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Returned my Pixel 2 for this phone, am i crazy?

I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.

DanDroidOS said:
I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp

LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now

mackentosh said:
The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.

xocomaox said:
Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.

spotmark said:
Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.

Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch

I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk

I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!

New pixel3 xl leaked is it worth to upgrade

Handson and unboxing leaked:
https://youtu.be/qnEFPgvFdOE
Pixel 3 xl aka panda final design revealed :
The biggest surprise, however, is the inclusion of bundled earphones. Judging by the video , these are USB-C buds (no, the headphone jack isn’t coming back) that closely resemble Google’s premium wireless*Pixel Buds. Here’s hoping they deliver on audio quality and aren’t just a cheap pair of disposable earphones that get immediately resigned to the bin. Its running android 9.0 pie out of box.
the phone will be powered by an octa-core Qualcomm processor (4 x 1.77GHz and 4 x 2.8GHz), which is almost certainly the*Snapdragon 845 SoC, backed by 4GB of RAM and an Adreno 630 GPU. The display is also listed as having a 1,440 x 2,960 resolution with a 494 ppi rating.
Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda ?? can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)

Ugly notch. Keeping my 2 xl

pankspoo said:
Handson and unboxing leaked:
Pixel 3 xl aka panda final design revealed :
The biggest surprise, however, is the inclusion of bundled earphones. Judging by the video , these are USB-C buds (no, the headphone jack isn’t coming back) that closely resemble Google’s premium wireless*Pixel Buds. Here’s hoping they deliver on audio quality and aren’t just a cheap pair of disposable earphones that get immediately resigned to the bin. Its running android 9.0 pie out of box.
the phone will be powered by an octa-core Qualcomm processor (4 x 1.77GHz and 4 x 2.8GHz), which is almost certainly the*Snapdragon 845 SoC, backed by 4GB of RAM and an Adreno 630 GPU. The display is also listed as having a 1,440 x 2,960 resolution with a 494 ppi rating.
Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda ?? can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)
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Google has been going down hill lately. Only gestures...wtf. Volume buttons linked to media volume only...swipe down twice to get to settings icon... Come on now. P is a huge step back.

sruel3216 said:
Google has been going down hill lately. Only gestures...wtf. Volume buttons linked to media volume only...swipe down twice to get to settings icon... Come on now. P is a huge step back.
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I can't understand what Google want to do by creating these phones?

NO! No notch!

Helll nooooo!!

santanac said:
Helll nooooo!!
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This Pixel 2 xl maybe my last Google phone, with the un inspired Pixel 3, I will be waiting for Samsung galaxy s10 as my next replacement phone.

I'm honestly 50/50 in the Pixel 3 XL. I don't really mind the notch, the software is amazing, stock Android. I'm super happy with my 2 XL. However, what puts me off is the 4GB RAM. I believe with the Snapdragon 845, having 4BG RAM won't let it use it's full potential (please correct me if I'm wrong) There's also the fact that 5G is around the corner and with the chip finally made for smartphones to utilize 5G, do I want to Shell out $1k+ right now? I switched to TMobile and I can't utilize their 600Mhz range since the 2XL does not have band 71, which is another thing to consider. I've considered buying a Samsung, but with their bloat infested software and terrible customer service, let alone the slow updates, I don't think I want to. But, I digress. Either way, it's a lot for me to take into consideration. For all I know, I only want it because it's the latest and greatest ?*

This must be a joke.
Enviado desde mi Pixel 2 mediante Tapatalk

Fugly..fugly..fugly! No danka! ???

I was about to say Pixel 3 XL was worth buying if you had a OG Pixel XL or any other non-Google phone. But after reading my own comment, I changed my mind.
Don't get me wrong, I love my P2XL. But I don't think P3XL will be a good value. P3XL specs are marginally better than P2XL. When P3XL is released, P2XL prices will drop. Will P3XL be worth the extra money? Only if you must have the latest and greatest. Otherwise, save some money and get P2XL instead.

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I was about to say Pixel 3 XL was worth buying if you had a OG Pixel XL or any other non-Google phone. But after reading my own comment, I changed my mind.
Don't get me wrong, I love my P2XL. But I don't think P3XL will be a good value. P3XL specs are marginally better than P2XL. When P3XL is released, P2XL prices will drop. Will P3XL be worth the extra money? Only if you must have the latest and greatest. Otherwise, save some money and get P2XL instead.
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Even one plus 6 is far better than this pixel 3 xl

You should add a poll to this post
As for me I just bought my 2 XL (coming from an OG pixel xl) a week ago knowing that the 3XL is just around the corner, but I didn't feel it would be significant upgrade and wouldn't justify the expected ridiculous price Google will be asking for it
I just hope they don't keep a couple of SW features exclusive to the Pixel 3 like they did when they launched the pixel 2 to those poor soles who had the OG Pixel

Won't win any Apple beauty contests, but I'll try it out. Then compare side by side to my 2XL and make a hands on decision to keep or sell....

Fugly! No!

If I'm paying a grand for a phone it better have more than 4gb of RAM

Google does not learn their lesson. Spends over a billion dollars to acquire new engineers for the phone, and none of them can think of the simplest way to do wireless charging without a glass or plastic back. And they don't get a good designer for the phone? C'mon!!!
Anyway, all the reasons you listed are fine with me... but one is what makes me, and many other people, just drop any chances of getting this phone. That is definitely the most stupid decision, which guarantees the worst investment by any company ever! Getting stupid engineers for over a billion dollars that actually don't know CRAP!
- A notch is fine, just not that shape and so deep into the screen. Look at LGQ and OP6. Beautiful notches, if you gotta have a notch. But okay, I can take that.
- It's okay to have a chin... for stereo speakers... but THAT BIG!!!??? Wish it was smaller... but that is still okay with me.
- Why a glass back!?!?!? Just charge the freaking phone through the front screen. I am not using the phone when charging wirelessly anyway. Now pixel will also become a fragile phone Still, I can take that too...
- Soft keys? Stupid engineers or whoever takes care of the software... There's still that pill. WHY???? GET RID OF IT GOOGLE!!! Give me screen space!!! Or let the pill be on top of the content when you touch the screen. What a wast of over one full row! But okay... I can live with it.
- Single camera.... fine with me... as long as it is as good or better than the current pixel 2 camera... and who knows... maybe it will come with optical zoom! (I wish!)
- I actually like the fingerprint spot, would never change it. My phone already does great with the fingerprint and face detection. Kudos for keeping that Google!
- Love the size of the phone. Perfect for my hands. If this is too big for you, you can always have the smaller version.
- Cost... all good phones are expensive... but as long as it is good like the Pixel, I am fine paying for it.
- Now, this is what I cannot accept... I have been a fan of nexus phones, since nexus 5, and have purchased every single phone, every year. Now... 4GB MEMORY!?!? If that does not change when the phone is out, I'm out. I can take all these new **** from google, but 4GB memory? No... I'm going to another brand or OS this time. Maybe OP6 or whatever. That decision is simply stupid.
pankspoo said:
Worst part:
1)comes with ugly notch
2)only gesture control is available no softkey or anything
3)same back with with single camera and fingerprint sensor as previous pixel devices no innovativeness
4)big chin at bottom
5)only 4 gb RAM still in 2018
6)no headphone jack( carry that usb C connector too in pocket)
7)big like panda can't handle
8)costly (but price not revealed)
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Sab3elbromba said:
You should add a poll to this post
As for me I just bought my 2 XL (coming from an OG pixel xl) a week ago knowing that the 3XL is just around the corner, but I didn't feel it would be significant upgrade and wouldn't justify the expected ridiculous price Google will be asking for it
I just hope they don't keep a couple of SW features exclusive to the Pixel 3 like they did when they launched the pixel 2 to those poor soles who had the OG Pixel
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Added POLL specifically for design

i just wonder will they price this even more than pixel 2 xl.

If they will have a Pink Pixel 3 XL then I am upgrading. Need to get a pink phone for my fiance so we have a matching phone set. Current she has a Sony XA2 in Pink.
During some of the media's "leak" coverage I have seen some so call Pixel 3 XL images with a white and pink two tone.... so hopefully that is the case.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3 XL, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3 XL is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well it is a Google Pixel so of course there is gonna be some love ?
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I've owned the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 6P, both of which were great devices. What's so special about the 3XL? There's nothing in it that isn't found in phones that are way cheaper. For those of you shouting about vanilla android, there is no vanilla android any more. Even Google now includes features that aren't found in any other version of android. But the thing that annoys me the most about pixel phones is Google's price policy. Why oh why are these phones 30% more expensive in Europe?

i just watched unbox therapy's video of the pixel 3 xl. to be honest i like it. yes the notch is bigger than others but it doesnt seem to bother me. maybe i'm too used to it from my iphone x. i wish the area on the sides of the notch would hold more information, but that is where xda comes in. i'm sure some developers can put more info there with their roms. the camera looks amazing. the screen quality finally looks up to par with samsung even though it's still an LG screen. you can tell they have matured their oled screens fast. the build quality looks really good. that soft gorilla glass on the back that doesnt attract finger prints looks like a nice touch. i'm going to objectively give this device a try instead of blindly following the masses of haters. but based of the videos i've watched already i think this device will end up being a great one.

Why do people keep asking why we pay more for phones in Europe? In Europe we pay VAT which adds about 20% to the cost of just about everything. It may not account for all the price difference but it accounts for the majority of it.

Overall Phones are good with price range. Nothing to hate about it. Phone has lot more than other phones with that price range. I had good experience with Pixel 2 XL. Phones are worthy to buy.
People hate about notch trend but I say its only way to cover screen on front. About some trends you will used to it. its not making problem in functionality.
I have Pixel 2 XL why I should by Pixel 3 XL ?
Plus about this phones is Snapdragon 845 , Titan M security module and Wireless Charging in Hardware. + ( Notch some people not like it )
about notch google will provide option to disable notch like one plus 6.
Pixel Cameras are always awesome then others with that price.
I believe Pixel users are 95% genuine users who uses almost every feature that company provide.
Not like iPhone users wasting lots of parent's money to show off just a logo.
Apple call their eco system it is like handcuffs to buy their won stuff and 30% features not work if you don't have other apple products.
[ Pixels = You will get maximum benefit of Artificial Intelligence. This is what I mean. ]

Got my 3 XL yesterday. I'm coming from a 2 XL so I expected a slight upgrade, but I'm finding a lot of things I love that I didn't expect.
- Tap to wake is WAY faster than on the 2. Having both side by side, the 3 wakes up a full second before the 2.
- The screen on the 3 looks sooo good. Crisper even. I never had any complaints about my 2 XL's screen, but I can tell the 3 XL is definitely better
- Speakers are noticeably better. Not sure about how loud they get, but the sound is richer on the 3 than the 2. The 2 is tinnier.
- Wide Angle Selfie camera is pretty cool
- Low light photos are noticeably better. This I didn't expect to notice as much, but a side by side comparison of the same photo with the two phones shows a noticeable improvement. The 2's photo looks duller than the 3. They might look the same after some post processing, but the 3's photo looks great without any touchups.
- Not phone related, but the Google Fabric case covers more of the bottom of the phone than the 2's did.
The only thing I have NOT liked is that with the notch, the number of notification icons in the status bar has been reduced to three, meaning 2 and a dot if you have more. If I reduce the display size to the lowest one, I can get three and a dot. The 2 XL has 4 and a dot. Hopefully we can figure out a way to turn off the clock. I never use it and I'd gladly give it up in exchange for more icons.

After I got the phone I realize it is so much better than expected. And the software polish and hard ware polish is next level

Very nice but some complaints
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.

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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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My 2017 CRV also had trouble the first time I tried to use Android Auto. No map showed up, it gave me an ETA and the first turn arrow, but the only thing that updated was the ETA which was WAY off. When I got to my destination, I restarted the phone and the car, and on my way home, it worked as it normally does.

Happy out here. Got my 3xl 128gb on Verizon pre paid yesterday. Using on SIM in Ireland. Love pretty much everything about the phone. Kinda wish it had face unlocking but otherwise very happy. Everything just works and no bloat.

OK, so this may be biased, but I'm 100% in love with this phone. This is my first pixel phone, and I'm coming from a mid/budget phone, so that may make all the difference, but from the looks, the feels, the screen, the new gestures, the smoothness, the speakers, the call quality, the battery life, to whatever else this phone is, and can do, I love it. I've never had such a great experience from day one on any other phone, and I've been on Android since I got a Nexus One on day one. To me this phone is perfect. There is not one thing I can think of to complain about (OK I do have one. Have the phone either a bit thicker, or find another way to make the camera bump on the back flush).

Coming from a Oneplus 3T here. I am going through an RMA right now for the speaker issue, just to put that out there. With that aside, I love the phone otherwise. My only concern going in was the battery to be honest. The battery was larger than my 3T but still smaller than last year. It is a great phone. A great improvement over my 3T, which was still one of the best phones I've had.

Love the phone. Totally seamless Google experience

Overall impression so far.
Got the phone on Friday, October 19, 2018.
1. Good build quality (better than 2 XL); feels rigid & premium in hand. The frosted glass back is really smooth & good to touch. Better that my ex's skin.
2. Battery life is pretty good too. Same or better than 2 XL. First cycle (WiFi only): from 96%; SOT: 5 hr 10 min in 1 day 10 hrs with 16% to go. It will ofc get better with more cycles & as it learns more. Also, the battery is smaller than that of 2 XL & powers a bigger & better screen & louder speakers.
3. Cameras. Need not say anything.
4. Screen: it is a Samsung panel on the 3 XL, performs like one. Really good. No black clipping for me except maybe on mobile data when speeds are low. That is more like a buffering and pixel issue but no black clipping. Could happen on any phone.
5. I really like the included USB-C Pixel buds; took me 10 minutes to get the right fit & learn to use them (fit them); follow the animations in the first time setup. They are really good. Good bass too.
6. Charging time using charger included in box: from 16% to 100%: around 1 hour 40 minutes. WiFi on. AOD on.
7. Notch: got used to it already & not noticeable anymore. I don't play games on the phone at all.
8. The speakers: a minor issue of imbalanced audio(bottom grill is louder) but no buzzing for me & no muffled sound either. Fixable via software update.
9. RAM management: it is bad rn; fixable by software update as the cause has already looks to be the kernel `lowmemoryKiller` as per some sources when you google.
I see 0 hardware based issues with the phone (apart from notch which is bad design & not an issue for me at least). Other issues will be addressed via an update. I see better performance in the future already. Even the pixel 2 xl got better with updates (at least for me).
Buying the Pixel stand soon.
TL;DR: Love it. Keeping it.

Like the phone...my only issues are with the display brightness and sometimes ram management. My conspiracy is that google dimmed the screen in order to avoid a crappy battery. 100% on this is like 65% on my iphone. Other than that, I love the speakers! Not sure if it's worth the $900

Love it but highly intrigued by the 6T coming next week

I remember when in the Nexus days, everyone said that all vanilla Android needed was a great camera and it'd be perfect. Google listened and produced pixel line with best camera, 3 generations in a row now. Now all anyone can do is nitpick the hardware. I think Google has achieved what most enthusiasts were after.

overall i like it, price should drop $300+ - Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
What: Google Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
good/great:
camera
camera software
free storage of pictures and video
nice to have included earbuds
screen is decent and not overwarm like apple's off white warm screen tones. proper whitebalance, maybe slightly blue, but a very good screen.
fast - fast booting, fast behavior
not so good / annoying:
4 gb ram @ $1000 price point?
128 vs 256/512 ssd at $1000 price point?
no sd card slot - give it a rest google.
included earbuds done noise cancel. why in the world would they do that?
i cant see where 300-400 dollars went for a phone that costs $1000 + $129 in preferred care
insultingly overpriced wireless earbuds
insultingly overpriced wireless dock
insultingly overpriced accessories in general by screwgle.
drm on Qi / fake Qi charging - 10 watts in the drm mode isnt even enough let alone be enough in the drm-allowed mode. 5W is just pathetic.
included wired charger isnt as good as previous pixel chargers. should include the big dual port charger from the pixel c
ifixit score is terrible (4 of 10). right to repair legislation is going to be needed - an industry wide problem - sad to see in a $1000 phone
audio jack missing - why do this?
faceunlock - i do have an iphone X from work (they gave it for free) - i do enjoy that feature.
bad:
- notch is just stupid. its stupid on the X, XS and on 3XL. stop the god damned notches. i just shut the notch off in developer options so its just a waste of pixels but its just poor design.
- pie having that idiotic gesture system and its forced (no developer or hidden option to go back). just copy the iphone's gesture system and be done with this moronic one
overall im happy because $1000 for me isnt breaking the bank but there are plenty of people where $1000 is a bit on the high side and this phone just doesnt deliver that value. its a nice phone and im happy with it - best android has to offer and camera is the most important feature - but google is a jerk, sundar pichai is a greedy jerk and a bad CEO. when i think of sundar pichai i think of a jerk who is also a spineless milquetoast. when i think of Steve Jobs i think of a jerk who was obsessed with aesthetics, beauty, ease of use, wanting to be best of breed, form and function, etc. google needs a better CEO. sundar pichai is a greedy jerk who needs to work at this harder than he does or let someone good take his place

mikeofny said:
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Hey Im coming from the OG pixel xl as well. I currently have the 6t but don't actually find it much of an upgrade from my pixel. Ive got 15 days to return it so Im looking to buy the 3xl instead. Would you say that the upgrade from the OG xl to the 3xl is worth it?? Thanks!

Keep your Pixel 2 XL and don't upgrade to the Pixel 3 XL

I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE

With the P3's lackluster 4GB of RAM, I definitely won't be upgrading to it. I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL for now and see what the OnePlus 7 has to offer.

Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.

going to be doing the same, staying with 2XL. waiting for 4XL.

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Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch! ?

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Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Yeah that huge notch is the main turnoff.

I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.

djcrystals said:
I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.
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Your best value is always last year's top model.

sublimaze said:
Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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I won't consider another Pixel phone until they bump up the Ram to at least 6GB. The notch on the P3XL doesn't bother me as much as its horrible memory management.
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I need dual speakers...that works on Verizon. That's why I snagged the Pixel 2XL..... Had the Moto X Pure prior which had stereo too. It's just a feature I really really enjoy in a phone. I'd like to play with a Razer 2....I know that has stereo speakers...

In my opinion the Nexus era was way better. The upgrades between generations were mostly worth the price. Even if not all of the new features were great, Nexus Devices were way more affordable. You could switch to a newer released model without paying almost 1K every time. Seems to me the Pixel Devices just can't keep up with that. I mean yeah, Camera for example got way better but I'm not seeing to much more that got noticeably better.
Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.

cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Problem is that phones have become a commodity meanwhile, so upgrades oftenly don't make sense anymore. It's like in the PC world, where most notebooks are used until they wear out.
When I bought the original Samsung Galaxy Tab, it seemed to be too slow. With the Asus TF700, it was better, but still too slow and with barely acceptable battery runtime. The Sony Xperia Z2 tablet fixed both, this was the first device which was "good enough" with its Snapdragon 801. Still using it to this day.
The same goes for phones - upgrading from an SGS2 to an SGS4 was like day and night: Such a fast SoC (albeit still a bit too slow), such a gorgeous screen and the incredible speed of LTE!
The Pixel 2 XL also immediately got me: Such a well put together software, superb camera and finally a really good battery runtime. But when I compared rendering a web site on my old LG G5 and the new Pixel 2 XL, there was barely a difference. The reason why the Pixel performs so much better is in the software, not the hardware.
So now I have a phone with a good screen that is fast enough, a camera which is good enough even in low light and a battery runtime which never causes me trouble.
So why the hell should I upgrade now? I could be wrong and the Pixel 4 could bring something radically new or better which makes me upgrade immediately, but I really doubt it. I expect it to be a minor upgrade to the Pixel 3, like the 3 was to the 2.
Hence I plan to simply use my Pixel 2 XL until it breaks down. Why waste money for an upgrade I hardly notice?

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Your best value is always last year's top model.
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This is what I usually do. I can't pay $1k for a phone regardless of how much I use it. I'd rather buy last years flagship phone at about 50-60% of that cost. So, I'll wait another year with my 2XL and see what happens.

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Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.
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Agreed. Since having my P2XL, this is the first year I haven't had a burning desire to upgrade to the "latest & greatest". I will wait and see what P4/XL offers. I prefer a larger display and battery, but if P4XL still has a hideous notch then I'll get a regular P4 or just keep my P2XL until it dies.

As a Note 9 user, I still enjoy using my Pixel 2 XL a lot and I swap my Note 9 with it from time to time, as my daily driver. That phone holds up very well, it's still super fast, the camera is still premium by today's standards, It does less things than my Note 9, and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's rock-solid and reliable, and in the end of the day that's what really matters.
If I was to get a new Pixel today, I'd absolutely pick the Pixel 2 XL over the Pixel 3 XL. The features/performance/price ratio is just way better.

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I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.

alojo said:
I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.
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The iPhone! :laugh::silly::laugh::good:

cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Yes, I looked at the specs and bought the model that was almost 2 years old, no difference, sort of like comparing the Apple X to the XS, no difference. AFAIK, the 3 loses the laser focus that the 2 had.
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Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Agreed, if I wanted an iPhone, I would get one.

Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?

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Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?
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I still dig my phone 2XL. I would not buy a Verizon version at any price but an unlocked Google version is still fun for sure.

Upgrade P2XL to P5....Pointless?

Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?

Since our security updates will end this month, I plan to upgrade for those and take advantage of the strong T-Mobile 5G signal in my area.

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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
If you only now just saw the specs you haven't been following the news. You likely also do not understand why Google didn't go with the 865/865+ in the two devices.
For me, it boils down to which features I consider more important. Right now I'm leaning towards the P5 simply because of the aluminum body, but the 4A 5G and its headphone jack is compelling. I think in the end, it's going to boil down to "do I want to pay the extra $200 or not?"

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Coming from the 2XL... The 5 is an upgrade. As far as the ppi... https://www.androidauthority.com/chasing-pixels-810926/ this article from AA is very good and I'm sure I won't notice it much. But I am going to wait for reviews and actually see it side by side

In case you missed topjohnwu's tweets:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1311370798267990016
Ive never been one of the sheeple, the people who buy into aspirational technology (people who aspire to own somehting because its new and everyone else has one), so its not even a decision for me. Im a fucntional user, if a device performs the functions i need it to, im happy. The only reason i ever upgrade devices is when one is dead, or very much close to being....
I do not get the "new device every 6 months" buyers...i just dont, i think thats insanity
Personally i look at the lines of sheeple at Apple Stores on every release and weep for humanity, and the planet which gets raped to bring people ovepriced (thanks to Apple - they are the root of all evil, not least because they overprice their products, thereby forcing everyone in the market to follow suit, because to do anythign less is to be seen as inferior, so blame Apple, i do, asshat comapny) devices they dont really need
Pretty much the forumula is: new phone = new camera that takes pictures of an even more distant galaxy, hmm very useful in every day life
Some people in some countries have way too much spare money if theyre buying new phones all the time
Im sticking with what works for me, not a corporations bottom line, thanks

Also this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4a-5g-pixel-5-great-value-in-us/

I loved the Pixel 5. I think Google made a small decision to stick with full hd resolution simply because you don't notice as such if the panel is good. It's easy on the battery. It will be easy on the chipset and provide consistent performance.
Pixel 5 does not lack anything as such. The only thing i was a bit disappointed was ufs 2.1 storage. Other than that I'm loving the Pixel 5. I'll get it maybe this Christmas or so!

The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
Forgot about wireless charging too, but personally I've never owned a phone that had wireless charging, so again, not a big deal for me yet.
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sharkie405 said:
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
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I second your thoughts here. 4a5 is certainly a better handset and not much hard hitting on the pocket too!

So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews

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So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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I am changing my mind to OnePlus 8 Pro too, I can go to swappa.com and get for less price than P5 with taxes. I am seriously considering going back to iPhone. Google has been using the same camera sensor hardware since the Pixel 2 came out. That means if Google ported the sofware algorithms to the Pixel 2 it would take pictures the same if not damn close to being the same.

after being a 4 year pixel 2 xl owner... the pixel 5 feels like a natural successor. Jut my opinion though

i currently use a pixel 3 because i prefer the size but im pretty much done with the pixel series. the cost is far too high and the features are less and less. the 4 had no fingerprint reader..... so i was thinking of getting a Zenfone 7. great size, great amount of ram........ EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! but after seeing the OnePlus Nord N10, i might change my mind. ill have to see after the first reviews but it has what i want/need in a phone. google is just too obsessed with trying to either win the apple crowd, or become like apple.
maybe if they ever add features like expandable storage ill buy another pixel but the odds of that happening are not good. knowing google, theyll probably give up on the pixel line after the pixel 7 so i plan on holding on to my Panda Pixel indefinitely.

Okay i changed my decision probably.
I don't think i'll be getting Pixel 5 solely because of outdated hardware. Only if they had upgraded the camera sensors i'd have gone for it. The current sensor is at the end of its life.

I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.

Get rid of P2-XL?
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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
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Depends on your battery. After October, no more OTA's from Google.
If your battery is good, between updates from Google Play Store and LineageOS, I think the phone
would be plenty secure. I plan to keep using mine for awhile. running LineageOS

YoshiFan501 said:
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
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lol Flat screen is such a bliss. My next phone will be a flat screen. I am tired of this curved look and miss touches due to the curve

I went from. The p2xl to the 5, it's definitely an upgrade for me. I love how smooth it feels with the extra ram and 90hs screen, the SD765g has no trouble giving me a great experience on the couple games I do play, (pubg and genshin impact) the battery life for me is about double what the 2xl was and I'm happy to know I'll be getting monthly security updates for the next three years. There are still a couple things I don't like. The top behind the screen speaker is just so-so, far inferior to the 2xl's stereo front firing speakers. However I don't watch or listen to much without headphones or a bt speaker anyways and it does fine for calls. they removed a feature I did actually like.. active edge, I miss sweezing to activate assistant rather than saying hey Google or swiping the corner but still not really a deal breaker for me just so thing to get used to.
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