So because the V20 doesn't fast charge when the screen is on, does this make the phone useless when navigating on long trips as the charge won't be enough to counter the drain that gmaps requires?
If so, is there a way around this? I'm using an H918.
I just recently drove a trip that was a Lil over a thousand miles each way, took me about 20 hours there then 3 days later 20 hours back. I used the v20 for navigation the whole way there and back. The way there I had charged the phone fully before I left., but had the screen at roughly 85 percent brightness. The phone stayed charged fully the whole way. On the way back I didn't have a chance to charge the phone before I left and was actually worried that if the charger didn't charge it enough in the truck then it might go dead with the use of navigation and ask the sensors and everything it uses for navigation. My fears were needless, it charged slowly but charged..
Now I know this may not be the technical answer you hoped for but from my experience I would say you shouldn't have a problem navigating with screen on as long as your charging...now it was very hot the whole time with screen on and charging for 20hours. Hope this helps
I agree, my experience has been the same. The phone charges "slowly" while using Navigation, podcasting, etc.
Thanks for the great and informative answer. Doesn't sound like a problem at all then.
Are you on rooted?
Trying https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705
The v20 does fast charge. First make sure you actually have a good fast charger. Second, make sure that the cable you are using is a high quality usb cable. The usb cable can make all of the difference. Don't use the cheap cables that come with the chargers. I use the old oem cables that came with my pixel and they are outstanding.
Or look for usb 3.1 certified cables.
The phone does heat up when its fast charging so i usually re-direct one of the car vents towards the phone.
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The v20 does fast charge. First make sure you actually have a good fast charger. Second, make sure that the cable you are using is a high quality usb cable. The usb cable can make all of the difference. Don't use the cheap cables that come with the chargers. I use the old oem cables that came with my pixel and they are outstanding.
Or look for usb 3.1 certified cables.
The phone does heat up when its fast charging so i usually re-direct one of the car vents towards the phone.
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I picked up some Anker powerline+ cables so we'll see how those perform.
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I picked up some Anker powerline+ cables so we'll see how those perform.
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I forgot exactly where and my phone is not in front of me. I think it was the settings pull down from the top. When its fast charging you should see it say fast charging on that screen.
I went though at least a dozen chargers until i figured out it was the cable limiting the current to the phone. Also the longer the cable, the higher the resistance. So generally speaking the thicker the cable, the better it will work.
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I forgot exactly where and my phone is not in front of me. I think it was the settings pull down from the top. When its fast charging you should see it say fast charging on that screen.
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I think the V20 only goes into fast charge when the screen is off.
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I think the V20 only goes into fast charge when the screen is off.
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That is not my experience.
When the phone is connected to a fast charger, the pull down from notifications should show a notification:
Android System
Fast charging Percentage
Conntected to a fast charger
even when the screen is on. Let me know if you need a screenshot.
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I think the V20 only goes into fast charge when the screen is off.
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Correct and if you have an inline usb meter like i do then you will see it gets to 12W with screen off and around 5W with screen on.
The way you tell if fast charging is working is you will see a circle around the thunderbolt up on the status bar. This means the fast charge protocol has successfully negotiated and will commence when the screen turns off. Should display within a few seconds of plugging in.
Make sure the cable is properly seated in the phone and on the charging end. I usually charge from a power bank and sometimes that usb A end doesn't go in completely into the port on the power bank. Phone promptly mentions slow charging.
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I went though at least a dozen chargers until i figured out it was the cable limiting the current to the phone. Also the longer the cable, the higher the resistance. So generally speaking the thicker the cable, the better it will work.
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For a long while i used the charging cable that came with my G4 because that was a 20/28 20 meaning thicker for power than the anker powerline cable which is only 24/28. Anker doesn't make any 20/28 ones. Doesn't matter how fancy the braiding is.
I then went back to the stock ribbon cable. I tried with 6 inch cables and you know what. No discernable difference in charging speeds when it comes to the low power of a phone.
I say low because relative to a power bank it is. Mine takes up to 21W to quick charge and here a shorter thicker cable makes a difference. Though using the stock ribbon cables provided by the power bank again yielded similar acceptable results.
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I like many people was having issues where the AC adapter would randomly stop charging my tablet. Someones it would start working again soon after and sometimes almost an entire day would go by before it started working again.
Tried the freezer trick with no results. Was going to send it back to Asus when I noticed 2 things.
1. The adapter was very not every time it stopped charging.. hotter than it usually gets when functioning correctly.
2. It only ever stops charging when i'm using a usb 3.0 extension cable.
To test this i stopped using the extension able for about 2 weeks and the adapter functioned properly the entire time. Then last night I reconnected the extension cable and within 5 minutes of of being plugged in charging stopped and the adapter was extremely hot. This obviously leads me to believe that the extension cable is in some way effecting the adapters voltage or something and causing it to malfunction. So I'm curious as to how many of the others who having issues are also using extension cables.
Not the voltage the current the more current it has to push the hotter its going to get and the chargers for these are not designed for extensions they where designed to be small and charge the tf even then there at there limit
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I also was having trouble with over heating and have been using an 3.0 extension cable. I will stop using it and report back.
hshoem1
its a design flaw with the ac addapters and its one of the reasons that the cable that ships with the transformer is so short
I was just using the cable as is with no extension and it died on my twice. I now have it rigged up to charge from my PC's PSU and only use the adapter when I'm not at my house.
My charger melted my damn usb cable. Thats how hot it got..
I wasnt using the extension cable at the time.
The adaptor would always warm up, which i read was normal. A few days ago, however, i felt some heat on the cable itself.When i reached to the connector, i noticed it had literally melted the rubber casing off the wire.
Im in the process of sending it back today
Just had my second charger die on me! I was charging my Dock and Tablet during class from 2:50-4:10 and when I unplugged it the charger was pretty hot. I went back home and connected the TF to my rigged up PSU charger and then went to class at 6:10 and plugged in the charger and unsurprisingly it wouldn't charge!
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Ive heard reports of people solving these problems by swapping round the mains pins ( I guess only in countries that use 2 pin outlets, UK have 3 )
I am sure this will sound nuts but, put the wall charger in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer for a few hours. Please do not forget the plastic bag. There is a thermal heat fuse inside the brick that needs to be reset. If it is still working the cold will make it reconnect and bring the brick back to working order.
You should make a DIY charger by following "DevCake" thread on DIY AC and DC chargers for the TF.
Hope this helps.
hshoem1
I just do not understand why we would have to go out of our way for their crappy idea of a charger. I understand the idea of not allowing aftermarket chargers because they want the money for the chargers but i mean if you do that then at least make something worth having besides giving us a heater...does this remind anyone of the rrod( red ring of death) for the xbox... to much of a hurry to send out their product they didnt really test EVERY aspect of their device...this makes me sad..and then need to send it back and what not taking up more of our time then not being able to use the tablet because your chargers going back... i wish customer service was better....that is all
just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter. and besides charging while the tab is docked into the keyboard is kinda a waste as its charging the keyboard dock, and at the same time its discharging and trying to charge the tab at the same time. hence causing the strain on the adapter.
besides charging both at once will just kill the keyboard dock in the long run
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I like many people was having issues where the AC adapter would randomly stop charging my tablet. Someones it would start working again soon after and sometimes almost an entire day would go by before it started working again.
Tried the freezer trick with no results. Was going to send it back to Asus when I noticed 2 things.
1. The adapter was very not every time it stopped charging.. hotter than it usually gets when functioning correctly.
2. It only ever stops charging when i'm using a usb 3.0 extension cable.
To test this i stopped using the extension able for about 2 weeks and the adapter functioned properly the entire time. Then last night I reconnected the extension cable and within 5 minutes of of being plugged in charging stopped and the adapter was extremely hot. This obviously leads me to believe that the extension cable is in some way effecting the adapters voltage or something and causing it to malfunction. So I'm curious as to how many of the others who having issues are also using extension cables.
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Mine doesn't speed charge my Transformer even without the extension cable. Maybe I'll do some testing with that though and check the heat, since the damn thing doesn't work anymore anyways. Though I might not get any results because of that
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reaperzero said:
just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter. and besides charging while the tab is docked into the keyboard is kinda a waste as its charging the keyboard dock, and at the same time its discharging and trying to charge the tab at the same time. hence causing the strain on the adapter.
besides charging both at once will just kill the keyboard dock in the long run
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There are many problems with the charger, many different problems.
I barely use my dock, so I have only been charging my TF standalone. Still stopped working though late last week.
Hmmm, issues here as well...
Charger stopped working at times and then start working again... Now it's not working and sticks with that plan. Pluggin in the charger with the TF turned off makes it boot so something IS happening, it doesn't charge though.
Luckily I have another charger (no original asus but using another adapter + usb-cablethingie) so I can atleast charge it, but still. Was thinking of buying another asus adapter (the travelpack) but really doubting it now if it's a general issue.
Will try the freezer trick anyway and some other stuff... Quite annoying though (for an otherwise excellent product).
i thought the accessories that comes with the TF are all covered under a one year warranty?
and the problem with the adapters suddenly dying is probably the capacitors in the charger or the stepdown transformer in it anyone had a chance to open one yet?
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just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter.
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An Asus UK tech support guy actually told me not to charge both the tablet and dock at the same time. Pretty poor if you ask me. They just went silent when I pushed the matter.
They have compromised the design in their desire to make a fashionably tiny charger.
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Hmmm, issues here as well...
Charger stopped working at times and then start working again... Now it's not working and sticks with that plan. Pluggin in the charger with the TF turned off makes it boot so something IS happening, it doesn't charge though.
Luckily I have another charger (no original asus but using another adapter + usb-cablethingie) so I can atleast charge it, but still. Was thinking of buying another asus adapter (the travelpack) but really doubting it now if it's a general issue.
Will try the freezer trick anyway and some other stuff... Quite annoying though (for an otherwise excellent product).
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Actually it is charging, but not with the voltage it requires for the "quick charge". Mine does the same thing. If you turn off the screen or turn off the TF and leave it plugged in, it charges at ~3%/hour. Not very useful if you're a heavy user but better than nothing until you get a new charger.
I may be really lucky: the only time I've ever had a failure to charge, has been fixed by taking off the plug and snapping it back.
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Actually it is charging, but not with the voltage it requires for the "quick charge". Mine does the same thing. If you turn off the screen or turn off the TF and leave it plugged in, it charges at ~3%/hour. Not very useful if you're a heavy user but better than nothing until you get a new charger.
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Now you mention this, it indeed does... slow but it does charge. Damnit, luckily I have another charger but this annoys the crap out of me.
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Now you mention this, it indeed does... slow but it does charge. Damnit, luckily I have another charger but this annoys the crap out of me.
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Oh yeah me too
I'm going to get another charger tomorrow when I go pick up a joystick for Battlefield 3
Then I'll contact Asus I guess and get it RMA'ed. Going to try and get some free shipping out of them. Sometimes I am successful sometimes not haha
Spidey01 said:
I may be really lucky: the only time I've ever had a failure to charge, has been fixed by taking off the plug and snapping it back.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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I get the same, snap off the plug convertor and back on again and back in business again!
My phone only goes into charging mode when I plug it in to my computer. Anyone have this problem?
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My phone only goes into charging mode when I plug it in to my computer. Anyone have this problem?
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Have not had this problem myself. Try another USB charger? Just about anything that's 500mA will work (albeit not nearly as fast as the 2.0 amp charger that came with your phone).
I suspect your charger.
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Have not had this problem myself. Try another USB charger? Just about anything that's 500mA will work (albeit not nearly as fast as the 2.0 amp charger that came with your phone).
I suspect your charger.
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It was the cable. I really didn't suspect it would be that since I have barely used it and I've only had it for two weeks. Thanks!
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It was the cable. I really didn't suspect it would be that since I have barely used it and I've only had it for two weeks. Thanks!
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Good to hear it was a simple solution. You might check with the place you purchased it from to see if they will provide a new cable. I guess we can just be glad you didn't find out about the cable during the middle of an Odin flash...
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Good to hear it was a simple solution. You might check with the place you purchased it from to see if they will provide a new cable. I guess we can just be glad you didn't find out about the cable during the middle of an Odin flash...
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No kidding. That would hurt a little
I am now having this problem after my phone got wet. No AC or DC chargers will work but the phone will always charge from a computer or even the USB interface of a car.
Even if I can get an AC or DC charger to be recognized, the phone will show as charging but the battery will continue to decline.
It is making no sense to me though I assume getting the phone wet partially fried something.
Yeah the voltage is increased to charge you battery when on AC power, at the kernel level. USB voltage is lower. So i'd say surely fried, and will no doubt stop working sooner or later.
I know that on my s2 I had an issue where it would say its charging and when I woke up in the morning no charge at all. The pin/row of pins or bar if you will would bend down and not make good contact. I used a tooth pick to pry up on it every time it did that.
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Yeah the voltage is increased to charge you battery when on AC power, at the kernel level. USB voltage is lower. So i'd say surely fried, and will no doubt stop working sooner or later.
I know that on my s2 I had an issue where it would say its charging and when I woke up in the morning no charge at all. The pin/row of pins or bar if you will would bend down and not make good contact. I used a tooth pick to pry up on it every time it did that.
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Thanks. I didn't realize that the charging port was removable on the S4 so I swapped that out and all is fine now. :good:
Ummm... No its not the voltage. It is the ID pin. The voltage stays the same. The only actual difference is the milliamp mAH output of the charger. A normal USB plug has 500mA our charger has 2000. How the phone tells the difference? The 2 data pins inside he charger are shorted together. The voltage always stays the same.
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Just got my Nexus 10. Where is the Menu button?
I'm looking for the sleep timer in Pandora. I know I could access it under the Menu button in other device, but this Nexus 10 doesn't have the Menu button and not showing anything similar. I dig under settings but nothing there about SLEEP.
Background, I did all the updates and got KitKat. I don't know what they change/improve with KitKat but I'm not impress.
A few more questions...... should I dig to find the CPUID if worse come to worst should I need it? My A500 needed the CPUID to get access when it bite the dust. I hadn't root or anything yet, I did that with the A500 but seem nothing I do need root. I spent months looking through and trying to fix my A500. Nothing work. Can't flash any of the ROM, can't restore. All I got are Acer logo/dead android icon/attempting to read backup.zip rom from microSD. Seem like the memory is corrupted.
What accessories do you get for your Nexus 10? I got the adapter cable miniUSB to full size USB so I can plug in my flash drive. Sux Nexus don't have microSD.
What case do you like and why?
thanks.
PS: I did search and seem like none of you guys sleep listening to music.
Lots of view but nobody is replying... how come?
I can't believe this tablet take so long to charge from zero % to 100%. I've start charging it since 9am and now it's 4:12pm and only 97% charged. wow Using the AC charger that come with this tablet. Manual said the charger is 2A but the tiny text spec on the charger said 0.2A.
Well I can answer the charging. Buya pogo charger. Also for a case the moko slim is a good cheap case.
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abdel12345 said:
Well I can answer the charging. Buya pogo charger. Also for a case the moko slim is a good cheap case.
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thanks for the reply. I read it wrong... input is 100-240 with 0.35A. The output is 2A at 5V. That match with the owner manual. But wow that is a very long time to full charge. I think spec for USB is 3A max. I'll check out the moko case later. thanks.
battery charge time, usb.
workerantDroid said:
Lots of view but nobody is replying... how come?
I can't believe this tablet take so long to charge from zero % to 100%. I've start charging it since 9am and now it's 4:12pm and only 97% charged. wow Using the AC charger that come with this tablet. Manual said the charger is 2A but the tiny text spec on the charger said 0.2A.
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USB is limited to 5V, the charger is putting out 2A, or 2000ma per hour so 9000Mah should = 4.5 hours, But:
max microusb can handle 1.8A, so it becomes 5 hours.
Power loss in charging (e.g. heat) is about 10%-20% (each battery is different) so becomes 5.5-6.25hr
Above 85%, to protect the battery from overheating and over-voltage, as part of battery longevity, it slowly moves into trickle charge. Compare how long it takes from say 60%-70% to 90%-100%, there is little to gain in waiting to go from 97% to 100%. Next time look after 6 hours it should have been 90%. See this chart.
You can overcome one of these limitations by use of Pogo cable which isn't limited by 1.8A of microUSB and can give 2A. Side-benefit is it is magnetically connecting so doesn't wear out your data socket microUSB with all the plugging in to get electricity. It will still trickle-charge but get you to 85% faster.
I confirmed today that the Pogo cable does not disable the microUSB socket i could use a USB harddrive (Stickmount) and use my 4G USB dongle (PPP-Widget, kernel replacement), whilst receiving power, but the 2Amp input is still not enough to charge and tax the N10 with power demands, it was slowly still discharging powering ~600mah USB harddrive plus full brightness display plus Wifi was >2A slightly.
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thanks for the reply. I read it wrong... input is 100-240 with 0.35A. The output is 2A at 5V. That match with the owner manual. But wow that is a very long time to full charge. I think spec for USB is 3A max. I'll check out the moko case later. thanks.
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Also the menu button should pop up on the right side of the soft key bar in apps that need it. And if you want faster charging you can buy a pogo cable which charges faster but it costs 25 dollars. I would recommend just charging before going to sleep and remove it early in the morning. It takes about 5-6 hours to charge fully from a low battery like 10 percent so an extra hour shouldn't make a difference on the charger. I looked it up and it said that it's best not to leave it longer than 9 hours on charge but less than that should be fine and that was for a phone so im sure the tablet can stay longer without issues.
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What accessories do you get for your Nexus 10? ....
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So there is an accessories thread.....
So I've had a N7 for 17 month and a N4 for 11 month and N10 for 4 days. My experience has led me to focusing on energy input to balance the large output from the larger screen. Battery logs shows a lot more goes into the display than my N7. The power input is still only limited by microUSB plus you got the trickle-charge >85%.
So here's my list:
A dual 2.1A PSU, to get as much current as possible from the wall when I'm near a wall. The Samsung supplied one is 2Amp which is perfectly fine as the supplied MicroUSB cable is limited to 1.8A anyways, so the Pogo cable not having that limit is limited by the PSU so got a slightly higher Ampage one which can also charge something else concurrently. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSC7FW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A 2Amp-input slim battery, this is only 5000mah but there are larger. This one fits in my pocket slim like my N4 and N7 I got larger 7000mah and 12000mah USB batteries which only 1A input. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EK3UHS8/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pogo cable which is not limited by the 1.8A of the microUSB port, it complements the 2.1A PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2166BS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case with removable keyboard. " MoKo BlueTooth Wireless Keyboard Cover Case for Google Nexus 10" (10-inch) Tablet by SAMSUNG, BLACK " but doesn't seem sold any more, it is to go beyond the edges of the N10 itself to assist with a drop-test and comfortable props on my lap or on desk with/without keyboard. The Pogo cable also complements the case as its magnetically connected so if cable is pulled it will come away easier and no damage to the N10 microUSB socket.
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PS: I did search and seem like none of you guys sleep listening to music.
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Hmmm, I do in hotels and other situations where noise is an issue sleep with noise-isolating headphones, a Buff to keep headphones in my ears and either a brown noise or pink noise depending what is the noise type in the hotel, works good when the guy in the floor above bangs his doors from 1am and the guy next door banging around from 5am. I'd typically NOT do that with a N10 but my N4 which I have anyways in Airplane mode to not be disturbed and with an alarm set so I wake when I want to not earlier.
I guess... you mean sleep with music coming through the N10's speakers? Well its rare I could do that, either wife or someone in next hotel room or I'm on a flight and need headphones which don't annoy the next seat so noise-isolating earbuds are what I use, nice to have the speakers.
I also have one of these http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-OT6001-Bluetooth-Adapter-Devices/dp/B009A136T2 which allows me to not cable connected to gadget (phone, N7, N10, laptop, etc) and it lets me use regular headphones which only last for me 3-6 months and is cheaper over the long term than bluetooth headphones.
nigelhealy said:
So there is an accessories thread.....
So I've had a N7 for 17 month and a N4 for 11 month and N10 for 4 days. My experience has led me to focusing on energy input to balance the large output from the larger screen. Battery logs shows a lot more goes into the display than my N7. The power input is still only limited by microUSB plus you got the trickle-charge >85%.
So here's my list:
A dual 2.1A PSU, to get as much current as possible from the wall when I'm near a wall. The Samsung supplied one is 2Amp which is perfectly fine as the supplied MicroUSB cable is limited to 1.8A anyways, so the Pogo cable not having that limit is limited by the PSU so got a slightly higher Ampage one which can also charge something else concurrently. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSC7FW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A 2Amp-input slim battery, this is only 5000mah but there are larger. This one fits in my pocket slim like my N4 and N7 I got larger 7000mah and 12000mah USB batteries which only 1A input. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EK3UHS8/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pogo cable which is not limited by the 1.8A of the microUSB port, it complements the 2.1A PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2166BS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case with removable keyboard. " MoKo BlueTooth Wireless Keyboard Cover Case for Google Nexus 10" (10-inch) Tablet by SAMSUNG, BLACK " but doesn't seem sold any more, it is to go beyond the edges of the N10 itself to assist with a drop-test and comfortable props on my lap or on desk with/without keyboard. The Pogo cable also complements the case as its magnetically connected so if cable is pulled it will come away easier and no damage to the N10 microUSB socket.
Hmmm, I do in hotels and other situations where noise is an issue sleep with noise-isolating headphones, a Buff to keep headphones in my ears and either a brown noise or pink noise depending what is the noise type in the hotel, works good when the guy in the floor above bangs his doors from 1am and the guy next door banging around from 5am. I'd typically NOT do that with a N10 but my N4 which I have anyways in Airplane mode to not be disturbed and with an alarm set so I wake when I want to not earlier.
I guess... you mean sleep with music coming through the N10's speakers? Well its rare I could do that, either wife or someone in next hotel room or I'm on a flight and need headphones which don't annoy the next seat so noise-isolating earbuds are what I use, nice to have the speakers.
I also have one of these http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-OT6001-Bluetooth-Adapter-Devices/dp/B009A136T2 which allows me to not cable connected to gadget (phone, N7, N10, laptop, etc) and it lets me use regular headphones which only last for me 3-6 months and is cheaper over the long term than bluetooth headphones.
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thanks. I ordered that pogo cable. so expensive but no other choice.
I mean the sleep in Pandora. I want to set Pandora to turn off in about 30mins or so. but I can't find this menu to get to set sleep. any1 find this sleep?
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I mean the sleep in Pandora. I want to set Pandora to turn off in about 30mins or so. but I can't find this menu to get to set sleep. any1 find this sleep?
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From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606
well just a generic timed app killer app?
sharksfan7 said:
From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606
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What about killing the Pandora app after a given amount of time? Say this one (I not tried but it looks like a good candidate)
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From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606
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I never thought they would remove that specifically for tablet. never occur to me. thanks. at leat that confirm I'm not blind.
Anyone tried wireless charging on DT2 or MXF ? And how was the experience ?
Works, nothing special - overnight charge from 1% to 100%
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
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It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
My phone gets very warm wireless charging. I prefer fast charge
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Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Never had a problem with that in the past even with wired chargers. I don't think in recent phones that there is actual current on the battery at all times past 100% whether charging wirelessly or wired. I'm pretty sure it goes into a maintenance mode, but it will still show charging on the display which is the important part. That is important if you use it on your nightstand as an alarm clock with wireless charging. My Sony Z3v had no problems staying in a charge state even after 100% but my Turbo 2 does not which causes it to disconnect. It will reconnect after it loses about 5%. If I don't have it silenced, it will wake me up when it reconnects. It also affects any tasks you have programmed to happen when it is charging.
From my understanding, the first Turbo did not have this problem. I think it cropped up from the inclusion of the powermat charging or maybe something related to the 810 processor. Anyway, just waiting for a definitive answer from Moto.
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Xelios029 said:
Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
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Read the thread at the Moto Support Forums. https://forums.motorola.com/posts/215aa2bb51
It doesn't seem to affect everyone which may mean it is more dependent on your charger.
damkol said:
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
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ahahahahhaha.....it's really cheap !!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
RGDROID said:
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
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Have any Qi charger brand to propose ?
I'm using a Samsung Qi puck - not the newer round plastic one, but the older more squared soft-touch one. Works great, I don't have the 100% disconnect issue.
I use the tylt qi charger the desk top one so my phone is sitting at a 60 degree angle. It works great no issues and every morning my phone is at 100% and cool to the touch
This all sounds encouraging. I think it would be helpful if people could also add a few common notes:
charger / model
any case they have on the phone (or not) when using a Qi charger
whether the phone must be in a certain orientation (e.g., horizontal vs vertical) to charge
whether the phone is at 100% - and stays there after a charge
whether the phone is cool / warm / hot once charged
A cleaned up list developed from this would be a good resource for the user community
Tylt works great phone gets warm. Itian charger is cheap from Amazon but is very finicky.
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Really, Zeljko?
Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
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You're talking like battery expert. Well, maybe you're. Then contact those guys and tell them they're wrong
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries
I picked up 3 Samsung qi chargers at 6 quid each on offer on Amazon (UK). They work very well although they are more a convenience thing rather than a method of charging. I use one at work. One in the bedroom and one next to the Xbox great for the work desk to keep the device topped up and frees you up from plugging and unplugging constantly BUT.... It takes absolutely ages to charge so you dont go expecting to be dumping your cabled chargers. I use the work one most of the time as I'm out and about a lot and its very useful to be able to just grab the phone without unplugging and placing back on the pad when at the desk. The turbo charger gets used at home more coz in more likely to plug in to that and jump in the shower knowing that I'll have a nice reserve of power for the pub so yes they work as advertised and work well great as a trickle charge device when you ain't in a rush. If anyone is interested ping me and I'll spend some time on giving more detailed stats such as charge times from 0% and model number of the devices I use. Away for work at the mo so probably the weekend
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Raynic
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
Verizon QI charge stand, Verizon case, have to charge upside down
To charge our new Turbo Droid 2 in a Verizon QI stand with the Verizon case on it, the phone must be upside down. It's OK if out of the case. We have a car QI 'base' which it won't charge in either; probably exact same issue, whatever that is. Any ideas appreciated!
jdmba said:
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung...shipments-for-more-quality-testing-1472647803
Sorry if you can't read it
Those damn cheap microusb to usb-c connectors and cheap large voltage chargers .. sheesh. I've had no trouble with mine but then again I have quality chargers and cables I bought for my 6P. My Note 7 doesn't even get warm when charging .. at least nothing noticeable.
Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
Seems to be a problem with the international models.
dkb218 said:
Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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It's not that it's unapproved. It's that they are using cheap cables and chargers. We went through this crap with the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P. Cheap chargers and cables can do damage.
Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
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Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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Fast charging? As I understand it - and I could be wrong - the problem isn't fast charging. it's people using unapproved USB-C cables and or chargers.
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Well, from the looks of it. Even Anker who is pretty reliable issued a recall for almost all their usb-c cables.
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I use these with my Note 7 and Nexus 6P. Unless I just got lucky and got 6 good cables .. I use them everywhere .. work, car (Android Auto) and home .. then these are good. I highly doubt a USB-C cable that works brilliantly with the Nexus 6P would fry the Note 7. I've had mine for 12 days and when I hook the Note 7 up in my truck for AA it's charging as well and it never gets much warmer than if it were on the wireless Samsung charger.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YQFMWK6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm. I don't think fast charging is the issue with this. The guy in China who reported this which later was picked up on Reddit .. his cable was just some black microusb cable with a while adapter on it and no further info. If the cable was a piece of crap and he was using a cheap wall charger .. Samsung adapter or not I think this was the cause of the boom. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Like said about .. the usb-c cable/charger subject was discussed to death about the OnePlus3 and Nexus 6P (Macbook as well) .. and it's always the same thing. Don't use cheap junk. :good:
just be careful what ur using
http://www.slashgear.com/anker-recalls-refunds-usb-c-cable-over-faulty-implementation-28453688/
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Maybe something is wrong with yours. My Note 7 has been sitting on the Samsung wireless charger on my desk at 100% for the last hour. Since all this has made me paranoid .. I pick it up every so often and touch it to my face. It's not even lukewarm.
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If your phone is at 100%, then it's not charging. Therefore, it won't be warm. When the battery gets low, 30-40% and it's on fast-charge, it gets very warm. I don't know about the wireless charger, but it's warm with the cable. Either way, I disabled fast-charge and no more warmth.
Are we far away from FW update limiting charge current? I turned off fast charging due to phone getting hot, which is not healthy for batteries, especially if those are hard to replace and I charge overnight anyway, but on some occasion I could be in rush to charge and fast charging is the solution and I want fast charge as option, but if things go like that, the easiest fix for Samsung would be to eliminate fast charge for now.
All phones should get warm while fast charging. S7 Edge did the same thing, so did the nexus 6p.
I charge mine with fast charging every single time.
i use quick charge no problems here
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It could be they are using these cable that's being recall?
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
Some Anker USB C cable sold at Amazon last month could blow you note 7 up.
Guys please check if you have these Anker cable and return it back to manufacture.
http://lifehacker.com/some-anker-usb-c-cables-are-getting-recalled-for-a-hard-1785887067
If that cable delivers 20 volts designed for PC, to the phone designed for 9v max, that would double the amperage and quadruple total power drawn, I can easily see how that could burn the whole phone to crisp.
Going back to fast charge on N7, I'm sure it's well designed and the heat well within specs (it's even mentioned in manual), but the fact remains that higher operating temp of battery, the lower (slightly) life span of the battery. With battery sealed inside and rather difficult to replace I want to prolong it's life to maximum and if I charge overnight, which I do often, don't care if it even takes 6hrs. BTW if the faulty cable is the real culprit, it's a very good news and shipping of N7 should resume soon. It would be shame if such a good phone got bad reputation undeserved.
http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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-BoneZ- said:
You're probably right. My Note 7 gets pretty warm when using fast-charge. And batteries don't like heat. So, since I don't really need fast-charge when I charge my phone most of the time, I turned it off. Phone no longer gets warm when charging.
Besides, batteries will last longer without excessive fast-charging.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/reports-samsung-considering-note-7-recall-battery-pack-blame-714126/
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Actually, it's not. It was reported on quite a few sites that Samsung sourced the battery packs locally for it's variations. So the South Korean company that made the battery packs for the South Korean release is the one that is possibly the cause of all this hoopla. The few handsets out of the millions produced that have had issues with these crap cables and chargers have been in South Korea. None of the EU/NorthAm phones have been reported to have had this happen at all. Maybe unnamed sources that aren't Samsung themselves should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe we should wait for an official statement from Samsung before running in circles and screaming the sky is falling. It's a thought.
I'm not saying it couldn't be a massive, global recall but based on the 30+ articles I've read .. most of which messaged to me by my iPhone owning friends .. this seems like a bad batch in South Korea. I had a gasket issue on my motorcycle that was part of a recall .. will I stop buying that brand because of it. No. And before you start talking about fire and explosions .. oil spewing out of a gasket onto a tire while doing 70mph ... same thing.
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Turn off fast charging in settings, problem solved.
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oh yeah? turn off a key feature of the phone, and problem solved?
if the camera was faulty, would you simply not use it, and be okay with it?
the iris scanner, if it didn't work, would you just disable it?