Hello
How to use secure folder with Knox 0x1 ?
It there any way to do this ?
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locarno said:
Hello
How to use secure folder with Knox 0x1 ?
It there any way to do this ?
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Once your Knox is tripped you can not use secure folder. There is no fix for a tripped Knox.
Is it possible to mask the 0x1 to make Knox and Samsung Pay work?
WilliamBlake said:
Is it possible to mask the 0x1 to make Knox and Samsung Pay work?
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Yes MagiskHide masks the 0x1 Value to 0x0 and it might work to use some of the features that check for the Knox counter value.
0. You need to be rooted with the latest version of Magisk.
1. You need to change the name of the Magisk Manager app to a different name using the "Hide Magisk Manager" function.
2. Turn on MagiskHide in settings and check Samsung pay and Secure folder (And all the apps that help them run like Samsung pay framework etc.) in the MagiskHide tab.
3. Delete any files in your internal storage that have Magisk in the name.
4. (Optional) If you dont want to be rooted you can also disable Superuser access within the Magisk Manager App.
Edit: You may also have to enable "Magisk Core Only Mode" so that no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect.
This is not 100% guarenteed to work but it is worth a try as it is close as you are going to get to knox 0x0.
JJcoder said:
Yes MagiskHide masks the 0x1 Value to 0x0 and it might work to use some of the features that check for the Knox counter value.
0. You need to be rooted with the latest version of Magisk.
1. You need to change the name of the Magisk Manager app to a different name using the "Hide Magisk Manager" function.
2. Turn on MagiskHide in settings and check Samsung pay and Secure folder (And all the apps that help them run like Samsung pay framework etc.) in the MagiskHide tab.
3. Delete any files in your internal storage that have Magisk in the name.
4. (Optional) If you dont want to be rooted you can also disable Superuser access within the Magisk Manager App.
This is not 100% guarenteed to work but it is worth a try as it is close as you are going to get to knox 0x0.
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Once Knox is tripped it triggers an Efuse, that can only be fixed by a motherboard replacement. Samsung Pay will never work once Knox has been tripped.
stonedpsycho said:
Once Knox is tripped it triggers an Efuse, that can only be fixed by a motherboard replacement. Samsung Pay will never work once Knox has been tripped.
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I know, but MagiskHide masks the value to 0x0.
JJcoder said:
I know, but MagiskHide masks the value to 0x0
on boot.
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That will not make Samsung Pay work.
stonedpsycho said:
That will not make Samsung Pay work.
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Are you sure? Maybe if you just enable MagiskHide it wont work; but if you follow all of my steps how can Samsung pay detect Knox 0x1 and root? Maybe you have to reinstall Samsung Pay? I am still on the 7 day jail (RMM state lock) on my S8 so I can't experiment with it right now.
JJcoder said:
Are you sure? Maybe if you just enable MagiskHide it wont work; but if you follow all of my steps how can Samsung pay detect Knox 0x1 and root? Maybe you have to reinstall Samsung Pay? I am still on the 7 day jail (RMM state lock) on my S8 so I can't experiment with it right now.
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It will not fix the Efuse though.
stonedpsycho said:
It will not fix the Efuse though.
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You are right! I'm not trying to revert the eFUSE that
is not possible. I am trying to mask the value so that Samsung Pay and other apps will think that Knox is 0x0 and that the phone is not rooted. My question is
how can Samsung Pay detect Knox 0x1 even when following all of the steps I listed above while all of the Knox Status apps on the Play Store say 0x0 while simply enabling MagiskHide and checking the app in the MagiskHide tab?
JJcoder said:
You are right! I'm not trying to revert the eFUSE that
is not possible. I am trying to mask the value so that Samsung Pay and other apps will think that Knox is 0x0 and that the phone is not rooted. My question is
how can Samsung Pay detect Knox 0x1 even when following all of the steps I listed above while all of the Knox Status apps on the Play Store say 0x0 while simply enabling MagiskHide and checking the app in the MagiskHide tab?
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I am no expert and don't understand how it all works but if there was a way or workaround for Samsung Pay to work I think the talented Devs here on XDA would have found a solution by now, like one did for Secure Folder.
stonedpsycho said:
I am no expert and don't understand how it all works but if there was a way or workaround for Samsung Pay to work I think the talented Devs here on XDA would have found a solution by now, like one did for Secure Folder.
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Did anyone actually try following the steps I listed? Maybe you also have to enable Magisk Core only mode so no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect? If that doesn't work then what about reinstalling Samsung Pay and it's framework after following these steps?
As I said I wish I could try myself but I am still in RMM state: Prenormal
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Did anyone actually try following the steps I listed? Maybe you also have to enable Magisk Core only mode so no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect? If that doesn't work then what about reinstalling Samsung Pay and it's framework after following these steps?
As I said I wish I could try myself but I am still in RMM state: Prenormal
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I have never tried that but I highly doubt it will work still.
Jail time! You tried the trick of moving the clock forward 7+ days?
stonedpsycho said:
I have never tried that but I highly doubt it will work still.
Jail time! You tried the trick of moving the clock forward 7+ days?
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Yes, but it didn't work for me (because I think it only works on Oreo and im on Pie)
So I just have to wait 7 days.
JJcoder said:
Yes, but it didn't work for me (because I think it only works on Oreo and im on Pie)
So I just have to wait 7 days.
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I know it can be hit and miss and can take a few attempts, probably worth another try. I only faced jail time on Oreo, but I use a Note 8.
If you do get Spay to work though, please let us know as so many people will be very happy with you :fingers-crossed:
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I know it can be hit and miss and can take a few attempts, probably worth another try. I only faced jail time on Oreo, but I use a Note 8.
If you do get Spay to work though, please let us know as so many people will be very happy with you :fingers-crossed:
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Well im already on my third day and if the date trick doesn't work then i'll have to start all over again.
As yes I will let everyone know if I can get Samsung Pay to work
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Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance
Please do us a favor and put a question mark after your thread title. It appears as if you are showing us how to do it.
There is no way to remove Knox.
Han Solo 1 said:
Please do us a favor and put a question mark after your thread title. It appears as if you are showing us how to do it.
There is no way to remove Knox.
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Apologies, it was a typo.
Dam okay, thanks
Mikrouwel said:
Apologies, it was a typo.
Dam okay, thanks
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lol
Didn't mean to offend you bro. But there is no way to disable Knox without unlocking the bootloader first, at least that's what I've read online.
Han Solo 1 said:
lol
Didn't mean to offend you bro. But there is no way to disable Knox without unlocking the bootloader first, at least that's what I've read online.
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Okay thanks
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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n1 didnt see that uninstalled now
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white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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But will this also prevent knox from stopping applications trying to modify system files?
white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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The uninstall button on my menu is greyed out
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mine was to but then I pressed the info or about button and its there
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I'm installing again, see what happens....
EDIT...
After installing Knox is active.
So, Hit the menu button, Than "Knox settings", and than "About Knox".
There is a Delete button.
I have no problem deleting for the second time.
But will this also prevent knox from stopping applications trying to modify system files?
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I don't think so.
I gess it's two different things, the Knox app, and besides that the safety settings in the firmware Samsung made.
Even if you don't install Knox, your Knox counter will raise if you Root your phone or if you Flash it.
Mikrouwel said:
The uninstall button on my menu is greyed out
Sent from my Note 3 using Tapatalk
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You might need to uncheck Knox under settings>general>security>device administrators before you can uninstall it.
I think this will only remove the interface to Knox though, as I believe the implementation is very low level.
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So theres no way to reset the count like it has been done on note 2 with using triangle away. But thats a rooted app so are you speaking on US or Int'l note 3. Trying to understand more about knox before I purchase my note 3 instore tomorrow. Searched online and is the knox a security app? Do you have to activate it or is it free will? Please anyone explain thanks.
*Note 3*
white-note said:
I installed Knox also, and uninstalled it later without any problem.
Just log in in Knox, hit the menu button and hit uninstall.
It will uninstall Knox with every program installed with it.
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Thanks!!!!!
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Mikrouwel said:
Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance
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Solved jus hit 20 time wrong passwordd n knox will delete n unintall itself
Uninstall
Mikrouwel said:
Hey guys,
I am feeling like a total noob and am getting rather frustrated so please could somebody help me. I install this Samsung Knox app ting when I first got my Note 3 (N9005 - Non Rooted) and now I want it gone. I Do not know how to get rid of it and would be grateful if somebody showed me how.
I have tried googling and searching xda but found nothing
Many thanks in advance
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Go to the knox mode, and then go to knox setting by pressing the menu button. There you will find the ABOUT button. Click on that button, there you will find uninstall button.
Thanks
skally said:
You might need to uncheck Knox under settings>general>security>device administrators before you can uninstall it.
I think this will only remove the interface to Knox though, as I believe the implementation is very low level.
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It wont let me do this. You can "uninstall" Knox and get it back to how it was before setup (knox partition removed, back to having to install it again to re-knox), but you cannot AFAICT uninstall it completely, because its setup as a device administrator. You also cannot stop it being a device admin, even if its unticked, application manager wont uninstall as its device admin.
I wouldnt mind, but the knox process (as shown by CPU timelines pro) uses 10% of CPU power 24/7, which seems a bit naff when im not even using it. Im unsure if thats 10% of the current CPU speed (which might be virtually sleeping), or 10% max...
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yes, you can uninstall knox
Knox is a security feature which Samsung has created for Android versions 4.3 onwards,
It is a very clever mechanism, by which Samsung are hoping to grab the Mobile Device Management market from blackberry. As businesses are trying to get used to the Bring Your Own Device world we live in, there has increasingly been a call for device management, i.e that a business i.t administrator can control the data-flow and policy of all devices.
Knox, installs as a container, it is basically a second phone, with separate media, homescreens, email, apps etc, so that on your personal phone you can have a secure section for work or private matters.
It is optional to install, and to uninstall you have to go into Knox itself, hit menu, settings, about knox, uninstall.
enjoy.
If I don't install knox (dont have my phone yet) then I still get flagged when I root? Or do you only get flagged when knox is installed?
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efjbdejong said:
If I don't install knox (dont have my phone yet) then I still get flagged when I root? Or do you only get flagged when knox is installed?
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You will get the Knox 0x1 flag if you don't use a save way to root the phone. It doesn't matter if you activate the Knox feature.
Has anyone been able to get theSamsung media video hub working on a rooted device? My status shows custom and mine wont sign in. It also shows a message that my licenses have expired on videos I downloaded before rooting
Duly.noted said:
Has anyone been able to get theSamsung media video hub working on a rooted device? My status shows custom and mine wont sign in. It also shows a message that my licenses have expired on videos I downloaded before rooting
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Are you Knox 0x0 or 0x1?
xclub_101 said:
Are you Knox 0x0 or 0x1?
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Knox ox I do know that after flashing a stock firmware and recovery that it worked at that point. Had knox 0x1 and downloaded a good day to die hard. I'm thinking that my binary showing custom is what is causing the issue because I KNOW knox was tripped already then. So maybe a way to make the system think my recovery is stock?
thaanx
Hy,i recently root my samsung note 3 sn9005 and after that i see KNOX it wasnt work annymore,i can open the aplication,the loading screen apper but then sudenly it just close...anyone know how to fix this?
VaRyOss said:
Hy,i recently root my samsung note 3 sn9005 and after that i see KNOX it wasnt work annymore,i can open the aplication,the loading screen apper but then sudenly it just close...anyone know how to fix this?
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Reflashing stock rom and without root your device again.
VaRyOss said:
Hy,i recently root my samsung note 3 sn9005 and after that i see KNOX it wasnt work annymore,i can open the aplication,the loading screen apper but then sudenly it just close...anyone know how to fix this?
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Wow
VaRyOss said:
Hy,i recently root my samsung note 3 sn9005 and after that i see KNOX it wasnt work annymore,i can open the aplication,the loading screen apper but then sudenly it just close...anyone know how to fix this?
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Deroot your device and flash stock rom..... try and post your feedback here
Joku1981 said:
Reflashing stock rom and without root your device again.
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more instructions please,how to reflashing ?
VaRyOss said:
more instructions please,how to reflashing ?
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You can easily search on the q&a section on how to reflash your phone. But if you don't know how to do that, I suggest you read a LOT before you attempt to reflash.
Your original post shows that you have absolutely NO idea about how to do anything to your phone and keep it in a working state, or what any modification implies.
If you lost knox, there is absolutely NO way to get it back. Reflashing to stock will have NO impact on the state of the knox. If the knox flag is triggered, then your knox apps have stoppped functioning and, like I said before, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to reverse that.
I really don't know why the others told you to reflash to stock. I thought it was general knowledge that once you lose knox, it cannot be reversed and you also lose the knox apps.
I know i repeated myself a couple of times, but with your kind of people, repetition is the only way to make oneself understood.
Good luck dude!
VaRyOss said:
Hy,i recently root my samsung note 3 sn9005 and after that i see KNOX it wasnt work annymore,i can open the aplication,the loading screen apper but then sudenly it just close...anyone know how to fix this?
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To my knowledge every Root related thread mentions, very explicitly, that rooting prevents you from using the KNOX app.
Which makes perfect sense, since KNOX is a security container meant for storing secure data. Once you root, no part of the device is truly safe from tampering.
Once the KNOX flag is 0x1, The KNOX app is disabled and can not be restored. If you want to use KNOX, I'm afraid you'll have to buy a new device. The 0x1 flag can't be reset.
ShadowLea said:
To my knowledge every Root related thread mentions, very explicitly, that rooting prevents you from using the KNOX app.
Which makes perfect sense, since KNOX is a security container meant for storing secure data. Once you root, no part of the device is truly safe from tampering.
Once the KNOX flag is 0x1, The KNOX app is disabled and can not be restored. If you want to use KNOX, I'm afraid you'll have to buy a new device. The 0x1 flag can't be reset.
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uhmm....k..i understand that. there is another app. similar to KNOX?
i find a app. in magazin play called "Knoxx",work's close anought for me. For people who want to know is the one with a yellow K
I am planning on rooting my S8, but my main concern is that I will not be able to use apps like Secure Folder. Is there a way to still use those apps when I have rooted my S8? I don't really care about my warranty or tripping knox.
After you root you wont be able to use any of the following
1)Samsung Pay
2)S-Health
3)Samsung Pass
4)Secure Folder
and after you root the Knox E-Fuse will be tripped
but their are work arounds for the following
1)S-Health
2) Samsung Pass
witch is to install a custom rom i have installed
ALEXISROM_5.6.1
Rayan599 said:
After you root you wont be able to use any of the following
1)Samsung Pay
2)S-Health
3)Samsung Pass
4)Secure Folder
and after you root the Knox E-Fuse will be tripped
but their are work arounds for the following
1)S-Health
2) Samsung Pass
witch is to install a custom rom i have installed
ALEXISROM_5.6.1
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That's unfortunate. I assume that even if I unroot, secure folder won't work?
Rakesh37187 said:
That's unfortunate. I assume that even if I unroot, secure folder won't work?
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It won't work
I've used the batman ? rom and still had secure folder ?
That was on a galaxy s7 edge with a ported s8 rom tho.
Never felt the need to root my s8.
I believe that you could flash the Superstock Kernel and then install Secure Folder from APKMirror or a similar site on the S7. Not sure if it would work on the S8.
so i have galaxy s10+ sm-g975F
i rooted the phone then i flash the last firmware G975FXXUFHVG4 to relock the bootloader and get fresh clean software
so here is the issues samsung pass keep detecting the device was rooted
the second package disabler owner app cannot sit as an admin anymore giving me java errors
i flash other firmware i keep getting the same issue
i email package disabler pro asking them what the issue they give me no answer
how i can totally get rid of all the root files on my phone
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Simple, once you root, you lose KNOX forever.
Pass, Secure Folder need KNOX.
You can unroot by just flashing the latest firmware with Odin. But KNOX related stuff, that's bye bye forever.
PlutoDelic said:
Simple, once you root, you lose KNOX forever.
Pass, Secure Folder need KNOX.
You can unroot by just flashing the latest firmware with Odin. But KNOX related stuff, that's bye bye forever.
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ic i really dont care about knox package disabler all what i care about
i remove the unwanted bloatware using adb command
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ic i really dont care about knox package disabler all what i care about
i remove the unwanted bloatware using adb command
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Just so we dont get confused here.
When i say KNOX, i don't mean any sort of package disabler, i mean the KNOX security system inside Samsung phones. It's an eFuse that gets tripped once you root, and it's impossible to revert back.
Some Samsung services such as Secure Folder, Samsung Pass, WILL NEVER work even if you flash the latest official rom.
Now, if you want my two cents, debloating used to work, but not as much anymore, of course i may stand corrected, but i tested it myself without any difference in results.
Why dont you make use of the Deep Sleep listing in Device care, that way you limit an app from waking up unless you actually want too. Of course, im assuming this is all for battery gains.