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"Pixel Visual Core" SoC to be enabled with Oreo 8.1

Apparently Google has designed and included a separate image processor that has not yet been enabled. I'm not sure why Google kept this a secret for so long, but it looks like the world's best smartphone camera will get even better once Oreo 8.1 rolls out.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ns-a-custom-google-soc-the-pixel-visual-core/

Yep, Google hired a key chip designer from Apple to bulid custom chips for the company.
Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL have a pixel visual core custom SoC.
"The new Pixel Visual Core is dedicated strictly to image processing with the company saying it can do HDR+ image processing “5x faster and at less than 1/10th the energy.”

I think the most exciting part here is the SoC allowing HDR+ in 3rd party apps. Your snapchat selfies are gonna be super sexy now.

Another reason the pixel is better than the V30

HDR+ ftw!

AndreaCristiano said:
Another reason the pixel is better than the V30
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I had really high hopes for the V30 and was sure that it would be my next mobile device (*cough* headphone jack *cough*), but software is what keeps great phones great. I wanted an upgrade that wouldn't feel outdated within a few months, and I have no doubt that the Pixel 2 XL will continue to be a great phone well into 2019. Can't say the same about the V30.

audioman42 said:
I had really high hopes for the V30 and was sure that it would be my next mobile device (*cough* headphone jack *cough*), but software is what keeps great phones great. I wanted an upgrade that wouldn't feel outdated within a few months, and I have no doubt that the Pixel 2 XL will continue to be a great phone well into 2019. Can't say the same about the V30.
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Exactly. The more I thought about it the more the Pixel2XL was the only way to go for me.

audioman42 said:
I had really high hopes for the V30 and was sure that it would be my next mobile device (*cough* headphone jack *cough*), but software is what keeps great phones great. I wanted an upgrade that wouldn't feel outdated within a few months, and I have no doubt that the Pixel 2 XL will continue to be a great phone well into 2019. Can't say the same about the V30.
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I would have been highly interested in the V30 if I didn't own the V20 before it. The reason being exactly what you said, software. The V20 after about the 3-4 month mark started lagging noticeably and it seemed to lag even worse after every update it got. I felt like throwing it out the window a few times when I needed to make or take some important business calls before I finally went back to my 6p. The last time a phone lagged that badly on me was back with the Note 4 and I'm a pretty light app user as well.

audioman42 said:
Apparently Google has designed and included a separate image processor that has not yet been enabled. I'm not sure why Google kept this a secret for so long, but it looks like the world's best smartphone camera will get even better once Oreo 8.1 rolls out.
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This is a pleasant surprise! I like it that Google pushed the hardware through with the Pixel 2's even though the software for it is not yet ready, so that users get the eventual benefit of it. Seems like this is where they allocated their pixel development budget vs a dual camera setup as a big plus of SoC vs camera is that they can use it for multiple applications and not just HDR+, although since they call it specifically IPU's it'll probably be limited to photography/videography applications.
The Google Blog post on it says this at the end (sorry I can't post links here yet)
HDR+ will be the first application to run on Pixel Visual Core. Notably, because Pixel Visual Core is programmable, we’re already preparing the next set of applications. The great thing is that as we port more machine learning and imaging applications to use Pixel Visual Core, Pixel 2 will continuously improve. So keep an eye out!
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I can't wait to see what devs start doing with this chip. Possibly a chroot scenario

Ricey said:
I would have been highly interested in the V30 if I didn't own the V20 before it. The reason being exactly what you said, software. The V20 after about the 3-4 month mark started lagging noticeably and it seemed to lag even worse after every update it got. I felt like throwing it out the window a few times when I needed to make or take some important business calls before I finally went back to my 6p. The last time a phone lagged that badly on me was back with the Note 4 and I'm a pretty light app user as well.
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I'm not surprised by the lag you noticed on the V20. My buddie bought one in December of last year and when he got it he let me try and after using it for less then 2 mins I was disgusted by the little lag spikes I noticed and had to go back to my pixel ASAP! LoL

tw1tch175 said:
I think the most exciting part here is the SoC allowing HDR+ in 3rd party apps. Your snapchat selfies are gonna be super sexy now.
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I don't know, thinking snapchat will do something to one up apple doesn't sound likely, unless Google pressures them or something.

mykenyc said:
I don't know, thinking snapchat will do something to one up apple doesn't sound likely, unless Google pressures them or something.
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Well Alphabet invested in Snapchat about a year ago. It has shown a bit. The Android version feature delay is no where near what it used to be and it does seem like they're doing camera work with the major players at least. Don't get me wrong, I still only place the odds at 50/50.

tw1tch175 said:
Well Alphabet invested in Snapchat about a year ago. It has shown a bit. The Android version feature delay is no where near what it used to be and it does seem like they're doing camera work with the major players at least. Don't get me wrong, I still only place the odds at 50/50.
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OH didn't even know that, to be honest the only feature I want in snapchat more thank HDR+ is the bokeh effects.

Okay! So "Pixel Visual Core Service 1.0.166778097" just got uploaded to APK Mirror!
The minimum API level is API 26, Oreo 8.0. Does this mean we can install this APK and activate the Pixel Visual Core SoC without installing the 8.1 Developer Preview? Can anyone test this? How would we know if this worked?

qtpa2tnh said:
Okay! So "Pixel Visual Core Service 1.0.166778097" just got uploaded to APK Mirror!
The minimum API level is API 26, Oreo 8.0. Does this mean we can install this APK and activate the Pixel Visual Core SoC without installing the 8.1 Developer Preview? Can anyone test this? How would we know if this worked?
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No cause all Features are activated only with 8.1.0 Framework and libs

Ok so has anyone attempted to add that apk to their 8.1 developer preview?
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bajasur said:
Ok so has anyone attempted to add that apk to their 8.1 developer preview?
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It's already there.
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I dont see it in mine, i also have 8.1 dev

Tehpdub said:
I dont see it in mine, i also have 8.1 dev
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Did you press, show system apps, in three dot menu on top right corner?

real Oneplus 5T pics?

What do you think? real or fake?

Real...
( I hope ..cause I want to buy it )

Doubt it... Two reasons:
a) Buttons placement (alert slider and volume rocker on the same side);
b) Look at the "T" of the alleged website: font seems different

https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t_images_and_tagline_surface-news-27863.php

HFidalgo said:
Doubt it... Two reasons:
a) Buttons placement (alert slider and volume rocker on the same side);
b) Look at the "T" of the alleged website: font seems different
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The alert slider & volume rocker is on the same side on the OnePlus 5. Not sure what you meant there?
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Devhux said:
The alert slider & volume rocker is on the same side on the OnePlus 5. Not sure what you meant there?
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Man... you're right!
Don't know why, but the picture just didn't seem right to me... Funniest part (or not) is that I own a OP5...
(short sleep results in this... guess it's time to drink a gallon of coffe. )
Anyway, I'm sticking with the "T" part...

https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-render-leak-rumor-display/
This thing is coming....samsung has just put way too much pressure with their extremely successful bezel reduction on all the other manufacturers...
I'd be surprised, if OP didn't dive in that hype, though personally I prefer my sweet bezels

CetiiN said:
What do you think? real or fake?
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Wow awesome

I'm feeling like it's pretty credible at this point. And yes although it sucks for those of use with a 5 already since they'll probably not be putting that much effort into updates anymore it's kind of their pattern now I guess.

vortex-5 said:
I'm feeling like it's pretty credible at this point. And yes although it sucks for those of use with a 5 already since they'll probably not be putting that much effort into updates anymore it's kind of their pattern now I guess.
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Updates will be merged. If a 5T is coming, it will have the same hardware as the normal 5.
I don't see why they can't update both then since the only difference would be the bigger screen.

Will they put the screen in the correct orientation is the question. I still don't understand how they got away with calling the 5's orientation "normal". I buy 1+ because of the dev support, but that stuff rubs me the wrong way. Consumers aren't stupid. And they better not take away the headphone jack!!

mshinni80 said:
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t_images_and_tagline_surface-news-27863.php
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Well one of them is fake, look how rounded the screen corners are in the 'website' image compared to the photos in your link

HFidalgo said:
Man... you're right!
Don't know why, but the picture just didn't seem right to me... Funniest part (or not) is that I own a OP5...
(short sleep results in this... guess it's time to drink a gallon of coffe. )
Anyway, I'm sticking with the "T" part...
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The T does look out of place. Like it was photoshopped or placed there after. Doesn't look legit . not worth the upgrade from the op5

the_rooter said:
not worth the upgrade from the op5
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Totally agree if this is what 5t will be.
Although I have to say: I'm not getting the selling strategy OnePlus is enduring. It's almost like they're discouraging people to buy the first iteration of the new product...
Besides that, last year they said that the "T" scene was circumstancial and that they wouldn't repeat it... I guess it's getting harder for OEMs to keep a promise, these days.
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sounds like they have been milking the OP5 sales to get funding for the 5T, which would explain why they are continuously out of stock of the 5 now. they are cutting production cost of the 5 to redirect funds to production of 5T

Yeah after this experience I definitely feel like I'm actively discouraged to by the normal versions and just wait for the T. At which point the OnePlus will be competing with the new iphones, and all the new flagships released to capture the holiday season. Along with the discounted flagships that were released july. It'll be harder to justify getting the T and basically anyone that follows OP will just wait for the T all the time now if it becomes a pattern. Why get the normal one when a better one is only a little bit away?

https://www.droid-life.com/2017/11/10/oneplus-5t-leak/
There's zero mystery left - that answers every question. For some reason, even though I thought I was quite sure to buy one, I'm not feeling it. Looks like cameras are exactly the same, battery is the same (3300mah) and just a larger screen with FPR on back. Damn. Might start thinking about HTC U11+ again.

https://www.slashgear.com/oneplus-5t-leaked-in-full-on-reddit-and-twitter-10507653/
'The only difference between the cameras on this device and those of the 5 are in the “Secondary” image sensor, which now has an aperture of f/1.7 instead of f/2.6. This image sensor is now an IMX 376K instead of IMX 350.'

Leaked specs on Twitter

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Leaked specs on Twitter
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Really poor improvement...
-> No USB 3.1 (Type-C 2.0 again...)
-> No IP67/68 Certification
-> No MicroSD Slot or 256Gb Model
-> No OREO for the Launch

Returned my Pixel 2 for this phone, am i crazy?

I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.

DanDroidOS said:
I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp

LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now

mackentosh said:
The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.

xocomaox said:
Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.

spotmark said:
Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.

Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch

I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk

I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!

Who's upgrading to Pixel 3 or 3XL?

Hey guys,
I was wondering if upgrading worth it. Also my girlfriend wants to buy a pixel and we were waiting on the 3 to see the changes, however for what I've seen I don't think worth the upgrade or buying the pixel 3, pixel 2 still performs perfectly.
My question is, all those feature pixel 3 will have since it's software wise we will have it also in our pixel 2 right ? That smart call, top shot and night mode ?
Also that notch... Ewks...
Anyone have any opinion why I should upgrade to pixel 3 and give this 2xl to my girlfriend or should I just keep it and buy her a pixel 2 instead and keep the money ?
Cheers

I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P

Depends on disposable income. You got the bucks get the 3. Give your gal the 2 she'll love it.
That's what I'm doing with the Mrs. If you're strapped for cash keep yours and get her a Pixel 2. Can't go wrong either way.
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jerryhou85 said:
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
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Nope.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
read down to this:
Pixel Visual Core Changes
Next, a Product Manager confirmed to us that the Pixel Visual Core has indeed been updated. Until the device’s kernel source code is released, we won’t know exactly what new functions have been added to the HAL. However, we’re told that the Pixel Visual Core is now actually used by the Google Camera app for Google Lens suggestions, HDR+, Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, and Photobooth. That’s most likely why the older Pixels will get support for Night Sight and Playground but won’t get support for Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, or Photobooth – they don’t have the newer Pixel Visual Core.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
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Ah... I hate all these manufacturers who release minor features and call it an upgrade...?

Anyone know if the pixel 3 USB port is still incapable of video out?
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No Pixel 3 XL minor spec's for me. Be staying with the Pixel 2 XL which has plenty of updates left in it!

I grabbed the 3. It's essentially a more ergonomic Pixel 2 XL with a better screen, better front camera(s), wireless charging, IP68, better speakers, and another year of support.

OG Pixel to Pixel 2 XL was worth it to me but the Pixel 2 XL to Pixel 3 XL not so much

Staying with 2 XL
I'm really tempted to get the 3XL because it's BOGO at verizion but I'm resisting the temptation . I like the better screen and sound but the 2XL is still a good phone and don't really see a big jump in performance. Plus "some" of the new features will come to the 2XL so I think I'll hold off until next year when it's more of a upgrade.

I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.

devlamania said:
I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
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Useless to you. It's all subjective. Try out the OnePlus 6T.

I ordered the 3 XL cuz I just at like changing phones every year. But I also have a 2 xl and snapped out of zombie mode and cancelled my order. The 2 camera is still amazing. This phone is fast as hell. I like root even if it's not too needed these days. It just didn't seem like an upgrade worth $1000 for.
Oh yeah....and I HATE gesture navigation.

I don't really see the 'upgrades' with the Pixel 3. All the features announced are pretty much coming the the Pixel 2 and the notch is a real disadvantage, so why bother?
Sticking with my Pixel 2XL for couple of years, still functions flawlessly. Let's see what the Pixel 4 holds...

What "should" have been the Pixel 3xl... will be the Oneplus 6T!

I will not upgrade, I don't see the updates as worth the money. And in general I feel that the pixel phones are overpriced compared to the competition...

I ordered the 3 xl. Since I've been paying more than needed on my payments for my 2 xl, the 3 xl with the stand will be pretty much the same payment. Got it for the better cameras as I use mine a lot, also the wireless charging, and the better screen. I checked one out in a Verizon store, and the notch does NOT look as bad in person either. Though, if any devs make it so you can partially hide it instead of fully, I'll be all over that.

Probably will upgrade but truth is the pixel 3 is a very weak effort by Google. I should probably just call it a lazy attempt. I know some tech YouTubers have been saying that the effort is in the software but at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one .
I'll use it for a week and see how I feel about it.

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...at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one.
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I see the Pixel 3 an "s" year for the Pixel but better than what Apple's done. Things the Pixel 3 has that the Pixel 2 doesn't have or won't get:
Better processor, screen, speakers, wireless charging, wide angle lens for the front, photobooth, top shot, super res zoom, motion auto focus, lens suggestions for Google Lens, and Titan M security chip.
That's a bigger difference than the iPhone X and the iPhone XS.
That being said, I don't think any phone is worth getting for a yearly update. Getting the latest and greatest on a yearly basis just makes everything incremental and less significant of an upgrade. And going from one 2018 to another 2018 is just a lateral move which is even a bigger waste.
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Have you seen the XS? It's amazing. Feels better, looks better, runs better. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Battery life optimized to where you will drool. I'm not going there but..
Edit.. it's getting close. I'm not rooting these days there are no roms to speak of the. Wear OS is sketchy vs I watch or whatever they call it. Talk me down. I shouldn't have gone into the store and compared. The notch in the iPhone actually looks good. WTF? That being said I'll probably get the pixel 3 on BF. Probably..

Pixel 3a first impressions

Tried to post this in the real life review section but it wouldn't let me.
So I had a 1, then a 2, and then a 1 again. I've had the 3a for a week now and although that's a very short time to have impressions, some things are that obvious. First, very often when I put the phine in my pocket and then take it out, the phone is unlocked and a bunch of things have happened. Thank god it hasn't called someone at an inappropriate time... Second, GA does not understand me anymore. Previously, it was nearly flawless. Third, I'm still stuck on Sprint. The previous phones, although also starting out on Sprint, learned very quickly that t-mobile is way better in my area. And I copied the old phone to the new with all settings and stuff, so the new one should know. Forced switching with Fi-switch doesn't help. And last, I don't see any improvement in speed over the 1. Both phones are plenty fine in this regard, with some stutter here and there, but I would expect the new one to be at least somewhat better. So there it is, not impressed at all...

ribogushter said:
Tried to post this in the real life review section but it wouldn't let me.
And last, I don't see any improvement in speed over the 1. Both phones are plenty fine in this regard, with some stutter here and there, but I would expect the new one to be at least somewhat better. So there it is, not impressed at all...
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Yeah, but the 1 was considered Google's flagship phone. I know it was 3 years ago and whatever components they used in that should have already made it to the budget category, but apparently not.
When Google planned this phone, I think there were a few things they considered and one was probably not to completely ruin their flagship line, it wasn't doing great already and even now I think the Pixel 3a is cannibalizing the Pixel 3 now, but also the Pixel 4 has to feel as a step-up so they ] cut corners in many places for the 3a.
My dissatisfaction after 2 months using :
1. The screen. Lately it's been very sunny and the screen is hard to make out on max brightness. It actually looks worse than some 4-5 year old phones, even if it's OLED.
2. The sound quality and Sound effects. The speakers on this phone just not doing it for me. Could be because the phone made of plastic or the speakers aren't well insulated and causes some vibration . The sound effects on this phone is like..this is the first phone I'm considering downloading new sound effects or make my own, because I just don't like them.
Other things, like the camera and the fingerprint reader and the software are great, but regardless what reviewers say, I can't escape the feel of it, of being a cheap phone and the screen and the sound quality only confirms it. Good thing I only paid $180 for it with a trade-in.

Just joined #teampixel today - my 3a (not 3a XL, as I originally planned) is currently charging. First off, the fingerprint sensor is faster than the S7 it will replace - a serious surprise. The data import (also from the S7) is fast as heck, too. Why the 3a (instead of the XL)? Amusingly, it has to do with TWRP - it's ready for the smaller of the two (just not for the XL yet). Other than that, I kept the same choices otherwise (including the color - a tasteful Just Black). good thing I'm giving myself a week to get used to it - I'm going to need it.

4 months later, I sold the 3a and got a 3. Overall it was a fine phone but it turned out I really needed a waterproof phone. Kinda wanted to get the 4 but decided to let it mature a bit first.
So, off to the 3 forum Good luck to y'all 3a'ers

I am looking to buy 3a and would like to know if proximity sensor issue (I assume that's what it was) described in original post is widespread. If so - was it ever fixed?

JoeSchmoe007 said:
I am looking to buy 3a and would like to know if proximity sensor issue (I assume that's what it was) described in original post is widespread. If so - was it ever fixed?
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I never had any issues with proximity sensor or noticed any other issue. In contrary I was even surprised that the pixel 3a has some pretty nice features which are not even promoted, e.g. it supports RSAP connections to my car which is very difficult to find nowadays.

AndDiSa said:
I never had any issues with proximity sensor or noticed any other issue. In contrary I was even surprised that the pixel 3a has some pretty nice features which are not even promoted, e.g. it supports RSAP connections to my car which is very difficult to find nowadays.
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You don't experience something like that:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3a/help/screen-wakeup-proxi-sensor-covered-t4000395
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JoeSchmoe007 said:
You don't experience something like that:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3a/help/screen-wakeup-proxi-sensor-covered-t4000395
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That's not a bug. That's just how it works.
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Skittles9823 said:
That's not a bug. That's just how it works.
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Can you explain? I still use original Moto X with JellyBean and not up to date on any Android version after that, so I may be missing something. How does it make sense for the phone to randomly answer calls while in the pocket? My current phone certainly doesn't do that.

JoeSchmoe007 said:
Can you explain? I still use original Moto X with JellyBean and not up to date on any Android version after that, so I may be missing something. How does it make sense for the phone to randomly answer calls while in the pocket? My current phone certainly doesn't do that.
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Not every device has a pocket mode. It's as simple as that.
It's not like calls are automatically answered, it's just really an issue if you keep the screen facing your leg in the pocket.
However as I've stated it is possible to get a pocket mode if you root and use edxposed (there is probably a way to do it without edxposed and just root but I haven't really looked into it)
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