) RUU back to stock
2) applied voice mail and MR update
3) rooted phone and applied optimized apk & clear screen mod
It was working so well until last night when I was playing with the wireless and wired tether apps. After I *uninstalled* those apps, the phone would not go back to sleep. I'm getting sick of this but will not be resetting my phone. Hopefully an update will come out soon to resolve this.
Yesterday I decided I didn't care for the Fresh .6 rom and went back to my experiment idea.
I flashed the stock RUU back onto it, let it do the OTA update for the firmware, and then installed only Handcent and Seesmic to keep from using the stock SMS/twitter clients just in case.
I signed into Google for my Gmail, contacts, and calendar and left all the update settings alone. I turned on GPS satellites, and I signed into the Facebook integration on the phone so I could get the photos/bdays/status updates in People.
That's all I did. No rooting, no additions, nothing. I removed all widgets except for the clock/weather and the big calendar. Everything else was deleted, I only have the 6 shortcuts on the first home screen.
I went to bed with between 1:15-1:30 awake time. I woke to 4:45 wake time and climbing. Sometime around 5am it stopped being idle and is now climbing steadily toward 100% awake time. Obviously I wasn't using the phone, I received no phone calls or text messages, and it was charging.
This is frustrating.
sph33r said:
Yesterday I decided I didn't care for the Fresh .6 rom and went back to my experiment idea.
I flashed the stock RUU back onto it, let it do the OTA update for the firmware, and then installed only Handcent and Seesmic to keep from using the stock SMS/twitter clients just in case.
I signed into Google for my Gmail, contacts, and calendar and left all the update settings alone. I turned on GPS satellites, and I signed into the Facebook integration on the phone so I could get the photos/bdays/status updates in People.
That's all I did. No rooting, no additions, nothing. I removed all widgets except for the clock/weather and the big calendar. Everything else was deleted, I only have the 6 shortcuts on the first home screen.
I went to bed with between 1:15-1:30 awake time. I woke to 4:45 wake time and climbing. Sometime around 5am it stopped being idle and is now climbing steadily toward 100% awake time. Obviously I wasn't using the phone, I received no phone calls or text messages, and it was charging.
This is frustrating.
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did you just totally ignore my post or what?
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did you just totally ignore my post or what?
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Yes I ignored it because it did not pertain to the issue at hand. If you had read my entire post, you would see that it had, on all previous times, went from idle to 100% awake while off the charger. Last night was the first time it ever went awake in the middle of the night and it only happened 3 hours before I woke up meaning that it had been on the charger for 5 hours previous without being awake.
Also, that option isn't even checked by default. The only way it would be checked is if you were too stupid to read the text next to it. Needless to say, mine is not checked.
So no, never once in the time of having his phone has that setting been turned on. This issue is not related to your post in the least.
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Yes I ignored it because it did not pertain to the issue at hand. If you had read my entire post, you would see that it had, on all previous times, went from idle to 100% awake while off the charger. Last night was the first time it ever went awake in the middle of the night and it only happened 3 hours before I woke up meaning that it had been on the charger for 5 hours previous without being awake.
Also, that option isn't even checked by default. The only way it would be checked is if you were too stupid to read the text next to it. Needless to say, mine is not checked.
So no, never once in the time of having his phone has that setting been turned on. This issue is not related to your post in the least.
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well just for ****s and grins.... retest with it not being plugged in. just to rule out even the remote possibility of that being the issue.
EDIT: also if you are really hard set on figureing out what is causeing it do a stock RUU, then update it.... then don't touch it... at all, no market apps, no enableing anything.... then test
if good, then add a variable.... use scientific method of figureing out what is wrong. Don't just test with a random set of variables and hoping someone might guess at what might be the issue.
from the information you gave.... my money is on the charger causeing it. I may be just totally wrong, but my track record is being right most of the time with this type of troubleshooting.... but if you want a second opinoin... by all means... and a tip of the hat to you sir
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from the information you gave.... my money is on the charger causeing it. I may be just totally wrong, but my track record is being right most of the time with this type of troubleshooting.... but if you want a second opinoin... by all means... and a tip of the hat to you sir
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I'd say you're wrong because I'm not experiencing the issue at all.
Since the OP's phone and my own are similarly modded, I'm thinking that it has something to do with his own personal info (contacts, calendar, etc.)... because I have NO issues.
I use HTC Peep to update/view Twitter.
I use Handcent for SMS/MMS.
In contrast to the OP's phone, my phone has a ton of stuff installed (25 free apps from the Market, last I checked)... yet my awake times are consistently <30%.
johnsongrantr said:
well just for ****s and grins.... retest with it not being plugged in. just to rule out even the remote possibility of that being the issue.
EDIT: also if you are really hard set on figureing out what is causeing it do a stock RUU, then update it.... then don't touch it... at all, no market apps, no enableing anything.... then test
if good, then add a variable.... use scientific method of figureing out what is wrong. Don't just test with a random set of variables and hoping someone might guess at what might be the issue.
from the information you gave.... my money is on the charger causeing it. I may be just totally wrong, but my track record is being right most of the time with this type of troubleshooting.... but if you want a second opinoin... by all means... and a tip of the hat to you sir
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Except, again.. of the 4 times I've reloaded this and had the 100% awake time, only once has it happened on the charger. So I find that theory a bit weak. I suppose it could be, but still.. seems a bit odd that, for instance, it would wait until 3:30 in the afternoon (7 + hours after coming off the charger) to act up.
I'm currently stock + 2 apps which should eliminate the supposed leak with the SMS that some people still claim is happening. But I will flash the stock RUU and then the OTA MR and leave it alone. I'm still going to use the functions of the phone though. I see no reason why syncing with Google or facebook or using peep should matter since those are on the phone from the get-go and intended to be used. I'm sure everyone on here who has no problems at all has a lot more things turned on than I do right now.
For instance, X99Percent and I have compared settings. He has WAY more widgets running, WAY more programs installed, and is signed into all the social networks. Yet he can use his phone for days with normal idle time. I might make it 24 hours, or in the case of yesterday, about 14 hours, before going to 100% awake.
I'm convinced it has a lot more to do with something wrong with the phone itself or a software bug than anything else. And if you notice, I'm not alone in this problem, there's others complaining about it on here and on PPCGeeks.
I have searched for some hours now without finding an answer anywhere so i thought i might try here since there are obviously alot ppl here with far more knowledge about android than me :b
Whenever i receive a notification for either an sms or a mail through the Gmail app unless i remove it the phone wont go to sleep, the screen stays off but it drains battery like crazy.
I loose about 2% battery overnight if nothing happens, but if i receive a sms or mail during the night it has dropped about 50% by the time i wake up.
Is there any way to fix this or will i have to turn off sync?
I might have solved the sms drain by disabling the notifications for the stock sms app and using the Go Sms Pro instead.
It seems to work but i havent really tried it long enough to make a conclusion.
Is it an issue with android or some specific roms, or maybe even the phone itself?
Cause i´ve seen others post about the same problem but no one seems to find a solution.
I´m using Swedish Spring RLS5 atm but i really dont think its rom specific.
Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction
Well i dont know if your rom is overcloked,many times by receving a sms or a phone call may trigger some battery drain on your device,some oc kernels are a bit unstable
Tips ,well you could get a app manager with auto.kill even if youre device is sleep mode and you get a notification it will kill the process,use launcher pro,many launcher's out there, the way wich they interact with the system it self may cause baterry drain, so take these tips in mind,try and use other roms and see what happens
Recently I've ad this problem where whatsapp sometimes enters some kind of idle mode and then it doesn't check for new messages for a long time unless I enter the app myself. Sometimes it's fine and sometimes it just does this...
I've recently deleted a few things which I hoped were bloatware, hopefully this hasn't affected the situation.
Any help appreciated.
I had this issue..
I did factory data reset and then its fixed..
But if you try then back up first..
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What does factory reset actually reset? Do I lose any apps/data? I'm not sure if it's a full phone reset or..
frrlod said:
What does factory reset actually reset? Do I lose any apps/data? I'm not sure if it's a full phone reset or..
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Factory reset will clean your os..
All bad files will go, your phone will clean from all errors, like new phone..
Yes, you will loose your phone memory include all apps, sms, related to phone memory..
So, better to backup first is necessary..
U can backup apps by app called "app backup and restore" from playstore, it will targer all apps to external sd card and will save..
But for big data app like asphalt or any downloaded big data game, you need to backup manually, go to settings then application, then select sd card tab, then backup..
Or manually method for save big data apps, go to file manager then select phone memory then select the folder "android" then see data folder then backup which file you want..
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There's already been a long discussion on this in another thread. A simple search would have helped you find it. This issue is mostly seen when you're using wifi rather than mobile data, and I've noticed it on multiple phones, not just the S4. It seems more like a whatsapp issue than the phone's issue.
frrlod said:
Recently I've ad this problem where whatsapp sometimes enters some kind of idle mode and then it doesn't check for new messages for a long time unless I enter the app myself. Sometimes it's fine and sometimes it just does this...
I've recently deleted a few things which I hoped were bloatware, hopefully this hasn't affected the situation.
Any help appreciated.
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Are you using Greenify or some other tool to freeze/hibernate apps.
This happened to me when I Greenify whatsapp app.
I notice that my phone gets notifications, whether it be Whatsapp or email, faster when I'm on 4G (Telstra, for those in Australia) vs wifi. Push notifications come almost instantly when on 4G. When on wifi (thats wireless N, connected to a 100mbps down 2mbps up cable connection) notifications can be delayed by up to a minute.
Previously when I was with a worse carrier (Vodafone AU) notifications on 3G (they only had 3G) would be significantly delayed and wifi was superior.
So my conclusion is that the network you're connected to determines whether or not notifications are delayed. However, I'd like to know why my 4G is superior to wifi, hope someone with more technical knowledge can chime in.