Hi,
I just root my s8, but find out I'm not able to use secure folder anymore.
Is there any way that I can use it.
Or do I have to remove the root to use secure folder again.
Many thanks
Little-white said:
Hi,
I just root my s8, but find out I'm not able to use secure folder anymore.
Is there any way that I can use it.
Or do I have to remove the root to use secure folder again.
Many thanks
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Generally NO once your phone has been modified you will trip your Knox. Once Knox is tripped you can not use things like secure folder,Shealth, Samsung pay. There is no fix for a tripped knox
spawnlives said:
Generally NO once your phone has been modified you will trip your Knox. Once Knox is tripped you can not use things like secure folder,Shealth, Samsung pay. There is no fix for a tripped knox
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Bastards man, why can't they be like they used to with the S5 and below...
Now they just want people to use dumb phones and scare them away from exploring their own devices potential.
Hi,
If you had something, like the pin or password list, in the secure folder, you did the backup before rooting and now restore it, what happens with that list? Is it restored or not? If yes, where?
Thanks!
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CoreyOS said:
Bastards man, why can't they be like they used to with the S5 and below...
Now they just want people to use dumb phones and scare them away from exploring their own devices potential.
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First, thinking about it, Knox is a bonus. Without Knox you still have access to every function that other Android also have. You can use Google Fit to replace Shealth, Google Pay to Samsung Pay, and Island (by Oasis Feng) or Parallel Space to Secure Folder. Obviously all of these alternatives don't perfectly replace Knox, but there is a reason to root devices lose access to Knox, it's for security. Knox is a subsystem isolated from the rest of the system to store highly confidential information. it's not about you bank data or your nudes, it's to prevent that industrial secrets you could have in your Secure Folder will not be stolen by a malware disguised as a game. There is also a hardware implementation called ARM TrustZone that stores encrypt keys and biometrical data and do security related computing. Remember now that a Root device can be deeply compromised. Normally all we do are tweaks to turn UI better, but you can also change firmware, modify system as you like, etc. To guarantee that your device are safe to store whatever your cautious boss want, Knox could verify every single file of your OS, firmware and beyond, or only verify if a bit have changed from 0x0 to 0x1. That's why they can't be like S5 and below
I'm not here exactly to defend Samsung, only trying to explain why it's works that way (and I'm not an Samsung Employee nor what to spend 3 hours explaining how it's hardware implemented, so what I'm saying is based on my own research)
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Is there anyway to remove knox?
Im not talking about the software knox that secure your files...or the warranty knox.
Im talking about the knox that blocks internal communication or special permissions needed in apps like Gamekeyboard, Tincore keymapper or the new GLTOOLS(like Chainfire 3D)
Thanks.
I believe most people wanted to reset Knox counter because some Samsung app stop working.
Mod kernel to fake knox counter ain't easy isn't it? I didn't see any guide on XDA
I've been thinking for long time, lot of people know how to decompile and mod apk, why not just change the function so Secure Folder can work regardless of knox counter?
I want the secure folder to work so badly but I don't want to use third party apps. We need a hero to post a guide.
Root Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 Android 5.0 - Secure method
I am looking for a safe, secure, foolproof method, from reliable source, from trusted person, with safe elements .
Without data leakage, IMEI theft, backdoors, viruses, ads, system modifications etc. Clean root.
Can you recommend something?
Best KNOX flag 0x0 and With the possibility of unroot.
Something simple and fast will also be an advantage - I am an amateur.
The only reason why I want to do a root of the phone is the security of my data and my privacy. A phone without a privacy manager like App Ops seems like a very dangerous solution. Firewall will also be useful.
Sorry for my English
sn3 said:
Root Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 Android 5.0 - Secure method
I am looking for a safe, secure, foolproof method, from reliable source, from trusted person, with safe elements .
Without data leakage, IMEI theft, backdoors, viruses, ads, system modifications etc. Clean root.
Can you recommend something?
Best KNOX flag 0x0 and With the possibility of unroot.
Something simple and fast will also be an advantage - I am an amateur.
The only reason why I want to do a root of the phone is the security of my data and my privacy. A phone without a privacy manager like App Ops seems like a very dangerous solution. Firewall will also be useful.
Sorry for my English
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Search and read about "cf-auto-root"
Rooting may prevent certain banking type apps working as they see it as insecure .
Thank you very much for the help and information.
Unfortunately, "cf-auto-root" switches the KNOX flag. But it is more important that it is a secure source. Thank you very much.
I did not know about problems with banking applications. Thank you for the information.
If you have any other suggestions, let me know.
I THINK there was a way to root without tripping knox but it required having JB. Now that you are on LL I doubt you will find a way to root without tripping it. Banking apps can be fooled using xposed modules or Magisk systemless root, but again, you'd be tripping knox. If knox is so important to you, I'd stick with stock.
The most important for me is the privacy and security of my data on the phone. Without root, applications use everything they want. I would like to have the Permission Manager to control access to my data on the phone. I would also like to use a normal firewall without VPN.
So, for productivity reasons, I plan to UBL and root the phone to enable dex mode without samsung dex dock.
But, I remember when I root my S7, my samsung gift application stops working (when trying to log in ,a pop up said that there is a problem with the phone identification IIRC), even in the ROM that has a "de-knoxed" feature.
Meanwhile, using that ROM, I can still use private folder (secure folder), samsung health, etc.
I already flashed my region CSC as well (XID, Indonesia), so I really have no clue about whats stopping the app.
Is there any way to re-enable the samsung gift app after the phone is UBL-ed and rooted?
Hey all,
I upgraded my ZTE Axon 7 rooted and whatnot to a Samsung Galaxy S8+ about 4 months ago but have really missed being rooted at times. I have gotten a few warning emails from Samsung stating that Knox will be discontinued and replaced with Secure Folder soon, and I was wondering, if Knox ceases to exist, will there still be a reason not to root?
I use Secure Folder quite a lot, but my country doesn't support Samsung Pay yet so the main reason I'm asking is, when Secure Folder replaces Knox - will it still have some issues with rooting? Outside of Samsung Pay and Warranty void etc. I don't wanna lose access to Secure Folder but some of the things I wanna be able to do with my phone require root access :/
Thanks for any input and happy new year to you all!
- TriixstaR
What should start requiring root access that doesn't now? You don't come clear here. Maybe at some point someone manages to make secure folder working while rooted, But there are alternatives if thats what you are asking.
Augustin.2 said:
What should start requiring root access that doesn't now? You don't come clear here. Maybe at some point someone manages to make secure folder working while rooted, But there are alternatives if thats what you are asking.
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Sorry, perhaps I should have been more clear: I haven't rooted yet because of the fact that rooting trips Knox but I'm more thinking if Knox is no more, would there then be this same sort of system just with Secure Folder instead?
Things like Pokemon Go spoofing and modifying APK files are things I've dabbled with in the past and have missed doing so with my S8+ hence the question if it will be "safe" to root as far as Knox/Secure Folder goes when we get to a point where Knox is no more.
Just out of interest, what kinds of apps work the same as Secure Folder? I have never really needed to find alternatives as I've always just used Secure Folder, but would be interesting to know any experience you have with other similar apps?
Knox will continue to exist. Only the MyKnox app is being replaced with secure folder.
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CASz said:
Knox will continue to exist. Only the MyKnox app is being replaced with secure folder.
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Damn, okay well thanks for clearing that up!
TriixstaR said:
Damn, okay well thanks for clearing that up!
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No problem. Knox is their security system that allows them to compete in thee corporate world. If you don't care about thaat, go ahead and root. If you have a physical warranty problem it won't be apparent and if you have a software prooblemm, you should be able to resolve it using Odin and community support.
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TriixstaR said:
Sorry, perhaps I should have been more clear: I haven't rooted yet because of the fact that rooting trips Knox but I'm more thinking if Knox is no more, would there then be this same sort of system just with Secure Folder instead?
Things like Pokemon Go spoofing and modifying APK files are things I've dabbled with in the past and have missed doing so with my S8+ hence the question if it will be "safe" to root as far as Knox/Secure Folder goes when we get to a point where Knox is no more.
Just out of interest, what kinds of apps work the same as Secure Folder? I have never really needed to find alternatives as I've always just used Secure Folder, but would be interesting to know any experience you have with other similar apps?
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Well, Parallels space is the one I feel works the best.