Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
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S_ATTT said:
Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
thanks everyone :laugh:
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Franko kernel has good reviews
gedamsandeep said:
Franko kernel has good reviews
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do Franko have fast charge??
S_ATTT said:
do Franko have fast charge??
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I hv't use yet. But yes I hv seen it on YouTube that with Franko kernel mi A1 take 30 minutes less time to charge from 0 to 100% compare to official stock kernel.
gedamsandeep said:
I hv't use yet. But yes I hv seen it on YouTube that with Franko kernel mi A1 take 30 minutes less time to charge from 0 to 100% compare to official stock kernel.
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i think that is lie ?
Void kernel for stock
Moun kernel for custom/treble.
Wysłane z mojego Pixel XL przy użyciu Tapatalka
S_ATTT said:
Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
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The MiA1 wasn't designed for fast charge so the battery will probably fail sooner.
barrack1 said:
The MiA1 wasn't designed for fast charge so the battery will probably fail sooner.
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This is not true at all. There's no special "quick charge battery" installed in phones that support quick charge. The SD625 supports QC 3.0 (it's listed right on the official qualcomm website), Xiaomi just decided to exclude the functionality in their kernel. That being said, I would make sure the phone is placed in an open area to make sure heat is dissipated well while quick charging. I would also only use quick charging on an as need basis. Putting it on a quick charger at the end of the day, every single day, just to sit at 100% most of the night is kinda pointless. A slower charger would be a better choice for over night charging if you're really concerned about battery health. These same tips would also apply to phones with QC support OOB.
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This is not true at all. There's no special "quick charge battery" installed in phones that support quick charge. The SD625 supports QC 3.0 (it's listed right on the official qualcomm website), Xiaomi just decided to exclude the functionality in their kernel. That being said, I would make sure the phone is placed in an open area to make sure heat is dissipated well while quick charging. I would also only use quick charging on an as need basis. Putting it on a quick charger at the end of the day, every single day, just to sit at 100% most of the night is kinda pointless. A slower charger would be a better choice for over night charging if you're really concerned about battery health. These same tips would also apply to phones with QC support OOB.
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Wrong. Fast charging is not just a function of the SOC but requires a different battery chemistry and improved charging algorithms built into the battery and charger itself. Heat is not the only problem with fast charging as you are alluding. Hammering the battery with a 'forced' fast charge is a good recipe for killing the battery prematurely.
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Hey guys, i have a few questions regarding charging:
- I was wondering how fast the P10 plus charges with its included charger?
- Is it compatible with a quick charge 3.0 charger ?Have your tried using one? Would it charge just as fast?
- How about using a powerbank how long does it take to charge?
I just wanted to get an idea because the phone i have right now charges super slow (almost 3 hours) . It would be nice to have a fast charging capable phone, less than 2 hours would be even better! Thanks and cheers!
Full charge completed in about an hour.
I believe the phone is using the same SuperCharge technology as the Mate 9. Not sure if any power banks support it yet. But QuickCharge ought to work a bit faster, then regular charging? Don't quote me on that though.
Anyone an idea if you can disable the Quickcharge function? I reckon if not needed, it will be always better for your battery to charge it slowly.
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Anyone an idea if you can disable the Quickcharge function? I reckon if not needed, it will be always better for your battery to charge it slowly.
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Change the usb cable with normal one it will charge slowly
Think my post on this subject in the P10 forum may be of help/interest as it applies to the P10+ as well... Especially to clarify the non compatibilty with Qualcomm Quick chargers
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72386219&postcount=3
Incidentally, for the nerds amongst us (is that all of us? Lol!) the theoretical fastest time to charge the P10+ from flat would be 50 minutes on a Super charger (3750mAh battery with a 5V4.5A/4.5V5A charger).
I've seen rates of well over 1% per min on my P10 to start with, although this drops as the battery gets over 90%, but I'd be suprised if it would take more than 90 mins unless the phone was being used heavily at the same time.
Around an hour would be a very good time overall, probably a more average time would be around 75 mins
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Change the usb cable with normal one it will charge slowly
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Thanks, yes! I already noticed this 'solution'.
So far, I can't find a software solution to disable it.
Have anyone better and cheap charger what is supported now on oreo? i want to buy it...
Try AliExpress.com
I use a 10w iPad charger and it's great. Charges really fast
TerQQ said:
Have anyone better and cheap charger what is supported now on oreo? i want to buy it...
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whats wrong with the stock charger?
in oreo update is fast charging feature, then i am searching charger to use that.
Sir i wanted to know which charger should i use to get fast charging after oreo update??
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in oreo update is fast charging feature, then i am searching charger to use that.
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Yogesh9694 said:
Sir i wanted to know which charger should i use to get fast charging after oreo update??
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This has been discussed, it's not charging any faster than it did in Nougat. All they did was add the text to tell you it was fast charging, which to them means charging above 1A. True fast charging would be 50% in less than 30 minutes, definitely this update is not going to do that, no matter what charger you use.
But after oreo update there is a little improvement in charging speed... I charged my A1 in switched off and phones charged in 1hr 35 min from 0 to 100%...and i used the stock charger...
Yogesh9694 said:
But after oreo update there is a little improvement in charging speed... I charged my A1 in switched off and phones charged in 1hr 35 min from 0 to 100%...and i used the stock charger...
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Doing some very basic math.
3000mAh battery.
Charging rate of 2000mAh
That would equate, if the battery were truly at 0%, and charged truly to 100% full 3000mAh capacity, of 90 minutes, in an ideal world. Of course, there are some things that come into play, such as overhead.
With my USB measuring tool, I am able to see the voltage around 5.10-5.20v, and the amperage around 1.85-1.94A. This is with a Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 charger, so I know for certain that it is not doing a higher voltage charge. I can also see that it is not doing a higher amperage charge.
Given this, I will have to see about doing a complete drain on the phone, and then charging, and seeing where 100% is indicated on the phone, in terms of capacity, as my tool can measure the amount sent over USB as well.
Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
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The 'fast charging' message was a bug. Congrats. U just waste money
Sad to break it to you, but the phone doesn't support Quick Charge 3.0
Who except pajeet analphabete on Indian blog said it was supposed to get QC?
I've read that one of the Oreo beta builds had quick charging enabled by mistake and Xiaomi removed it later, this is when/where rumors started. No idea if that's true though..
There is a quite big difference between "fast charge" and "quick charge" (by qualcomm). Quick Charge will not be enabled on those phones as qualcomm wants money for each device that uses it. However in oreo we have "fast charge" enabled.... also to have quick charge you'll need charger that has the qualcomm chip in it... and for the fast charge again you'll need charger that supports fast charge(basically that it is more powerful - 34W and up).
And remember it is android one device so it is as close to the aosp as possible and many of the settings are up to google to change (like the cam api 2)
I don't get the fuss around this "fast" charge "enabled" thingy. I'm using a nexus 5x charger since day 0 (back when only displayed "charging") because i've bought it as a replacement for my nexus 5x.
So, the output of the 5x charger has 3A . Now pay attention, the A1 (at least mine and i don't think i got a special edition) was charging with 2A out of the box (nougat) and also after oreo update, period.
Mi a1 does have sd625 which supports fast charging but xiaomi hasnt enabled it cause enabling that will make xiaomi pay some loyalty to snapdragon. So they didn't enable it. NO FAST CHARGING ON MI A1
This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
justanpotato said:
With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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nope.
pendragon666 said:
This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
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Redmi note 5 has the icon of fast charging with micro usb, but Mi A1 with usb C does not, lol. My phone Mi A1 charges fully within 1 hour from 1%(would say... 40min) with an aukey QC 3.0 and a blitzwolf amp usb cable.
bastienff said:
Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
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Don't worry about people bragging ie lying about how their phones charge up faster with quick charge. Or some sort of forced charging is going on which isn't good for the lifespan of the battery. Samsung allows users to turn off fast charging in the settings to reduce excessive heat which says something about fast charging.
So you guys are saying it doesn't support Quick Charge™. But I just downloaded CPU-Z for fun and it read the fact that the MI A1 - My unit at least runs Snapdragon 626 as opposed to what GSMArena says (625) and according to this article it is supposed to support it. I don't have a fast enough charger - Never thought I'd need one since the phone supposedly doesn't support fast charging, but if it runs 626 it might. If I can edit this post I'll add a screenshot from the phone in a moment.
Can't seem to add the screen shot, so here's the link to it:
https://imgur.com/a/PhgdBME
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With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
The phone has the available hardware for fast charging but xiaomi disabled it, it should be coming soon in oreo or pie
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
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I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
WhatzIt2Ya said:
I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
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depends on your charger. :good:
Dang, I JUST BOUGHT 5. QC3 chargers!!!
... I just read on some other forms that the mean one supports fast charging qc3 charger I bought a bunch of chargers. does anyone know will queue c3 chargers work on all types of phones and devices even if they don't have any Qualcomm chip in them will they still charge at your 1 amp or 2 amp speed?? and that's question does anybody know what happened to the license agreement between called come and show me about working out the deal to get the Alt-X low-latency and the Ap-X codec license agreement???
So, I've been a Nexus 6 owner for 2 years now (and I'm sadly planning to move on to Mi A1, due to lack of Treble Support on my Shamu and "if Android is available for it sooner enough")
But recently my charger got bad so I needed to buy a new one. I took a Samsung "fast charger" (9.0V= 1.67A or 5.0V≈2.0A) and seriously, wow!. The charging speed has bumped up a lot!
From 600mA, 4hrs of charging to 2100mA, 1h30mins of charging !
I dunno if it's because of my system (Nitrogen Os 8.1.0 + EX kernel) or what... but really, I'm pleased. Tho my usage is generally around 3hrs because I HEAVILY use it..(Browsing, tethering and playing some SUPERCELL games), I never worry because I know that within 10mins I'll gains approximately 08% of battery which is huge for me where I love.
Am I the only one with this happy discovery? Is there any charger faster than this one?
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So, I've been a Nexus 6 owner for 2 years now (and I'm sadly planning to move on to Mi A1, due to lack of Treble Support on my Shamu and "if Android is available for it sooner enough")
But recently my charger got bad so I needed to buy a new one. I took a Samsung "fast charger" (9.0V= 1.67A or 5.0V≈2.0A) and seriously, wow!. The charging speed has bumped up a lot!
From 600mA, 4hrs of charging to 2100mA, 1h30mins of charging !
I dunno if it's because of my system (Nitrogen Os 8.1.0 + EX kernel) or what... but really, I'm pleased. Tho my usage is generally around 3hrs because I HEAVILY use it..(Browsing, tethering and playing some SUPERCELL games), I never worry because I know that within 10mins I'll gains approximately 08% of battery which is huge for me where I love.
Am I the only one with this happy discovery? Is there any charger faster than this one?
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use the official turbo charger for nexus6
MiroALG said:
use the official turbo charger for nexus6
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1- isn't it the one include out of box? If so, then it's slow for me.
2- nah...this one is nice so far?
Topaz8 said:
1- isn't it the one include out of box? If so, then it's slow for me.
2- nah...this one is nice so far?
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I'm getting 2500mAh with Aukey quick charge 2.0
Stevica Smederevac said:
I'm getting 2500mAh with Aukey quick charge 2.0
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I won't if it can receive up to 3000mAh
Topaz8 said:
So, I've been a Nexus 6 owner for 2 years now (and I'm sadly planning to move on to Mi A1, due to lack of Treble Support on my Shamu and "if Android is available for it sooner enough")
But recently my charger got bad so I needed to buy a new one. I took a Samsung "fast charger" (9.0V= 1.67A or 5.0V≈2.0A) and seriously, wow!. The charging speed has bumped up a lot!
From 600mA, 4hrs of charging to 2100mA, 1h30mins of charging !
I dunno if it's because of my system (Nitrogen Os 8.1.0 + EX kernel) or what... but really, I'm pleased. Tho my usage is generally around 3hrs because I HEAVILY use it..(Browsing, tethering and playing some SUPERCELL games), I never worry because I know that within 10mins I'll gains approximately 08% of battery which is huge for me where I love.
Am I the only one with this happy discovery? Is there any charger faster than this one?
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Simply, our nexus 6 supports the standard QUICK CHARGE 1.0, as it has the snapdragon 805 as processor.
Nowadays, we arrived at the snapdragon 845 and the Quick Charge 3.0 that's like 50-60% faster than the 1.0 we have. The charger you utilised is compatible with 1.0.
When you buy a charger, look if it is compatible with quick charge (a 3.0 quick charge is compatible with 2.0 and 1.0) and you're good to go.
Obviously your phone must support the quick charge standard.
nexus 6 is quick charge 2.0
Anyone facing heating issue while charging with stock charger? Is it only me or anyone else facing the same ?
Temperature goes upto 45°c ..is it normal ?
hk96 said:
Anyone facing heating issue while charging with stock charger? Is it only me or anyone else facing the same ?
Temperature goes upto 45°c ..is it normal ?
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i'm using the default charger (out of box, 5V 2A) on RN7 (chinese rom), battery doesnt heat up as the app (AccuBattery) saying temperature upto 36 or 37 C, once i seen shooted at 39 C (max)
but in any case phone was slightly heated on top from behind (adjacent to back camera), i think it may be due to processor but the battery temperature was fine
shahm64m said:
i'm using the default charger (out of box, 5V 2A) on RN7 (chinese rom), battery doesnt heat up as the app (AccuBattery) saying temperature upto 36 or 37 C, once i seen shooted at 39 C (max)
but in any case phone was slightly heated on top from behind (adjacent to back camera), i think it may be due to processor but the battery temperature was fine
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Battery temp depends on ambient temp too. It's about 36°c ambient here. So may be that's the reason for heating.
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Battery temp depends on ambient temp too. It's about 36°c ambient here. So may be that's the reason for heating.
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i think it is not normal if ambient is 36 and on charging battery temp goes upto 45, you can also check different phones with different chargers
or you can try charging your phone via laptop/PC, it will slow charge the device but you will see the temperature rise of battery be negligible
keep in mind that charger as well as charging cable both may contribute in heating up of phone
by the way which charger are you using?
just for information (not related to thread) you can visit the website regarding temperature and battery life
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
shahm64m said:
i think it is not normal if ambient is 36 and on charging battery temp goes upto 45, you can also check different phones with different chargers
or you can try charging your phone via laptop/PC, it will slow charge the device but you will see the temperature rise of battery be negligible
keep in mind that charger as well as charging cable both may contribute in heating up of phone
by the way which charger are you using?
just for information (not related to thread) you can visit the website regarding temperature and battery life
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Thanks for Ur reply.
Yeah, for high ambient it's ok to have high temp. I thought the same.
I am using charger that came with the box.
Saw many people complaining about the same. So thought of creating this thread.
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Thanks for Ur reply.
Yeah, for high ambient it's ok to have high temp. I thought the same.
I am using charger that came with the box.
Saw many people complaining about the same. So thought of creating this thread.
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keep in mind that im using chinese rom (comes with the mobile), lucky me my mobile dont get heat up, same is the case with my friend we purchased the same RN7 chinese and both got lucky because mobile isnt heating while charging, although im thinking to purchase QC4 charger but don't know will it improves battery life (cycle) or degrade it at the cost of fast cahrging
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keep in mind that im using chinese rom (comes with the mobile), lucky me my mobile dont get heat up, same is the case with my friend we purchased the same RN7 chinese and both got lucky because mobile isnt heating while charging, although im thinking to purchase QC4 charger but don't know will it improves battery life (cycle) or degrade it at the cost of fast cahrging
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A custom kernel could be a solution for heating, or just charge at lower amps.
Reg. Qc4 make sure u charge in an AC room ?lol
hk96 said:
A custom kernel could be a solution for heating, or just charge at lower amps.
Reg. Qc4 make sure u charge in an AC room lol
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I dont think QC 4 require AC room, as my friend owns vivo v15pro with fast charging (5V, 4A). no heating issues, im concerned because RN7 is a budget phone and normally budget phones dont offer QC3 or QC4/+
shahm64m said:
I dont think QC 4 require AC room, as my friend owns vivo v15pro with fast charging (5V, 4A). no heating issues, im concerned because RN7 is a budget phone and normally budget phones dont offer QC3 or QC4/+
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Redmi note 7 is QC 4 certified by qualcomm.
See image attached.
thanks for the reply, i am still confuse because of the budget phone, i will try QC4 charger sometime later, let see what happens