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41 C (106 F) yesterday when I was waiting for my sisters doctor appointment to finish. Was playing Baseball Superstars for over an hour. lol
Usually its not too bad but that was getting rather hot.
Is there a level that's beyond safe for the phone?
46C or 114.8F
134* just now. Streaming pandora outdoors
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134* just now. Streaming pandora outdoors
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Ditto here, my phone gets the hottest streaming pandora!!
112F here on my old atrix when 42 degrees outside
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Right now, the temperature is 32C on the battery. The CPU gets far hotter. When using RockPlayer to play some AVIs, the temperature jumped to the low 50s C. It was not a pleasant experience.
43c when playing games while plugged in.
yeah my CPU gets waaaay hotter than my battery
my CPU hit about 50C watching NBA highlight videos over wifi (battery was around 36C)
i'm running gingerblur on 1.57 if that matters
personally i think the phone gets EXTREMELY hot..
i havent had any reboots because of it, but im pretty sure my browser crashed after playing videos for about 20 minutes straight...cause it just exited to the homescreen out of nowhere
i wonder if this can be addressed somehow in a future update..i dont want to underclock my CPU cause i'd be surpressing the power of this phone if i did
Seems pretty common,i was scary at beginning but seems normal I get like 41° playing music over bt and browsing in normal its 27 I use set cpu to slow down when its higher than 45° c I never noticed I have random reboots I noticed when I check time since unplug weird
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how r you measuring temps? is there an app?
im not kidding, i swear, i really am doing my first post now to let EVERYONE know i just had my cpu go to 186 degrees!! i immediately took off the batt cover and it was HOT in my hands, i just installed homebase so i raced to accept the markets terms and conditions and downloaded set pcu and set it for 247 and triple zip locked bagged the phone and went to throw it in the ice box, LUCKILY i left the ice box out about 1 hour before so there was a bit of a pool of ice water for it to sit in, it is still in the water (for about 10 min now) let me walk over to it now, whew, its 73 degrees now, omgoodness, im afraid of the future now!
battery max. 44° C
but CPU (when watching movie online(in flash)) hits up to 70°C
winner?
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im not kidding, i swear, i really am doing my first post now to let EVERYONE know i just had my cpu go to 186 degrees!! i immediately took off the batt cover and it was HOT in my hands, i just installed homebase so i raced to accept the markets terms and conditions and downloaded set pcu and set it for 247 and triple zip locked bagged the phone and went to throw it in the ice box, LUCKILY i left the ice box out about 1 hour before so there was a bit of a pool of ice water for it to sit in, it is still in the water (for about 10 min now) let me walk over to it now, whew, its 73 degrees now, omgoodness, im afraid of the future now!
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I'm going to be very crude here. Two explanations for your 'problem'
1. Your seeking attention (troll). Evidence: 1st post on xda (Welcome btw) and poor grammar etc.
2. Your bending the truth (Liar). Evidence: My phone has reached high temperature before (not even 100 degrees) the phone will enter 'Emergency Cool Down' and you will be unable to use it. Also the temperature which the battery circuit will cut off power is way below 186 degrees. The temperature which the Tegra 2 core will send the THERMTRIP signal (or equivalent (im an intel guy)) is also way below 186 degrees. Finally, at those temperature, your skin would have been burnt.
Yes I know, don't feed the trolls, but i could not help it.
I don't think I've seen mine hit higher than around 40C. It usually hovers around the low- to mid-30C's range. Then again, I don't play many games, but I do use a bunch of different apps for video, music, and social media. Hopefully I never have problems with the temperature, though.
41 was the most I've had
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ive been a member since july after always looking on here since ive bought the phone early march figuring i would need to post but in reality if i look hard enough there is never really anything to say that hasnt been said. so i dont post. Thanks for the grammar comment, i appreciate it. and i dont care about attention, my phone said it was 187, and it FELT HOT as all hell, and when i put it in the ice bucket it went all the way down to 63 as did my batt (my batt was only up to 111, normal in my opinion) so i think my sensor might be working ok, i should have checked in in set cpu and not that temp app that came with homebase, i was freaking out because if i would have done my phone in for good i can never return it because i tore it down to replace a cracked digitizer and my GF threw away my sticker that went behind the batt with my numbers on it, something att would never take back so i was in panic mode. I went online and a did a search for highest atrix temps and this is all i found, ill crawl away now and not share anything fantastic any more, but thanks for even considering the option that something might have a glitch in all the custom stuff we have now and that maybe the phone is able to handle more then we think, at least i will always know.
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i also have been looking around now, and there have been mac books that have reached that temp, and lived to tell and i also was thinking that it was reading 186/7 at the core, not on the outside, so im not sure why the phone would burn me. A little extra info was that when i dropped the cpu i cactually dropped it to 456000 im not sure what to say but i felt it was big enough that i would share.
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ive been a member since july after always looking on here since ive bought the phone early march figuring i would need to post but in reality if i look hard enough there is never really anything to say that hasnt been said. so i dont post. Thanks for the grammar comment, i appreciate it. and i dont care about attention, my phone said it was 187, and it FELT HOT as all hell, and when i put it in the ice bucket it went all the way down to 63 as did my batt (my batt was only up to 111, normal in my opinion) so i think my sensor might be working ok, i should have checked in in set cpu and not that temp app ... SHORTENED
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Sorry for being so rude, really apologise for that.
You said you fixed the screen by yourself, I would really check that to see if anything have went wrong.
Also you state the sensor stated it was that high. At such high temperature, Android will stop functioning and the CPU would also shut off. As such, I do think your sensor is malfunctioning. I wouldn't use that phone if I were you, if Motorola doesn't want to fix it, get some other 3rd party to do so. It's worth the peace of mind.
my battery got up to 47 degrees while i was watching netflix through the webtop connected to a TV the other night. when i picked up the phone to disconnect it, it was pretty hot and it destroyed my battery. it went from 65% to 15% after just an hour. i didnt check what the computer temperature got to though.
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my battery got up to 47 degrees while i was watching netflix through the webtop connected to a TV the other night. when i picked up the phone to disconnect it, it was pretty hot and it destroyed my battery. it went from 65% to 15% after just an hour. i didnt check what the computer temperature got to though.
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Just last night I watched a movie via Youtube through webtop to the TV (which I downloaded from the market but was unable to play normally due to "rooted' device)..and same thing..went from 45% to 4% in a little over an hour. Phone was about 46 degrees at that point.
well, i came back to the homebase rom again now that it has nightlies and as soon as i cwm'd the rom i everheated again, i reached 192 deg core temp, i want some feedback if you guys have it, and i will try to answer ?'s as you have them. i want to shed a little light on how warm this is, so i but some butter on my saran wrapped phone and well, take a look......on the youtube , the link after the youtube website is /watch?v=dpkZL3D76O4
I have been enjoying the S Health Walking Mate since release. Since receiving the latest update from AT&T the step counts seem a little off from the release firmware. I'm not 100% positive of this. I don't have an actual pedometer to validate the phone's displayed data.
My question to those of you who have used the pedometer prior to the update and after the update, have you noticed any significant differences in the step count? Bonus points if you have validated the phone data with a dedicated pedometer.
All in all I really like the app. If you haven't checked it out, it is pretty kick ass. It can somehow differentiate between walking, running, and if you are walking up an incline. I'm looking forward to when blood glucose monitoring will be available. Maybe it will get me to check it more often =)
I had been actively using the S Health prior to update, and confirmed a number of times it was buggy - the step counter would reset back a few steps. For example I have 1200 steps, and I stat walking to my office, I look at the screen and it is showing 1200+ and increasing. I arive to the office, put the phone down, then remember to check count a few minutes later, pick it up and it shows 1200 steps again.
It almost looked like that once the phone was stationary, Android would unload the app before it saved latest total, and the app would lose some steps.
Ever after the update they have fixed the issue, and the counter works spot-on, not losing any legs of my day's worth walking.
I did not validate the precision , but it seems to be about the same as my dedicated pedometer I used to use before.
the first version of walking mate was at least realistic. after the update. i was walking on my treadmill for 2km while walking mate reaches already 4km. my pace was 12-13 steps per 10 meters (based on treadmill) and for 2 km it should be atleast 2400-2600 steps, but after the update of s health, my walking mate it reaches 5000 steps with 4.2km
Samsung please bring back the old version of the s health. or make another update and set it to 12-13 steps per 10 meters or 1200-1300 steps per 1 km.
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the first version of walking mate was at least realistic. after the update. i was walking on my treadmill for 2km while walking mate reaches already 4km. my pace was 12-13 steps per 10 meters (based on treadmill) and for 2 km it should be atleast 2400-2600 steps, but after the update of s health, my walking mate it reaches 5000 steps with 4.2km
Samsung please bring back the old version of the s health. or make another update and set it to 12-13 steps per 10 meters or 1200-1300 steps per 1 km.
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Mine also has become very unrealistic since the last big update. I jog 3 miles and it records 5. It used to be really accurate.
So i feel like my Snapdragon S7 is getting hot when browsing web
And definitely when using the camera app.
Bought a laser temoerature gun and get between 33-42C after browsing the web
The latter was achieved during 1080p 60fps video recording for 5 min.
Is this normal or should i return it as tommorow is my last day?
Please comment what your temps are like during these apps.
Thanks!
My phone was getting quite warm when browsing and was draining battery. I kept disabling packages until this was fixed. Try this. Or if you are okay with full factory reset, try it and don't install any additional apps - just test the same thing first.
It shouldn't get hot while doing basic things. My phone only gets warm to the touch when I'm on VR and even then I don't consider it "hot". Disabling things or shut down all apps you have is not a fix either..it's just a workaround.. I would return it if I where you
My 935FD phone will get up to 96F (35C) while browsing or really doing anything with the screen on for more than 10 mins. It gets noticeably warm to the touch. I've already done a factory reset and disabled a few packages, but I'm not sure if this is just normal operation or not? Does everyone's phone get warm under normal use? What temps are you seeing after being in Facebook or just browsing for 10 mins straight? Trying to determine if mine might be defective as well.
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My 935FD phone will get up to 96F (35C) while browsing or really doing anything with the screen on for more than 10 mins. It gets noticeably warm to the touch. I've already done a factory reset and disabled a few packages, but I'm not sure if this is just normal operation or not? Does everyone's phone get warm under normal use? What temps are you seeing after being in Facebook or just browsing for 10 mins straight? Trying to determine if mine might be defective as well.
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I think I'm going to return mine today and get a new gs7
When I browse the Web the phone gets warm to the touch and it's annoying.
I get between 82-89F degrees just browsing the Web and if I try to use my camera
It gets to 97F like in 2 minutes.
My phone gets warm as well ehen browsing with Chrome, using the camera or facebook app. My phone is with the exynos chipset. I'm too concerned that might be an issue. I have already tried resetting the phone but it still gets warm ans sometimes even hot to the touch.
Johno_Jan said:
I think I'm going to return mine today and get a new gs7
When I browse the Web the phone gets warm to the touch and it's annoying.
I get between 82-89F degrees just browsing the Web and if I try to use my camera
It gets to 97F like in 2 minutes.
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According to , my phone does got up to 36 C / 97 F while browsing the internet this morning. I let it cool down to 27 C / 80 F and took a 2 minute 1080p60 video and it went up to 32 C / 89 F.
Can anyone with a temperature gun measure theirs and see how it compares to the system temperature (e.g. BMW or GSAM) ?
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It shouldn't get hot while doing basic things. My phone only gets warm to the touch when I'm on VR and even then I don't consider it "hot". Disabling things or shut down all apps you have is not a fix either..it's just a workaround.. I would return it if I where you
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What temp does your system report (BMW or GSAM if you need an app to measure it)?
Mine is almost every second at 26-29º celsius, and trust me, I make weird things with the phone! Like flashing things (so my screen is on almost 80% of daylight LOL).
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According to , my phone does got up to 36 C / 97 F while browsing the internet this morning. I let it cool down to 27 C / 80 F and took a 2 minute 1080p60 video and it went up to 32 C / 89 F.
Can anyone with a temperature gun measure theirs and see how it compares to the system temperature (e.g. BMW or GSAM) ?
What temp does your system report (BMW or GSAM if you need an app to measure it)?
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2 degree C difrance while browsing and playing a movie. Use Sammy browser and Netflix
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According to , my phone does got up to 36 C / 97 F while browsing the internet this morning. I let it cool down to 27 C / 80 F and took a 2 minute 1080p60 video and it went up to 32 C / 89 F.
Can anyone with a temperature gun measure theirs and see how it compares to the system temperature (e.g. BMW or GSAM) ?
What temp does your system report (BMW or GSAM if you need an app to measure it)?
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30min browsing and 5min YouTube anf 3min 60fps1080p recording on auto brightness.
Johno_Jan said:
So i feel like my Snapdragon S7 is getting hot when browsing web
And definitely when using the camera app.
Bought a laser temoerature gun and get between 33-42C after browsing the web
The latter was achieved during 1080p 60fps video recording for 5 min.
Is this normal or should i return it as tommorow is my last day?
Please comment what your temps are like during these apps.
Thanks!
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My phone runs about 36c never seen above 40
Hi
So I bought my GS7E a week ago .. I started to notice that it heats so much when I use it
I just don't know if this is the normal heat for it or not so I wanted to know from your experience
so at normal base when I'm not using it it stays at 34-35C
When I use it for whatsapp, facebook an normal light use it goes up to 37C
when I charge it it goes up to 40C
and sometimes when it's in the car on in my pocket and nothing is running in the background it can go to 40C too
that makes it annoying to receive calls or to hold it and put it next on my ear
should I just keep it is it normal ? or is there a rom I could download? what should I do?
Hello to every one. Bought gs7 just two days ago.
I noticed mine gets warm after about 5_10 minutes of browsing the web. Right now its about 1 hour and its temp is 34`c. If i dont use it it goes down to 32 after some minutes.
After 20 minutes of playing gta vice city it reached 35 and afer 5 minutes of 4k recording it reached 37.
I wanted to know should i consider it normal?
Many forums state that 40 degrees battery temperature is not unsusual . However, 3-4 beers is also not unusual, but it does do damage to the brain.
On batteryuniversity.com I found an article:
"Lithium-ion suffers from stress when exposed to heat, so does keeping a cell at a high charge voltage. A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature and for most Li-ion a voltage above 4.10V/cell is deemed as high voltage. Exposing the battery to high temperature and dwelling in a full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more stressful than cycling. Table 3 demonstrates capacity loss as a function of temperature and SoC."
I think this is frightful.
My S7 runs at an average of 32 degrees. (23 degrees ambient)
After half an hour of Gear VR it runs up to 43 degrees.
This means that on average this S7 runs above 30 degrees!
Should I ask a replacement or is my logic totally flawed?
Hi,
Mine, with factory reset and nothing running on background (S Health and all stock google and microsoft apps disabled), is not going below the 34 degrees without doing anything..very annoying touching the back and feel it warm.. I think I will ask for a replacement or at least a check in a experience store here in London..
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So i feel like my Snapdragon S7 is getting hot when browsing web
And definitely when using the camera app.
Bought a laser temoerature gun and get between 33-42C after browsing the web
The latter was achieved during 1080p 60fps video recording for 5 min.
Is this normal or should i return it as tommorow is my last day?
Please comment what your temps are like during these apps.
Thanks!
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Mine has gone up to 40 Celsius I have the exynos version that what the phone info app say
i notice mine would run that temp on with 4g on. so i was looking through my phone and fount google sync was turned on and i turned it off. That fixed the heat problem.
Hey guys, i have the Chinese variant of the s7 and mine also runs warm just browsing chrome, though I have to use a vpn as well. I'm past the point of getting a return, but they say I can take it in to get it checked. Have you guys had your s7 tested and is there anything they can do if there's anything wrong with the phone? I'm very frustrated over this, as I thought there would be improvements over the s5. Mine operates around 35c according to cool master and it's frustrating having a hot phone. I'm thinking of getting the supcase so I perhaps won't feel the heat so much. Any thoughts or suggestions? Is it normal for the snapdragon s7s to run a tad warm? And, you guys use a case that prevents you from feeling the heat? It's hard to use this phone naked, as the whole thing is metal and glass, so it's hot in your hand.
Hello, I just bought an S8 as an upgrade from my beloved S6E+. when I firt turned it on the phone was on 55% I started using smart switch to transfer stuff from my old cellphone over WIFI (over 10gb of stuff) while the phone was updating from the playstore and downloading a software update and updating galaxy apps (too many stuff) I felt the phone getting really warm then it became HOT not uncomfortably but very very noticeable.,I downloaded an app to see the temp. and it reported 59 C for the CPU and 42 for the Battery. then it jumped to 69C for the CPU and 47 for the processor. I waited till everything finished, updated the sofware and reststed. it idled at 42 - 45 C.
I live in a hot country and the outside temprature was 38 C. but my S6E+ never reached such temperatures, and I don't want to bring any drama but the whole Note7 thing is making me paranoid about using the phone while its hot like that. so is this normal??
1. The fact that you're living in a hot country matters. Its a factor. Coz apparently ambient temperatures affects the feel of materials such as glass or Aluminium. So take note of that.
2. You've said it yourself,you made the phone go through a hell doing stuff all at once. Let it settle. Give it days,maybe weeks.
3. If after all that you're still experiencing the overheating,then it could be;
a)Just a software hitch which could be fixed by a simple factory reset or software update.
b) If someone else report the same issue,then it could be a common issue with the phone
c) If no one reports similar issue and yours persist,then you probably have a defective unit,and you should consider replacing it.
I recently pulled the trigger on the MPHS25.200-23 official Android N software update for the Moto X Pure Edition. Aside from the concerns I listed among the release notes in the rollout discussion thread, I have been reasonably satisfied with the update. However, battery life absolutely plummeted after installing it. A hard reset was executed before (and after) the update and a cache/dalvik/art wipe was completed a couple days after getting everything set up.
Battery percentage drops at record speeds while the screen is on (although standby time is still okay). Using a Nexus 6 for reference, I compared results using Ampere and didn't notice any significant difference in power use (at least while idling with the screen on). Using the CPU usage monitor tool found under the debugging panel, nothing seems out of the ordinary here either (idling and light use shows a figure in the 9s, typically).
At this point, I figured misbehaving software could be ruled out, so I turned my attention to the battery. On my laptops, I can use either the OEM's power manager application or a Windows commandline tool (in Windows 8 and newer) to generate a battery health report, showing the "design capacity" and the actual "full charge capacity" in mah, which is a very good indicator of a battery's health. I struggled to find an equivalent to this on Android, but, after some digging, did find some promising leads
The trouble is that the results aren't consistent. On the Nexus 6, running "dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"" shows a "Capacity" of 3220, which just happens to match the design capacity of the Nexus 6's internal battery. Running "dumpsys batteryproperties" shows "2910000" at the bottom next to "Full charge." Since the Nexus 6 is close to 3 years old now, it would make sense that the battery is only good for 2900 mah. Everything makes sense so far...
On the Moto X Pure Edition, however, "dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"" yields a puzzling "Capacity: 1948." "dumpsys batteryproperties" yields "Full charge: 1948000". This makes no sense. If "Full charge" represents the design capacity, (not taking usage into account) why would it show as only 1948 on the Moto X?
Now, I'm opening this up to the community. What do you see when you run the first command?
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dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"
Do you see the expected design capacity of 3000 or do you also get a small (or smaller) number like I did?
Either way, I'd like to see people's results for the second command as well:
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dumpsys batteryproperties
How close is the resulting "Full charge" value to the rated 3000?
The battery never was a 3000mah. That was a lie.
Have you done a factory reset since the update?
I get:
estimated battery capacity : 2996 mAh
and :
ac: 0 usb: 1 wireless: 0 current_max: 0 voltage_max: 0
status: 2 health: 2 present: 1
level: 96 voltage: 4411 temp: 267
current now: -182951
charge counter: 2905046
current now: -185
cycle count: 2
Full charge: 2730600
although my battery misbehaves big time ! from full charge to 80 in less than 10 minutes.
Thank you for the input
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The battery never was a 3000mah. That was a lie.
Have you done a factory reset since the update?
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I figured as much, but not a value nearly half that! Definitely performed a hard reset, both before and after the update.
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I get:
estimated battery capacity : 2996 mAh
and :
ac: 0 usb: 1 wireless: 0 current_max: 0 voltage_max: 0
status: 2 health: 2 present: 1
level: 96 voltage: 4411 temp: 267
current now: -182951
charge counter: 2905046
current now: -185
cycle count: 2
Full charge: 2730600
although my battery misbehaves big time ! from full charge to 80 in less than 10 minutes.
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Interesting. This is more in line with what I was expecting to see on my own system, although it's surprising to hear that your phone still misbehaves as it does.
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Interesting.
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Bought February this year:
Going to try battery replacement
At this point, I'm going to chalk the issues up to a failing battery and simply consider this a coincidence. Does anybody who has done a battery replacement recently recommend any good brands or vendors who sell a decent battery that I won't have to bend to make fit? One eBay seller who I have contacted says that he normally sells the flat ones, but will provide a curved battery in its place if the customer specifically asks for it at checkout.
It may not be a bad battery, as I had the same issues and I recently replaced my battery with a battery the seller swears is brand new, and again it is behaving exactly like the old battery.
So I am at a loss as to what to try. How do you fool the system into thinking the battery is brand new?
I just decided to check the dumpsys batterystats and it shows absolutely nothing
dumpsys does not give me any information at all, is this a permission problem?
The plot thickens...
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It may not be a bad battery, as I had the same issues and I recently replaced my battery with a battery the seller swears is brand new, and again it is behaving exactly like the old battery.
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Interesting. What time of runtime (screen-on time) are you seeing? Do you remember what seller/store you got the replacement from? Was the replacement flat or curved, like the original battery?
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I just decided to check the dumpsys batterystats and it shows absolutely nothing
dumpsys does not give me any information at all, is this a permission problem?
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Don't try "dumpsys batterystats" without the "grep "Capacity"," else you'll get so much output that the device might freeze and then reboot.
The fact that you're getting no output with either command seems unusual though. I don't know if it'd make a difference for sure, but, out of curiosity, do you have busybox installed?
Yes I have busybox installed, let me go check version.
busybox 1.27.2
I thought maybe it was because I was plugged in but I installed a terminal app get root and check it internally without it being plugged in and nothing, there is absolutely no data.
So I am at a loss as how to fix this. Something is either hijacked the system and is hiding the data or there is no data and the processes that create it have not run correctly, which then means I will have to hunt down exactly what processes create the info.
Any help would be appreciated as I've been doing stuff like this without help for decades and it gets very time consuming to track down bugs for developers that are too busy driving around in their humvee's and flying to Europe to care.
Strange output; are you running the stock rom?
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Yes I have busybox installed, let me go check version.
busybox 1.27.2
I thought maybe it was because I was plugged in but I installed a terminal app get root and check it internally without it being plugged in and nothing, there is absolutely no data.
So I am at a loss as how to fix this. Something is either hijacked the system and is hiding the data or there is no data and the processes that create it have not run correctly, which then means I will have to hunt down exactly what processes create the info.
Any help would be appreciated as I've been doing stuff like this without help for decades and it gets very time consuming to track down bugs for developers that are too busy driving around in their humvee's and flying to Europe to care.
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That's really weird that the command takes, but displays no output. My Samsung Epic (with a CyanogenMod build of Ice Cream Sandwich) simply scolds me when trying to put the commands in. The only time when I can achieve no output (on the Pure Edition or Nexus 6) is if I forget to go root before typing the commands. Are you on the stock rom?
No good, it seems
Well, I received the replacement battery today and installed it. To my surprise, however, there was almost no measurable change in runtime; I charged it up and burned down half a tank with only about 45 minutes of screen-on use! I ran those commands again, and this time, both values indicate a touch over 3000. I'll give it a few cycles to see if things return to normal, but if not, then I'm at a loss. Are there any negative consequences to "downgrading" to Marshmallow?
Unusually high power draw spotted, as reported by Ampere
Quick addendum: I tested again using a program called Ampere, and found that current draw is actually a bit on the high side. Comparing alongside the (nearly identically-configured) Nexus 6, using multi-window, I found that current draw is actually often doubled, and sometimes even tripled.
For example, when playing an HD YouTube video, the Nexus 6 maintained a draw of around 330, give or take a few dozen (fluctuating between around 300 and 430). However, the Pure Edition was between 800 and 1400, typically settling at around 1100 to 1300. Thinking that there may be some kind of software issue after all, I rebooted into "Safe Mode" and tried using the device that way, but saw no perceptible change (at least as best as I could tell without being able to run Ampere).
With that in mind, I'd like to pivot more to a discussion of what kind of power draw everybody is seeing in Ampere under light usage and video watching, regardless of what Rom or kernel you're running. Is anyone else seeing high power draw while doing relatively little?
200-22 was the ticket!
Well, this will be the second time that a weird, untraceable issue wound up being solved by flashing back to stock and upgrading. I installed that 200-22 factory image, took the new update, (October security level) and everything appears to be fine and dandy once again. Runtimes are much better and Ampere reports much lower power consumption (idling below 250ma and light use in the mid-to-low hundreds; which is much less than half of what I was seeing before).
Idle power draw (prior to restoring most of my apps) was holding steady at around 1.4% per hour, averaged over about 24 hours of non-use. And that's without any of the Amplify or Greenify tweaks.
I'll have to withhold final judgement until all of my data and software is restored, but things are looking really good so far. That "Sprint" factory image appears to have saved this Verizon-network-user's bacon.
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Maybe that wasn't it after all. Battery life started tanking again within a couple of weeks after the operation, so there must be some software I'm installing that isn't playing nice somehow (even though Wakelock Detector shows no noteworthy periods of unrest). It's odd because I have almost the exact same software load on my backup phone (the Nexus 6) and can leave that thing in the backpack for days on end without it losing much charge at all, while the Pure Edition is managing to run down at a rate of about 4 percent per hour, screen-off and unused.
While the device is awake and running, Ampere shows an idle power draw of between 450 and 1000 mah, which, while (probably) not as bad as before, is still consistently higher than it should be.
The silver lining to this whole thing is that I now have so little time in the day to actually use the phone that it usually doesn't matter. If I get the chance again, I might switch back to the Nexus 6 temporarily again to troubleshoot the Pure Edition more carefully. There has to be something that I'm missing.
same issue here after updating to NPHS25.200-15-3, i have to charge the phone almost twice as before. looking at apps usage shows nothing unusual. i'm checking battery performance using accubattery
Power use figure?
hagi_mostafa said:
same issue here after updating to NPHS25.200-15-3, i have to charge the phone almost twice as before. looking at apps usage shows nothing unusual. i'm checking battery performance using accubattery
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What's your idle power draw as measured by Ampere?
Bill720 said:
What's your idle power draw as measured by Ampere?
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Check these two shots
Going to have to find the answer the hard way
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Check these two shots
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Are you running stock rooted? At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if I got a bum replacement battery, since the whole thing just shut down spontaneously on me one day at around 20%. I'll try switching back to the Nexus 6 and start over with the Pure Edition again, this time installing things one-at-a-time (or in waves while making liberal use of backup images) to see what (if anything) is not sitting right with it. The most perplexing thing of all is that I have the Pure Edition configured almost identically to the Nexus 6 in terms of tweaks and software, and yet the Nexus lasts 2-4 times longer.
Even right now, I'm sitting at 4% with about 32 minutes of screen-on time and 36 minutes of background audio playback over about 12 hours. In contrast, the Nexus 6 is at 74% with just over 1 hour of screen-on time and 52 minutes of screen-off audio playback (and yes, I do have an active Sim card installed in it too, albeit on a different carrier). In essence, the Nexus managed to do twice as much with one quarter the power draw, so I know for a fact that something is wrong, either in hardware or in software, and my experiments over the course of the coming weeks will confirm, one way or another, which is the case.
This whole experience really has soured my whole opinion of this phone. I still believe that it's one of the best smartphones ever made, but there's no doubt that it has a serious problem, and I'm disappointed by both possible outcomes. If it ends up being software, then it'll be plain that Lenovo screwed up in a big way to make it so that I could duplicate the same weird bug twice in a row with a fairly common/minimal setup that should not cause any problems. On the other hand, if it ends up being hardware, then that'll be the end of the line for this phone, plain and simple, seeing as few of the available battery replacements don't completely suck. Honestly, I'd have replaced this phone sooner, given how much time it's cost me, but there's just nothing affordable I could go to that wouldn't be a compromise. I guess the dream of "decent smartphone" just wasn't meant to be for any longer than that first year .
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Are you running stock rooted? At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if I got a bum replacement battery, since the whole thing just shut down spontaneously on me one day at around 20%. I'll try switching back to the Nexus 6 and start over with the Pure Edition again, this time installing things one-at-a-time (or in waves while making liberal use of backup images) to see what (if anything) is not sitting right with it. The most perplexing thing of all is that I have the Pure Edition configured almost identically to the Nexus 6 in terms of tweaks and software, and yet the Nexus lasts 2-4 times longer.
Even right now, I'm sitting at 4% with about 32 minutes of screen-on time and 36 minutes of background audio playback over about 12 hours. In contrast, the Nexus 6 is at 74% with just over 1 hour of screen-on time and 52 minutes of screen-off audio playback (and yes, I do have an active Sim card installed in it too, albeit on a different carrier). In essence, the Nexus managed to do twice as much with one quarter the power draw, so I know for a fact that something is wrong, either in hardware or in software, and my experiments over the course of the coming weeks will confirm, one way or another, which is the case.
This whole experience really has soured my whole opinion of this phone. I still believe that it's one of the best smartphones ever made, but there's no doubt that it has a serious problem, and I'm disappointed by both possible outcomes. If it ends up being software, then it'll be plain that Lenovo screwed up in a big way to make it so that I could duplicate the same weird bug twice in a row with a fairly common/minimal setup that should not cause any problems. On the other hand, if it ends up being hardware, then that'll be the end of the line for this phone, plain and simple, seeing as few of the available battery replacements don't completely suck. Honestly, I'd have replaced this phone sooner, given how much time it's cost me, but there's just nothing affordable I could go to that wouldn't be a compromise. I guess the dream of "decent smartphone" just wasn't meant to be for any longer than that first year .
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after several cycles accubattery shows that a full battery just works no more than 3 hours. in some cases it even lasted for just one hour or less!
so of course there's something wrong here.
the issue has appeared exactly since i upgraded from 6.0.1 to version 7, both official xt1572 asia ds. just flashing boot and system files. no root custom recov or else.
so i really doubt that this could be of a hardware failure. also i'm using the same collection of apps as in rom 6.0.1 so this is not an app issue.
as accubattery shows battery health and power usage, battery health is 80% at 2580mah and power usage is high, something between 500 up to 700 mah.
the only possible cause resides in rom or flashing. i'm gonna try flashing us rom and if the problem continued, i'm gonna flashing latin ds with boot system and modems.
Gratitude for the information
hagi_mostafa said:
the issue has appeared exactly since i upgraded from 6.0.1 to version 7, both official xt1572 asia ds. just flashing boot and system files. no root custom recov or else.
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Good to know. Mine is the North American XT1575 variant, but I'm in the same boat otherwise. The trouble seemed to start almost immediately after installing the new 7.0-based update, so there's a good chance that it's related to this in some way. Mine is rooted, (stock rom/kernel, however) but it's good to know that somebody running stock is seeing the same thing.
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so i really doubt that this could be of a hardware failure. also i'm using the same collection of apps as in rom 6.0.1 so this is not an app issue.
as accubattery shows battery health and power usage, battery health is 80% at 2580mah and power usage is high, something between 500 up to 700 mah.
the only possible cause resides in rom or flashing. i'm gonna try flashing us rom and if the problem continued, i'm gonna flashing latin ds with boot system and modems.
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I don't think that it has anything to do with the software region. I'm on the standard North American build with the same problem, so the issue (if in software) must be a broader one. I'm going to try to switch back to the Nexus 6 today so that I can start the long process of starting over on the Pure Edition and getting to the bottom of just what causes things to crash & burn.