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I spilt a cup of water over my wizard, and now its broken :-(
If I leave it to dry, is there a chance it will work after a few days? Or is it kaputt now?
This thread may give you a little hope....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54874
i really hope so. the little litmus paper thing has turned pink, so i dnt think i got the battery out quick enough. gah, feel like crying! my baby phone!
so yesterday i spilled coke on the speaker went to sleep(WAS ULTRA DRUNK) woke up speaker sounds like a dying bird
ive put it in rice now is there anyway it will get back to normal ? cuz coke is not water its sugary and ppl say here on forums that it survived water just need to dry out
Probably all stuck up with the sugar in the coke.
I'd put the phone under some running warm water (not hot!) to try and dissipate some of that sugar from the speaker then leave it to dry off some - of course ensure you have the back cover and USB cover fitted properly!
Cheers
Paul
What if it was a Diet Coke.
Trying to rinse a phone under running water is risky and could possibly ruin your entire phone. Your phone is water resistant to occasional water exposure, not water proof. Certainly not Coke proof.
You can try "cleaning" the speaker by using a small syringe or kid's water pistol to gently splash a small amount of water on the speaker, then let it dry out thoroughly before turning your phone on. Blot any excess water and put the phone in a sealed plastic bag with silica gel packets to speed drying. No guarantees, but it may improve or even resolve the problem.
If you are willing to open the case or it's outside of warranty anyway, remove the speaker and clean it while it's separated from the phone. Or even better just replace it. The part is cheap on the internet if you can replace it yourself. If you're not mechanically inclined, then bite the bullet and have it professionally repaired. Probably $75 - $100, most of which is labour. Probably no more than you spent at the club or bar that led up to this anyway.
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well i actually bought it only a week ago so its under warranty but i dont think they will do anything except charge me for a new speaker after i say a drop of coke hit it and killed it
so spraying the speaker it self with some water may clean out that sugar stuff?
the water doesent go further in the phone through the speaker enclosure?
orbit3r said:
well i actually bought it only a week ago so its under warranty but i dont think they will do anything except charge me for a new speaker after i say a drop of coke hit it and killed it
so spraying the speaker it self with some water may clean out that sugar stuff?
the water doesent go further in the phone through the speaker enclosure?
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Your phone will be water resistant to mild water exposure most of the time. But that isn't guaranteed and if water somehow gets into your phone it won't be covered under warranty. Unpressurized water shouldn't go through the speaker but if your phone is damaged or the case is loose, it could seep around the speaker. So be gentle with water. It's questionable whether water will remove the Coke residue and restore the speaker but worth a try if you are cautious.
If it doesn't work or you simply don't wish to try, then make a warranty claim. Samsung may fix it for free if you are lucky. Or they may charge you for the repair if they figure that bathing in Coke is negligent. But your warranty should remain intact even if you end up with a $75 repair because they decide that Coke repairs aren't covered.
Good luck
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Your phone is water resistant to occasional water exposure, not water proof.
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Samsung GALAXY S5 is IP67 Certified:
6: Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
7: Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
You can use it in a pool or on the beach without problems.
zorrigas said:
You can use it in a pool or on the beach without problems.
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This is very bad advice. The IEC Standard 60529 IP67 rating is for fresh water, not salt water that you may find at the beach. Nor does it rate any protection against chlorine found in most pools which is a known corrosive to most rubber seals. The rating also limited in depth and exposure time e.g. only to 1 meter, which is less than most pools and seashores.
Aside from all of those caveats, the rating simiply does not mean that your phone is waterproof in any way. It means that your phone, in perfect shape, is resistant to shallow immersion in fresh water for a limited time. Routinely subjecting a $600 phone to water is foolish. Over time most people drop phones, parts may wear or a owner may not completely seal the battery door which can quickly lead to catastrophic water damage.
Being water resistant is a big plus and will save a lot of us. But it is not an iron clad guarantee of anything anyone foolish enough to routinely tempt fate is likely to find that out the hard way. In particular there is no assurance that your phone will survive repeated exposure to salt water or chlorine in pools. Or if it falls down to the bottom of a pool that is more than a meter deep. And yes, there is a big difference between 1 meter and two, three or four meters.
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fffft said:
Your phone will be water resistant to mild water exposure most of the time. But that isn't guaranteed and if water somehow gets into your phone it won't be covered under warranty. Unpressurized water shouldn't go through the speaker but if your phone is damaged or the case is loose, it could seep around the speaker. So be gentle with water. It's questionable whether water will remove the Coke residue and restore the speaker but worth a try if you are cautious.
If it doesn't work or you simply don't wish to try, then make a warranty claim. Samsung may fix it for free if you are lucky. Or they may charge you for the repair if they figure that bathing in Coke is negligent. But your warranty should remain intact even if you end up with a $75 repair because they decide that Coke repairs aren't covered.
Good luck
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i gave it to a samsung store and they didnt even ask questions
got a call today to go pick it up tomorow i guess i was lucky
asked the guy if the phones fine and he said that if i didnt get call before from the tech dep. then its all good as new
i hope not to see a 100$ bill tomorow
I know there has been some discussion in this forum about just how waterproof the Z3 is exactly and how far you can push it, so I wanted to share my experience from the past week. On day two of a six day trip to St. John, USVI my GoPro developed a nice crack in its housing. Seeing as there is no Amazon Prime in St. John and certainly no Best Buy, the GoPro was effectively out-of-action. Wanting to still capture pictures of our trip I decided to put Sony's marketing to the test and it live up to it. I took it snorkeling on three different occasions, for upwards of an hour. The attached photos were taken at depths of 5-10 feet and I had the camera submerged at times for longer than hour in saltwater. The only hang-up was taking video. Since you can only use the hardware button to take pictures, I had to surface to start and stop any videos. Not a big deal, just a warning.
My only caveat is...make sure you rinse out your headphone jack. Though it is waterproof, I noticed what looked like some light corrosion after my first day (makes sense, salt water and all). From then on I made sure to rinse it down with some fresh water from a water bottle as soon as I got out of the water. No problems since.
Hope this gives everyone enough confidence to start taking their phone in the shower!
Let me know if you have any questions!
Very cool pics man, thabks for sharig your experience, im still scared to even wash my phone under the sink lol
that is amazing! you should share those pics with Sony Mobile, I'm sure they will publish it and give you some credit. Not sure how many people have done that yet!
Nice photos.
From what Sony says avoid salt water. Despite their advertising showing oceanic photos, here is their warning:
"...we wouldn't recommend using your smartphone, tablet or accessory during a sandstorm or in a hot shower. Never immerse your device in salt water or let the micro USB port, headset jack or other uncovered parts come into contact with salt water. If you're washing dishes by hand, avoid letting your device come into contact with the detergent or any other liquid chemicals."
"Should the phone be submerged in salt water it would need to be washed off in fresh water and if on warranty inspection it was evident that the seals had been damaged by salt/chlorine, warranty would be void."
This guy had it die on him in a pool:
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2014/10/15/4107561.htm
Nice pics! I'm definitely not scared to get mine wet anymore.
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Yeah, I was a little hesitant at first. Lots of quick dunks to see how it went but my confidence grew after the first few attempts went without issue. I had my Nexus 5 with me as a backup, so I figured...worst case scenario I had a backup phone.
I'm not surprised Sony doesn't recommend saltwater. Saltwater basically destroys everything it touches. Having said that, provided that you have all the ports sealed up, saltwater really shouldn't be getting in (besides the headphone jack). Makes me wonder if Sony has some water resistant coating applied to some of the internal components as a failsafe (would be effective against freshwater, but not saltwater).
Either way, I'm now 4 days after my last submersion and am experiencing no issues, so I am pretty pleased with this phone.
Very brave indeed, great pics.
Sony is a joke with it's water resistance comments, because... Hey here is our new waterproof (no it's not) (it's water resistant Sony) that you can't use in any water except a fresh water steam or lake.
Because lets face it, almost all pools contain chlorine, and almost all water around the home contains chlorine, leaving us...???
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cool stuff
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since we know for sure that your phone is waterproof, could you please do the following test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
There is a theory that the Z3 has a valve/membrane to adjust for changes in air pressure which makes the pressure go down in that test.
thanks
Finally, I can take my Z3 to sea. Thanks for those picture!
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danw_oz said:
Very brave indeed, great pics.
Sony is a joke with it's water resistance comments, because... Hey here is our new waterproof (no it's not) (it's water resistant Sony) that you can't use in any water except a fresh water steam or lake.
Because lets face it, almost all pools contain chlorine, and almost all water around the home contains chlorine, leaving us...???
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Just take some time and read about ip65 and ip68, sony says that you can take ur z3 to swimming pool which contains chlorine, but you have to clean it witch fresh water after this.
With salt water this is impossible, because, salt makes corride everything that it touches.
Greets, sorry for bad english
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This guy had it die on him in a pool:
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2014/10/15/4107561.htm
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To be fair, it was a saltwater pool.
Bäcker said:
since we know for sure that your phone is waterproof, could you please do the following test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
There is a theory that the Z3 has a valve/membrane to adjust for changes in air pressure which makes the pressure go down in that test.
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I actually had read that thread beforehand and downloaded the "Sensor Sense" app which has a barometric pressure reader on it. Sure enough, if I open the MicroUSB port and apply pressure I get no movement on the pressure reading. When closed, the pressure spikes and then tends to even out.
I also ran the app and dunked it under water while running. The reading accurately changed to reflect the water pressure.
In short, I think that test works
Been watching Top Gear in the shower since I got the phone. Scared the **** out of this waiter the other day it was hilarious. He was pouring water in my cup while holding some other plates and he tried to balance out and spilled just a little bit of water on my phone. I pretended to freak out for a second then was like dude... its waterproof all is forgiven. O and I need to set something straight. Water resistant = cant be fully submerged, so the Z3 would definitely be water proof. Honestly best use I have found for this phone so far being water proof is texting/using maps in the rain.
Krustnesis said:
Just take some time and read about ip65 and ip68, sony says that you can take ur z3 to swimming pool which contains chlorine, but you have to clean it witch fresh water after this.
With salt water this is impossible, because, salt makes corride everything that it touches.
Greets, sorry for bad english
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Try reading what I wrote with your bad English, what fresh water are you going to use? tap water also contains chlorine, maybe fresh water from your rain water tank? My comments are highlighting Sony's confusing and conflicting information.
And my pool contains salt and chlorine
So if u have THAT much chlorine in ur fresh water then please forgive me. FRESH WATER means WATER FROM THE TAP. Concentration of chlorine in tap water is infinitesimal.
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So if u have THAT much chlorine in ur fresh water then please forgive me. FRESH WATER means WATER FROM THE TAP. Concentration of chlorine in tap water is infinitesimal.
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My pool does not have much chlorine either, so it is all relative. Same for drinking water, they all have sanitiser in it, unless you have to filter it. And Sony have stated that if they see that salt or chlorine have eaten away at the seals then no warranty, what they haven't offered anyone is what is a safe level of chlorine in the water not to damage the seals.
Despite the deceptive oceanic adverts by Sony, I never really intended to splash this phone. I see water proofing as a plus against accidental spills etc.
I always use soap and water under the tap to clean my Z3 every few days when it gets dirty/fingerprints/etc.
Most people are too chicken with the phone that's actually officially rated waterproof. My year old Z1 been through lakes and pools and I didn't even bother wash it after chlorine water and it still looks like new. I do agree that you have to rinse after salt water.
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. The only hang-up was taking video. Since you can only use the hardware button to take pictures, I had to surface to start and stop any videos. Not a big deal, just a warning.
Let me know if you have any questions!
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To use the camera underwater you have to enable "Touch Screen Lock" in the camera settings. Then use the physical camera button to snap pictures and the volume rocker to shoot video.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...with-the-Sony-Xperia-Z3-or-Z3-Compact_id61505
Today, I was washing my Z3 Compact in the sink with soapy water. It was in contact with water for max. 20 seconds and the water got into the upper speaker.
Even stranger thing happened, the BOTTOM speaker stopped working for a while. (about 10 minutes) I tried to play some songs via the speakers and only one of them was working and the quality of the sound was extremely crappy.
After 10 minutes both speakers strarted working again, but it seems the sound is much quieter now... It maybe has something to do with a message which appeared to me earlier today as well, about some hearing damage, so maybe the phone has set up the audio quieter by itself.
If anybody knows how to set it louder again, please help! Thanks.
Anyway, this phone is not really waterproof
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
Fruktsallad said:
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
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I once was using the phone while having a bath, with no problems. But after I was washing the phone under running water this happened. Maybe soap is the problem(?)...
Soap reduces surface tension (that's what makes it *work*, for Pete's sake). This allows moisture to seep into places that water alone could not.
There is a very high probability that your use of soap caused this problem.
Showering with one is almost as bad, and for similar reasons.
Fruktsallad said:
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
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Soap reduces surface tension (that's what makes it *work*, for Pete's sake). This allows moisture to seep into places that water alone could not.
There is a very high probability that your use of soap caused this problem.
Showering with one is almost as bad, and for similar reasons.
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Well I was thinking that no fluid can get into the phone :angel:
I submerged my phone into water and later phoned somebody , the sound was also very muffled and the other person did not understand me very well. This was however due to residual water sitting in the mic/speaker, it dried out after a couple of hours and was fine again. Did not test the speakers at that time but i guess the sound issues that you describe could be very well this.
Just let it dry completely then try again.
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I submerged my phone into water and later phoned somebody , the sound was also very muffled and the other person did not understand me very well. This was however due to residual water sitting in the mic/speaker, it dried out after a couple of hours and was fine again. Did not test the speakers at that time but i guess the sound issues that you describe could be very well this.
Just let it dry completely then try again.
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I could clearly see the water got into one of the speakers (inside) and after 10 minutes it probably dried out with help of the heat from the phone.
Anyway, It's all good now, but it could kill the speakers. I changed the topic title...
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I could clearly see the water got into one of the speakers (inside) and after 10 minutes it probably dried out with help of the heat from the phone.
Anyway, It's all good now, but it could kill the speakers. I changed the topic title...
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Well dont get me wrong, i was not able to see any water with bare eye inside the hole, but since waiting and letting it dry removed the issue completely its the only explanation for the muffled sound. Anyway i would never use this phone in water again, since any drop or wear over the time can produce slight damage to the water seals integrity. The phone may be water proof (or not ) when it gets into your hands but that is no guarantee that its goind to stay that way.
In my opinion one should not use the phone underwater even if it is advertised. just be happy that it can take some rain, a spilled beer and if your lucky an accidental drop into pools etc... but i would avoid constantly putting this to the test.
Im pretty sure it says the phone is water resistant not waterproof..
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pricey2009 said:
Im pretty sure it says the phone is water resistant not waterproof..
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That's not really true.
Sony said:
Waterproof design that lets you do more
Xperia Z3 Compact is the smartphone designed to enhance your life. And life isn’t lived inside. With the highest waterproof rating*, Xperia Z3 Compact lets you answer calls in the rain or take pictures in the pool. And it can handle all the drops into the sink in between. Combined with a slim, compact design that’s easy to use with one hand, Xperia Z3 Compact is the Android smartphone that teams durability with beauty.
*In compliance with IP65 and IP68, the Xperia Z3 Compact is protected against the ingress of dust and is waterproof. Provided that all ports and covers are firmly closed, the phone is (i) dust tight and (ii) protected against low-pressure jets of water from all practicable directions in compliance with IP65; and/or (iii) can be kept under 1.5 m of fresh water for up to 30 minutes in compliance with IP68. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate warranty. For more information see www.sonymobile.com/durability
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Source: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z3-compact/
I believe Sony says don't expose the phone to detergent or other liquid chemicals (as well as salt water)
Here's the quote:
"...never expose the device to any liquid chemicals. For example, if you’re washing dishes by hand using liquid detergent, avoid bringing your device in contact with the detergent. After exposure to non-fresh water, rinse your device using fresh water."
Source:
http://support.sonymobile.com/globa...sing-your-device-in-wet-and-dusty-conditions/
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I washed by lg g6 with soapy water. Will it affect the phone?
Sorry, but for your own good, you should resist dunking your phone in things it's not designed to be dunked in, especially before recieving confirmation that it is safe.
Washing phones, even water resistant ones, with water containing other chemicals can cause internal corrosion, that may not affect the phone immediately.
I heard about a guy who gave his LG V30 one dunk in chlorine pool water to take an underwater photo and the display was eventually trashed. So... not a great idea. I wish you luck.
I didn't submerge the phone in the stuff though
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I didn't submerge the phone in the stuff though
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Still, consider that it was still washed in water with chemicals in it. If anything, the effects of corrosion may take longer. You should avoid doing this in the future.
No worries, you will be fine
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Still, consider that it was still washed in water with chemicals in it. If anything, the effects of corrosion may take longer. You should avoid doing this in the future.
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I forgot to mention, I did this about 2 weeks ago, but i didn't realize how this can corrode the phone until recently.
well i used my phone underwater 3 times on a pool., and 2 times at a river no probs at all
Afaik it's ok to use the phone underwater in sweet water (pools, rivers and lakes) for a few minutes but you should give it a wash/rinse with tap water to remove dirt and chems. Its ok to use minimal soap if the phone is too greasy but after that always rinse with clear water.
Using it in the salty sea or brine pools is a big no-no because salt is very corrosive. Maybe the first time will be ok, but it's possible it could die in the second or third time, so it's definitely advised to wash it with tap water if it ever touches salty water as soon as possible.
And by the love of everything that is sacred, DONT CHARGE YOUR PHONE AFTER BEING WET. I would even wait like an hour after the notification of "wet usb port" has gone. Blow the usb ports and headphone jack ports and use some microfibre cloth to speed up the drying, water loves to stick to nooks.
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Been 3 weeks since I used soap. I see no signs of water damage.
The only thing I use to clean my phone is the cleaner that comes with eye glasses from an optical store and a micro fiber cloth. I've been doing this for years (since at least the Nexus 4) and never had a problem.
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I washed by lg g6 with soapy water. Will it affect the phone?
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Even though I wouldn't personally recommend submerging or washing your phone daily, I've washed mine with soapy water multiple times, submerged it, hell, I've even ran benchmarks with the phone underwater.... It should be fine, its rated for 1 meter for 30 minutes of submersion.