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With all the speculation on the Snapdragon 810 breathing fire and the Lg G4's 808 subjected to throttling (as evident in the Asus ZF2 Vs Lg G4 video from Lb s on YouTube) I hope that the statements made by the Asus bigwigs to switch to SD from Intel Atom are back tracked and even Intel should continue with the ZF2 as a prime example for its performance where others are quite simply failing to deliver for the sky high price being asked!
your thoughts!?
SBFarooq said:
With all the speculation on the Snapdragon 810 breathing fire and the Lg G4's 808 subjected to throttling (as evident in the Asus ZF2 Vs Lg G4 video from Lb s on YouTube) I hope that the statements made by the Asus bigwigs to switch to SD from Intel Atom are back tracked and even Intel should continue with the ZF2 as a prime example for its performance where others are quite simply failing to deliver for the sky high price being asked!
your thoughts!?
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I think i've watched an interview before where ASUS said they will make the next model packed w/ SD. Not so sure since I cant quite remember where I watched the video interview.
MrKoji said:
I think i've watched an interview before where ASUS said they will make the next model packed w/ SD. Not so sure since I cant quite remember where I watched the video interview.
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I know about that interview and it is exactly my point, they shouldn't, I mean with all the evidence now pointing towards the dragon why tinker with something which isn't requiring a fix?
Hmmm a switch from Intel to SD 810 (as mentioned here) wouldn't be useful. Let's think about: All devices with SD 810 or 808 are in the highend category. Prices around 600 bucks and upwards.
We shouldn't forget that an ZenFone 2 is still midrange (regarding the price). So as long as ASUS isn't going for an high-end device, there is no need for an such a pricey SOC .
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Hmmm a switch from Intel to SD 810 (as mentioned here) wouldn't be useful. Let's think about: All devices with SD 810 or 808 are in the highend category. Prices around 600 bucks and upwards.
We shouldn't forget that an ZenFone 2 is still midrange (regarding the price). So as long as ASUS isn't going for an high-end device, there is no need for an such a pricey SOC .
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the soc actually makes up a fraction of the total phone cost.. so a switch probably wouldnt necessarily result in the phone price increasing by that much (just take a look at xiaomi)
that aside.. the S810 is seriously a disappointment this time around.. and it would make sense for asus to stick to the atom for this generation
It surly is just a small amount of the price. But it is not a question of material costs. It's a dicision how to enter a special market segment. And that would be the high end class.
Even Xiaomi isn't cheap here in Europe. If you purchase the Mi Note Pro at the moment at a reliable shop and paying normal taxes, we are talking about 650 Euros. Galaxy S6 is here 730 (64GB) or 600 (32GB)...LG G4 for 650Euros. The M9 goes for 550 Euros.
There would be no need for ASUS aiming at price below 550 Euros due to not enough competition in this segment.
And that 550 Euros are nearly twice as much I have payed for my ZenFone 2.
The only manufacturer showing us how you could possibly go below that point is OnePlus. But I really don't want to wait on somebody who is kind enough to give me at least an invite to buy a phone...
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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True story. If i wouldn't say that price / value are well balencend on this device, i wouldn't have switched from my Note 4 (and earning money for using a phone for 3 months )
I think they will be capable to deliver a "new" ZenFone 2, whitch is able to outperform this generation in a year. At the same price range. We will have the a new generation of SOCs, camera sensors... and so on. And there will still be a "midrange" or the "old" high end. The only question is: Is ASUS willing to to do so?
ASUS is faceing a really hard competion in midrange market. Aspecially in asia. You have all the Jiyavu's, Siswoo's, elephone's, Xiaomi's, etc. And they all have quiet good price / value ratio. And nearly the same hardware.
For example: I could choose between a Jiyavu S3 Advance for nealy 300€ or the ASUS for 320€ (normal price with shipment around 390€). Differences 3GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM, CPU and Graphics power will be nearly the same in reallife, camera sensor Sony vs. Toshiba, both Dual-Sim, screensize / resolution and Mirco SD extension.
I choose ASUS because i got more RAM and a slightly better CPU for 20€... Would it be the normal price i maybe had choose the Jiyavu... (At the moment I ' m happy for going with ASUS ).
Back to Topic. If ASUS wants to deliver more midrange phones, i think they will stick with Intel. Price / Value seems to be at a sweetspot. Only MediaTech is able to deliver kind of compareable hardware for midrange phones (there seems to be a reason why the MT 6752 is in nearly every new "Chinaphone").
If ASUS wants to build a highend device, well, SD will be an option also MediaTech. I'm not quiet sure what Intel got in there portfolio.
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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This makes sense if smartphone tech wasn't rapidly improving and getting cheaper by the minute. By the time Zenfone 3 comes around, a more powerful SoC will be available at a cheaper price point.
On a side note, I've found the MT6752 based phones to be significantly snappier all-around than Z3560.
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It surly is just a small amount of the price. But it is not a question of material costs. It's a dicision how to enter a special market segment. And that would be the high end class.
Even Xiaomi isn't cheap here in Europe. If you purchase the Mi Note Pro at the moment at a reliable shop and paying normal taxes, we are talking about 650 Euros. Galaxy S6 is here 730 (64GB) or 600 (32GB)...LG G4 for 650Euros. The M9 goes for 550 Euros.
There would be no need for ASUS aiming at price below 550 Euros due to not enough competition in this segment.
And that 550 Euros are nearly twice as much I have payed for my ZenFone 2.
The only manufacturer showing us how you could possibly go below that point is OnePlus. But I really don't want to wait on somebody who is kind enough to give me at least an invite to buy a phone...
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I do agree that going with a high end SD SoC means entering a different segment of market, but the current situation has changed, at least with 2015. SD810 is no longer the to-go SoC for a flagship.
qualcomm screwing up this year really means something for everyone else in the market. think about it, now that Sammy has debuted its in-house Exynos that successfully, how likely will they use a SD next gen? assume they don't screw up their design, not likely isn't it? look at HTC, they are slowly moving towards mediatek for flagships also.
It used to be that to be flagship you gotta have a qualcomm chip, but now that trend is slowly disappearing. qualcomm no longer has the reputation it used to have.
Chinaphonearena said:
This makes sense if smartphone tech wasn't rapidly improving and getting cheaper by the minute. By the time Zenfone 3 comes around, a more powerful SoC will be available at a cheaper price point.
On a side note, I've found the MT6752 based phones to be significantly snappier all-around than Z3560.
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But then again isnt Z3560 pushing around 80% of the processing power of the Z3580 right now, and all respect to MTK aside I think they have ventured on the "More Cores = More Power" route results of which are still awaited! I think Intel has gained a huge boost to their brand name in mobile tech and should carry their future chips (subsidized) with Asus to carry this wave over!
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True story. If i wouldn't say that price / value are well balencend on this device, i wouldn't have switched from my Note 4 (and earning money for using a phone for 3 months )
I think they will be capable to deliver a "new" ZenFone 2, whitch is able to outperform this generation in a year. At the same price range. We will have the a new generation of SOCs, camera sensors... and so on. And there will still be a "midrange" or the "old" high end. The only question is: Is ASUS willing to to do so?
ASUS is faceing a really hard competion in midrange market. Aspecially in asia. You have all the Jiyavu's, Siswoo's, elephone's, Xiaomi's, etc. And they all have quiet good price / value ratio. And nearly the same hardware.
For example: I could choose between a Jiyavu S3 Advance for nealy 300€ or the ASUS for 320€ (normal price with shipment around 390€). Differences 3GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM, CPU and Graphics power will be nearly the same in reallife, camera sensor Sony vs. Toshiba, both Dual-Sim, screensize / resolution and Mirco SD extension.
I choose ASUS because i got more RAM and a slightly better CPU for 20€... Would it be the normal price i maybe had choose the Jiyavu... (At the moment I ' m happy for going with ASUS ).
Back to Topic. If ASUS wants to deliver more midrange phones, i think they will stick with Intel. Price / Value seems to be at a sweetspot. Only MediaTech is able to deliver kind of compareable hardware for midrange phones (there seems to be a reason why the MT 6752 is in nearly every new "Chinaphone").
If ASUS wants to build a highend device, well, SD will be an option also MediaTech. I'm not quiet sure what Intel got in there portfolio.
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Aha! but here is where Asus is ahead of the curve .... "Brand Recognition".... I agree 100% to the competition it might face in the Asian market but it would have a very much paved path in Europe and America as it already is an established brand in these markets due to its PC/Laptop ventures and thus a partnership with Intel (also a De facto processor for laptops) is something which already sells (Republic of Gaming anyone??) and would be easily presented in Zenfone.
Intel needs a way in the mobile market, and I think that if Zenfone sells anywhere near the target of 25Mil sets, the next phone might see even more subsidized support from Intel ... meaning better quality on a cheaper price and the winner is the buyer ... (If google doesn't flushes android compleatly down the drain like the latest updated which left some nexus 7 tabs bricked )!!!
Only problem with Intel is the locked bootloader and being stuck on 32-bit Android
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Only problem with Intel is the locked bootloader and being stuck on 32-bit Android
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bootloader unlock will come.. its just a matter of when...
and yeah the 32bit android is a letdown
what abt openness of the source code?
I don't really know how open source intel are abt there product
but we need open source codes so that developers can support zenfones
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bootloader unlock will come.. its just a matter of when...
and yeah the 32bit android is a letdown
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Why is 32 bit a letdown? Does this mean that being 32 forces you to underutilize RAM as in PCs?
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Why is 32 bit a letdown? Does this mean that being 32 forces you to underutilize RAM as in PCs?
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ram utilization isn't an issue cuz we only have 4GBs..
its the fact that certain instructions benefit from the 64bit mode.. and thats not counting the extra registers available too..
more to the point.. the device could perform even better
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what abt openness of the source code?
I don't really know how open source intel are abt there product
but we need open source codes so that developers can support zenfones
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asus has already released the source codes on their website.. and i believe at least 1 person here has managed to compile the kernel..
the only missing piece is the bootloader unlock to flash it
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But then again isnt Z3560 pushing around 80% of the processing power of the Z3580 right now, and all respect to MTK aside I think they have ventured on the "More Cores = More Power" route results of which are still awaited! I think Intel has gained a huge boost to their brand name in mobile tech and should carry their future chips (subsidized) with Asus to carry this wave over!
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When I take a look like a "normal" consumer, i wouldn't be intrested in how they achieve more power. If they develop a CPU with 100 cores, that wouldn't bother me as long as the power and battery consumption getting better.
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Aha! but here is where Asus is ahead of the curve .... "Brand Recognition".... I agree 100% to the competition it might face in the Asian market but it would have a very much paved path in Europe and America as it already is an established brand in these markets due to its PC/Laptop ventures and thus a partnership with Intel (also a De facto processor for laptops) is something which already sells (Republic of Gaming anyone??) and would be easily presented in Zenfone. ...
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Yes, the Brand name is quiet common in Europe and USA but as you statet for PCs, Laptops... They could make a use of this
but for example in Germany, we don't really have a big market for mid-range devices. The users here, change there phone when their contract is finished. So they get there hands on the high end devices for 150 € and cheaper (I know, prices for contracts are higher... but not many people are looking it that way).
So even if they have a name, without the right Phone they aren't able to sell many...
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I do agree that going with a high end SD SoC means entering a different segment of market, but the current situation has changed, at least with 2015. SD810 is no longer the to-go SoC for a flagship.
qualcomm screwing up this year really means something for everyone else in the market. think about it, now that Sammy has debuted its in-house Exynos that successfully, how likely will they use a SD next gen? assume they don't screw up their design, not likely isn't it? look at HTC, they are slowly moving towards mediatek for flagships also.
It used to be that to be flagship you gotta have a qualcomm chip, but now that trend is slowly disappearing. qualcomm no longer has the reputation it used to have.
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So whitch SOC would you choose? Nearly all big manufacturers showed theire Flagships for 2015. We have LG with SD808, HTC with SD810, Xiaomi with SD810, and expecting Sony with SD810, too
There are just a few SOCs at the moment playing in that Class... SD 808, SD810, MT6795 (still waiting for a real life test), Exynos 7420 (own League), Tegra K1 (just for Tablets).
And now it seems that Qualcomm fixed some things with SD810v2 it still is a player in that league. It would have been a big problem for Qualcomm if Mediatek had the MT6795 at the markets a few months ago. But that chance is over.
I hope HTC will go ahead on the MediaTek-Road.
I share your opininion regarding Samsung. Will be interesting if they are willing to share there newest SOCs with other companys. I would just give them my "last year version" and use the "new" just for my products or make it quiet expensive.
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So whitch SOC would you choose? Nearly all big manufacturers showed theire Flagships for 2015. We have LG with SD808, HTC with SD810, Xiaomi with SD810, and expecting Sony with SD810, too
There are just a few SOCs at the moment playing in that Class... SD 808, SD810, MT6795 (still waiting for a real life test), Exynos 7420 (own League), Tegra K1 (just for Tablets).
And now it seems that Qualcomm fixed some things with SD810v2 it still is a player in that league. It would have been a big problem for Qualcomm if Mediatek had the MT6795 at the markets a few months ago. But that chance is over.
I hope HTC will go ahead on the MediaTek-Road.
I share your opininion regarding Samsung. Will be interesting if they are willing to share there newest SOCs with other companys. I would just give them my "last year version" and use the "new" just for my products or make it quiet expensive.
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You seem to be missing an idea. yes, nearly all big OEMs went with qualcomm this year, but do they have a choice? keep in mind that OEMs design their flagship at least 1 year prior to their launch date, so whatever SoC they use, it's chosen long before it's out. Will OEMs be fully aware what potential problems the SoC will have?
don't take sammy's words for real, they were thinking of using Exynos regardless. they just waited for a chance when the SD810's heating issues got widely spread.
this year is already set in stone no matter what happens next, but what will OEMs consider now for 2016? sure qualcomm's next gen SoC seems promising on paper, but hey was there a time that the 810 didn't look promising to you on paper? that is something OEMs consider more carefully than before, since the days of just blindly taking qualcomm for granted is over with the 810. now that doesn't mean there won't be OEMs that will choose qualcomm no matter what anymore, it just means that qualcomm no longer is the only choice when it comes to flagships, and by then how do you know if others still don't have high end SoCs? intel has 14nm finfet with no 20nm interconnects unlike sammy ready to go, with this much power efficiency they can easily crank up their CPUs. mediatek has the helios 10 core thing coming out.
btw, the mi note pro also has overheating issues, the whole rev 2.1 thing is just marketing bs.
Buk-Lau said:
You seem to be missing an idea. yes, nearly all big OEMs went with qualcomm this year, but do they have a choice? keep in mind that OEMs design their flagship at least 1 year prior to their launch date, so whatever SoC they use, it's chosen long before it's out. Will OEMs be fully aware what potential problems the SoC will have?
don't take sammy's words for real, they were thinking of using Exynos regardless. they just waited for a chance when the SD810's heating issues got widely spread.
this year is already set in stone no matter what happens next, but what will OEMs consider now for 2016? sure qualcomm's next gen SoC seems promising on paper, but hey was there a time that the 810 didn't look promising to you on paper? that is something OEMs consider more carefully than before, since the days of just blindly taking qualcomm for granted is over with the 810. now that doesn't mean there won't be OEMs that will choose qualcomm no matter what anymore, it just means that qualcomm no longer is the only choice when it comes to flagships, and by then how do you know if others still don't have high end SoCs? intel has 14nm finfet with no 20nm interconnects unlike sammy ready to go, with this much power efficiency they can easily crank up their CPUs. mediatek has the helios 10 core thing coming out.
btw, the mi note pro also has overheating issues, the whole rev 2.1 thing is just marketing bs.
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According to your statement LG planned one year ahead to use a SD808 and not the SD810 ? Seems a little bit strange in my opinion.
Did they have a choice. I think they had. Trust in MediaTek for example. Talk to Nividia. Talk to Intel.
Will OEM be fully aware of Problems?
No, but who do you trust. A Partner that delivered Cutting-Edge-SoC's for years (and maybe to give you better order conditions to keep you as a partner) or a company that had there first really fully comparebale generation this year (trying everything to get a grip at premium brands)?
It's going to be really interesting what 2016 will bring.
I really would like to see highend devices with SoC from Intel, MediaTek, Samsung AND Qualcomm.
Regarding Mi Note Pro: could you provide any further sources? Read about this but also got first Infos from (how i think trustworthy) resellers that they aren't facing problems during stress tests....
Some rumours from here,
http://www.smartphoneandprice.com/b...-android-smartphone-full-specs-and-price.html
Can't comment on the accuracy though.
5.4" QHD Display, 2560x1440
18MP Rear facing camera
Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB internal storage, expandable via microSD
3560mAh battery
£250/$350/€320
If true, at that price I'm hugely tempted to move from my Xperia Z2.
While the specs are pretty decent, one of the other rumors Ive heard is that its coming with Lollipop. If I have a phone coming out in the next month or two, I want it to have Marshmallow or an absolute guaranteed timeframe of being upgraded. Granted, I am big on running ROM's but will the bootloader be unlocked to do so? And if so, how many developers will really jump on this phone to work on it?
From what I hear it ships with 5.1.1.
Marshmallow isn't even out yet is it? And is likely to be buggy are launch anyway. I doubt it'll be stable until towards the end of Q1 2016 so I don't think I'd want it shipping on a phone out this year.
That price looks way too low, and the battery rumors have been all over the place. Remember, that curved screens isn't cheap.
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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Yep, I agree. £400-£450 band is really buyable.
We don't know how BB places this phone on the market. Premium Business Device or Hi-End Consumer Phone ? Neither both, It won't be cheeper than S6 or Note 5 because build quality looks good and and additional hardware always cost more.
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There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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At that kind of price Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market really. If they want to shift units they're going to have to keep the price low when going up against other Android handsets.
I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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That's a good question. I've heard absolutely nothing about how it charges. We don't even know if it has fast charging either. Hopefully it has both.
Does it has type c USB?
Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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All the leaks have shown a normal angular looking micro USB port.
Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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One plus two.
Plus a number of less known phone companies (Xiaomi, LeTV, etc)
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I had a series of BB for 10 years. I miss the keyboard. I will have to try one of these and if they are close to the discussed price range will buy one. It looks like a large phone, however.
Sooo new spec sheets list the front cam as only 2 MP?? Is this an error or was the 5 MP rumor too good to be true? Not a deal breaker, but man, will THAT be disappointing. Awesome 18 MP Schneider Kreuznach lens on the back and... a camera from like 2005 on the front.
It's officially time, guys! Pre orders are LIVE!
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html
$699 for the U.S. version. The front cam is 2 MP, but has a f/2.9" aperture with 1.75 micron pixels. I'm no camera buff, but that sounds good? Also, NFC confirmed, Fast charging confirmed, wireless charging confirmed... No compromises aside from the battery being non removable. Releases November 6. Still no word on whether the carriers will sell them directly.
I have no idea why they would remove wireless charging on all the models except for the US, as the specs stand. They did spend the money to test them in the lab, then last minute pull it all out?
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That phone is elegant but I'm worried about the Slide keyboard thing, if it uses flex cable it will wear anytime. One thing, it doesn't have gyro sensor.
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The mechanism is solid apparently.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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awsomjgp said:
Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.
Should I sell My S8+ for the 8GB Ram Version of The Oneplus 5.... Pros and Cons?
I'm returning my S8+ that I have via JOD and getting the OP5 8GB model.
Pros.... you might get some of your money back even after buying it. The S8+ dropped in value recently its already down 120 or 150 dollars at my local carriers in my town. If you are thinking about selling it, then sell it. Its only going to go down. Samsung devices dont retain value that well. They sorta drop to the 200 dollar range and stay there forever. You can already get an S7 Edge for 240 dollars..... So..... i hope that alone speaks enough to you. OnePlus devices retain value very nicely. The oneplus one is still 220 dollars in most places. the 2 is like 240 the X is probably 200 somewhere i dont think many people care about that one. and the 3 is still in the mid 300 dollar range. Like 330-350. The 3t is still almost 400 dollars on places like swappa. Keep seeing 385 as the average number.
If you want my opinion rather than just some statements then I would say yes absolutely sell it now. The 835 is very underutilized on the S8+ anyway and most samsung phones are bloated messes. What even is bixby....?
Yeah, i'm concidering that also
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Should I sell My S8+ for the 8GB Ram Version of The Oneplus 5.... Pros and Cons?
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I wouldn't.
I still have the oneplus 3, and I still wouldn't upgrade. The only this you're getting is an upgrade CPU and software support.
I'm in the same boat. With the price hike its no longer clear if this a good buy. Specially since the oneplus 5 comes with no IP rating and a 1080p screen. In Canada the oneplus 5 is going to be 680 dollars delivered. The S8 can be found for 700. The pixel XL which has a better camera and older chip is being sold for 600 here . So I cant really consider the oneplus 5 a no brainier.
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I'm in the same boat. With the price hike its no longer clear if this a good buy. Specially since the oneplus 5 comes with no IP rating and a 1080p screen. In Canada the oneplus 5 is going to be 680 dollars delivered. The S8 can be found for 700. The pixel XL which has a better camera and older chip is being sold for 600 here . So I cant really consider the oneplus 5 a no brainier.
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I don't like the small screen but with 8GB of Ram I would be able to manage, offers a better camera sensor..... And honestly how many people actually use the water resistant to its full potential
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I wouldn't.
I still have the oneplus 3, and I still wouldn't upgrade. The only this you're getting is an upgrade CPU and software support.
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I had the 835 in the S8+ already I like it for the Ram Boost
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I'm returning my S8+ that I have via JOD and getting the OP5 8GB model.
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JOD?
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Pros.... you might get some of your money back even after buying it. The S8+ dropped in value recently its already down 120 or 150 dollars at my local carriers in my town. If you are thinking about selling it, then sell it. Its only going to go down. Samsung devices dont retain value that well. They sorta drop to the 200 dollar range and stay there forever. You can already get an S7 Edge for 240 dollars..... So..... i hope that alone speaks enough to you. OnePlus devices retain value very nicely. The oneplus one is still 220 dollars in most places. the 2 is like 240 the X is probably 200 somewhere i dont think many people care about that one. and the 3 is still in the mid 300 dollar range. Like 330-350. The 3t is still almost 400 dollars on places like swappa. Keep seeing 385 as the average number.
If you want my opinion rather than just some statements then I would say yes absolutely sell it now. The 835 is very underutilized on the S8+ anyway and most samsung phones are bloated messes. What even is bixby....?
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I disabled 212 apps on it LMAO.... Not debloated now XD but yes I agree
malek777 said:
I'm in the same boat. With the price hike its no longer clear if this a good buy. Specially since the oneplus 5 comes with no IP rating and a 1080p screen. In Canada the oneplus 5 is going to be 680 dollars delivered. The S8 can be found for 700. The pixel XL which has a better camera and older chip is being sold for 600 here . So I cant really consider the oneplus 5 a no brainier.
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What are you talking about dude? Galaxy S8 is $1035 CAD without tax, and with tax its $1169.55 (HST 13%). Pixel XL is $949.00 (sale price right now; regular $1049.00) CAD without tax, and with tax its $1072.37.
Lol, where did you get S8 to be $700 and Pixel XL $600 CAD? Tell me please. And I am asking outright price . Please post correct information.
Also, S8 can't be rooted. So much useless bloatware. Especially bixby button.
OP5 is better, op. If you can get the money back you spent on S8 or if its a bit low, then go for it.
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I disabled 212 apps on it LMAO.... Not debloated now XD but yes I agree
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Disabled, not deleted. Plus there is that Bixby button and its services. If you do disable it, it cases issues , i've experiened it before I returned S8+. You can't root Canadian S8 and S8+.
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JOD?
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Jump on demand
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LimitsX said:
What are you talking about dude? Galaxy S8 is $1035 CAD without tax, and with tax its $1169.55 (HST 13%). Pixel XL is $949.00 (sale price right now; regular $1049.00) CAD without tax, and with tax its $1072.37.
Lol, where did you get S8 to be $700 and Pixel XL $600 CAD? Tell me please. And I am asking outright price . Please post correct information.
Also, S8 can't be rooted. So much useless bloatware. Especially bixby button.
OP5 is better, op. If you can get the money back you spent on S8 or if its a bit low, then go for it.
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Disabled, not deleted. Plus there is that Bixby button and its services. If you do disable it, it cases issues , i've experiened it before I returned S8+. You can't root Canadian S8 and S8+.
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No IK No root is a bummer for me
OH MY GOD. ive disabled like 10 on my 3t o, o
Why the heck would you want a OP5? A 1080 screen, no OIS and from the reviews so far an avarage camera, no SD card slot, no waterproofing etc. It's a mid range avarage and fairly ugly phone.
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Why the heck would you want a OP5? A 1080 screen, no OIS and from the reviews so far an avarage camera, no SD card slot, no waterproofing etc. It's a mid range avarage and fairly ugly phone.
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wait.... there is no SD Card Slot!?
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wait.... there is no SD Card Slot!?
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On the OP5, no.
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On the OP5, no.
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ur right.... I knew this bout the 3T Also.... hmmmmm I mean 128GB is alot but I prefer my 200GB SD Card, good point to consider thanks!
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ur right.... I knew this bout the 3T Also.... hmmmmm I mean 128GB is alot but I prefer my 200GB SD Card, good point to consider thanks!
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I also forgot the S8 has an HDR display. YouTube HDR looks stunning on it.
Less bezel is more, which is why I'd personally stick to the S8. Really hoped OP5 would go in a similar direction.
OK so the N5X is 3 years old now... any new phones out or coming out that are similar in price (budget-mid price range), and will have similar custom ROM support?
Just curious, as my N5X is still going strong, but there seems to be a roadblock on getting Android Pie to be fully functional in the few attempts I see (encryption?)
I've been keeping an eye on the new Nokia #.1 devices, and other similar specc'd phones.
Thanks.
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
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I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
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Perhaps in function, but they cost quite a bit more.
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I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
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I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
I would consider something like the OnePlus/Oppo if it were available on Sprint but unfortunately my device selection is limited being on this provider.
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I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
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Those are still pretty spendy at $400+. I'm looking for the $300 or less range, same as the 5X was. I really can't see spending that much for a phone, as I'm not quite as hooked into it as some seem to be, I just need a nice reliable device I can customize easily like the 5X.
Nokia 7+ or Xiaomi Mi A2. Both Android One.
Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).
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Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).
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Yeah I was looking at the Nokia phones as well. I'm in the US, so want to purchase them here so they have a warranty valid in the US.
Any more thoughts on this topic as the holiday sales are upon us?
@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime
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@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime
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I did... a little quirky, kept locking up, other little issues. I don't think Pie will be viable for the N5X in the long run.
Right now I'm running latest Oreo stock but rooted with Magisk and Franco kernel.
I'm asking about new phones, not ways to keep my old phone running.
Thanks.
@g90814, you're welcome
The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.
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The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.
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Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.
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Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.
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you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.
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you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.
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Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).
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Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).
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From everything I found, at that price point, the Pocophone is the best one, anything cheaper is way worse and not many things a little bit more expensive like at $400 or $500 are still not as good as it is. You don't really have to worry about warranty if you buy on Amazon though, if Xiaomi don't give you warranty, Amazon will as well as the resellers so don't worry about that. Bellow that 300 bucks, you may also get some other Xiaomi phones with good specs but most of them are using snapdragon 6xx which is not quite good.
Essential phone is truly the lowest price replacement of good quality.
I wouldn't recommend that pocophone for anyone in America because it doesn't work on Verizon or Sprint.
The pixel phones are all decent, but they have major hardware issues and look ugly.
LG makes the best looking and some of the most feature rich phones, but can't ever update software. (V30 is just an awesome phone form factor tho)
If I had to recommend a few replacements these would be it:
Galaxy s8 or newer Samsung flagships (TouchWiz is better than stock Android in 2018 amazingly)
Essential phone
LG v30*
Oneplus 6t (No other OnePlus phones though because the rest are beat by Galaxy s8/s9 and the essential phone at every price point)
*For v30 you must be a regular headphone jack user. That quad dac is amazing. Makes a $10 pair of headphones sound like $150, and regular car speakers sound like a full on audio upgrade. Being an LG there is next to no software support and no dev support, but the audio almost makes up for it.
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Other option to consider however....
Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.
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Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.
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Thanks for all that, Nascar. Lot's to consider, but the 'downgrade to upgrade' is a valid point. I was eyeing some refurb Galaxy s# phones, maybe I'll go for that.
I have bought a OnePlus 6 with the discount from Black Friday (and that will be valid until Christmas, I think). It is exactly the same price as the Nexus 5x 32gb originally.: $429,00. In this sense I think it is a proper successor. It is a little big, though.
And I disagree with the post above. The S8 is a great phone, but it is worse than the OnePlus 6 in most aspects but the camera.